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Lyr Req: Old Dartmouth

Q (Frank Staplin) 31 Dec 05 - 03:59 PM
Peace 31 Dec 05 - 05:50 PM
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Q (Frank Staplin) 31 Dec 05 - 08:17 PM
Mark Cohen 01 Jan 06 - 04:34 AM
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Subject: Lyr Req: OLD DARTMOUTH
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 03:59 PM

Looking for a Dartmouth song, pre-1860, titled "Old Dartmouth.
A college song book of 1860 lists "Old Dartmouth" as the air for "Jubilate," another Dartmouth song. In another song book, the air for "Jubilate" is cited as "It's a Way We Have at Old Harvard."

"It's A Way...," a drinking song, is printed with music in "Carmina Collegensia," 1868, pp. 9-10. By inference, this could be the tune for "Old Dartmouth," but this is not certain.
I would also like to find the lyrics to "Old Dartmouth," which have disappeared from more recent songbooks.
Help would be much appreciated.

Note- not the same "Jubilate," sung at Hamilton College, which uses "John Brown" as the air.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: OLD DARTMOUTH
From: Peace
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 05:50 PM

Q

I googled

old dartmouth.

Have a look at the second or third site down. It's a PDF file. Refers to Dartmouth, NH.

Sorry. I'd provide a link but I'm using a freind's laptop and I can't figure out how to cut and paste.

There are some lyrics at the bottom of the page. Have a look anyway.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: OLD DARTMOUTH
From: Peace
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 07:13 PM

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:jbdaVdiBbRkJ:www.dartmouth.edu/~speccoll/Resources/DartmouthHistory/AlmaMater.shtml+%22old+da


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: OLD DARTMOUTH
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 08:17 PM

Only found the songs which begin "Come fellows, let us raise a song" and "Dear Old Dartmouth give a rouse," both from the 1890s. Neither "Carmina Collegensia," 1868 nor College Songs, 1860, have anything that approaches al alma mater. The "Academy Song-Book" of 1895 ignores Dartmouth.
The only reference I have is the use of "Old Dartmouth" as an air for "Jubilate" in 1860.
Any green men from Dartmouth out there?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: OLD DARTMOUTH
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 04:34 AM

I could give you the words to "Old Nassau," but I don't suppose that would be of much help...

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: Lyr Add: JUBILATE
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 02:27 PM

Old Nassau is an old timer (1862) but no, Princeton and "Old North" is more than a whoop and a holler away.
I have found "Old Amherst," Old Brown, Old Harvard, Old Hobart, Old Williams, Old Yale, (too many " " to type) and probably others.

I suspect that it may have been a parody of "It's a Way We Have at Old Harvard," because that is cited as the tune for "Jubilate" in "Carmina Collegensia" (1868), while "Old Dartmouth" is cited as the "Jubilate" tune in "College Songs" (1860). However, "It's a Way We Have at Old Harvard" is printed with music in "College Songs."

"It's a Way We Have at Old Princeton" appears in "Carmina Princetonia," so "It's a Way ..." seems to have been used at several of the old schools.

Lyr. Add: JUBILATE
AI Baker Thompson
Air: Old Dartmouth

We have come together to-night, Boys,
With hearts merry and light, Boys,
In accordance with our right, Boys
To have a jubilee, etc.
[To have a jubilee,
To have a jubilee,
To have a jubilee,
In accordance with our right, Boys,
To have a jubilee.]

Released from care and vexation,
And the pangs of recitation,
We're just in a situation
To have a jubilee, etc.

We've studied mathematical science,
In sulLen, reluctant compliance,
With "the laws" which we set at defiance
To have a jubilee, etc.

We loathe mathematicas artes,
Thesis et ictus et arsis,
In animo all of our class is,
To have a jubilee, etc.

Then fill up the bowl to the brim, Boys,
With brandy, nor wine, nor gin, Boys,
For these cause the brain to swim, Boys,
Hurrah for a jubilee, etc.

The lyrics of "Jubilate" from "College Songs," 1860, compiled and arranged by C. Wistar Stevens, pub. Russell and Tolman, Boston.


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