Subject: RE: Question: The Brothers Four From: PoppaGator Date: 11 Jun 10 - 05:58 PM The Brothers Four, incidentally, were among the half-dozen or so folk-revival acts in the amusingly horrendous early-60s exploitation film "Hootenanny Hoot." The film is mentioned in an old thread, currently refreshed, about Sheb Wooley and Shep Wooley. Sheb ~ the American actor and singer ~ appeared in the film and also, I believe, wrote the theme song. Here's a link to the IMDB page on this movie: "Hootenanny Hoot" IMDB provides not only the cast, but also a complete roster of the musical acts. My favorite performance in the film, by the way, is a short set by the largely-forgotten Joe and Eddie. |
Subject: RE: Question: The Brothers Four From: Reiver 2 Date: 11 Jun 10 - 04:16 PM The Brothers Four were one of the great groups to emerge during the 'folk music revival' of the 1960's, IMHO. A worthy companion of the Kingston Trio; Chad Mitchell Trio; Limelighters; Peter,Paul and Mary; New Christy Minstrels, to name a few and not to mention a host of great individual folk singers. I still have 3 'Brothers Four' albums on old 33 1/3 records: 'In Person,' 'Greatest Hits,' and 'More Big Folk Hits.' Since the mid-1970 my interest has been almost completely focused on Celtic [Irish and Scottish] music, but I still occasionally enjoy listening to some of the old 'folk' performers. What passes today for 'popular music' does nothing for me and noise like 'hip-hop'and 'rap' hardly merit being referred to as music [IMHO, of course!] Reiver 2 |
Subject: RE: Question: The Brothers Four From: pdq Date: 11 Jun 10 - 11:37 AM ...they say the memory is the first thing to go, but I can't remember who said it... " Summer Of His Years and Rally 'Round the Flag" ~ Chad Mitchell Trio, just after Kennedy was killed "Green Leaves of Summer" ~ from John Wayne movie |
Subject: RE: Question: The Brothers Four From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 11 Jun 10 - 11:30 AM "Greenfields" was their first big hit single. The inclusion of their music in John Wayne's bloated "The Alamo" pushed them to the forefront. |
Subject: RE: Question: The Brothers Four From: SINSULL Date: 11 Jun 10 - 11:27 AM nevermind... It was Summer Of His Years and Rally 'Round the Flag. SINS |
Subject: RE: Question: The Brothers Four From: SINSULL Date: 11 Jun 10 - 11:26 AM I saw them in concert sometime in the early 60s. Somewhere I have some old vinyls worn almost to death. "Tracks" for sure. Wasn't Brother Where Are You combined with Rally 'Round The Flag? Vague memory. |
Subject: RE: Question: The Brothers Four From: Arkie Date: 11 Jun 10 - 11:25 AM While I did not buy any of the Brothers albums I did enjoy the music of the original group and had a chance to see them live at a Duke concert in the early 60s. It was an excellent concert and one I still remember fondly from time to time. |
Subject: RE: Question: The Brothers Four From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 11 Jun 10 - 11:15 AM Over the years, I've seen a number of performers and groups who I had once seen in their original incarnations. Some get better over the years, simply from acquiring more stage presence and musicianship. Some soldier on, moving down from television and big stages to Las Vegas and Reno and then to county fairs and casino showrooms. Some morph into entirely different entities, with new members and different sounds. The "nostalgia market" keeps them going. Bob Shane, a founding member of the Kingston Trio, was once asked why he continued to perform after so many years. He answered, "Why not? It's a nice middle class income and I'm doing something I like." If that wasn't the exact quote, it was close. I was OK with it. On the whole, though, I would rather remember them as they once were, when they were at their peak, with original people, and when they first captured my attention. I would not pay to go and see a group advertised as "The Kingston Trio" or "The Limeliters" which was made up of entirely different people, but many apparently are willing to do just that. I saw Frank Sinatra when he was so old he had trouble singing from a giant teleprompter. It was sad. |
Subject: RE: Question: The Brothers Four From: Deckman Date: 11 Jun 10 - 10:44 AM Hmmmm? (second time I've tried to post???) I attended their concert about two years ago in Seattle. They were great ... harmonies as tight as ever. Bob(deckman)Nelson |
Subject: RE: Question: The Brothers Four From: GUEST,Bruce14 Date: 11 Jun 10 - 09:30 AM I cannot find ANY information as to "where are they now?" regarding the original four, except I know Bob Flick married Loni Anderson of WKRP in Cincinnati and is still in the band. But what about Mssrs. Foley, Payne, and especially Mike Kirkland? |
Subject: RE: Question: The Brothers Four From: Stilly River Sage Date: 26 Nov 05 - 11:07 PM Was there supposed to be a link in that last post, Joe? This takes me back to my childhood in Seattle. I think I have some of those earliest albums from my Dad's collection. SRS
It's fixed now, though. Thanks. -Joe- |
Subject: RE: Question: The Brothers Four From: Joe Offer Date: 26 Nov 05 - 05:17 PM But that's not all. These albums are from the "easy listening" period of the Brothers Four. Special Request might be worthy of a reissue, but I highly question the value of the rest of them. You can find a full discography with even more exciting information at this site (click). 1964 By Special Request
A2 Across The Sea A3 Viva La Compagnie A4 Take This Hammer A5 Nobody Knows A6 Wish I Was In Bowling Green B1 Brady, Brady, Brady B2 The John B. Sails B3 The Tavern Song B4 Frogg B5 Summer Days Alone B6 Ole Smokey 1965 Try to Remember
A2 Sloth A3 Wild Colonial Boy A4 I Remember When I Loved Her A5 Sakura A6 Come Kiss Me Love B1 What Now My Love B2 Malaika B3 Born Free B4 Gimme That Wine B5 The Song From Moulin Rouge B6 When Ev'rything Was Green 1966 Beatles' Songbook
2 Yesterday 3 All My Loving 4 Nowhere Man 5 I'll Follow The Sun 6 And I Love Her 7 If I Fell 8 Help 9 Michelle 10 We Can Work It Out 11 Girl 1967 A New World's Record
A2 Umbrellas In The Rain A3 Shenandoah A4 Have You Got A Light Boy A5 It Was A Very Good Year A6 Meantime B1 Here Today And Gone Tomorrow B2 No Sad Songs For Me B3 Changes B4 The First Time Ever B5 All I Need Is You 1969 Let's Get Together
A2 Without Her A3 I'll Be Your Baby Tonight A4 Both Sides Now A5 Wichita Lineman A6 Revolution B1 The Strangest Dream B2 Glad She's A Woman B3 Skip A Rope B4 Medley: - I've Got To Get A Message To You - Words - I Started A Joke B5 Abraham, Martin And John B6 Let's Get Together (reprise) The Brothers Four – 1970
A2 Here I Go Again A3 The Hippopotamus A4 Affair On Eight Avenue A5 November Snow B1 Darlin' Be Home Soon B2 Love Of The Common People B3 I Will Be There B4 Reason To Believe B5 Glory Road B6 Hey, That's No Way To Say Goodbye The Brothers Four - Four Strong Winds (date unknown)
A2 Seven Daffodils A3 The Monkey And The Engineer A4 Tomorrow Is A Long Time A5 Dance Me A Jig B1 Take This Hammer B2 Four Strong Winds B3 Beans Taste Fine B4 Ballad Of Moretown Bay |
Subject: RE: Question: The Brothers Four From: Joe Offer Date: 26 Nov 05 - 04:22 PM This should be a more complete discography of the Brothers Four LP's: 1970 1970 1969 Let's Get Together 1967 A New World's Record 1966 Merry Christmas [CBS] 1966 Beatles' Songbook 1965 Try to Remember 1965 The Honey Wind Blows 1964 More Big Folk Hits 1964 By Special Request 1964 The Brothers Four Sing of Our Times 1963 The Big Folk Hits 1963 Cross-Country Concert 1962 The Brothers Four in Person 1961 The Brothers Four Songbook 1961 B.M.O.C. - Best Music On/Off Campus 1961 Roamin' with the Brothers Four 1960 The Brothers Four 1960 Rally 'Round the Brothers Four 1960 The Alamo [Original Soundtrack] source: http://www.mmguide.musicmatch.com/artist/artist.cgi?ARTISTID=332761 Here's one Brothers Four album that hasn't been reissued:
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Subject: RE: Question: The Brothers Four From: jimmyt Date: 26 Nov 05 - 03:09 PM Thanks for the interesting thread and thank you Joe for the great resources about B4 Clooector's Choice collection. Will be getting it ASAP |
Subject: ADD: Little Play Soldiers (Marty Cooper) From: Barry T Date: 26 Nov 05 - 12:38 PM Thanks for the link and the track listings, Joe Offer! Their sales just went up by a couple. There is a song from 'The Honey Wind Blows' album... 'Little Play Soldiers'... that was relevant when I first heard it, and is even more meaningful to me now. Though I suppose it was conceived as an anti-war song, it doesn't resonate with me for that reason. (I'm a retired career officer) I have a photo of my son fast asleep in his bed with his toy rifle alongside. Now he's in the British Army carrying a real one, going nasty places, dealing with nasty situations. Two photos side by side... powerful images. LITTLE PLAY SOLDIERS Little play soldiers, their games are such fun Each with his helmet and little toy gun Pretending they're lying on the battlefield dead After they're tucked away, safe in their bed. Little play soldiers if only you knew What kind of battles are waiting for you. Quiet! Don't disturb all the innocence of youth Tell them not to lie, but never tell them the truth That men will fall and die, while little boys grow But little play soldiers are too busy to know. Little play soldiers if only you knew What kind of battles are waiting for you. Little white crosses, their rows are so long How will it end if they don't know it's wrong For little play soldiers will never know why We love them and kiss them and send them to die. Little play soldiers if only you knew What kind of battles are waiting for you. I know the Kingston Trio recorded this earlier than the Brothers Four. Can anyone supply the name of the composer? 'Would be nice to include an acknowledgement!
-Joe Offer- |
Subject: RE: Question: The Brothers Four From: Once Famous Date: 25 Nov 05 - 05:29 PM I was a huge Kingston Trio fan, but the Brothers Four left me just lukewarm. They just never had either the vibrancy, enthusiasm, or excitement as the KT. Though their harmonies were smooth, there was just no edge to it and they sounded a bit too much like a glee club. But if the Bro4 still have at least 1 original member today, that is more that I can say about the Kingston Trio, who are now working with two members who were Limeliters replacements. |
Subject: RE: Question: The Brothers Four From: Joe Offer Date: 25 Nov 05 - 04:22 PM I suppose you couldn't call this "authentic" folk music, but I liked the Brothers Four and all the other Kingston Trio Clones of the 1960's. Oh, I suppose some of these groups may have started before the Kingston Trio, but it was the success of the Kingston Trio that allowed all these other acts to become popular. Collectors Choice Music has five two-fer CD's available for this group:
There's also a Columbia CD called The Brothers Four Greatest Hits
-Joe Offer- |
Subject: RE: Question: The Brothers Four From: Peace Date: 24 Nov 05 - 11:51 PM Pic here. |
Subject: RE: Question: The Brothers Four From: Gene Date: 24 Nov 05 - 11:46 PM my son's wife was a big fan of the Brothers Four some years ago...and as a result of buying lps for her -- I became a big fan also. --think I have about every LP they recorded. another group came out of the northwest area (Oregon?) Dr. Corn's Bluegrass Remedy... happy pickin' & grinnin' to ya! |
Subject: RE: Question: The Brothers Four From: GUEST,Tinker in Chicago Date: 24 Nov 05 - 10:35 PM Over the years there have been many other Brothers joining the act, notably Terry Lauber and Mark Pearson. Bob Haworth was in one incarnation of the group when he was asked to double as a member of the Kingston Trio due to the unexpected death of Roger Gambill. There still is a Brothers Four, though I think only one original member is in it. Put the name on Google and you'll be directed to their website. |
Subject: RE: Question: The Brothers Four From: Rabbi-Sol Date: 24 Nov 05 - 10:21 PM Thank you all very much for the info. I borrowed a CD of theirs from my local public library and the jacket just listed the songs but did not give any biographical information. SOL ZELLER |
Subject: RE: Question: The Brothers Four From: Joe Offer Date: 24 Nov 05 - 09:55 PM Hi, Sol - here's a quote from www.allmusic.com: One major misconception about the Brothers Four is that they were an attempt to emulate the Kingston Trio. Actually, Bob Flick (upright bass, baritone, bass), John Paine (guitar, baritone), Mike Kirkland (guitar, banjo, tenor), and Dick Foley (guitar, baritone) had met as undergraduates at the University of Washington in 1956 and began singing together in 1957, more than a year before the Kingston Trio made their first record. Folk music was booming at most liberal arts colleges in those days, and every campus seemed to have its share of trios and quartets, mostly drawn from the ranks of their fraternities. Flick, Paine, Kirkland, and Foley were all members of Phi Gamma Delta and aspired to careers in medicine, engineering, and diplomacy -- as amateur performers, however, they were good on their instruments and delighted campus audiences with their ability to harmonize on traditional tunes, novelty songs, and romantic ballads. They turned professional completely by accident, as a result of a practical joke. A member of a rival fraternity arranged for a woman to telephone the group members, identifying herself as the secretary to the manager of a local Seattle venue, the Colony Club, and invite the quartet down to audition. When they got there, they discovered that there was no invitation or any audition scheduled, but since they were there anyway, the club manager asked them to do a couple of songs and ended up hiring them. The engagement lasted through most of 1958, and while they were often paid off only in beer, the experience was invaluable in that it allowed the group -- christened after their impromptu audition as the Brothers Four -- to pull its sound together as they never would have if they'd remained confined to occasional performances on campus. Take a look at the rest of their biograhy at allmusic. It will tell you more than you'd ever want to know. -Joe Offer- |
Subject: RE: Question: The Brothers Four From: Peace Date: 24 Nov 05 - 09:47 PM "Their career began quite innocently. Bob Flick (acoustic bass), John Paine (guitar), Mike Kirkland (guitar & banjo) and Dick Foley (guitar) met at the University of Washington in 1956." from Here ya go, Rebbe. |
Subject: Question: The Brothers Four From: Rabbi-Sol Date: 24 Nov 05 - 09:36 PM What were the names of the individual members of the singing group "The Brothers Four" ? Also, were any of them ever members of any other singing groups as well ? SOL ZELLER |
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