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Re release of Derek Brimstone's 1st album

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Subject: Re release of Derek Brimstone's 1st albu
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 17 Dec 05 - 04:19 AM

Just yesterday I heard a most remarkably good folk cd. It was the re-release of an album that few of us have heard although we may have heard of. This was Derek Brimstone's first album. recorded originally for the Fontana label in 1968, which must have been just about the first year I ever saw Derek perform - I seem to remember him mentioning the fact that he had an album when he gigged the teacher training college where I was sequestered at the time.

However such are the fortunes of war in the music business, that Fontana was taken over and this wonderful album was lost to posterity until a Japanese fan of Derek's sorted out all the paper work and got this album remastered.

When Derek told me this was happening I was I admit cautious in my optimism to say the least. The only track I knew, was She Loved a Portuguese, which had been widely anthologised in the 1970's. I can remember counselling Derek to concentrate on the future and use the modern recording technology to create something new.

However having said that, with digital re-mastering this album is revealed as an absolute gem. The sound quality sparkles and we hear a young folk singer with truly remarkable instrumental facility giving several absolutely top rate performances.

The album kicks off (as so many Brimstone gig's) with John Martyn's Fairtytale Lullaby. The choice of songwriters for this project must have been cutting edge in 1968 - The Incredible String Band, Jackson C Frank also featuring. Cripple Creek gets 1000 miles an hour Scruggs style banjo picking, rather than frailing (- nice guitar accompaniment there as well, doesn't say who dat man!). There are nods to his cockney heritage with She Loved a Portuguese and Salvation Army Lassie. And above all else there is the coffee bar cowboy chic of Rambling Jack Elliot, which clearly entrances and captures the imagination of this young feller who can really handle a Gibson guitar.

Its also interesting to hear the light delicacy of Derek's voice in those years - heard to good effect on a calypso - an attempt to welcome what was to be the new multiculturalism of modern Britain. Of course coming from the East End of London - Derek had always come from a cosmopolitan sort of background, so he was always going to be one step ahead of us provincial types there.

When I rediscovered Brimstone for myself around 1975. To me, his music was absolutely inspirational. It was the start of my performing career. By that time the 'traditional' approach to folk music was everywhere except the more showbizzy type venues like the Boggery in Brum. Brimstone was being hailed as a founding father of the 'folk comedian' movement - by Jasper Carrot and Billy Connolly amongst others. The schism in folk world was a mile wide - with not much respect coming from either side for the other.

however it was always Derek's music that did it for me. I came from a fairly folky family - clog dancing Grandad, mandoline strumming dad, Irish Banjo playing/ballad singing uncles - but none of them danced jigs an reels and none of them would have related to Martin Carthy or the late great Peter Bellamy's approach to folksinging.

The music on this album is traditional folk music that goes right back to something your parents could have understood. When the record company decided to skip this album, they turned their back on what could have been a whole era of accessible folk music - eschewing the bland populism of The Spinners, but speaking in an intelligent manner the common tongue of the English people.

That's record company folk for you - well you always knew THEY were wankers without me telling you!

This cd is an absolute must for any Brimstone fan - buy it yourself for Christmas!


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Subject: RE: Re release of Derek Brimstone's 1st albu
From: Sooz
Date: 17 Dec 05 - 04:39 AM

Excellent news


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Subject: RE: Re release of Derek Brimstone's 1st albu
From: Betsy
Date: 17 Dec 05 - 06:08 AM

Well done weelittledrummer.
Great News
I'll buy it - the only thing you missed ( I think ) was to mention what a fabulous, warm, friendly and accessible person that Derek is - he really is.

Cheers

Betsy


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Subject: RE: Re release of Derek Brimstone's 1st albu
From: GUEST,Bainbo
Date: 17 Dec 05 - 06:18 AM

The only record of Derek's I had was his excellent "Cheapo Album" - which, I think, included Icarus - and that was on vinyl, so I've been deprived of listening to him for a long while. I may have to invest.
Regarding his "cosmopolitan background", do you you remember his tale about his Uncle Hymie, who used to spend family gatherings moaning "No one cares about the Jews. If that National Front get into power, they're going to kill 3,000 Jews and four postmen." To which Derek replied: "Four postmen?"

"You see," he said. "No one cares about the Jews."

And the thing is, he always convinced me. Every time he told a story I'd believe him - right until he got to punchline.


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Subject: RE: Re release of Derek Brimstone's 1st albu
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 17 Dec 05 - 06:47 AM

Apart from the studio bits - I recorded the live bits of that Cheapo one, on one of the first portastudios. I even get a mention on the goldfish farts track....!


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Subject: RE: Re release of Derek Brimstone's 1st albu
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 18 Dec 05 - 03:56 AM

refresh


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Subject: RE: Re release of Derek Brimstone's 1st albu
From: Dreadnought
Date: 18 Dec 05 - 06:09 AM

Where is the CD available from, WLD?


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Subject: RE: Re release of Derek Brimstone's 1st albu
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 18 Dec 05 - 07:29 AM

you're the second person to ask and I've just phoned del, to find out - got the answerphone - I will post here soon as I've got an answer.

I will definitely sort it out - promise!


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Subject: RE: Re release of Derek Brimstone's 1st albu
From: GUEST,woodsie
Date: 18 Dec 05 - 08:39 AM

You can see Derek live at Orpington Folk Club in February!

See here.


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Subject: RE: Re release of Derek Brimstone's 1st albu
From: Lancashire Lad
Date: 18 Dec 05 - 12:55 PM

I love both his albums on the Rubber label. Hopefully they will get a re-issue soon too

Cheers
LL


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Subject: RE: Re release of Derek Brimstone's 1st albu
From: Cllr
Date: 18 Dec 05 - 01:06 PM

He is on at Bedford folk club now at the Fleur de lys mill street bedford 19 January
i hope he will have copies there I think he is a wonderful performer.

Cllr


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Subject: RE: Re release of Derek Brimstone's 1st albu
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 10:56 AM

refresh


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Subject: RE: Re release of Derek Brimstone's 1st album
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 21 Dec 05 - 07:11 AM

refresh


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Subject: RE: Re release of Derek Brimstone's 1st album
From: GUEST,Brimmo
Date: 21 Dec 05 - 07:46 AM

Hello all,
          Derek Brimstone here. Thanks for all the nice things that people have said. Most gratifying. If anybody would like one, e.mail me. My e.mail address is in my website.
      
Happy Christmas   - Brimmo


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Subject: RE: Re release of Derek Brimstone's 1st album
From: PennyBlack
Date: 21 Dec 05 - 07:57 PM

Derek's website


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Subject: RE: Re release of Derek Brimstone's 1st album
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 24 Dec 05 - 05:51 PM

derek phoned up today and thanked me for the review. turn out the guitar accompanist to his banjo, was DB himself multi-tracking.


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Subject: Derek Brimstone on Woven Wheat
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 08:39 AM

Just got a phone call from elder statesman of the UK folkscene, Derek Brimstone.

Claimed as an influence by by artist racnteurs like Billy Connolly and Jasper Carrot, Derek Brimstone is also a superlative banjo ad guitar player whose musicianship won the top award at Cambridge Folk Festival. Apart from having a huge fanbase in the UK, his tours in Africa and Australia and virtually everywhere apart from the USA have given him a big following in many parts of the world.

I am proud to recorded one or two of his albums myself. Derek's work is now available from Woven Wheat at this address.

http://www.wovenwheatwhispers.co.uk/Label-Review-Derek_Brimstone.htm

For Derek's fan's there are sound snippets to listen to, albums which haven't been available for years -its a really nice page. Ian Southworth has done a great job for this great English minstrel.

Well done Woven Wheat!

I urge you (particularly if you are from America and haven't had a chance to experience this terrific artist) to take a look. In many ways Derek Brimstone symbolises much of what is best in the English folk club scene - the skill at presenting quite serious music, the dedication to making it seem effortless, and above all the humour - you will love him , as we all do.


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Subject: RE: Re release of Derek Brimstone's 1st album
From: Fidjit
Date: 19 Oct 07 - 11:39 AM

Derek and humour

Couple of track with a few laughs and music

Chas


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Subject: RE: Re release of Derek Brimstone's 1st album
From: Joe Offer
Date: 09 Jul 09 - 04:42 PM

Since Woven Wheat Whispers is no longer in operation, is there an easy way for me to get Derek Brimstone's recordings here in California?

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Re release of Derek Brimstone's 1st album
From: GUEST,Hot Dog
Date: 06 Jun 14 - 06:52 PM

Can anyone tell me if I can get Fire and Brimstone which I had when I was much younger and I played until it wore out!


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Subject: RE: Re release of Derek Brimstone's 1st album
From: Bugsy
Date: 06 Jun 14 - 10:30 PM

Fidjit, I know it's old but I tried the above link and it didn't work.

Cheers
Bugsy


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Subject: RE: Re release of Derek Brimstone's 1st album
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 06 Jun 14 - 10:55 PM

I'll try and sort it for you


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Subject: RE: Re release of Derek Brimstone's 1st album
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 07 Jun 14 - 03:37 AM

The only recording of Derek I have is his contribution to "There was this bloke" on vinyl. I'd love to get my hands on more. I have fond memories of seeing Derek perform in clubs and at festivals over the years.


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