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Richard Bridge 26 Nov 05 - 03:42 PM
Peace 26 Nov 05 - 04:19 PM
Peace 26 Nov 05 - 04:21 PM
Peace 26 Nov 05 - 04:22 PM
Peace 26 Nov 05 - 04:50 PM
Dave Hanson 27 Nov 05 - 04:24 AM
Richard Bridge 27 Nov 05 - 12:41 PM
Dave Hanson 28 Nov 05 - 02:58 AM
Richard Bridge 28 Nov 05 - 04:16 AM
Dave Hanson 28 Nov 05 - 08:27 AM
Richard Bridge 28 Nov 05 - 09:58 AM
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Subject: Re-capture of serial number
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 03:42 PM

I have an old-ish guitar which, I hasten to add, I came by legitimately.

The serial number, which would have been printed on a paper label, has been erased. The label is intact but the surface looks roughened on the three relevant lines.

Any suggestions how I (or anyone more expert) might be able to read the erased number? I have tried the ultra-violet light used to test banknotes, and it does not help.


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Subject: RE: Re-capture of serial number (guitar)
From: Peace
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 04:19 PM

One thing that might work. Carefully apply heat--maybe from a hair dryer thingy, and take pictures every ten seconds or so with infrared film. Just may come up on the film if there was a carbon base to whatever was use to put the number there in the first place.

Also, a police forensics lab could help because they do that kinda stuff all the time.


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Subject: RE: Re-capture of serial number (guitar)
From: Peace
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 04:21 PM

Try the police lab first.


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Subject: RE: Re-capture of serial number (guitar)
From: Peace
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 04:22 PM

Also, a university archaeology department should be able to help.


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Subject: RE: Re-capture of serial number (guitar)
From: Peace
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 04:50 PM

Dang, I'm making a botch of this.

Heat the area with the hair dryer thing. Turn the hair dryer off and give it to the dog. Then, over a few minutes as the area cools, take a picture--using black and white infrared film--every ten seconds or so. Note that use of black and white infrared film necessitates a lens adjustment. Not so with colour infrared. FYI.


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Subject: RE: Re-capture of serial number (guitar)
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 04:24 AM

Ask Frank Ford at FRETS.COM he's an expert at doing this.

eric


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Subject: RE: Re-capture of serial number (guitar)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 12:41 PM

Thank you Eric - there does not sem to be a way of asking Frank directly on his site (which is very interesting and I have been there before) but he has a link to the acoustic guitar forum run by and for acoustic guitar magazine and I have started a thread there.


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Subject: RE: Re-capture of serial number (guitar)
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 28 Nov 05 - 02:58 AM

Richard, you can contact Frank at, frankjoy@aol.com he'll need to know what country you are in and be sure it's not spam as he gets a lot of it.

eric


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Subject: RE: Re-capture of serial number (guitar)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 28 Nov 05 - 04:16 AM

Thanks - but you maybe ought to have pm'd me that so that not everyone has this as a point of reference to it.


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Subject: RE: Re-capture of serial number (guitar)
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 28 Nov 05 - 08:27 AM

It's publicly available on the FRETS.COM site.

eric


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Subject: RE: Re-capture of serial number (guitar)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 28 Nov 05 - 09:58 AM

Funny - I couldn't find it - but apologies for the criticism then


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