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Origins: for tune used in 'Les lacs du connemara'

rpavarotti 02 Dec 05 - 08:35 AM
MartinRyan 02 Dec 05 - 02:12 PM
Malcolm Douglas 02 Dec 05 - 10:02 PM
ard mhacha 03 Dec 05 - 04:51 AM
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Subject: Origins: Irish tune used 'Les lacs du connemara'
From: rpavarotti
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 08:35 AM

Jacques Revaux, French musician, used an Irish or Scottish air (and probably there was a ballad/song attached to it) to compose a more modern version of the tune and Michel Sardou (a French singer) wrote lyrics for this tune called "Les lacs du Connemara" (Connemara lakes).

I would like to find the original tune, its name and tablatures, and anything else relevant about the original tune and possibly lyrics if there was any.

There was also an anedocte about this tune that may refresh some memories.

It was used as a tune in a Fianna Fail's political campaign during one of the last Irish elections (since 1981 date of the French song). I strongly believe that Charles Haughey was then the leader of the political party.
It may have been the 1987 general election and the tune was played regularly on RTE (the Irish television channel) during that campaign.

I was told at the time that Michel Sardou (or the musician or maybe the music editor ...) tried to sue the Fianna fail political party for having used their copyrighted tune, during this campaign ... but obviously the tune was originally from Ireland (or maybe Scotland? as I was lately told ) . I do not remember the outcome although I always assumed the information conveyed to me was correct (i.e. that there was an attempt by Sardou or his lawyers to get money out of it).

So if somebody could at least point me to the right tune ... I could then try to chase the original song if there was one and find out what really happened about this incident

here are some sites with the beginning of the tune at amazone.com:
(with search for "lacs du connemara":

Amazone page for Les lacs du connemara

No Michel sardou official site:

Lacs on his official site

on his site vido format

clip formar video

And on this site here is the tune

Music sheet - Les lacs du connemara

And here Sardou's lyrics (which have nothing to do I believe with the original song (if there was lyrics)

LES LACS DU CONNEMARA (Michel Sardou)



R- Terre brulée au vent des landes de pierre
Autour des lacs c'est pour les vivants
Un peu d'enfer le Connemara
Des nuages noirs qui viennent du Nord
Colorent la terre les lacs et rivières
C'est le décor du Connemara

Ré Sol Ré
La Si m
La
Mi m Si 7 Mi m
Si 7 Mi m
La

1- Au printemps suivant le ciel irlandais
Etant en paix Maureen a plongé nue
Dans le lac du Connemara
Sean Kelly s'est dit je suis catholique
Maureen aussi l'église en granit
De Limerick Maureen a dit oui
De Tipperrary Bally Connely et de Galway
Ils sont arrivés dans le comté du Connemara
Y avait les Connor les O'Conolly les Flaherty
Du ring of Kerry et de quoi boire trois jours et deux nuits
Là-bas au Connemara on sait tout le prix du silence
Là-bas au Connemara on dit que la vie
C'est une folie et que la folie ça danse

Ré Sol Ré
La Si m
La Si 7
Mi m Si 7 Mi m
Si 7 Mi m
Si 7 Mi m Mi m7 La Mi m7 La
Fa Si b Fa
Do Ré m Do Ré 7
Sol m Ré 7 Sol m
Ré 7 Sol m Do Sol #7
Do # Si b7 Mi bm Mi b Do # Sol #7
Fa 7 Si bm Fa Fa #
Fa Si bm7 Mi bm Sol# La 7

2- On y vit encore au temps des Gaels
Et de Cromwell au rythme
Des pluies et du soleil
Au pas des chevaux
On y croit encore
Aux monstres des lacs qu'on voit nager
Certains soirs d'été
Et replonger pour l'éternité
On y voit encore des hommes d'ailleurs
Venus chercher le repos de l'âme
Et pour le cœur un goût de meilleur
On y croit encore que le jour viendra
Il est tout près où les Irlandais feront la paix
Autour de la croix
Là-bas au Connemara
On n'accepte pas la paix des Gallois
Ni celle des rois d'Angleterre

From a Frenchman who has lived in Ireland for the last 25 years but who has lost his memoory!!!!

Slan
Rolland - Limerick


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Subject: RE: Origins: for tune used in 'Les lacs du connemara'
From: MartinRyan
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 02:12 PM

The only tune I can recall being used as a campaign song by Charles Haughey was the Jacobite (and obvious) "Rise and follow Charlie".

Regards


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Subject: RE: Origins: for tune used in 'Les lacs du connemara'
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 10:02 PM

Most of the audio links don't work, but it's possible to hear one via IE if you search the site linked to. I'd be astonished if the tune is Irish or Scottish; it sounds like a typical modern French production-number to me.

I suppose that an older tune might be hidden away in there, thoroughly disguised by the arrangement; but on the whole I doubt it. Perhaps someone will recognise something, though.

Charles Haughey doesn't always seem to have had the very best of advisors, mind.


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Subject: RE: Origins: for tune used in 'Les lacs du connema
From: ard mhacha
Date: 03 Dec 05 - 04:51 AM

Martin, this was the same tune as sung by The Corries, "Rise and follow Charlie" and boy was it a toe-curler considering the con-man it was meant to portray.


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Subject: RE: Origins: for tune used in 'Les lacs du connema
From: ard mhacha
Date: 03 Dec 05 - 05:12 AM

Bye the way that con-man was Haughey, not the Prince, although, could be, the two of them would qualify.


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Subject: RE: Origins: for tune used in 'Les lacs du connemara'
From: MartinRyan
Date: 03 Dec 05 - 08:31 AM

Both with more style than substance....!

Regards


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