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Subject: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Georgiansilver Date: 24 Nov 05 - 03:00 PM I have been studying and collecting all manner of antiques and collectables for many years now and have a lot of knowledge of those things plus car boots, auctions, antique fairs etc. I have a collection of small silver, particularly calling card cases and vinaigrettes from the Victorian era....also (surprise-surprise) a collection of Georgian silver and some small gold items and jewellery. I just wondered if any other catters are into collecting, buying, selling etc. Best wishes, Mike. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Beer Date: 24 Nov 05 - 05:06 PM Yep. I buy as manny boxes of hard cover books at auctions for 1 o2 dollars. Sometimes I will go a little higher but that depends on what has attracted me. I then get an estimate on a web site I use for old books. I keep all pertaining to Canadian history plus others I want to read. Then I place on e-bay any book that values over $100.00 I do O.K. and sometimes not. First book I sold on E-Bay I got $167.00 American. Paid a dollar for the box. Worst deal I sold an Agatha Christie for $50.00. It was worth around 3 to 4 thousand. Felt bad but then I again only paid a dollar bor the box. Those books I have remaining I have one garage sale per year and what doesn't sell there I give to the local church garage sale. This way I don't throw any away. I have presently over 500 that will be picked up this weekend and sent to some organization that is looking for books. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Bat Goddess Date: 24 Nov 05 - 08:06 PM I never beat myself up if I sell for too cheap -- as long as I've made a decent return and was happy, it's fine. I've got a good gut feeling about what I buy for resale and sort of know instinctively (and by watching the prices in shops, in various publications, etc.) what to charge. What I pay depends entirely on where I buy -- yardsale the least, flea market a bit more, antique shop the most. Oh, and pawnshops. There's a few of those left. I've got a good eye. Ask Curmudgeon -- he's learned over the years to trust me. Linn (I deal mostly in books and ephemera.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: GUEST,clueless Date: 24 Nov 05 - 08:15 PM OK I know this is a long shot without photos but I am interested in two bits I inherited. One is a silver fairy/woman pendant on a chain. She looks art nouveau or deco? She has sapphires sunken set around her wings. She is beautiful. The other piece is a six inch high frosted glass pot in a rectangular shape. Engraved in the glass is a fairy like figure definitely female. I have no idea what it's use was. For pens maybe? It has no visible marks from whence it came. They were left to me by an antique dealer who specialised in clocks really. But had a weakness for beautiful 'bits.' |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Sorcha Date: 24 Nov 05 - 08:16 PM I don't deal at all....I buy what strikes my fancy. Often quite strange stuff. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Beer Date: 24 Nov 05 - 09:21 PM Also work for an auctioneer. I'm what you call a ringer. At estate auctions I help the auctioneer catch bids. When something comes up that I want to bid on I hold my number up so the audience knows I'm also bidding. Its a lot of fun and sometimes great you get deals. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: mack/misophist Date: 24 Nov 05 - 11:42 PM Oriental rugs, I'ts not knowledge that I have but experience; and the ability to see what a rug may look like when I've cleaned it. Most ever made = about 5000 USD. Most ever lost = who cares if I love the rug. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Metchosin Date: 25 Nov 05 - 03:48 AM I've had to kick my addiction. I started collecting black and white antique Victorian lithographs and etchings, preferably signed. Now I can't afford to matte and frame all of them and even if I could, I do not have enough wall space on which to hang them. I also started worrying about what was going on in my brain that led me to a run on art without colour, although I do tend to find landscapes in black and white particularly powerful, so maybe that's it. I've still got a stairwell wall reserved for something my family jokingly refers to as my wall of death, because it is where I intend to put all my terrier prints, which seem to involve a lot of dead rabbits and rats. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: The Walrus Date: 25 Nov 05 - 05:22 AM British (and the occasional American) Military and Naval Training Manuals and military documentation (passes, pay books, ration books etc.) 1890 to 1929 - I collect rather than deal (Oh Lord, does that mean I'm a closet bureacrat?). W |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Little Robyn Date: 25 Nov 05 - 05:18 PM I don't sell - just collect - dolls, glass paperweights, carnival glass and books. Thousands of books. Old books - the earliest is a 1601 Breeches bible (damaged and repaired so not worth much) but my favourite is Strutts Sports and Pastimes of the People of England, 1830, with pictures handpainted by a team of young boys, sitting in a garret. Wonderful pictures of tumblers, gleemen, minstrels and morris dancers. I also collect folk books including C Sharp, Baring Gould, MacColl, various Seegers etc. through to Oscar Brand, back copies of English Dance and song and anything in between. I even have an 1833 set of Scott's poetical works in 12 vols (but vol 3 is missing. That's the one with Minstrelsy of the Scottish Border part2) (so if anyone finds a faded purple cloth bound sad-looking book........) Actually, I come from a family of squirrels - I inherited family papers and letters dating back to 1839. Pity my poor husband. Robyn |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Georgiansilver Date: 25 Nov 05 - 06:53 PM What make of paperweight do you collect Robyn or do you just buy any you fancy? Best wishes, Mike. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Suffet Date: 25 Nov 05 - 09:05 PM Greetings: I am a serious collector, exhibitor, student, and judge of postal history. That's the branch of philately (stamp collecting and related fields) that deals with postal rates, routes, markings, and services. The postal history collector, if he or she collects stamps at all, wants them used on their original covers (envelopes), post cards, parcel wrappers, etc., with all the postal markings intact. Some postal history collectors, however, specialize in stampless folded letters from the period before postage stamps came into use (1840 in the UK, 1847 in the USA, 1851 in Canada, etc.). One of my several postal history collections, for example, deals with the first 100 years of United States domestic third class mail, from 1863 to 1963, with a very brief look at the foreunners from 1845 to 1863. Third class mail, now called standard mail, was mostly circulars and other miscellaneous printed matter. In other words it was junk mail. While many businesses, law offices, government agencies, institutions, and private individuals saved their incoming correspondence, including the covers, hardly anyone saved third class mail, especially in the 19th century. It is thus relatively easy to find first class mail (letters and other personal correspondence), but somewhat harded to find third class mail. Are there any other postal history collectors out there? --- Steve |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Little Robyn Date: 25 Nov 05 - 10:36 PM Hi Mike, I have a couple of Strathern and a Swedish Kosta but most of the rest are just el-cheapo pretty ones. I can't afford the expensive ones these days. Robyn |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Bert Date: 26 Nov 05 - 12:42 AM We're not counting musical instruments of course. Collect all sorts of junk. Cameras come second (first is above). Then anything that catches my fancy. I bought a lot at an auction for $10 that contained two birdsmouth soda syphons that I've seen for around $100 each on Ebay. Just the other day I picked up a Pewter serving dish for $7.50 and a copper arts and crafts tray for $4.50. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: ejsant Date: 26 Nov 05 - 08:33 AM Greetings all, I have been in the antiques business for just over thirty five years now. Before I met my wife I would say that I collected my mistakes but that now has changed. We collect decorated glass from the Victorian era through the nineteen fifties. I also have a small website from which I sell glass and other antiques and collectibles. It is http://www.ejsantiques.com. "Guest, clueless", if you would like to email me a photo of the glass pot I will pass along anything I know, or can reasonably make up, after all I am an Antiques dealer and auctioneer :-), about it. Beer, in my opinion it is the ring staff that make or break an auction. My order of importance regarding the various functions of an auction is; first the clerk, second the ring staff (we used to say ringman), and lastly the auctioneer. Thanks for the thread and again for the heads up Mike. Peace, Ed |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Georgiansilver Date: 26 Nov 05 - 10:37 AM No problem...have just had a look through your stock and find the black glass with silver overlay interesting as I have a dish somewhere..put away in a box...which is sterling silver over black glass and still has its original label in the dish itself. Must turn it out and discover what I have. You have some great glass. Best wishes, Mike. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Guy Wolff Date: 26 Nov 05 - 11:23 AM Well I have a few passions. We have all talked about our banjos and guitars and concertinas and .... In my work I have had to make collections of great tools.. While making hutchs for my pottery shop I started gathering molding planes and Stanley multi planes like the #45 and #55 . These tools do make your furnature making look of an older type and using them is just a gas. I like different flat planes for their different uses as well . Jack & smooth planes and spoke shaves are a favorite.. With years of pottery making inspired by historical pots means I have collected a batch of Earthenware and Stoneware crockery from both the Northeast of America and Wales and England. I very much like "English Slip-ware " such as Panchions Salt Kits and the like. I am a huge fan of Issac Botton who was the potter at Soil Hill pottery nr Halyfax Yorkshire. Also the early pots from Wetheriggs Pottery nr. Penryth and Ewenny Pottery nr Bridgend ( Both shops I worked at or next to in Ewenny's case ) . New England's Pottery: I am always after Hearvey Brook's pots who lived near me . Frederich Carpenter of Boston who was a potter in the late 18th early 19th century in Boston .The same for Dannelle Goodale of Hartfoed from the same era . I like the Salt Glazed decorating from Fort Edwards pottery from the 1860"s to the 1880"s . A friend of mine and I are collection ornamental flowerpots for a show we are doing called " A place To Take Root ' that is traveling the USA for the last two years and is going on to 2007 . We are hoping the show will come to Briton as well . It is showing the eary use of flowerpots for travel and hot house work and how ornament worked its way into horticultural wares.. By the mid 19th century these pots had gotten very onramentel .. Anyway its been a great thing gathering old pots together for this show!! Its at Smith College at the moment after 5 months at the US Botanic garden . Washington . For some reason I have a weakness for 3 speed older English bikes.. and I also collect flags from places that have been part of my life.. I still fly a Red Pendragon at the pottery. Anyone with a Welch background stops in .. great fun . All wonderful fun . great thread . sorry to be so wordy . Yours Guy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: katlaughing Date: 27 Nov 05 - 04:13 AM No need to apologise, Guy; it's fascinating and interesting, as are others' postings in this great thread! I've inherited some good bits: my grandmother's C&H Seld Bavarian china; some old family monogrammed silver, plus family, early American, hand-made pewter spoons, a few pieces of jewellery. Various ceramic and china small decorative plates, plus a big old carnival glass pitcher and tumblers, circa 1880's. i.e. not the stuff from a real carnival!:-) Also books, of course! Have one I'd like to sell, but am having a hard time finding anyone who can tell if it's a first edition, first run of Mark Twain's, in which there was a *mistake* of a water mark on his lapel in the first photo he allowed in one of his books, and so they ran a second printing of it. I've got a good number of Will James, Uncle Wigglys, and Billy Goats Gruff(?), along with other old children's books. There are four crates of books under our bed which are earmarked for sale. I just have to find them time to list them all. Have a ton of old MAD magazines, but they're pretty beat up; my kids were raised on them.:-) Also, have every issue of a short-lived magazine called "Rocky Mountain Magazine. It came out in 1979 or 1980 and I was a charter member/subscriber. Have a few bits of advertising collectibles, too. Anyone remember "Trouble" cologne for men with the slogan, "I've got Trouble all day?" Came out about the same time as "Hai Karate!" I also have some collectible prints, ala Maxfield Parrish, by an up and coming favourite, but I'll have to go look at them to remember the name. And, I have a thing for chairs, rocking chairs, esp. and old floorlamps, from around the early 1900's.Any OLD wooden chairs, tables, etc. Have a wonderful old 12 drawer section of a library card catalogue, just perfect for cassete tapes. Then there's other odd bits and pieces; what strikes my fancy, though I have really stopped, mostly. Like Mets, I don't have enough wall space for what I do have, there is no more room for furniture, and no place to display the breakables. I have two trunks full of family archives, including ancient photographs, some of which are making their way into my dad's oral history book which I hope to finish this coming year. Next project is getting my grandmother's memoirs put into my computer and into chapters, with photos and a CD of her reading to us in the 1950's. Stones, though I've stopped that pretty much, too. I have a tray of favs. which include a sphere of rainbow obsidian, lava with peridot, a nice chunk of amethyst with great points, tiger eye, hawks eye, lapis lazuli, crystal points, malachite, blue crystal, and others which look rough and plain but have an incredible shape and *feel* to them. I don't deal any of them, but I do buy gemstones for jewellery making. Also have a few teapots, one of which plays "Tea for Two" when one pours from it, and a few old and special vases. Little boxes, for trinkets, one old dyed bamboo one in which my grandmother kept tea. Oh, and I also have my granddad's slate from when he was a tyke in school. I have a few things, besides books, which I am going to sell, just have to figure what they are worth, first. And a bunch of other stuff! Linn/Bat Goddess, I used to find such *deals* in New England. Out here the pawnshops, aplenty, and yard sales are all as high as the antique stores!! And, they are outrageous! kat |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Georgiansilver Date: 27 Nov 05 - 04:30 AM Hi Katlaughing....All manner of items turn up on Ebay and if put in the right section will sometimes sell for amazing prices...but Ebay is good for a reference point as regards current values..I tend to look at sites all over the world not just UK and sell where my item will get most cash. Just put Ebay.com in address bar and the home page will come up...there is a blank bar with SEARCH next to it...type in a brief description....(ie school slate.....musical teapot) and see what comes up. You maybe know this already, if so apologies. Best wishes, Mike. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: GUEST,clueless Date: 27 Nov 05 - 07:32 AM Thankyou ejsant. I will get a photo up here but it may take a while as I am not digital. Will try and figure it out. Any information would be great as I love both items dearly. I had a look at your site and the glass is spectacular. Especially the opaque jade, beautiful. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: wysiwyg Date: 27 Nov 05 - 07:49 AM Guy, what is a "turning planer"? I saw a drawing of one-- square of wood with a blade set at an angle and a round hole or depression in the center-- is it for turning legs? I have a dresser from my grandmother (she's gone) that I'd like to know more about. Our church hosts an annual antique show with 15 dealers' booths, but do you think I can ever get organized enough to take them a picture and/or a drawer to show them? Not in the last 10 years; "maybe next year." Mostly, I'd like to know what the heck is the wood it's made from-- I've even had antiquers in my house, but did I remember to ask one of THEM? No... ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Deckman Date: 27 Nov 05 - 08:36 AM TREEN that's my passion ... as well as very old carpenter tools. Being a carpenter (The Deckman) I stumble across these items often. But my real passion, besides "Bride Judy," is old wooden ware: hand carved or turned bowls, trenchers, spoons, kitchen knick knats, etc. I do have a spectaculiar collection of bowls. And as "Guy Wolff" mentioned above, I have quite an assortment of old carpenters planes, including a "Stanley 55", complete with ALL the knives. I sometimes set it on the mantel when we have hoots. CHEERS, Bob(deckman)Nelson |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: jimmyt Date: 27 Nov 05 - 10:38 AM Jayne collects English teapots, has about 80 of them on display. I have several small collections, one of Pewter Tankyards with inscriptions of the pub or hotel, I collect Laguiole pocket knives and corkscrews. I will think of a few other small items that i seem to get in a collecting mode about. I don't get passionate about one thing per se, but I always admire people who manage to acquire fine collections. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Janice in NJ Date: 27 Nov 05 - 01:57 PM I collect United States Capped Bust of Liberty Half Dollars, minted from 1807 to 1839. Since no silver dollars were struck for general circulation during that period, these were the largest U.S. silver coins available for commerce. The U.S. mint supplied only a small fraction of the circulating coinage until the late 1840s, so the gap was filled mostly by silver coins from Mexico, ranging in value of 6.25 cents (el medio or half réal) to one dollar (el peso de ocho, piece of eight, or eight réales). I cannot afford the uncirculated (mint state) coins, even the ones that haven't been slabbed and graded, so I collect only "raw" circulated coins, usually in grades very fine or higher, if the price is right. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Metchosin Date: 27 Nov 05 - 02:11 PM Deckman, thenyou would probably appreciate my husband's full kit of old Stanley molding planes. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Deckman Date: 27 Nov 05 - 02:18 PM Yes, I probably would really appreciate seeing it. One interesting aspect of modern carpentry, here in America, is that the practical use, or need, for planes is about obsolete now. Styles of millwork have changed and simplified largely. And unless you restore older homes, you have little occasion to use them. And there are now so many new tool designs: routers, shapers, power planes, etc. Bob |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Metchosin Date: 27 Nov 05 - 02:35 PM My husband still claims he is planning to use them on some furniture stuff because they do a better job of slicing through the pores than can be had with a router's grinding action. He claims the profiles are crisper and more authentic. Whether he will ever find the time to do so is another matter. I'm still waiting for a dulcimer he started for me about 15 years ago. LOL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Metchosin Date: 27 Nov 05 - 02:37 PM Apparently he has some old wood block cabinet maker's planes as well. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Georgiansilver Date: 27 Nov 05 - 04:20 PM So glad to have started this thread as it is quite revealing. There are a wealth of collectables out there and people with talent to collect. Keep going please. Best wishes, Mike. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Metchosin Date: 27 Nov 05 - 04:29 PM oh heck, I still haven't even touched on the musical instruments, vinyl, nor my old 78RPM Jimmy Shands. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Deckman Date: 27 Nov 05 - 04:32 PM Does collecting of wives count? Bob |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Georgiansilver Date: 27 Nov 05 - 05:24 PM How many you got then mate. I have had a few but got rid of each one before the next! LOL. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Bill D Date: 27 Nov 05 - 07:25 PM I have several collections that my mother assembled...Swankyswigs, Powder jars (some very nice and unusual ones, plus some common ones)...and some Roseville pottery (not 'real' fancy, expensive ones, but some quite nice). I really ought to finally dispose of these things...I guess I'd better learn to use EBay soon! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Beer Date: 27 Nov 05 - 08:53 PM I have a collection of canes, trivets, butter molds and a great collection of welcoming cards. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Carly Date: 27 Nov 05 - 10:14 PM I come by it honestly. Both my parents are collectors. Besides the book collections, the instruments and the record/tapes/CDs.... I have a passion for Russian lacquer boxes embellished with folk tale illustrations; I was lucky enough to acquire many of these during the early glasnos years, as they have become increasingly "collectible," meaning expensive, recently. I cannot resist handthrown pottery, but in my defence it must be said that we eat off of, drink from, and I cook out of, my pottery, even if I do have five times as many mugs and bowls as any household needs. I did not set out to do so, but I have acquired over the years a vast number of cookie cutters of varying sizes and shapes, many more than I use. Ditto wooden bowls. Ditto baskets. I am a spinner and weaver, so I do not know if I should count the two closets full of fiber at various stages from fleece to cloth, or my looms (four floor looms and several small looms of various sorts) or wheels, or other tools, but I confess to having much more than I need. As a child, one of my earliest passions was the Oz books. Some loves never die, and so as an adult I own all but one of the Oz books(I could tell you I got them for my son, but who am I kidding?)I also have been given or found an odd array of Ozzish things: bubble gum cards, jewllery, nesting dolls, an Emerald City snow globe, cardboard ornaments, an Oz game playing board, and my very own pair of Ruby (I know, they were silver in the book) Slippers made for me out of white rubber garden clogs,sequins and rubber cement by Maggie Pierce's grandchildren, who share my love of OZ. Sell?!! You've got to be joking. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Deckman Date: 27 Nov 05 - 10:25 PM Carly ... "Bride Judy" has a first edition of "The Wizard ..." Fascinating! CHEERS, Bob |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: katlaughing Date: 28 Nov 05 - 12:23 AM I've got an early copy of the Patchwork Girl of Oz. It was my cousin's and was used oermuch...it's missing the front cover. Did you ever read the story of a man who went into a used clothing story in CA, bought a nice overcoat, reached into the pcoket when wearing it and found a cleaner's ticket, I think it was, which indicated the coat had actually belonged to Baum. I think it was in Reader's Digest in the 60's or 70's. Neat story. Mike/Georgiansilver, thanks very much. I have used eBay a few times. I've even earned a star, can't remember what colour, though!**bg** I need to be more diligent about getting stuff listed on there. I've scads of storage bins to go through, a winter's project, with lots of stuff to sell, I am sure.:-) I have a friend who supports himself quite well through acting gigs and eBay. Anyone here know much about early raised relief prints? I've got one I haven't been able to find much about of an early football cheerleader. Really, early, she's got a Gibson Girl hairdo and classic hourgalss figure. It has the following printed in the lower right corner: " Copyright 1907 by Woodward & Tiernan Printing CO St. Louis, U.S.A." The only thing I've found on the company is they were known for their maps. Other good places for gauging what retail prices may be for books include abebooks.com and libris.com, as well as eBay, as Mike said. Wonderful thread!! Thanks! kat |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Beer Date: 28 Nov 05 - 09:59 AM I go in spurts. I'll list on e-bay for a while then won't do anything for a spell. I find that the expense of shipping has been a negative factor in selling. Check out what I'm presently selling. my handle is: noah_black Beer |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Beer Date: 28 Nov 05 - 10:01 AM Ooops!! Hope I was permitted to give my handle out. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Georgiansilver Date: 28 Nov 05 - 10:07 AM Try mine too...nothing on there at the moment but you'll have to guess my handle/nickname! LOL Best wishes, Mike. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: katlaughing Date: 28 Nov 05 - 02:51 PM It's fine to include your "Handle," Beer. Thanks for doing so, you, too, Mike. I've got one other thing which I DO want to sell. WOuld like to target the Japanese market for jeans as I hear they are a hot ticket there. Guess ebay is probably the best place. I've a pair of women's, tiny size, side-zippered Western jeans, Wranglers from the 1940/50s with Western-style pearly-looking snaps on the side pockets. The logo even has a cowgirl on it, if I remember rightly. Have to find them to see for sure! Anyway, they are from my days of haunting secondhand shops for vintage clothing. kat |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Metchosin Date: 28 Nov 05 - 04:56 PM You mean there might be a market for my tiny orange and pink and yellow striped flares with peace symbols on the buttons? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Carly Date: 28 Nov 05 - 05:06 PM Bride Judy, take good care of your first edition Wizard of Oz. It is worth a small fortune! It is also a wonderful book. Kat, The Patchwork Girl is a longtime favorite character of mine. It is a shame that the early Oz books were printed on poor quality paper, and of course, many saw heavy use (the ones I first read were handed down from a cousin, and from our family went on to other cousins, and the few that survived are in tatters,} so I'm not surprised that your copy is coverless. It's a sorry truth that books{and some other things!) can be loved to pieces. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Beer Date: 28 Nov 05 - 09:51 PM $51.00 for the Book Merlin's Furlong and $22.0 for Diana Gabaldon's Outlander. And I paid about $2.00 for a whole box at an auction. The persons who won the auction also did very well. So were both happy. Think I'll go out and get a case of BEER |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Georgiansilver Date: 29 Nov 05 - 01:09 PM I really get a buzz from finding something at a car boot sale or antique fair which I pay a small price for and I know it is worth 20, 50, 70, 100 or even 1000 or more times what I paid for it. I have built a good knowledge of antiques and often recognise things that other collector/buyers don't....Knowledge is great in anything. I am still learning all the time and will never be an expert I'm sure. Seeing the so called experts on antique programmes making big mistakes is re-assuring in a way. We can't know all there is to know about antiques and collectables but keep learning...learning...learning. Best wishes, Mike. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: GUEST,ivor Date: 29 Nov 05 - 06:53 PM I collect performances conducted by the great Jascha Horenstein (still missing some Bach, Schubert, Ravel, Stravinsky, Simpson (if anyone hears of a recording of him doing Mahler 2 or 5,I'd be grateful). (I'm going to join this interesting community.) I also collect Dictionaries of Quotations, and I'm compiling mu own according to an 18th century self-indexing system. I hope to get the obscurer half of the early 20th century edition of the works of Nietzsche, and complete my 3rd/4th editions of Grove's Dictionary of Musicians. Also a tiny collection on audio tape of works by Carl Friedrich Abel (a friend of mine is a great-great-great-great grand niece of his. I'm also tracking down some titles I've wanted quite a while. Sometimes I try via an online secondhand book dealers communal site. One tip that's worked for me is, when you go to a dealer, car boot, auction or whatever, is to say in your head "Go on, surprise me !", or have some particular item firmly in mind in the same situations. The number of times I've found what I was looking for , or something I was l.f., is too large not to think one can talk to the Universe, and get a response. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Georgiansilver Date: 02 Dec 05 - 06:34 AM Anyone know anything about spitoons/cuspidors? I have a very old one and would like info...can send photos. Best wishes, Mike. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Bill D Date: 02 Dec 05 - 02:47 PM igor...do you want original volumes of Nietzsche? Those might be hard, but there are edited reprints...especially stuff by Walter Kaufmann...that are quite obtainable. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: katlaughing Date: 02 Dec 05 - 03:07 PM BillD, you been reading Frankenstein or something? ivor/igor?**bg** |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: GUEST,ivor Date: 03 Dec 05 - 03:46 AM BillD, Thanks for your response. Around 1900 there was a collected Nietzsche in 20 vols. edited by Oscar Levy. I've got the easier to find half, and I'm looking to get the rest tho' I'm not in a hurry. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Suffet Date: 04 Dec 05 - 01:12 AM Greetings: Is there anyone else out there on Mudcat who collects postal history? Please give me a holler. My collection of United States Third Class Mail: The First 100 Years, 1863-1963 was just accepted as a competitive exhibit at the Washington 2006 World Philatelic Exhibition which will take place next spring. Fewer than half of the exhibits that applied for the open competition were accepted, so this is a very big deal. As they say in baseball, I am honored just to be in the Big Show. --- Steve |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Georgiansilver Date: 04 Dec 05 - 09:03 AM I have a collection of postage stamps dating back to the turn of the century...some on original interesting postcards. The most interesting to me are the ones my grandfather sent to my grandmother during 1st World War...from Canada. Best wishes, Mike. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Suffet Date: 04 Dec 05 - 10:14 AM Greetings: For a long time the generally accepted way of collecting postage stamps was "one of each." Collectors preferred unused stamps, mostly in mint condition, meaning just as fresh as when they came from the post office, with all the gum on the reverse side intact and free from marks left by stamp hinges. If the stamps were used, they were soaked off of their envelopes and then carefully dried between two pieces of cardboard so they wouldn't curl. There were always a few collectors, however, that went beyond this very basic approach. Some collected stamps in multiples, pairs, strips, blocks, even entire panes ("sheets"). Other collectors looked for the various pre-production material such as original artwork by the stamps' designers, trial designs (called "essays"), and proof impressions taken from the original dies or from the printing plates. Another group of collectors kept their stamps on the original covers (envelopes), post cards, parcel wrappers, or mailing tags that saw actual postal duty. In doing so, they kept the address, return address, and postal markings intact. From this group of collectors grew the hobby of collecting postal history. Some of these collectors also started looking for stamps postmarked on the first day of issue. If that date were unknown, then they looked for the earliest known usage, or EKU. The world's first postage stamp, for example, the Penny Black, was placed on sale throughout the United Kingdom on May 1, 1840. It was not valid for postage, however, until May 6. Examples used on covers postmarked May 6, 1840, are highly prized, and are worth many hundreds of times what the stamp itself is worth. A few covers are known with the Penny Black used improperly between May 2 and May 5. These "pre-first days" (an oxymoronic term!) are also highly prized. By the 1930s, the hobby of collecting first day covers or FDCs had become widespread, so most first day covers from then to the present are of only minimal to moderate value. Many FDCs from the 1930s, for example, can be purchased for $1 or less today. When it comes to post cards, there are literally two sides to the story. The picture side (obverse) is of primary interest to the deltiologist or post card collector, while the stamp side (reverse) is of primary interest to the philatelist or stamp and postal history collector. The post cards that Mike's grandparents exchanged during World War I may bear censor markings, as countries at war often censor their outgoing and incoming foreign mail during wartime. In any event, they likely bear a 2¢ stamp, or else two 1¢ stamps. The Canadian international post card rate at the time was 2¢. I've rambled on for too long. Sorry. --- Steve |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Georgiansilver Date: 04 Dec 05 - 12:32 PM Enjoyed your rambling Steve....knowledge is always acceptable to me. Thanks and Best wishes, Mike. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Once Famous Date: 04 Dec 05 - 12:40 PM We have many active collections. I have a very large electric train collection that I have been working on for 20 years of vintage electric trains from the '30s to the '70s. I also collect Coca-Cola genuine memorabilia from the '30s-'50s. No reporproductions. I have a passion for vintage post cards from a specific resort town in Michigan, and have a small but stable collection of vintage guitars. My wife collects fine English bone china made by Shelley from the '30s-''60s. One son collects Star Wars stuff and the other, the older one has a ton of vintage military stuff from WWII. Collecting is a wonderful thing. The "hunt" is everything. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Nigel Parsons Date: 04 Dec 05 - 03:24 PM Georgiansilver: I have a collection of postage stamps dating back to the turn of the century... You mean a whole five year's worth?! The expression "turn of the century" can now be soooo misleading. CHEERS Nigel |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Georgiansilver Date: 04 Dec 05 - 04:46 PM Well thank you for that Nigel but as I had put a reference to the First World War, I assumed that people would understand. Will try a little harder to make it easier for you to understand next time. Best wishes, Mike. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc) From: Suffet Date: 04 Dec 05 - 05:16 PM Greetings: In philately people still commonly say "turn of the century" when they mean the transition period from the 19th to the 20th centuries. --- Steve |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Georgiansilver Date: 05 Dec 05 - 08:57 AM Refresh...any more collectors/dealers? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: JohnInKansas Date: 22 Nov 07 - 09:32 AM Some here may be familiar with Kovels, a husband/wife team(?) of appraisers and writers on antiques and collections. They might be a resource for some with "things" that "might be worth something." They do sometimes reply to requests for "identification" and occasionally with rough valuations, particularly if it's for something that might be of interest in their regular syndicated columns. Sorry, but I don't know the details of how best to ask them, but their site may give help. A recent newsletter that LiK gets from them included an item of interest to me, and possibly to others. Via email, in their newletter Kovels Komments: A dealer told us the other day that the modern art market may blow up any day. As the old song said, "It's too hot not to cool down." And history has shown this. Realist paintings from the late 19th century were almost unwanted in the 1950s but are once again in favor. Art and antiques, like decorating trends and clothing fashions, change at about 25-year intervals. Prices reflect demand. That said, we still are confused by the painting prices at the top of the art market. Sotheby's stock dropped 28% the day after its November Impressionists art sale because of the number of paintings that did not sell. Christie's did okay and set several auction records, the highest for a Matisse painting at $33.6 million. Are buyers moving on to another "look" or are the auction houses promising sellers fixed prices that are too high? (Yes--if you have a masterpiece worth millions, the auction house will guarantee the price you will get even if the picture doesn't sell.) They want to have "stars" at each auction to attract an audience, but perhaps they are setting unrealistic prices. A possibly related comment from the Art Renewal (ARC) website: 6 Paintings by William Bouguereau dominated Sotheby's 19th Century Auction on October 23rd. Amazingly, of 276 paintings sold, the 6 Bouguereaus represented fully 35% of the $25,000,000 sale. The pace at which prices for William Bouguereau's paintings continue to rise affirms his position as the most important of the 19th Century Academic artists. His prices have begun to approach sales of Impressionists and Modern Artworks. Even more amazing, also from ARC: Three Great Paintings by (American) Masters All Sold at Sotheby's Mid-Season Event for American Paintings, October 10, 2007 All Three Painting Sold Above the High Estimates Emerald and Rose by Allan Banks: went for $34,000 (estimate $14,000 - $18,000) Father's Day by Steve Gjertson sold for $34,000 (estimate $10,000 - $15,000) Dawn of Hope by Dan Gerhartz sold for $45,000 (estimate $20,000 - $30,000 [prices include buyers premium] What's amazing? The three are all LIVING ARTISTS working in classic "realist" styles. One expert on American painting at the event said: "This was nothing short of a Watershed event in art history. Not only is this likely to lead the way to a growing dynamic market for these Three artists, but may prove to have ushered in a whole new marketing category in American Painting sales. Academic and Impressionist Living Master Realist artists. I'm not sure exactly what we'll call it yet, and it may prove to be best to continue combining them with American paintings from the last 200 years as we did today." John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: JohnInKansas Date: 22 Nov 07 - 09:36 AM Additional comment from Kovels Komments that may be of interest: In our world of average collectors, business is a bit slower but there are still records set regularly. Since September our list of record prices for antiques and collectibles (no paintings) has added at least 19 records, from a Chippendale tea table to six mechanical banks. Bank collectors who couldn't afford the mechanicals that set records might want the new Japanese Savings Bomb bank. If you don't put coins in regularly, the bank "explodes" and scatters the money on the floor. You must pick up the money and "reflect on your laziness," says the manufacturer, TOMY Ltd. Sort of in the category of the alarm clock that jumps off the table and hides under the bed (or in the closet) when you hit the "snooze" button. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 22 Nov 07 - 12:55 PM Sotheby's and Christie's are outside my realm, which is that of a bottom-feeder. A few of my buys have appreciated, mostly Chinese-Japanese porcelain, but most were bought because they appealed and fit my budget. My heirs, if they sell, will probably get back a bit more than I spent, which is good enough. I bought Canadian paintings by artists whose work I liked and I could afford; a couple or three have gone up markedly, most have kept pace with inflation, and a few no longer elicit anyone's interest and are useful only to cover holes in the wall. A collection of Navajo silver and turquoise pretty well follows the demand; no expectation of profit, since the very early work and the work of the trendy and expensive artists is absent. I like the handiwork and that is reason enough for me to collect. Any collectors of 17th-18th c. Dutch blue and white tiles out there? Canadian history on silk cigarette cards? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: mouldy Date: 23 Nov 07 - 05:33 AM My mother was an avid collector of 19th century Staffordshire figures, as well as most other (small) things that took her fancy. She started to trade in the late 1960s in antique centres, and graduated to shops. Unfortunately she gave up after about 10 years as she couldn't make a living, because the trade was in a slump, and only other dealers were buying (and they require trade price). She then bought specific items on commission for dealer friends at auction, and also bought and sold for herself. Well I have to restrain myself when I go to antique shops or the like. I have had to try and narrow my Staffs buying to musicians, although I now possess 3 Mother Goose figures! I also have a couple of specialist dealers on the hunt for one figure I specifically want. I recently came across some illustrations by a lady called Jean Young, who illustrated a 1947 edition of the "Hound of Heaven". I have 3 originals (not from that, sadly) and a lithograph. I've also got a nice earlyish Cruikshank engraving (1797), courtesy of mum. And a trunk full of other prints (a couple of Baxters and an Alken in there) that I may offload at some point. My tastes are eclectic, and my late husband used to despair (he had no interest). My latest purchase is a Victorian bidet. I needed a small side table, and it does the job admirably! Best surprise at auction was a couple of years ago when, after a bit of a pruning of my stuff, I sold a pack (one missing) of early 19th century playing cards: hand painted - with fortune-telling pictures, and single ended court cards - by Napoleonic prisoners of war. We'd had them for 40 years (one of mum's acquisitions) and they made £960! Another of her little finds, which she gave me in 1968, and which had been put out in 1964 for a jumble sale she was running, made £4800 at Sotheby's in 1989. They were late 17th/early 18th century ladies' shoes. Just paid off all our debts at the time! Biggest extravagance of late was buying 3 Thompson "Mouseman" pieces: a lamp, a candlestick and a tray. These are my investment pieces. I'm going to keep half an eye out for older pieces, I think. There's only one snag, as mum used to say: "Champagne taste, beer income"! Andrea |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: JP2 Date: 23 Nov 07 - 08:10 AM My wife and I own a narrowboat with a traditional Boatman's cabin the sides of which were traditionally decorated with lace edged plates,also called ribbon plates or hanging up plates. We started buying plates about 20 years ago and used to buy anything and everything provided it was cheap enough but now only collect plates made by Schumann,a Bavarian/German company. Frequently the plates were brought back from a seaside holiday and very often are of a standard design with the legend "A Present from Blackpool" or some other resort printed on them. Other common themes are "Gainsborough" style figures and "Worcester" style fruit. Pre WW1 plates are stamped Bavaria/Germany on the back but post 1918 are stamped Foreign,presumably due to anti German feeling. We've slowed down a bit now as the cabin's full and so are the "Delft" racks at home. JP1147 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Sorcha Date: 23 Nov 07 - 08:36 AM Fiesta Ware, but only in a few of the Original colours. It's gone so far out of sight price wise that I can't begin to afford the pieces I want. I don't really 'collect' anything, but pick up stuff that stike my fancy. Old milk/cream cans, ice cream freezers, ancient pressure canners, cast iron (to use!), lonely unplayable music instruments, just gobbeldy gook stuff. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Bobert Date: 23 Nov 07 - 08:49 AM Hi, my name is Bobert and I am a collectoholic... However, I have been in recovery for 15 years, 4 months and 3 days and just take it "one day at a time"... But with that said, yes, during my practicing collectoholic days I amassed quite a collection of eclectic stuff most of which now is boxed up and banished to the ferrowing (don't ask) barn... Oh, yeah, G-silver, I have cuspidors... I think I have 3 but maybe four... I have one here in the house that I use for nothin' other than keeping my collection of old keys (maybe 500 of them) that I don't have a clue as to what they once unlocked??? I have another box or two with old toasters??? Like what is that all about??? I mean, why would nayone need old toasters... Okay, I'll plug in the "TRUE CONFESSION" sign here and tell you folk just how bad it got for me during my practicing collectoholic days: Back in the 70's and early 80's there were several urban renewal projects going on in Richmond and 1000's of old late 1800's homes were taken in eminent domain & boarded up for future demolishment (is that a word???)... Well, I couldn't wait to get home from my social work job, put on my grubbies, head into these areas in my pickup truck and tools... Yes, night after night I, as well as other collectoholics, would break into these homes, would riffle thru the stuf that had been left behind, pry our archietuctural things of interest, etc... This is where my toaster collection came from... People left some very intersting stuff behind... Old vaccum cleaners, old women's hats, dolies, drawn-work table clothes, silverware, lamps and shades, large furniture, books by the thousands... Yep, you name it and folks left it and there I was, a reasonablely well adjusted social worker with 2 degrees on my hands and knees in a boarded up old house rumaging thru postcards, old ash trays, fountain pens, clothes, etc... Well, that was porbably the height of my disease and, yes, it continues into the 90's until I just had to swaer it off before it consumed me... Now I am stuck with literally hundreds of boxes of collected stuff out in a 35X100 foot barn and feel responsible for all this stuff... I can't quite bring myself to auction it all off but I know that *that* day will come and I will have come a full circle... But as for now, "Lord, just get me thru today, if You will..." That is my story... Those who have been in my house can verify every bit of it... Sniff... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Georgiansilver Date: 23 Nov 07 - 09:04 AM After separation from my ex-spouse.....I moved into a one bedroomed flat which had to become home to all sorts of junk......I do have good stuff but that is held in comparative safety and security elsewhere. I have amassed a huge knowledge of antiques and collectables but spend little time on them these days. Thanks for resurrecting the thread John in Kansas. Nice to see it again. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Bee Date: 23 Nov 07 - 09:50 AM Fascinating to see what other people collect. I don't collect, exactly, but I do acquire 'neat old things' cheaply when I can and they strike my fancy. I particularly like old linens, and have a few nice pieces, as well as some antique clothing. My husband's Dad worked at a local shipyard, and so husband has a collection of tools circa '30s to '50s, including several examples of brass cannister blowtorches, and hand made tools for very specific jobs. I like old dishes, but have had bad luck keeping then intact - my inherited 200 year old platter was sat upon by a friend. In the realm of paintings - I have a tiny painting, signed and dated 1941, by a locally well-known woman painter, E E Smith, who was instrumental in getting art education started in the province. It's a lovely little Group of Seven influenced shore scene, might be worth a hundred dollars. Which is not a great amount, but I found it for three dollars at a flea market. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: JohnInKansas Date: 23 Nov 07 - 11:27 AM As to formal "collections," in a prior lifetime an ex-wife and her parents were determined to have "collections" (frogs, horses and bunny themes) and continually badgered me to "collect something." Based on it being a college "mascot" and being nonexistent1 among collectibles in Kansas, I finally told them I'd collect "beavers." My recollection is that it took around 7 or 8 years for one of them to find one to present as a gift at some holiday or another. I was quite content with the one specimen on my class ring. 1 It is well documented that my great grandmother Sarah trapped beavers and other pelt animals quite nearby for cash to improve here homestead - a requirement to obtain the title; but for quite a while they (beavers and most of the other critters she trapped) were nearly extinct in Kansas. There are quite a few beavers in recent years at some managed sites; but they're not exactly something people "go to Kansas to see." G'g'ma also drove a mule team as a "commercial hauler" on occasion, but collecting "mule stuff" would have been too easy. Although I'll confess to rarely buying a particularly fine beaver during business travel - maybe 8 or 10 in 30 years time, I was quite successful in keeping my "collection" at less than 20 pieces until I made the mistake of accepting a transfer to Seattle. Once friends there found out it was an easy gift for the ungiftable, the collection "bloomed" (and is now formally called "the bloomin' beavers") with around 80+ pieces, most of which are tiny, but a few approaching life-sized - most notably a set of large bookends that friends "up in the no'west" commissioned for me from a local chainsaw artist as a Christmas gift. LiK had a similar collection experience. During her 30 years in the "great northwest" she collected "Frankoma pottery." From a fairly small factory in Oklahoma, the pieces are mostly "utilitarian" althoug some are quite attractive. The orignal factory burned out some years ago, and the new factory used a different clay, so the old pieces are quite distinctive and easy to identify. They were also rare enough in the Seattle area to make for manageable and selective "collecting," especially when specialized for the old style Frankoma. Prices - even there - were mostly fairly reasonable. Of course, when she moved back to Kansas with me, we found "Frankoma everywhere" since the new factory is only a half-day drive down the road, so her collection reached "Frankoma glut stage" before (sh)we realized she couldn't buy it all. She has a few "specimen pieces" from other makers, and would love to accumulate "Hull China" but prices on the good ones are out of reason and reach. She does have one or two - Hull and other - pieces that she's gotten at bargain prices because of misidentifying by the dealers, but none are - IMO - really "prime collectibles." LiK also has a minor accumulation of "gargoyles" - including one 200 LB+ cast iron specimen in her herb garden, but they're more for decoration than collection. We do both of course have a few "heirloom" pieces. From my mother I have an interesting, but probably not particularly valuable, "Royal Staffordshire: Jenny Lind" plate (a somewhat ambiguous provenence) and an original signed and dated photograph (1907) of a "courting couple by fireside" that's lovely; but I doubt either would make us wealthy. My inventory of our "books" shows well over 2,000 entries (a little over 200 music). Those are about 2/3 mine, and she hasn't entered most of her last 10 years' acquisitions; but that's an accumulation rather than a collection. She does have perhaps a dozen "signed by author hardback" novels, but little of real note or exceptional value. They were bought to read, and to meet the authors, rather than as an investment. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 23 Nov 07 - 06:57 PM JiK I stopped being a beaver collecter.... Gotta run... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Bill D Date: 23 Nov 07 - 07:58 PM I guess I collect beer bottles/cans....at least, I SAVE one of each type I empty. In 30 years, it has grown quite a bit! I do NOT search for & buy the ones I have not drunk, so maybe I'm not a true collector....but I do have nearly 1000 now....including one from the New Albion brewery about 1977, which began the Renaissance of American micro-breweries. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 23 Nov 07 - 10:46 PM I have a nice little collection of cowboy boots. Ostrich were my favorite, found used but good condition. And an old Olathe pair in elephant hide. I have a 'game' leg so don't wear them anymore, too hard to get on and off. Here in Alberta there was a glassworks in Lloydminster that made animal figures. We picked up quite a few. The Medalta Pottery near Lethbridge made all sorts of stuff, from table ware to 'art,' so we picked some of that up too. In the basement, packed up except for a few prize ones, is a collection of glass 'coal ile' lamps, specialized on Canadian made. Watches? Yep, models certified for railroad use in the railroading days. Beginning to sound like a real packrat's horde. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: bankley Date: 24 Nov 07 - 03:28 PM it's amazing what you can accumulate if you stay 'put' long enough and have the room... I can relate to Bobert's barn. I helped empty one (100x60) a couple of years ago....plus 2 houses... took awhile... Beer was there checking out the books. One of his buddies showed up and carted away a few loads of interesting things for resale at his store. That just scratched the surface. Stamps, guns, coins, cars, tractors, furniture, you name it..... a lot of it has a home somewhere else now, from Thailand to Ormstown and then some.. the rest went to the scrapyard or dumpster. Did sell a '62 Buick Electra to a DC doctor... gave us enough for 2 months in Europe... The Antiques Roadshow has influenced a lot of people but I learned early on that an object is worth what you can get for it, and everyone is looking for a bargain.... I'm still partial to musical instruments esp. guitars, but they're meant to be played and I can only manage one at a time. Still it's nice to have a variety of colours when doing a recording project. So now, it's simplify... keep the load light and practical.... if I can't carry it with me in a crunch, how important is it ? One great thing.... songs don't weigh much, particularly the ones committed to memory....mine is still okay........ memory that is..... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: autolycus Date: 24 Nov 07 - 04:14 PM I'm a half-hearted collector of recordings of Gustav Mahler's music. Only today, thanks to starting the same 'how do you buy?' thread that's up above the line here, on a Mahlerites site, I've made an exchanging contact with a Mahlerite in Arizona. (Isn't this aspect of the technology just stunning?) Ditto recordings by Jascha Horenstein, Dictionaries of Quotations (and top-notch quotes), and books on popular fallacies (not urban myths. Instead, stuff like, King John didn't sign Magna Carta.) Oh, and jokes. hopefully not antique ones. Ivor |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: bankley Date: 24 Nov 07 - 06:06 PM ps.... Erik Frandsen's last cd is really fine. It's called "Antiques: New and Used " |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Georgiansilver Date: 25 Nov 07 - 03:30 PM Recently bought an antique whistle (D) on Ebay for next to nothing..... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Llanfair Date: 25 Nov 07 - 03:31 PM I have a stall, Bron's Crafts & Curios, every Saturday and Monday on Welshpool market, and it's always overfull with interesting bits, and stuff I've rescued and renovated. I love auctions, and now I've got a van, I can widen my scope. The crafts are things like driftwood mobiles and mirror frames, decoupaged trays, tables and boxes, mostly acquired from the local recycling centre. The pictures I use are often pre- raphaelite or faerie prints, and I age them to look as though they've always been there. Old commodes make wonderful sewing boxes, as they are so well made. A good scrub with bleach is the first step...... Collectables come and go. At present I've some 1950 scrapbooks of the royal tour and wedding, some reproduction staffs fairings and flatbacks...fun and cheap!! lots of brass and copperware, a spode bowl, lots of treen, and loads of decoupage boxes. I also rescue and renovate old sewing machines, which sell well, peg looms, made locally, funky hats, hand warmers, oh, and a full set of "cries of london" Davenport plates that my mum bought for a fortune new, thinking they would be worth a lot, which I can't shift. They don't even sell on e-bay, so care must be taken with "investments" . I always have different stuff on the stall, and have built a steady clientele over the years. Doesn't make a lot of money, though!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: autolycus Date: 25 Nov 07 - 04:31 PM btw, I once spent some of a happy few weeks noting things my dearest Mum would come out with. Don't know why I didn't do it more. She once said, "You know, they don't make antiques like they used to." Ivor |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: danensis Date: 26 Nov 07 - 08:27 AM I overheard a lady in an antiques centre, looking at a wooden posser. "Look at that £25! We used to have two of those in our wash-house." Stall holder: "and what did you do with them" Woman "Well, we chucked 'em away when we got a washing machine" Stall holder "so did everyone else - that's why that one is £25". John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: katlaughing Date: 26 Nov 07 - 10:15 AM Fun to re-read this thread. I don't think I mentioned it before: one place to get appraisals is (recommended to me by an antique dealer who told me there were no appraisers in western Colorado to recommend:) What's It Worth to You?. For ten dollars they will provide you with a certified appraisal. It depends on how much info you provide, but I have found them to be quite educational and thorough. The more pix and descriptions etc. you provide, the better the appraisal, of course. They do have a classifieds which they hope you might use but they are NOT pushy and I do not receive any spam or anything from them. kat |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: skipy Date: 26 Nov 07 - 11:03 AM I've just put Eagle annuals no 1 & 2 (1951 & 2) on Ebay, found them in a skip, fingers crossed. Skipy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Georgiansilver Date: 26 Nov 07 - 11:29 AM I would by no means call myself an expert but will happily appraise any UK antiques (not furniture) for free(pm me)......if I can't appraise your particular item I will say so. Best wishes, Mike. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: GUEST,Bluesman Date: 26 Aug 11 - 07:10 PM I collect medals, I can't understand why America introduced the SVA. Like most things, medals are personal property and should be allowed to bought, sold, traded, bartered...this trafficking in decorations, foreign included, allow succeeding generations to acquire, research, and most of all, appreciate the sacrifice and valiant deeds and also serve as a reminder of the bravery and courage of those who earned those awards. We have no such law in Britain. The Stolen Valor Act (SVA) makes it a criminal offence to buy, sell, trade, exchange all decorations and medals; such as the Distinguished Service Cross/Navy Cross/Air Force Cross, Silver Star, and Purple Heart. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Valor_Act_of_2005 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: olddude Date: 26 Aug 11 - 07:48 PM dunno either. I have a WWII set of B17 sterling silver bomber pilot wings right here in front of me ... Wanna buy em? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: olddude Date: 26 Aug 11 - 07:58 PM My understanding of the law is you can own them, display them but you cannot at anytime wear them. Only the one it was awarded to can. I know all the antique stores here in town still sell them and I find a ton of WWII medals at every flea market. There maybe something in the law about after a certain date or such .. Now the medal of honor .. no at no time can that be sold. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: maeve Date: 26 Aug 11 - 08:19 PM From Bluesman's Wiki link: "The Stolen Valor Act of 2005, signed into law by President George W. Bush on December 20, 2006,[1] is a U.S. law that broadens the provisions of previous U.S. law addressing the unauthorized wear, manufacture, or sale of any military decorations and medals. It makes it a federal misdemeanor offense to falsely represent oneself as having received any U.S. military decoration or medal. If convicted, defendants may be imprisoned for up to six months, unless the decoration lied about is the Medal of Honor, in which case imprisonment could be up to one year..." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 26 Aug 11 - 08:41 PM There will be a Supreme Court ruling before long. The law takes it the step farther, making it illegal to buy, sell or trade in the medals. Read the summary. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: gnu Date: 26 Aug 11 - 09:59 PM Q.... and so it should be. To do otherwise is just not right. It's, at best, disrespectful. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 27 Aug 11 - 12:14 PM I'm so glad the politicians were spending time and money on such a crucial issue. (not) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Beer Date: 27 Aug 11 - 07:19 PM Refresh. ad. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: kendall Date: 27 Aug 11 - 10:10 PM I have a set of Russian post cards all with pictures of Lenin on them. I got them in a swap aboard a Russian factory ship back in the early 70s. Thanks to a dear friend, I now have an ancient Victrola that weighs about 200 pounds! and it is huge. Jacqui will have a cow when she sees that. She should be glad I like old things. Yes, I've been drinking. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Beer Date: 27 Aug 11 - 10:18 PM Hay!.... The older things are the more their worth. Right!! ad. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 28 Aug 11 - 12:23 AM In Australia we occasionally have news items about someone selling granddad's medals - the fat really hits the fire when they include a Victoria Cross the pre-eminent award for acts of bravery in wartime and Australia's highest military honour. It is awarded to persons who, in the presence of the enemy, display the most conspicuous gallantry; a daring or pre-eminent act of valour or self-sacrifice; or extreme devotion to duty. We are lucky enough to have a philanthropist who buys those he can at the auctions & presents them to the Australian War Memorial. (Kerry Stokes is said to have paid more than $3 million for four VCs, all of which he has donated for display at the Australian War Memorial. The memorial boasts 64 of the 98 Australian VCs awarded.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: ollaimh Date: 29 Aug 11 - 12:28 AM on victoria crosses, there were three awarded to men who all cme from the same street in winnepeg. they changed the name of the street to valor road. i don't unserstand collecting except for musical instruments. but then everyone can sit in a chair, listen to radio or play a sport, but few can play musical instruments. i am fasinated by what people collect and how much things go for--that seem almost useless to me. but then my wife used to quote rita rudner about my home before we got together. " men are like bears with furniture--and ollaimh is a bear with very little furniture" in fact i used to spend all my money on music in some way and wait for people to give me everything else--which they do eventually. i can go without furniture for years, except maybe a matress and chair, and with only two or three changes of clothes. with those i wait till friends give me things. some used to visit my apartments in the past and see a palce to deposit the detritius of decades of living in the same house--which i am fine with. i understand collecting tools and usable items, but nowadays people collect everything from toys to advertising signs. its amazing. so common mudcatters get back to collecting musical instruments where you all belong. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Georgiansilver Date: 23 Jun 12 - 01:35 PM For all our British catters.. I will be appearing on three programmes of "Dickensons Real Deal" at some point before Christmas. I will re-post to let you know when! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 23 Jun 12 - 02:26 PM I wish the programs were available in Canada. I have been going through my collection (extremely eclectic) and giving my offspring the better items (the rest can go to the auctioneer). Apropos your alias (monicker, handle, pen name, tag, nom de plume, etc.), I gave my pair of Georgian silver candlesticks to my older daughter. I saw them in a local auction some 50 years ago and couldn't resist. In the mid-19th C., St Louis was a center of wealth on the edge of the frontier. I have a coin silver pitcher made by a silversmith who worked there about 1850. There were several silversmiths there at the time. The city is primarily known for beer, but all crafts flourished there 150 years ago. Along with the impulse and junque buys, I did get some very nice items. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Georgiansilver Date: 23 Jun 12 - 05:13 PM Yes Q, we have many antique and collectable programmes in the UK... Perhaps some of them find their way across to you.... You could of course try to google 'ITV player' and 'BBC player on the internet and possibly watch some of our antique programmes that way. Best wishes, Mike. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Bobert Date: 23 Jun 12 - 08:50 PM Cool... Send us a link when it happens... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Georgiansilver Date: 24 Jun 12 - 03:27 AM Will so do! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Leadfingers Date: 24 Jun 12 - 04:16 AM 100 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: BrendanB Date: 24 Jun 12 - 09:44 AM I have a pretty good collection of Doulton Lambeth 'new art' pottery. Many years ago I had a stall under the Westway ( the cheap end of Portobello Road) in the Saturday market which is where I started collecting Doulton. I was a rubbish dealer and nearly always spent more than I made. Often I would buy a piece to sell and then decide that I couldn't part with it. In the end my partner booted me off the stall, quite rightly, I do not have the right attitude to be a business person, but I still love the vases etc. that I bought then. No Barlows or Tinwiths but a pair by Frank Pope and lots of other beautiful stuff. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Georgiansilver Date: 24 Jun 12 - 01:12 PM Just such a pity that Doulton in general has gone down in price.. as has most pottery and porcelain over the last fifteen years.... I particularly love the scraffito work of Hannah Barlow.. especially the vases with donkeys inscribed on them.. they still command a high price. A well I can wish I suppose |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 24 Jun 12 - 05:44 PM On NPR, once a week there is a show on which art and antiques are evaluated, a spin-off from the UK Antiques Roadshow that they used to carry. I can get BBC Radio 1 on the net. I see that the long-running Antiques Roadshow is Friday, 00.55. I will check around and see what else is available. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc) From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 24 Jun 12 - 05:56 PM May be the wrong place, but I have some books on antiques and collectables for sale. Large 2 vol. set on pottery and porcelain, makers and marks. Vol. on blue and white pottery and porcelain from UK. Not in front of me, but if there is any interest I will give full details. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc) From: Georgiansilver Date: 12 Jul 12 - 05:51 AM I attended the 'Dickensons Real Deal' auction a while ago but my items didn't sell.... largely because they were inadequately described in the auction catalogue. It was the auctioneer himself who valued them on the day but he couldn't sell them because he or his staff made mistakes in the catalogue..... I guess it will be televised.. will let folk know when all three programmes are on..... and hopefully give a link. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc) From: BrendanB Date: 12 Jul 12 - 07:09 AM Georgiansilver, regarding your comment about the fall in the prices paid for pottery and porcelain I would have agreed without reservation until recently when I attended a local auction in Northumberland. There were two small Doulton pieces there of the kind that I particularly like and I thought that I would get them at a reasonable price. In the end they were bought by a dealer who seemed to think that what seemed like high prices to me we're a bargain. Maybe I am just out of touch - on the other hand the lower prices work in my favour generally because I buy to keep not to re-sell and hopefully this incident was an abberation. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc) From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 12 Jul 12 - 02:12 PM Prices for a group such as pottery & porcelain do seem to be down, but particular items may have a demand outside that category. I have also left offers above market with a dealer-picker for particular items (e. g., my daughter wanted a RD flame cat; I offered twice what I thought might be the market price). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc) From: GUEST Date: 12 Jul 12 - 03:38 PM Hello I was wandering if you were the same person talking a few years back about a song/poem called the last great charge? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc) From: Stilly River Sage Date: 12 Jul 12 - 06:06 PM Who are you asking, Guest? Have you searched the DT to see if it turns up? This is one result if you select "forum" and search on "last great charge." SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc) From: Charmion Date: 13 Jul 12 - 08:50 AM I adore Doulton, and I recently caught myself in the act of collecting Professionals plates -- despite the great oath I swore not to be a pack rat like my parents. I just love the colours and the Gilray-esque style of the 1950s designs -- the Mayor, the Squire, the Parson, the Doctor, the Admiral, the Hunting Man and even the Bookworm. (The pre-war Jester and Falconer designs do nothing for me; too romantic). eBay is, of course, crack cocaine for china freaks. I consider it a very bad sign that I now have an eBay application on my iPad ... and use it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc) From: Georgiansilver Date: 13 Jul 12 - 09:36 AM For anyone with a good strong wide knowledge of antiques.. Ebay is a good hunting ground given that you have time to peruse the pages. My latest acquisition was a copper jardiniere with profusely inlaid dark blue and turquoise enamels... need to research it but it arrived looking like brass with black lacquer due to years of accumulated dirt and lack of cleaning. Obviously from the East but not sure where and a work of art! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc) From: Beer Date: 14 Jul 12 - 07:59 AM Anyone know a good site where you can find artist and their work? This site is where I go to get an approximate value on old books. Adrien http://www.addall.com/Used.NoCookie/ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc) From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 14 Jul 12 - 12:47 PM Art prices (auction) are sold by several services. Serious collectors, dealers, etc., subscribe to one of these services, but the cost is a deterrent to the small collector or person interested in a limited range of material. An alternative I use are art auction sales by Christie's and a few other sources which report sales on line. Example: Christie's, sale of 19th C. paintings, New York, 23 April 2012. On 24 April, prints were offered in the New York sale. www.christies.com; www.christies.com/results/index.aspx?month=4; see google for more. Alternatively, enter artist's name in google and search for auctions, etc. I have been able to arrive at a reasonable value for a number of British 'minor' artists' works that I have. The information is scattered, but enough may be on line to help. Remember, type of work is important; example, a small sketch by Gerald Cassidy may sell for under $10,000 but one of his Native American paintings can sell for close to $100,000 or more. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc) From: Beer Date: 14 Jul 12 - 01:43 PM Thanks Q, much appreciated. ad. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc) From: GUEST Date: 14 Jul 12 - 06:30 PM Sorry, I left a message a couple days ago and was addressing it to Q. It was about a conversation he had years back about a poem/song titled either the great Last Charge or Battle of Fredericksburg. I recently purchased a civil war lot at an auction and pretty sure came across original copy. Trying to find out as much info on it as possible. Thanks for any help. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc) From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 14 Jul 12 - 09:27 PM "The Last Great Charge," I thought, was trad, a song from Atlantic Canada. See http:///www.mun.ca/folklore/leach/songs/NFLD1/13A-07.htm Guest, several songs, about Fredericksburg, etc., have a similar title (see Trad Ballad Index). Please post the information from the copy you found in your Civil War lot- Publisher, composer, date, and other details- and I will try to check. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc) From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 15 Jul 12 - 12:37 PM Guest, 14 Jul 2012- Harper's Weekly, Feb. 7, 1863, found by Jim Dixon, "At Fredericksburg," LCM. Noted in Trad Ballad Index under "Last Fierce Charge." This is currently taken as the origin. (Meaning of LCM not given). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc) From: GUEST Date: 15 Jul 12 - 09:46 PM The copy I got is titled battle of fredericksburg. It has no date or signature but it is just like the one in Harpers Weekley. I have a friend that deals in civil war items and says the paper and everything is correct with the time. My copy has where they marked words out and wrote above them with what matches harpers weekley.I will try to post pics tomorrow or next day. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc) From: Bobert Date: 15 Jul 12 - 10:27 PM There is a Museum in Fredrickbsurg that would be a good source of your print, GUEST... It is all about the the battle and may have the same print on display... B! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc) From: Georgiansilver Date: 27 Feb 13 - 01:38 PM Any British Catters who are interested can find a page called "Valuations, Antiques and Collectables UK" on Facebook.... it is a valuation site, not for buying or selling and valuations are free |
