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Lyr Req: Songs about Boadicea/Boudicca

GUEST 18 Nov 05 - 05:40 AM
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Subject: Lyr Req: Songs about Boadicea/Boudicca
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Nov 05 - 05:40 AM

Does anyone have any songs or rhymes mentioning Boadicea/Boudica/Boudica?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs about Boadicea/Boudicca
From: Paul Burke
Date: 18 Nov 05 - 05:46 AM

The only one that comes to mind immediately is Aunt Florrie's song from "Sir Henry at Rawlinson End":

    How nice to be in England
    Now that England's here,
    I stand upright in my wheelbarrow,
    And pretend I'm Boadicea.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs about Boadicea/Boudicca
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Nov 05 - 09:43 AM

Thanks Paul.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs about Boadicea/Boudicca
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Nov 05 - 11:02 AM

Click here for a picture of Boadicea. Yes, that does look like a horse-drawn wheelbarrow that she's riding.
Is she the Goddess of Gardeners, or something?
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs about Boadicea/Boudicca
From: Paul Burke
Date: 18 Nov 05 - 11:52 AM

Apparently John Kirkpatrik was involved in a play about Boadicea:

"         SONG FOR A DARK QUEEN
by Rosemary Sutcliff. The Vic. Adapted and directed by Nigel Bryant.
Composed music, songs and dances for this dramatisation of the story of Boadicea. Extensive recorded score of fanfares with battle scenes, love songs and dances, and high ceremonial. Created a whole world of early British ritual, with Pagan carols and stylised fights. The dramatisation, by Nigel Bryant was published as a play, with all the music and songs, by Heinemann Books."

John Kirkpatrick's website


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs about Boadicea/Boudicca
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Nov 05 - 03:52 PM

The reason I posted this question was because my son and daughter in law actually restored this statue (repatination etcetera) and my daughter in law is doing a Master Degree. She is trying to find out how the story of Boadicea was put across to the children at the time when the statue was erected (1901/2/).


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs about Boadicea/Boudicca
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 18 Nov 05 - 04:53 PM

See previous thread 63796 for other songs about Boadicia: Boadicia


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs about Boadicea/Boudicca
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 18 Nov 05 - 06:48 PM

Keep right on to the end of the woad?
Quack!
GtD.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs about Boadicea/Boudicca
From: Peace
Date: 18 Nov 05 - 08:08 PM

Enya
Steve McDonald


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs about Boadicea/Boudicca
From: LadyJean
Date: 19 Nov 05 - 01:31 AM

Christie Golden wrote a wonderful song about her. You can find it in the second volume of Songs of the Isenferi published through Moongate Designs. Christie's probably got a web page, since she's a writer. So, you could get in touch with her there too, to get the words.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs about Boadicea/Boudicca
From: paddymac
Date: 19 Nov 05 - 09:24 AM

I read the bit about the lady's "brutal streak." Revisionist BS, say I.
I don't doubt that she did the things attributed to her in the article, but disagree as to the adjective "brutal." But, then, it did seem somewhat proto-Cromwellian. I would be more inclined to call it (at least in her case)"righteous vengenance" or "militarily efficient," or some such. Viewed from a perspective more in tune with her time, she would have been an incompetent leader to do less than she did. Although she lived and died in what is today widely know as England, I suspect that she might take umbrage at being called British. She was a Celt, though I recognize that the word "Celt," in whatever form she knew it, might not have carried the same meaning commonly ascribed to it today.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs about Boadicea/Boudicca
From: Snuffy
Date: 20 Nov 05 - 02:58 PM

She most certainly was British - the British Isles take their name from the ancient Britons, the Celtic inhabitants of these Isles before the English arrived. The only claim the English have to Britishness is that they invaded the British Isles (and obliterated many traces of the Britons).


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs about Boadicea/Boudicca
From: BuckMulligan
Date: 20 Nov 05 - 04:54 PM

Snuffy's right on - Boudicca would probably not have considered herslf a "Celt" since that term didn't really exist until relatively recently, as applicable to Britons. She was queen of the Iceni, I believe, one of the many tribes of Britons inhabiting the isles when the Romans came. I doubt she would have been upset at being called a Briton, and would have been unlikely to know what you're talking about if you called her a Celt.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs about Boadicea/Boudicca
From: Peace
Date: 20 Nov 05 - 05:00 PM

The Romans killed her husband and raped her daughters. That may have had something to do with her getting a little 'brutal'. Tacitus wrote about her and the revolt. His remarks are worth reading, IMO.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs about Boadicea/Boudicca
From: Peace
Date: 20 Nov 05 - 09:10 PM

Link here.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs about Boadicea/Boudicca
From: Paul Burke
Date: 21 Nov 05 - 03:38 AM

No, they didn't kill her husband. Prasutagus died naturally, but the Romans used that as an excuse to annexe the territory.Boudicca was flogged, her daughters raped. She got annoyed, and destroyed as much of the Roman occupation as she could get her hands on, which was quite a bit.

She probably hadn't given the question of nationality or ethnicity a single thought.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs about Boadicea/Boudicca
From: Seiri Omaar
Date: 21 Nov 05 - 11:22 AM

Paul is correct, Boudica's husband died before the Romans flogged Boudica and violated her daughters. "Boudica" is the correct spelling, as any of the variants that are commonly used could not have been used in the "Celtic" language which she spoke.
Joe Offer: She is an attested historical figure, not a deity. In fact, she never evolved into one. Not long after her time she was basically forgotten until the works of Tacitus and Dio Cassius were rediscovered during the Renaissance.


And this is proof that I actually learned something in school. Go me.

Cheers, Seiri.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs about Boadicea/Boudicca
From: Mrrzy
Date: 31 Oct 14 - 02:53 PM

Back to the songs? Got any? And dig it on learning something in school!

Anything about Down With The Romans from Britain in general?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Songs about Boadicea/Boudicca
From: Mrrzy
Date: 31 Oct 14 - 02:54 PM

Something something the Iceni queen? That fragment just popped into my head...


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