BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc)

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc)
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 01:38 PM

Any British Catters who are interested can find a page called "Valuations, Antiques and Collectables UK" on Facebook.... it is a valuation site, not for buying or selling and valuations are free

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc)
From: Bobert
Date: 15 Jul 12 - 10:27 PM

There is a Museum in Fredrickbsurg that would be a good source of your print, GUEST... It is all about the the battle and may have the same print on display...

B!

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc)
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Jul 12 - 09:46 PM

The copy I got is titled battle of fredericksburg. It has no date or signature but it is just like the one in Harpers Weekley. I have a friend that deals in civil war items and says the paper and everything is correct with the time. My copy has where they marked words out and wrote above them with what matches harpers weekley.I will try to post pics tomorrow or next day.

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc)
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 15 Jul 12 - 12:37 PM

Guest, 14 Jul 2012-
Harper's Weekly, Feb. 7, 1863, found by Jim Dixon, "At Fredericksburg," LCM.
Noted in Trad Ballad Index under "Last Fierce Charge." This is currently taken as the origin.
(Meaning of LCM not given).

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc)
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 14 Jul 12 - 09:27 PM

"The Last Great Charge," I thought, was trad, a song from Atlantic Canada.
See http:///www.mun.ca/folklore/leach/songs/NFLD1/13A-07.htm

Guest, several songs, about Fredericksburg, etc., have a similar title (see Trad Ballad Index).
Please post the information from the copy you found in your Civil War lot- Publisher, composer, date, and other details- and I will try to check.

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc)
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Jul 12 - 06:30 PM

Sorry, I left a message a couple days ago and was addressing it to Q. It was about a conversation he had years back about a poem/song titled either the great Last Charge or Battle of Fredericksburg. I recently purchased a civil war lot at an auction and pretty sure came across original copy. Trying to find out as much info on it as possible.
Thanks for any help.

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc)
From: Beer
Date: 14 Jul 12 - 01:43 PM

Thanks Q, much appreciated.
ad.

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc)
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 14 Jul 12 - 12:47 PM

Art prices (auction) are sold by several services. Serious collectors, dealers, etc., subscribe to one of these services, but the cost is a deterrent to the small collector or person interested in a limited range of material.

An alternative I use are art auction sales by Christie's and a few other sources which report sales on line. Example: Christie's, sale of 19th C. paintings, New York, 23 April 2012.
On 24 April, prints were offered in the New York sale.
www.christies.com; www.christies.com/results/index.aspx?month=4; see google for more.

Alternatively, enter artist's name in google and search for auctions, etc. I have been able to arrive at a reasonable value for a number of British 'minor' artists' works that I have. The information is scattered, but enough may be on line to help.
Remember, type of work is important; example, a small sketch by Gerald Cassidy may sell for under $10,000 but one of his Native American paintings can sell for close to $100,000 or more.

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc)
From: Beer
Date: 14 Jul 12 - 07:59 AM

Anyone know a good site where you can find artist and their work? This site is where I go to get an approximate value on old books.
Adrien

http://www.addall.com/Used.NoCookie/

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc)
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 13 Jul 12 - 09:36 AM

For anyone with a good strong wide knowledge of antiques.. Ebay is a good hunting ground given that you have time to peruse the pages. My latest acquisition was a copper jardiniere with profusely inlaid dark blue and turquoise enamels... need to research it but it arrived looking like brass with black lacquer due to years of accumulated dirt and lack of cleaning. Obviously from the East but not sure where and a work of art!

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc)
From: Charmion
Date: 13 Jul 12 - 08:50 AM

I adore Doulton, and I recently caught myself in the act of collecting Professionals plates -- despite the great oath I swore not to be a pack rat like my parents. I just love the colours and the Gilray-esque style of the 1950s designs -- the Mayor, the Squire, the Parson, the Doctor, the Admiral, the Hunting Man and even the Bookworm. (The pre-war Jester and Falconer designs do nothing for me; too romantic).

eBay is, of course, crack cocaine for china freaks. I consider it a very bad sign that I now have an eBay application on my iPad ... and use it.

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Jul 12 - 06:06 PM

Who are you asking, Guest? Have you searched the DT to see if it turns up?

This is one result if you select "forum" and search on "last great charge."

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc)
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Jul 12 - 03:38 PM

Hello
I was wandering if you were the same person talking a few years back about a song/poem called the last great charge?

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc)
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 12 Jul 12 - 02:12 PM

Prices for a group such as pottery & porcelain do seem to be down, but particular items may have a demand outside that category. I have also left offers above market with a dealer-picker for particular items (e. g., my daughter wanted a RD flame cat; I offered twice what I thought might be the market price).

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc)
From: BrendanB
Date: 12 Jul 12 - 07:09 AM

Georgiansilver, regarding your comment about the fall in the prices paid for pottery and porcelain I would have agreed without reservation until recently when I attended a local auction in Northumberland. There were two small Doulton pieces there of the kind that I particularly like and I thought that I would get them at a reasonable price. In the end they were bought by a dealer who seemed to think that what seemed like high prices to me we're a bargain. Maybe I am just out of touch - on the other hand the lower prices work in my favour generally because I buy to keep not to re-sell and hopefully this incident was an abberation.

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers (antiques etc)
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 12 Jul 12 - 05:51 AM

I attended the 'Dickensons Real Deal' auction a while ago but my items didn't sell.... largely because they were inadequately described in the auction catalogue. It was the auctioneer himself who valued them on the day but he couldn't sell them because he or his staff made mistakes in the catalogue..... I guess it will be televised.. will let folk know when all three programmes are on..... and hopefully give a link.

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 24 Jun 12 - 05:56 PM

May be the wrong place, but I have some books on antiques and collectables for sale.
Large 2 vol. set on pottery and porcelain, makers and marks.
Vol. on blue and white pottery and porcelain from UK.
Not in front of me, but if there is any interest I will give full details.

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 24 Jun 12 - 05:44 PM

On NPR, once a week there is a show on which art and antiques are evaluated, a spin-off from the UK Antiques Roadshow that they used to carry.

I can get BBC Radio 1 on the net. I see that the long-running Antiques Roadshow is Friday, 00.55.

I will check around and see what else is available.

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 24 Jun 12 - 01:12 PM

Just such a pity that Doulton in general has gone down in price.. as has most pottery and porcelain over the last fifteen years.... I particularly love the scraffito work of Hannah Barlow.. especially the vases with donkeys inscribed on them.. they still command a high price. A well I can wish I suppose

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: BrendanB
Date: 24 Jun 12 - 09:44 AM

I have a pretty good collection of Doulton Lambeth 'new art' pottery. Many years ago I had a stall under the Westway ( the cheap end of Portobello Road) in the Saturday market which is where I started collecting Doulton. I was a rubbish dealer and nearly always spent more than I made. Often I would buy a piece to sell and then decide that I couldn't part with it. In the end my partner booted me off the stall, quite rightly, I do not have the right attitude to be a business person, but I still love the vases etc. that I bought then. No Barlows or Tinwiths but a pair by Frank Pope and lots of other beautiful stuff.

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: Leadfingers
Date: 24 Jun 12 - 04:16 AM

100

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 24 Jun 12 - 03:27 AM

Will so do!

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Jun 12 - 08:50 PM

Cool...

Send us a link when it happens...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 23 Jun 12 - 05:13 PM

Yes Q, we have many antique and collectable programmes in the UK... Perhaps some of them find their way across to you.... You could of course try to google 'ITV player' and 'BBC player on the internet and possibly watch some of our antique programmes that way. Best wishes, Mike.

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 23 Jun 12 - 02:26 PM

I wish the programs were available in Canada.
I have been going through my collection (extremely eclectic) and giving my offspring the better items (the rest can go to the auctioneer).

Apropos your alias (monicker, handle, pen name, tag, nom de plume, etc.), I gave my pair of Georgian silver candlesticks to my older daughter. I saw them in a local auction some 50 years ago and couldn't resist.

In the mid-19th C., St Louis was a center of wealth on the edge of the frontier. I have a coin silver pitcher made by a silversmith who worked there about 1850. There were several silversmiths there at the time. The city is primarily known for beer, but all crafts flourished there 150 years ago.

Along with the impulse and junque buys, I did get some very nice items.

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 23 Jun 12 - 01:35 PM

For all our British catters.. I will be appearing on three programmes of "Dickensons Real Deal" at some point before Christmas. I will re-post to let you know when!

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: ollaimh
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 12:28 AM

on victoria crosses, there were three awarded to men who all cme from the same street in winnepeg. they changed the name of the street to valor road.

i don't unserstand collecting except for musical instruments. but then everyone can sit in a chair, listen to radio or play a sport, but few can play musical instruments. i am fasinated by what people collect and how much things go for--that seem almost useless to me.

but then my wife used to quote rita rudner about my home before we got together. " men are like bears with furniture--and ollaimh is a bear with very little furniture"

in fact i used to spend all my money on music in some way and wait for people to give me everything else--which they do eventually. i can go without furniture for years, except maybe a matress and chair, and with only two or three changes of clothes. with those i wait till friends give me things. some used to visit my apartments in the past and see a palce to deposit the detritius of decades of living in the same house--which i am fine with.

i understand collecting tools and usable items, but nowadays people collect everything from toys to advertising signs. its amazing.

so common mudcatters get back to collecting musical instruments where you all belong.

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 28 Aug 11 - 12:23 AM

In Australia we occasionally have news items about someone selling granddad's medals - the fat really hits the fire when they include a Victoria Cross the pre-eminent award for acts of bravery in wartime and Australia's highest military honour.
It is awarded to persons who, in the presence of the enemy, display the most conspicuous gallantry; a daring or pre-eminent act of valour or self-sacrifice; or extreme devotion to duty.

We are lucky enough to have a philanthropist who buys those he can at the auctions & presents them to the Australian War Memorial. (Kerry Stokes is said to have paid more than $3 million for four VCs, all of which he has donated for display at the Australian War Memorial. The memorial boasts 64 of the 98 Australian VCs awarded.)

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: Beer
Date: 27 Aug 11 - 10:18 PM

Hay!.... The older things are the more their worth. Right!!
ad.

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: kendall
Date: 27 Aug 11 - 10:10 PM

I have a set of Russian post cards all with pictures of Lenin on them. I got them in a swap aboard a Russian factory ship back in the early 70s.

Thanks to a dear friend, I now have an ancient Victrola that weighs about 200 pounds! and it is huge.

Jacqui will have a cow when she sees that.

She should be glad I like old things. Yes, I've been drinking.

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: Beer
Date: 27 Aug 11 - 07:19 PM

Refresh.
ad.

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 27 Aug 11 - 12:14 PM

I'm so glad the politicians were spending time and money on such a crucial issue. (not)

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: gnu
Date: 26 Aug 11 - 09:59 PM

Q.... and so it should be. To do otherwise is just not right. It's, at best, disrespectful.

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 26 Aug 11 - 08:41 PM

There will be a Supreme Court ruling before long. The law takes it the step farther, making it illegal to buy, sell or trade in the medals. Read the summary.

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: maeve
Date: 26 Aug 11 - 08:19 PM

From Bluesman's Wiki link:

"The Stolen Valor Act of 2005, signed into law by President George W. Bush on December 20, 2006,[1] is a U.S. law that broadens the provisions of previous U.S. law addressing the unauthorized wear, manufacture, or sale of any military decorations and medals. It makes it a federal misdemeanor offense to falsely represent oneself as having received any U.S. military decoration or medal. If convicted, defendants may be imprisoned for up to six months, unless the decoration lied about is the Medal of Honor, in which case imprisonment could be up to one year..."

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: olddude
Date: 26 Aug 11 - 07:58 PM

My understanding of the law is you can own them, display them but you cannot at anytime wear them. Only the one it was awarded to can. I know all the antique stores here in town still sell them and I find a ton of WWII medals at every flea market. There maybe something in the law about after a certain date or such .. Now the medal of honor .. no at no time can that be sold.

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: olddude
Date: 26 Aug 11 - 07:48 PM

dunno either. I have a WWII set of B17 sterling silver bomber pilot wings right here in front of me ... Wanna buy em?

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 26 Aug 11 - 07:10 PM

I collect medals, I can't understand why America introduced the SVA. Like most things, medals are personal property and should be allowed to bought, sold, traded, bartered...this trafficking in decorations, foreign included, allow succeeding generations to acquire, research, and most of all, appreciate the sacrifice and valiant deeds and also serve as a reminder of the bravery and courage of those who earned those awards. We have no such law in Britain.


The Stolen Valor Act (SVA) makes it a criminal offence to buy, sell, trade, exchange all decorations and medals; such as the Distinguished Service Cross/Navy Cross/Air Force Cross, Silver Star, and Purple Heart.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Valor_Act_of_2005

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 11:29 AM

I would by no means call myself an expert but will happily appraise any UK antiques (not furniture) for free(pm me)......if I can't appraise your particular item I will say so.
Best wishes, Mike.

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: skipy
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 11:03 AM

I've just put Eagle annuals no 1 & 2 (1951 & 2) on Ebay, found them in a skip, fingers crossed.
Skipy

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 10:15 AM

Fun to re-read this thread. I don't think I mentioned it before: one place to get appraisals is (recommended to me by an antique dealer who told me there were no appraisers in western Colorado to recommend:) What's It Worth to You?.

For ten dollars they will provide you with a certified appraisal. It depends on how much info you provide, but I have found them to be quite educational and thorough. The more pix and descriptions etc. you provide, the better the appraisal, of course. They do have a classifieds which they hope you might use but they are NOT pushy and I do not receive any spam or anything from them.

kat

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: danensis
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 08:27 AM

I overheard a lady in an antiques centre, looking at a wooden posser.

"Look at that £25! We used to have two of those in our wash-house."

Stall holder: "and what did you do with them"

Woman "Well, we chucked 'em away when we got a washing machine"

Stall holder "so did everyone else - that's why that one is £25".

John

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: autolycus
Date: 25 Nov 07 - 04:31 PM

btw, I once spent some of a happy few weeks noting things my dearest Mum would come out with. Don't know why I didn't do it more.

She once said,

"You know, they don't make antiques like they used to."


   Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: Llanfair
Date: 25 Nov 07 - 03:31 PM

I have a stall, Bron's Crafts & Curios, every Saturday and Monday on Welshpool market, and it's always overfull with interesting bits, and stuff I've rescued and renovated. I love auctions, and now I've got a van, I can widen my scope.

The crafts are things like driftwood mobiles and mirror frames, decoupaged trays, tables and boxes, mostly acquired from the local recycling centre. The pictures I use are often pre- raphaelite or faerie prints, and I age them to look as though they've always been there. Old commodes make wonderful sewing boxes, as they are so well made. A good scrub with bleach is the first step......

Collectables come and go. At present I've some 1950 scrapbooks of the royal tour and wedding, some reproduction staffs fairings and flatbacks...fun and cheap!! lots of brass and copperware, a spode bowl, lots of treen, and loads of decoupage boxes. I also rescue and renovate old sewing machines, which sell well, peg looms, made locally, funky hats, hand warmers, oh, and a full set of "cries of london" Davenport plates that my mum bought for a fortune new, thinking they would be worth a lot, which I can't shift. They don't even sell on e-bay, so care must be taken with "investments" .

I always have different stuff on the stall, and have built a steady clientele over the years.

Doesn't make a lot of money, though!!

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 25 Nov 07 - 03:30 PM

Recently bought an antique whistle (D) on Ebay for next to nothing.....

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: bankley
Date: 24 Nov 07 - 06:06 PM

ps.... Erik Frandsen's last cd is really fine. It's called "Antiques: New and Used "

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: autolycus
Date: 24 Nov 07 - 04:14 PM

I'm a half-hearted collector of recordings of Gustav Mahler's music. Only today, thanks to starting the same 'how do you buy?' thread that's up above the line here, on a Mahlerites site, I've made an exchanging contact with a Mahlerite in Arizona. (Isn't this aspect of the technology just stunning?)

Ditto recordings by Jascha Horenstein, Dictionaries of Quotations (and top-notch quotes), and books on popular fallacies (not urban myths. Instead, stuff like, King John didn't sign Magna Carta.)

Oh, and jokes. hopefully not antique ones.

   Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: bankley
Date: 24 Nov 07 - 03:28 PM

it's amazing what you can accumulate if you stay 'put' long enough and have the room... I can relate to Bobert's barn. I helped empty one (100x60) a couple of years ago....plus 2 houses... took awhile... Beer was there checking out the books. One of his buddies showed up and carted away a few loads of interesting things for resale at his store. That just scratched the surface. Stamps, guns, coins, cars, tractors, furniture, you name it..... a lot of it has a home somewhere else now, from Thailand to Ormstown and then some.. the rest went to the scrapyard or dumpster. Did sell a '62 Buick Electra to a DC doctor... gave us enough for 2 months in Europe... The Antiques Roadshow has influenced a lot of people but I learned early on that an object is worth what you can get for it, and everyone is looking for a bargain.... I'm still partial to musical instruments esp. guitars, but they're meant to be played and I can only manage one at a time. Still it's nice to have a variety of colours when doing a recording project. So now, it's simplify... keep the load light and practical.... if I can't carry it with me in a crunch, how important is it ? One great thing.... songs don't weigh much, particularly the ones committed to memory....mine is still okay........ memory that is.....

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 23 Nov 07 - 10:46 PM

I have a nice little collection of cowboy boots. Ostrich were my favorite, found used but good condition. And an old Olathe pair in elephant hide. I have a 'game' leg so don't wear them anymore, too hard to get on and off.
Here in Alberta there was a glassworks in Lloydminster that made animal figures. We picked up quite a few. The Medalta Pottery near Lethbridge made all sorts of stuff, from table ware to 'art,' so we picked some of that up too.
In the basement, packed up except for a few prize ones, is a collection of glass 'coal ile' lamps, specialized on Canadian made.
Watches? Yep, models certified for railroad use in the railroading days.
Beginning to sound like a real packrat's horde.

Subject: RE: BS: Any collectors or dealers( antiques etc)
From: Bill D
Date: 23 Nov 07 - 07:58 PM

I guess I collect beer bottles/cans....at least, I SAVE one of each type I empty. In 30 years, it has grown quite a bit! I do NOT search for & buy the ones I have not drunk, so maybe I'm not a true collector....but I do have nearly 1000 now....including one from the New Albion brewery about 1977, which began the Renaissance of American micro-breweries.