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Subject: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Joe Offer Date: 21 Jan 99 - 05:43 PM A year or two ago, I saw a newspaper article about a U.S. organization or government agency that has suggested a list of songs that should be taught in schools, fifty songs that are an essential part of our culture. As I recall, it was a pretty good selection. I lost the article, and I'd be grateful to anyone who can find the list for us and post it. In the meantime, I think it would be a good idea for us to come up with our own list, so I hereby solicit suggestions for the list. Just one rule: the songs have to be ones that most people know already, songs that are an actual part of the mainstream of our culture - not songs we wish people would know. Lists for Canada, Australia, Great Britain, Ireland, New Zealand, and other countries are certainly welcomed and encouraged. I'll probably come back with more later, but here are my first few: Happy Birthday to YouWell, that's a start. What else? -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Tiger Date: 21 Jan 99 - 06:20 PM A couple more.....Tiger
Amazing Grace |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Sail Date: 21 Jan 99 - 06:47 PM Joe, I have a copy of that article, or one like it, right here in my RUS book. Here's the list of "42" songs the Music Educators Nat'l Conference says every American should know:
Amazing Grace We need to add: Swinging on a Star for one.
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: dick greenhaus Date: 21 Jan 99 - 06:50 PM If everyone knew, and sang, fifty songs it wouldn't much matter which ones they were, Unless they're all planning to sing in (shudder) unison. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: alison Date: 21 Jan 99 - 07:11 PM Hi, Anyone else noticed how many of these double up with the "folk songs to ditch" thread. I'll have a think about the Irish version...So far the only Irish one mentioned has been "I'll take you home again Kathleen"..... ugh.... (sorry... one of my pet hates). Slainte alison |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: dick greenhaus Date: 21 Jan 99 - 07:13 PM And I have no idea why this (epithet deleted) Macintosh insists on truncationg my messages. Please add a terminal "n" to the last one |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Don Meixner Date: 21 Jan 99 - 07:47 PM Alison, The interesting thing is Kathleen was written by a man named Westendorf, my spellage may be wrong, not your typical Irish name. And if my memory is correct, he wrote it in Canada for his wife who was dying of TB. Here in America we have a great tradition of real Irish songs heving been written by German Jewish guys in New York city. Which is a long way from Irish Catholic guys living in Derry. :-) Don. I would add:
When I'm Gone, by Phil Ochs
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Barbara Shaw Date: 21 Jan 99 - 07:57 PM How about:
Hard Times (O.K., skip the last two). |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Bill D Date: 21 Jan 99 - 08:06 PM Dunderbeck(or Johnny Rebeck..or 3-4 other names) The Worms Crawl in.... lots of kids camp songs... |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: alison Date: 21 Jan 99 - 08:11 PM Here you go Don, Everything you ever wanted to know, (or not as the case may be......) about Kathleen. Slainte alison |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Bob Biderman Date: 21 Jan 99 - 08:18 PM One of the songs on Don Meixner's list is The Log Driver's Waltz. That one goes on the Canadian list Don. It was written by Wade Hemsworth, who also wrote The Black Fly Song. Bob |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: catspaw49 Date: 21 Jan 99 - 10:03 PM Hey Great!!! A meaty "thought" type thread. Love the stuff that gives you something to think about while doing the daily grind. Be back later. THANK YOU JOE!!!catspaw |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Big Mick Date: 21 Jan 99 - 10:06 PM I am tempted to add to both the US and Ireland list. But even with the extensive background that my family, fellow musicians, and friends have blessed me with, I think it would be pretentious of me to speak for the Irish. Oddly enough, I could add more to the Irish list than the US. None the less, I will only add to the US list. This is by no means all I would add, just what comes to mind quickly. I will add more later.
US list: |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: FRANK MCGRATH Date: 21 Jan 99 - 10:21 PM If there is any bit of Paddy in your blood you must learn:
The Rocks of Bawn The Boys of Barr na Sraide She Moved Through the Fair The Croppy Boy Skibereen Fran |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: alison Date: 21 Jan 99 - 10:31 PM Hi, Well here is my attempt at an Irish list of songs to know, most of them will crop up when you get a group of Irish people together…. And yes I know people will disagree…. And take some out or add others in… please feel free… this is just a starting point. I know some of these aren't strictly Irish… some fall into that only sung when very drunk and with lots of tears pouring down your cheeks category, and some of them aren't what I'd chose to sing… but you are likely to hear them…
A nation once again, Slainte alison |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Don Meixner Date: 21 Jan 99 - 11:36 PM Alison, Thanks for the hook up. Don Bob, I was unaware my list was only suppose to be an American one. I think great songs know no boundries. You'll notice my list also has an Australian song. Alison's list has some Scottish tunes as well. If I thought for one minute that German was a melodic language(*wink*), I'd have some in there from my own, very limited, Austrian ancestory. But, alas, even the tenderest love ballad sound like an invite to an axe catching contest. (Further winks and nudges:-)) I also don't know any. Regards Don |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: katlaughing Date: 22 Jan 99 - 01:46 AM As a "Kathleen" and proud of it, I would just like to say the song always meant going home to Ireland for me, esp. when my dad sang it to me. And, dissillusioned as I might be, it will ever be thus. Thanks Alison for mentioning the Too-a-roo-a-roo-ra (That's An Irish Lullaby). As I leave tomorrow to travel for my mother's final resting, it is good to be reminded of what she sang me to sleep with almost everynight. My sisters and I always cleaned house while listening to show tunes. Anybody think of any, such as: Maria Oklahoma Tomorrow (from Annie) LOTS OF SACCHARIN! Who will buy? from Oliver, as well as several others which I can't remember the names of Did anyone mention Waltzing Matilda, yet? When the caissons go rolling along (Title?) American Pie Streets of Laredo Yellow Submarine Imagine Country Roads This Old Man (nick, knack, paddy-whack song) Little Bunny Foo-Foo Eensy Weensy Spider Summertime House of the Rising Sun Simple Gifts Hey, good looking I'm so lonesome I could cry (Hank Wms.; title?) Don't sit under the apple tree Missouri Waltz w/words Tennessee Waltz w/words Edge of Destruction Some Personal Favorites:Strawberry Roan Zebra Dun Little Joe the Wrangler When the works all done this fall And then, When Johnny Goes Marching off to war Goodbye Old Paint I know there's more; my mind is just kinda numb and blank. This is a great thread! Thanks for the respite. I'll be back next week. kat:-(not much laughing Line breaks <br> added. May your mother rest in peace, Kat. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: katlaughing Date: 22 Jan 99 - 01:48 AM Sorry, I had them all listed down a vertical row. I don't know how they wound up so jumbled. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Rasta Date: 22 Jan 99 - 02:21 AM here s my list perhaps not for everyone --summeer wages--Kansas rain--dont think twice--If I had a ship--london homesick blues--early mornin rain--Mother Country--daydream believer--Rhoddy Mc corley--Armstrong yep nothing like playing all the hits--etc --rastaaaaa-- |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: MudGuard Date: 22 Jan 99 - 02:36 AM The Song for Ireland should be added to the Irish list. To claim the "Silent Night" as part of the american culture is very daring - every Austrian will be out to kill you, Joe!!! AndreasW |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Joe Offer Date: 22 Jan 99 - 06:32 AM Like it or not, Andreas, "Silent Night" is known by most Americans, and it certainly is part of our culture. Many of our ancestors were Europeans, you know. One major problem the U.S. has is that it has forgotten its cultural roots that are not European. I've known "Stille Nacht" in German since I was a kid, and I sing it solo in church every Christmas. Here in California, "Cielito Lindo" should also be on the list, and perhaps "Adelita" and "La Cucaracha" - not to mention "De Colores," which was mentioned above. "Alouette" would be another, especially in the Midwest and Eastern U.S. Perhaps the English version of "Funiculi, Funicula" could be another, but that might be stretching things a bit. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Big Mick Date: 22 Jan 99 - 08:37 AM Kat, Your mother must have been a special woman, to have raised you. You are one of the people whose postings I always look forward to. God be good to her. Mick |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: alison Date: 23 Jan 99 - 01:17 AM Dear Kat, sorry to hear about your mum, our thoughts and prayers are with you. alison |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Barbara Shaw Date: 23 Jan 99 - 10:43 AM Dear Kat, So sorry about your mother. Your post reminded me of three songs I used to sing to my kids when they were babies:
I Gave My Love a Cherry How can we keep it to 50 songs? |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: gargoyle Date: 23 Jan 99 - 01:24 PM 50 Campfire Songs That Everyone Knows 1. All Together Again
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: alison Date: 23 Jan 99 - 07:39 PM hi,
I submit Slainte alison |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: gargoyle Date: 24 Jan 99 - 12:09 AM I concure.....On Top of Spaghetti is a fine candidate for 49.....however, I have never heard of 40K....in my day we were lucky to reach "six miles high and falling fast."
A DT search brings up Mrs. Robinson for under "40,000." Could you post the words???(Sound like Mr. Joe now) |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: catspaw49 Date: 24 Jan 99 - 12:39 AM This seemed like fun, but every time I come back to this thread, I find my list is there somewhere. This time I brought a very short list and most of it was taken. But for once I'm left with 2 that haven't been mentioned. So howzabout "Ash Grove" and "Dixie". catspaw |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Laurel the x-girl scout Date: 28 Jan 99 - 06:49 PM Three of my favorite camp songs are.. 1. Linger 2. Bamboo 3. Small Blue Bottle--- at least that is what the song is about. Laurel |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: alison Date: 28 Jan 99 - 07:54 PM Hi Gargoyle, There is a version in the database, not quite the same and I'm sure we've had this in another thread ages ago. The one I learnt is
He jumped from 40,000 feet without a parachute (X3)
they scraped him off the runway like a lump of strawberry jam... slainte alison |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Laurel Date: 28 Jan 99 - 09:02 PM Don't forget "The Life Of a Voyager"!! Laurel |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: george Henderson NSC Date: 29 Jan 99 - 10:14 AM I used to sing all my kids to sleep with "The Flying Cloud" obtained from the singing of Lou Killen. I don't know whether they dropped off to sleep from boredom or what but it has always been a favourite of mine. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Allan C. Date: 19 Jan 00 - 07:16 AM refresh |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Liz the Squeak Date: 19 Jan 00 - 08:33 AM Well I make that about 437 songs already. Have you noticed how many of these are songs that no one actually writes down and learns, but sort of inherits as a folk memory or acquire by some form of osmosis? I've never sat down to learn 'You are my sunshine', but still, I know it..... We even wrote our own version.
You are my sunshine, my only sunshine, LTS |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: GeorgeH Date: 19 Jan 00 - 08:52 AM Yes, Liz, but how many of those 437 songs would you WISH to know . . . There isn't a single song in Joe's list I wouldn't rather disappeared entirely, even though a number of them are very powerful songs which CAN be performed to great effect. There's no point in promoting something to the status of "cultural essentials" if they're going to be hackneyed (?sp) and cliched in the process. (It doesn't, generally, happen to "Ode to Joy"; why has it happened to "Amazing Grace" in 99% of its performances?) Just my daily ration of sour grapes, folks!! Or can we nominate the defining performance of our cultural essentials? (In which case I nominate Peter Bellamy for Amazing Grace, and upset the USians even further.) G. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Mbo Date: 19 Jan 00 - 10:34 AM Oh Alisom, your list was right on target. I love all those songs (except the fake-Irish ones.) Everyone should know all the songs of the Clancy Brothers Greatest Hits. Then theres my 14 volumes (and counting) on the Best of The Thistle & Shamrock I'm assembling. It has over 300 songs & tunes, personally selected by me, that every Celtic lover should know. No one has mentioned the greatest immigration ballad ever "Paddy's Green Shamrock Shore." My mother absolutely loves this song! I assembled from various sources, an 11-minute version, sure to please anyone who can't get enough of this song. Hmm...I don't think I saw "Wild Mountain Thyme," "When You And I Were Young, Maggie," and "The Road to Dundee." --Mbo |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: paddymac Date: 19 Jan 00 - 10:51 AM "Cassions" was noted above for the american list. I think two other "service songs" should certainly be listed: "Marines' Hymn" and "Anchors Aweigh". |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Grab Date: 19 Jan 00 - 11:27 AM Alison, Off-topic, I know, but in my scout troop the first 2 lines went either Glory, glory what a hell of a way to die x2 or Glory, glory what a hell of a way to die When you're hanging by your braces and you don't know how to fly You usually got both, as some ppl preferred 1 and others preferred the other. Works OK with both anyway. Grab. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Night Owl Date: 19 Jan 00 - 11:41 AM Thanks for this thread, Joe. Adding "Quiet Faith of Man" Bill Staines |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Roger the skiffler Date: 19 Jan 00 - 11:44 AM Joebro, Joebro, is this a penance? It's a great idea except it'll drive me mad & keep me awake at night! I'll not submit a list as most of mine have been mentioned already. At least 50 is a good number, 10 would be impossible to decide! I don't know all the patriotic American anthems and I beg to be excused learning them! RtS |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: MTed Date: 19 Jan 00 - 11:47 AM I couldn't help notice how contrived and patronizing the Music educators list was--and how much it varied from Gargoyle's list, which seems a much more accurate collection of the songs that Americans really do know-- I do have somewhat the same feeling as George, sometimes, that a lot of that stuff that everyone happens to know isn't pleasing to either sing or hear--(I must confess that I also regard the lists of songs that some person or group thinks I should know as being like the bumper stickers that say "Kill your television"--If you want to tell me what to do, I will tell you where to go)-- What would be interesting would be to see a list of the 50 songs that people wished they knew--
P.S. Kat--so sorry to hear about your mother-- |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Easy Rider Date: 19 Jan 00 - 11:47 AM What about "Glory glory hallelujah", from the Civil War? We all learned that, when we were children, and made up nasty verses to it too. You know... "Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord..." or "Mine eyes have seen the glory of the burning of the school..." |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Blackcat2 Date: 19 Jan 00 - 01:21 PM I'd love to see what Skarpi would consider to be the 50 Icelandic songs everyone should know! pax yall |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: JenEllen Date: 19 Jan 00 - 03:31 PM UMMMMMMM...How's about: Mairzy Doats Swinging on a Star Toot,toot, Tootsie When You're Smiling Baby Face Don't Sit Under the Apple Tree Cool Water |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: kendall Date: 19 Jan 00 - 03:45 PM I'm not Irish, but, last Saturday night, I had some scotch in me..does that count? In my not so humble opinion, the Irish list must include Kevin Barry. Kat..my warmest best wishes go with you. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: GUEST,Frank Date: 19 Jan 00 - 03:49 PM How about The City of New Orleans? Or Alice's Restaurant? The above lists are great but I'd have to add those two... Frank |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Martin _Ryan Date: 19 Jan 00 - 05:10 PM George (Henderson): Jeez, George - they were patient children to lie peacefully through the Flying Cloud, alright! Mine used to get "The Greenland Whale Fishery". They slept in bunks at the time and there was a lot of climbing the rigging, swinging from spars, miming telescopes etc. etc. They basically fell asleep through exhaustion! Regards p.s. Sorry about the thread creep, folks. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 19 Jan 00 - 06:26 PM My eyes are getting dizzy skimming through all these lists.
But so far noone seems to have put in Music Hall songs and The Beatles, or George Formby. My Old Man said Follow the Van Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer do. Lily of Laguna. Yellow Submarine. Just a Song at Twilight. I'll Get By with a Little Help from my Friends. I'm Leaning on a Lamp post. And of course, the secret weapon opf all crowds and queues in England, "Why are we waiting?" (to the tune of "Come let us adore him", in case it hasn't made it across the Atlantic).
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: GUEST,MTed Date: 19 Jan 00 - 07:55 PM How about lets just say everyone should know at least fifty songs, and leave it up to them which ones? |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: GUEST,ddw Date: 20 Jan 00 - 12:08 AM I haven't seen any mention of:
Wreck of the Old 97 And that's leaving out a lot of the great "bad man" songs about Jesse Jame, Pretty Boy Floyd, and a host of others. cheers david |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Brendy Date: 20 Jan 00 - 12:42 AM Arthur McBride The Holy Ground The Crack was 90 Uncle John Bright Blue Rose Crazy Dreams The Sun is burning Go Move Shift Fertile Rock As I roved out The Blacksmith Clare to Here Black is the colour Irish ways and Irish laws Dreams of summer Nancy Spain Lonesome Robin Paddy's Lament to the Emerald Isle The Isle of Inísfrí The Tinkerman's Daughter Crusader Almost ev'ry circumstance Only our Rivers Ride On Buddy can you spare a dime The Fields of Athenry Sam Hall The Lakes of Ponthartrain My True Love Clyde's Bonny Banks May you never Mountains of Mourne I Don't Want to Know about Evil Carrickfergus Whiskey in the Jar (only joking) Desperadoes waiting for a Train Tea and Sympathy The Dutchman Heart with no companion Rollin' in my sweet baby's arms Sacco and Vanzetti Margarita Boys from the Co. Armagh (of course) Lament on the passing of the 12 bar blues Boys of Barr na tsráide Takin' Names Gone crazy on you Níl sé 'na lá F.D.R. in Trinidad Whiter shade of Pale Me and Bobby McGee Space Oddity Then we take Berlin Help me make it thru the night Land of the Bottom Line No Woman no Cry Nothin' but the same old story The Ballad of Lucy Jordan Needle and the Damage Done The Weight Ain't Misbehavin' That'll do for a start |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: cousinraven Date: 20 Jan 00 - 01:53 AM Speaking of Camp songs (somewhere in this thread) Someone told me of a song that went something like
Going on a snipe hunt.
clomp...clomp...clomp...clomp
Any help would be apreciated.
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: GeorgeH Date: 20 Jan 00 - 03:54 AM GUEST MTed: I reckon that suggestion is spot-on. G. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: GUEST,honestfrankie Date: 20 Jan 00 - 11:11 AM The suggestions so far are a little biased toward the aging folkie. Not that the ones I am suggesting are like really cool now but they have their place. Johnny B. Goode Secret Agent Man Peter Gunn Purple Haze Whole Lotta Love And I have to acknowledge the good choice that somebody mentioned in Log Driver's Waltz which the group I performed on New Years with voted as the Canadian song of the century |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: GUEST,bet Date: 20 Jan 00 - 12:14 PM Interesting lists of songs, thanks. Boy do I have nmy work cut out for me. Will, I only have the kids thru 4th grade so I'll leave a few for the next music teacher. bet |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: alison Date: 20 Jan 00 - 06:36 PM cousinraven we do it as "going on a bear hunt" one person leads, the others echo each line
we're going on a bear hunt then follows a variety of obstacles to fight your way through with actions
like long wavy grass (swish swish)
ending up with a dark gloomy cave
two big hairy claws then you run back through all the obstacles again until you are safely home.... slainte alison
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 20 Jan 00 - 08:04 PM Well, the original suggestion was that we should try to identify the songs people knew already: "the songs have to be ones that most people know already, songs that are an actual part of the mainstream of our culture - not songs we wish people would know" |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: BK Date: 20 Jan 00 - 10:54 PM A lot of Oklahoman Tom Paxton's & Canadian Gordon Lightfoot's songs would probably qualify as being entrenched in the American musical mind-set, as would some other Canadian writers material, such as "Circle Game." some other examples: Last Thing On My Mind & (Can't Help But Wonder) Where I'm Bound, also Marvellous Toy; Early Mornin' Rain, If You Could Read My MInd... Seems the list could be endless. Cheers, BK |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: TheOldMole Date: 21 Jan 00 - 10:07 PM I've read in a couple of different sources that the most widely known composed song, worldwide, is the Rev. Thomas A. Dorsey's "Take My Hand, Precious Lord." |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: bseed(charleskratz) Date: 22 Jan 00 - 01:12 AM I may have missed some of these while skimming some of the longer lists:
Abilene --seed |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Amos Date: 22 Jan 00 - 05:51 PM Gotta add The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face, as a great American love song. Personally I would LIKE to see everyone know the Unreconstructed Rebel and, on a different theme, O'Reilly's Daughter, and the Gathering of the Clans and Keep on Truckin' just so we could have a common ground to get bawdy on!! A. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: GUEST,Aldus Date: 25 Jan 00 - 11:16 AM I would like to offer A Canadian version, or at least a version with some Canadian songs; Farewell to Nova Scotia The Squid Jiggin Ground Alouetta Un Canadien Errant Out On the Myra Norhtwest Passage Wreck of The Edmund Fitzgerald Brave Wolf Cape Breton Lullaby Four Strong Winds Citadel Hill The Maple Leaf Forever Ise The Bye True Newfoundlanders Fogartys Cove Barretts Privateers She's Called Nova Scotia The Bluenose is Sailin Once Again You Ain't A Nova Scotian If You Don"t Drink Rum Flyin' On Your own There are probably lots more. Also, The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face is not an American song as far as I know. I believer it was written Ewan Mccoll. I could be wrong. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Midchuck Date: 25 Jan 00 - 02:38 PM Canadian songs that have transcended Canadianness and become North American songs: Four Strong Winds Someday Soon You Were on my Mind The Mary Ellen Carter Barrett's Privateers plus any number of Lightfoot's that Tony Rice sort of took over..... Peter (who can't figure out why no bluegrass band has ever done "Canol Road....) |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Amos Date: 25 Jan 00 - 04:25 PM Re: First time Ever I Saw... Humble apologiae; I had it associated with Peggy Seeger in my aged mind. A. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: GUEST,Stupidbodhranplayerwhodoesn'tknowanybetter Date: 25 Jan 00 - 07:31 PM I wholeheartedly agree with Song for Ireland for the Irish list. It should probably have "You're not Irish (you don't know Danny Boy)" as well. A few for the American list would be Christmas in the Trenches; Just a Few More Days (Carter Family); 6 O'Clock News (Robin & Linda Williams); The Lonesome Road Blues, The Car Song(Woody Guthrie), I'm My Own Gran'pa. Kat, Sorry to hear about your loss. That's a really painful experience because there is no end of memories to come flooding back. GIve yourself time to heal LOve, Rich |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: GUEST,_gargoyle Date: 25 Jan 00 - 10:02 PM DEARST ALLAN C>
From: Allan C. refresh
Now why the Amster---, Amster---, did you do this?
For the entire last week....my brain has been doing dejavu, hip-hop, flip-flops
Last year's, and this year's DATES are too close....(my checks are still being initialed with "gg's" for wrong years
I kept ignoring the thread...and then it became TOO MUCH .....TOO INSISTANT it was necessary to "check in"
Boy, this looked familar, been there, done that....WHY WAS THREAD here!!!! (Too much science fiction....too much abasinth wine???)((Good Lordy, I DON'T WANT TO BE CYSIPHUS AND RELIVE ALL MY PAST MISTAKES)) or in this case...."best suggestions."
Out of ALL the previous four year's postings....YOURS ....is the closest to fulfilling all the various "Wyoming Womens' Dreams" (note the "plural" positioning of the apostrophe) and rendering me into a "permanent state of appolexy" and permanently removing my personae from ANY future web prescence. WHAT possessed YOU to post SUCH a "refresher?????"
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: GUEST,ddw Date: 25 Jan 00 - 11:57 PM Amos, If I'm not mistaken, you're still right about it being associated with Peggy Seegar. Wasn't the song written by Ewan McColl as a wedding gift for his bride, Peggy S.? At least that's what I always heard was the origin on the piece..... david |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: GUEST,Leprechaun Date: 26 Jan 00 - 01:21 AM So this thread is a year old and nobody's mentioned Mo Ghile Mear? How about The Ballad of Pancho and Lefty, El Paso, The Beverly Hillbillies. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: reggie miles Date: 26 Jan 00 - 12:47 PM I've always thought "The First Time Ever I Sawed Your Face" would be a perfect musical saw number. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: harpgirl Date: 29 Jun 00 - 02:19 PM refresh |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: SINSULL Date: 29 Jun 00 - 03:45 PM Can it be there is not a single lullaby on these lists?
Hushaby, don't you cry... |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Kim C Date: 29 Jun 00 - 04:01 PM Annie Laurie |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: L R Mole Date: 30 Jun 00 - 10:37 AM The problem is all inside this thread, they said to me; Each song I think about starts up another three; I'll meet you on the porch--this one starts off in D, (There must be) fifty more we haven't thought of. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: GUEST,Colwyn Dane Date: 30 Jun 00 - 08:45 PM Most of the Irving Berlin song book - the guy was a jeanyus - would make the US list: White Xmas Easter Parade God Bless America There's No Business Like Show Business Alexander's Ragtime Band Blue Skies How Deep Is The Ocean? Cheek To Cheek Puttin' On The Ritz Change Partners ecetera, ecetera. Songs titles that feature State or City names: Deep In The Heart Of Texas Oklahoma! California Here I Come Indiana Chicago Moonlight In Vermont The Sidewalks Of New York Hello 'Frisco Hello I Lost My Sugar In Salt Lake City and many more.... Good Readdance, Colwyn.
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Ely Date: 02 Oct 00 - 12:17 AM You asked for it . . . 1)All The Pretty Little Horses; 2)Baby Tree (there's an island way out in the sea . . .); 3)Banks of the Ohio; 4)Blowing in the Wind; 5)Bury Me Not on the Lone Prairie; 6)Captain Kidd; 7)City of New Orleans; 8)Coal Tattoo; 9)Damned old Piney Mountains; 10)Darcy Farrow; 11)Dark as a Dungeon; 12)Don't Think Twice; 13)Early Morning Rain; 14)Few Days; 15)Freight Train; 16)Friendly Beasts; 17)Galveston Flood; 18)Ginny's Gone to Ohio; 19)Goober Peas; 20)Good-Night, Irene; 21)Grandfather's Clock; 22)Hobo's Lullaby; 23)House of the Rising Sun; 24)How Can I Keep From Singing?; 25)I'll Fly Away; 26)I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry; 27)Jamaica Farewell; 28)Jesse James; 29)Joe Hill; 30)Jute Mill Song; 31)Last Thing On My Mind; 32)Leaving On A Jet Plane; 33)Lodi; 34)Lost Highway; 35)Molly and Tenbroucks; 36)1913 Massacre; 37)No More Auction Block; 38)Old Chisholm Trail; 39)Pack Up Your Sorrows; 40)Pallet on the Floor; 41)Railroading on the Great Divide; 42)Rivers of Texas (or whatever you call it); 43)Sammy's Bar; 44)Skye Boat Song; 45)Streets of Laredo; 46)Swing Low, Sweet Chariot; 47)Waltzing Matilda; 48)Waterbound; 49)Who Will Sing For Me?; 50)Will the Circle Be Unbroken? |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: jacko@nz Date: 02 Oct 00 - 12:37 AM there's an impressive list of "should knows" but i think that If everyone could stand up on their own and sing just ten songs that they liked there would be a whole lot more singing going on |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: PoohBear Date: 02 Oct 00 - 01:04 AM Sixteen Tons |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Ely Date: 02 Oct 00 - 01:58 AM Actually, I think I could sing 40 of those 50 and fudge the last 10 if I had to (not that anyone would want me to . . . where's that "can singing be taught" thread?). Not fair of me to call 'em, otherwise. If anyone think's I'm completely obsessive for putting those in alphabetical order, I'm working on compiling a songbook for personal use, so I have a list of them right on the computer. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Hutzul Date: 03 Oct 00 - 12:36 AM All God's Children Got a Place in the Choir La Donna E Mobile |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Metchosin Date: 03 Oct 00 - 02:04 AM esoul, if you start a new thread with your request asking for help along with the title, you may get some assistance. Requests for info in threads on other topics sometimes get missed. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Little Hawk Date: 03 Oct 00 - 02:07 AM Damn good list, Brendy.... Okay. Canadian songs:
Une Canadien Errant (I hope I spelled it right) American Songs:
Blowin' In The Wind British Songs:
Ziggy Stardust German songs:
Lili Marlene Christmas songs:
Hark the Herald Angels And some others:
Whiter Shade of Pale I could go on all night, but it's late and I'm tired. "Adieu, kind friends, adieu..." - LH
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Metchosin Date: 03 Oct 00 - 02:31 AM but of course! There is a Tavern in the Town |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Robby Date: 03 Oct 00 - 10:05 AM After having read through the entire listing of songs in this thread, I was surprised to see that no one had suggested either Rudolph, the Red-Nosed Reindeer or Frosty the Snowman. If I somehow missed them in an earlier, my apologies. Also, if it hasn't already been named for the Irish List, I'd like to include The Old Man. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Burke Date: 03 Oct 00 - 08:54 PM Did anyone notice that the person who revived this thread (ecat) wanted information on He's Got the Whole World in His hands? I used several search engines & didn't find anything other than words. You might want to try a local library & look for books on the history of Negro Spirituals. The subject search you want is Spirituals (Songs) To get more information on Mudcat, you should try starting a new thread with the title of the song in it so it's not buried as it is here. Click here for the "Whole World" Discussion.Thanks. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Airto Date: 04 Oct 00 - 05:05 AM An international list:
Bye Bye Blackbird These are not personal favourites, but everybody in Europe, and presumably North America too, knows at least the melodies to these songs, and they're not too difficult to sing (unlike many listed above, eg Whiter Shade of Pale).
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: GUEST Date: 04 Oct 00 - 07:32 PM Thread is long I browsed Quickly but I didn't see JOHN HENRY on any American list that juswt aint right. also Death letter blues,Delia,trouble in mind, sittin on top of the world, this litle light of mine, shady grove, little sadie,and the walkin blues |
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Subject: Essential songs for kids From: GUEST,Lucius Date: 12 May 02 - 06:19 PM I'm looking for opinions on songs that every schoolkid should know. I know that I've seen at least one thread on this topic. Unfortunately, my supersearches are in vain. If anyone can locate one of the old threads, could they post to it and let this thread die. Thanks a'bunchum. Lucius |
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Subject: RE: Essential songs for kids From: Joe Offer Date: 12 May 02 - 06:51 PM Hi, Lucius - a while back, we had a thread called Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know (click). Take a look. In fact, why don't we continue the discussion in that thread so it's unbroken? -Joe Offer- Now that Lucius has seen my message, I've moved us over to the "50 Songs" thread. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: GUEST,Lucius Date: 13 May 02 - 12:08 AM Thanks Joe, Its bad enough that parents aren't teaching their kids to tie their shoes or say the alphabet, now I have to teach them "Oh Susannah". I'll check this thread to see if there is anything else that they may be missing, then I'm off to reset my cookie. Lucius |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: fat B****rd Date: 13 May 02 - 03:29 AM I don't know if I missed a thread on it but the Guinness survey producing the 100 best songs of all time is quite alarming. Mind you at the same time it gives us hipsters a chance to be really holier than everybuggerelse. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: DMcG Date: 13 May 02 - 03:47 AM Maybe its because I'm British, but there's an alarming number of these I don't know - perhaps I need to go to Summer Camp. I was OK with Joe and Tiger's lists, but when the 'official' list was posted by Sail there were 11 of the 42 I didn't know - or at least recognise by name. I reckon the UK 'Catters need to put together a list of songs "everyone" knows to make the US Catter's feel ignorant :-)
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Joe Offer Date: 13 May 02 - 01:20 PM I'd like to see your list, DMcG; and I'd also like to see lists from England, Scotland, and Australia. If I were compiling such a list, I think I'd pick songs that are a real part of the history and culture of a nation - not just really good songs that an individual thinks should be introduced. I question some on the "official" list of 42 that Sail (click) posted above. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Mary in Kentucky Date: 13 May 02 - 02:00 PM I enjoy seeing lists from people who actually live in the countries I only read about. So many of the songs from other countries that I'm familiar with came from books such as The Book of a Thousand Songs (click here), which was published in the US, lists songs by country and purports to know which songs are common in other countries...go figure. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: SharonA Date: 13 May 02 - 02:33 PM OH! FIFTY songs!! *whew* You scared me, Joe; at first glance I read the thread title as "Filthy Songs Everyone Should Know". Time for me to get new glasses! |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: DMcG Date: 13 May 02 - 03:12 PM I'm not sure I could really do a UK list, but here's some that I think any Northerner would know at least well enough to join in the chorus. I will also leave out things like "Happy Birthday", so I'll stick to 10: 5 Northern, 5 other. I am reminded though of another Alex Glasgow song
He sings the "Blaydon Races" (which he needed to rehearse) So:
2. Keep Your Feet Still, Geordie, Laddie 3. Cushie Butterfield 4. The Lambton Worm 5. Up the Row 6. I'm Shy, Mary Ellen 7. Bicycle Made for Two 8. A Long Way to Tipperary 9. Yellow Submarine 10. The Wheels on the Bus (!) |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Gareth Date: 13 May 02 - 05:00 PM Pure Discrimination against us Welsh !
Lets try 5 Gareth |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Don Firth Date: 13 May 02 - 05:09 PM This is a fascinating exercise! When I compare the lists that have appeared here with a list I have in my head of songs that were considered "essential repertoire" for a singer of folk songs when I first started (early Fifties), I am amazed at some of the songs that are not here! There seems to be a scarcity of Child ballads, for example. Two of the most popular, that practically everyone, including non-singers knew, were Barbara Allen and Lord Randal. Of course, our repertoires were largely shaped by what books and records were available at the time. But I'm still amazed at some of the songs that no longer seem to make the cut. I'll be busy for the next day or two, but I'll think about this, make a list, and be back. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: GUEST,Al Date: 14 May 02 - 02:24 AM When the saints go marching in |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: DMcG Date: 14 May 02 - 07:27 AM The Child Ballad point is an interesting one. I deliberately excluded them because I thought I would go through the set separately and see which ones I reckon are still very widely known. I agree that Barbara Allan and and Lord Randall are still up there in the UK, as is The Raggle-Taggle Gypsy. The Cherry Tree Carol does well at Christmas and many people know, but few love, "Blow Away the Morning Dew" because it was a school-standard. John of Hazeldean (or more likely Jock) probably finishes the set that 90%+ of UK people know. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: DMcG Date: 16 May 02 - 03:41 AM refresh to overcome the DayOut (so named for all John Wyndham fans) and to see if the US would have any other Child Ballads as the common set. As before, we are talking about songs everyone knows, rather than us addicts. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: GUEST,Bill Kennedy Date: 16 May 02 - 09:53 AM many of these mentions would be on my list of songs consigned to the dung heap of history, NEVER EVER to be sung especcially Puff the Magic Dragon, useless, (but that is a whole other thread) Yellow Submarine! Please! as if! a FEW decent ones though on the list. On idea might be for everyone to scroll through the DT alphabetically and tick off the songs 1, they know, 2, they sing, 3, they think everyone should sing. Not that many of the lot, I should think. but one song that everyone SHOULD know AND sing, is the Maori Farewell Song, 'Now is the Hour' words & music here: http://members.tripod.com/NZFolkie/poatarau/ |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: DMcG Date: 16 May 02 - 10:10 AM The thing about "Yellow Submarine" is that it is a song that everyone - five years and up - actually does seem to know. As such, it has a value in social situations that songs I would think of as better, such as "Prince Heathen", cannot provide. Take any coach outing and start singing Yellow Submarine and everyone will join in. Try that with most of the music I love and you'll be doing a solo. I would not advocate teaching people people to SING Yellow Submarine, but I would certainly be happy use it to teach simple rhythms and basic melodies. If kindergarten kids can them go back home and play the tune and have people recognise it, then that's great and makes it well worth a place on my list! |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: 53 Date: 16 May 02 - 10:31 AM My Girl, Cotton Fields, Rocky Top, Double shot, just to name a few more. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: GUEST,Bugsy @ Work Date: 16 May 02 - 11:13 AM Thank you very much DMcG! I'm not a guest, by the way, I'm just on the work computer. Forgot to put in the old nickname. Whoops! CHeers Bugsy |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: GUEST,Sara Jane Date: 08 Mar 08 - 10:57 PM I agree with many of the songs mentioned, most of which are very common. But there are some excellent historical songs that very clearly express pivital points in history I think should be taught more than they are. Off the top of my head these include: Blacksmith of Brandywine (American Revolution) March on Fort Sackville (Seige against a French fort in Indiana during French & Indian War) Marching to Georga (Civil War song) Lorena (Civil war Song) Battle of Shilo Hill (Song imortalizing one of the Bloodiest battles of the civil war. Bread and Roses (Union Song) Solidaridy Forever (Union Song) Byker Hill (Mining Song) Blantyre Explosion (Song about a Mining Disaster) Drill ye Tarrers Drill (Mining Song) |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Richard Bridge Date: 09 Mar 08 - 07:52 AM Hmm. Very few English songs that anyone ought to know it seems. Surely almost all English know at least part of "My old man (said follow the van)" and "Any Old Iron" and probably a few bits of "Sam Hall". "Leaving of Liverpool" is English too please. And of course "the Wild Rover". "Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner". Perhaps a few snatches of "The Foggy foggy Dew" "Dirty Old Town" "Liverpool Lullaby" (didn't Cilla Black record it?) "A mother was washing her Baby one night" (recorded by Cream) "A long way to Tipperary" (Irish, but British Army marching song) "Colonel Bogey" "Pack up your troubles" Surprisingly, "Men of Harlech" is not on the Welsh list. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Stringsinger Date: 09 Mar 08 - 01:52 PM OK, here's where I stand. Dick is right in that every song mentioned here would not be good in a group setting but there are many that would. I'm not sure about the selections offered that everyone should know these. I believe that everyone should know folk songs that contain good choruses. A good chorus is an entry level for people wanting to learn the whole song. I'm surprised that Pete Seeger's repitiore was not mentioned here. He has done more to get folks to sing folk songs than almost anyone. I had a thread sometime back asking folks to suggest songs that had good singable choruses. I didn't get any responses. I am collecting these songs now and have an extensive list. I'm not sure I want to hear many people sing "My Funny Valentine". It would be a nightmare of epic proportions particularly played with five-string banjo accompaniment. "Blue Skies" might work though. This is a folk music site so I had hoped that there would be more folk songs mentioned than the standard pop songs of the Twenties, Thirties etc. Songs like "Nine Pound Hammer", "This Land is Your Land", variations of "Lowlands Low" (which has a great chorus), "Beans, Bacon and Gravy".....in other words, songs that have a tradition and history and not pop necessarily. There are so many folk songs that people ought to know reflecting their respective traditions, cultures and histories that would be more useful than the commercial music industry output. Variations for example of "The Wind and The Rain"...Horton Barker's "Two Sisters" which has the great chorus of "Bow and Balance to Me", some of the American cowboy songs such as "Strawberry Roan", "Old Chisholm Trail" and others like that. How about some of the traditional Appalachian songs that have great choruses, "Jubilee", "Goin' Down to Cairo", even the standard "Cindy" and "Old Joe Clark". Play Party Songs, Spirituals, In the Irish trad,there are quite a few mentioned above. "Wild Mountain Thyme" or "Paddy's Green Shores" "I'll Tell Me Ma" but what about the beautiful "Down In The Valley"? ("Connemara Cradle Song") In short, get away from the standard pop fare of any of the years and concentrate on all the wonderful folk songs that are not being sung today that people should know. Frank Hamilton |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: GUEST Date: 10 Mar 08 - 09:01 AM Hi Richard I'd inlclude those as well - done most of them at some time or another. And of course you can always do for the price of one, and get half the audience singing 'Tipperary' whilst the other half sing 'Pack Up Your Troubles' Which lyrics are you suggesting for Co. Bogey? Bernard |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: skarpi Date: 10 Mar 08 - 09:09 AM well all ,in what country ? you r not going sing " god bless america " or " God bless USA " in Europe or here in Iceland , I dont know about England , and most of the at least those 42 songs are from US only few Irish ., so I say in what country I can easy play 50 songs from Iceland , but only few people would know those songs if I would sing them here . but good effort go on , its nice to see what people are doin ATB Skarpi Iceland |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: GUEST,Sammy Rich Date: 10 Mar 08 - 10:28 AM Well, this has been a good exercise. I found the more I worked on my list the more painfully aware that now I should go and learn these 50 songs myself. At the least, this is what I consider are a fairly well rounded, excluding much of the european, mid-east, far east, south american, central american and anywhere else but here in the good ole USA. Sorry world, we have adopted many of your good songs and forgotten the rest. My list follows. Eatin Goober Peas When Johnny Comes Marching Home Again Elephant Fair, Bessie Jones Juba, Bessie Jones Where are you Going, My Pretty Little Miss? Jean Ritchie Shady Grove, almost anyone's version Froggie Went a Courtin, Wooing, etc., at least two versions Mary Mack, the British version Coonshine, Bessie Jones The Beggarman, Clancy Brothers Sittin' on the dock of the Bay, Otis St. James Infirmary, both in a minor and a major key Minnie the Moocher, Cab Callaway Motherless Children What a Day for a Daydream, John Sebastian In the Pines, In the Pines African American Spirituals 1 of 5 - you pick em African American Spirituals 2 of 5 - you pick em African American Spirituals 3 of 5 - you pick em African American Spirituals 4 of 5 - you pick em African American Spirituals 5 of 5 - you pick em Black Jack Davie Blues Stay Away from Me, Doc Precious Lord, Doc's version Keep on the Sunny Side Life Is Like a Mountain Railroad Star in the East (sacred harp song) Almeeda Riddle Beryuzoviye Kalyechke, Russian Gypsy, Theodore Bikel Rock-a-bye Baby Wondrous Love Wayfarin' Stranger Hame afore the gale, Murray Shoolbraid The Purple People Eater The Drunken Sailor Draw Me a Bucket of Water, Bessie Jones Ring a round the Rosie Home, Home on the Range America the Beautiful Hatikvoh Virgin Mary, Joan Baez As I Went Down in the Valley to Pray, Doc The Parting Glass Auld Lang Syne Broom o'er the Cowdenknowes I Wished I was a Rock. Alex Campbell Eileen Aroon All Along the Watchtower Oh Death, Dock Boggs Hush Little Baby All the Pretty Little Horses |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: The Mole Catcher's Apprentice (inactive) Date: 10 Mar 08 - 12:03 PM "NEVER EVER to be sung especcially Puff the Magic Dragon, useless" personally I'll sing Puff the Magic Dragon just as often as my youngest wants to hear it. Maori farewell songs are not a big part of my cultural background, so forgive if I give them a miss. Charlotte (whistle while you work) |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: topical tom Date: 10 Mar 08 - 01:27 PM "Peace Will Come" by Tom Paxton.It's on this site |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: topical tom Date: 10 Mar 08 - 01:40 PM Another full version albeit not done by Tom Paxton. It's here. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: dulcimerman Date: 15 Aug 08 - 07:59 AM Does any one have the lyrics for Hog Calling Time. the one I am looking for starts out as best I can remember, When its hog calling time in the valley I'll be calling my darling to you. dulcimerman |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 15 Aug 08 - 11:46 AM Are you sure it's a song, dulcimerman? That sounds like one of those joke titles for an imaginary country song. Somebody commented somewhere above that these lists are slanted toward 'the old folkie.' Actually, I think they contain older songs because very few current songs have a melody. I have tried to define melody, and I've decided that melody is the mysterious characteristic that makes a set of notes easy to remember. Thus, songs with a good melody end up on lists of songs to teach other people. I appreciate the effort people have gone to in making these lists. I have perused them and found 15 tunes to try out for my mtn dulcimer repertoire. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Big Al Whittle Date: 15 Aug 08 - 04:26 PM I always liked the Jolson songbook particularly You made me love you By By Blackbird April Showers fred Astaire had some good hits as well Isn't this a lovely day to be caught in the rain the Way you look tonight and two songs from the Roaring Twenties Movie It had to be you I'm just wild about Harry |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: dulcimerman Date: 15 Aug 08 - 08:59 PM Yes When its hog calling time in the valley is a song. My parents used to have a 78 record. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 16 Aug 08 - 12:58 PM Okay. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: GUEST,Anna-wa Date: 16 Oct 08 - 09:13 PM 1. Polly Wolly Doodle 2. Rock-A My Soul 3. The National Anthem And oh too many to name. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 17 Oct 08 - 03:50 PM Rock-a my soul! Thanks. You have given me an idea for the offertory song this Sunday. Rock-a my Soul followed by Swing Low, Sweet Chariot. It will contrast the innocent acceptance of childhood (esp. Girl Scouts) with the peaceful countenancing of death. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 17 Oct 08 - 04:01 PM When this thread comes up, I scan it for new songs to play on the dulcimer. The idea of 'fifty songs everyone should know' can be interpreted two ways. One way is 50 songs that are very well known, so that the person who doesn't know them is left out. This would explain such titles as Rudolf the Red-nosed Reindeer and Yellow Submarine. The other definition would be 50 songs everyone should know because they are of high quality or convey something worth thinking about. I'm not complaining or advocating, just observing. ========= In case anybody else is looking for tunes to play, I am adding my list of songs for the dulcimer, along with the starting note. Songs for dulcimer in D-A-A tuning Across the wide Missouri/ Shenandoah---------- A Adieu, Madras A All creatures of our God and king----------------- D All my trials (blues) A All through the night--------------------------------- D Annie Laurie F# Aran boat song B As we march-ed down to Fenario......................D Ascot gavotte (key of A) C# Ash grove A Auld lang syne -------------------------------------- A Aura Lee ........................................................ A Banks of the sweet primroses D Barcarolle=========================== F# Beautiful savior--------------------------------------- D Believe me if all these endearing young charms F# Bendemeer's stream--------------------------------- A Bicycle built for two=================== hi A Blest are they A Blind Mary..........................................E, key of A Braw lads o' Galla water C# Bridget O'Malley ===================A (6.5) Bright morning stars are shining F# or C# Camptown races...............................................E Can ye sew cushions =================== F# Cockles and mussels A Colorado trail (blues) .................................... C# Come all ye pretty maidens, wherever ========D Come Christians, for to sing------------------------ D Come, lord, come lord Jesus (maranatha) F# Come ye faithful, raise the strain D Come ye shepherds (Infant lowly)...................A lo Country gardens (key of A) hi A Courante - Praetorius =================== A Day now is done, there's a star..west D Deck the hall................................................ hi A Deryn pur A hi Dillon Bay............................................. C# (6.5) Dona nobis pacem D Down by the Riverside....................................F# Down by the sally gardens---------------------------D Down in the valley A Drink to me only with thine eyes........................C# Country gardens.............................................A hi Fanny Power A Farewell to Ballymony -------------------------------E Farewell to Tarawathie .D First Noel =======================F# or C# Flow gently, sweet Afton--------------------------- A For the beauty of the earth D Galway Bay------------------------------------------ E Go tell aunt Rhodie F# God of day and God of Darkness D Grandfather's clock A Guantanamera ======================== D Happy Farmer A Happy Wanderer -------------------------E, key of A He flies thru the air with the greatest of ease........ He is an Englishman G He shall feed his flock ================ A hi Here I am, lord--------------------------------------- D Hector the hero.............................................A lo Hi lili, hi lili hi lo A lo Holly and the Ivy D Holy God, we praise thy name----------- ---------D Holy, holy, holy D Holy manna..................................................A lo How brightly beams the morning star------------- D Huna blentyn....................................................A I can't help falling in love with you D I dream of Jeanie (uses G#) ============== B I gave my love a cherry A I know where I'm going----------------------------- D I see the moon A In the bleak midwinter......................................F# In Thee is gladness A hi Irish washerwoman A hi I've got sixpence...............................................F# Jacob's ladder ....................................... F# or C# Jeannie with the lt brown hair B John, must you lend...horse (key of A) E Kelvingrove ========================== D Kerry Dancing King of love my shepherd is------------------------ D Kum by Yah D or A Lavender's blue------------------------------- A hi Leaving of Liverpool D Lo how a rose e'er blooming =============A hi Loch Lomond----------------------------------------- D Long, long ago D Lord Haddo's favorite------------------------------ E Lord of all hopefulness/be thou my vision D Lord, you have come F# Merry Widow Waltz-------------------------------- A Minuet by Paderewsky hi A Mingulay boat song ......................................... A Minuet in "G" - Bach hi A Month of January C# Morning has broken D or A My gal Sal (blues) ? Ned of the hill D Never love thee more-------------------------------A Now is the month of maying............................. D O come, little children A hi Oh, Susannah....................................................D Of the Father's love begotten ============== D Old Black Joe, key of A--------------------------- A O sacred head, surrounded, key of A C# On the bridge of Avignon==================D On top of Old Smokey..................................... A Only a shadow, key of A A Pack up your sorrows---------------------------- F# Paper of pins (make up B line) A Peace in the valley (blues) ============= A Polly-wolly doodle D Plaisir d'amour (make up variations) A Praise to the Lord------------------------------------ D Preacher went down (blues) A Que sera, sera ............................................... D Red river valley A River (Bill Staines) D Roses from the south....................................... A Salve regina, key of A A Seeman, lass das Traumen... E Seek ye first F# Shepherd's wife's waltz A lo Shores of Ponchatrain------------------------------- A Sidewalks of New York hi A Since I met you, baby (blues)............................C# Smile a while F# Snowy-breasted pearl ================= A hi Songs of thankfulness & praise A hi Spring has now unwrapped the flowers D Stars of the summer night--------------------------- A Steal away D Stewball----------------------------------------------- A Table of plenty F# or C# Tell me why A Tennessee Waltz-------------------------------------A 10th Batn Highland Light inf'try c'ing the Rhine D Think on me ========================= F# This joyful Eastertide A Ting, ting, ting--------------------------------------- F# 'Tis pretty to be in Ballinderry D There's a wideness in God's mercy.....................D Trumpet voluntary D Water is wide----------------------------------------- A Way dwn upn the Suwannee Rivr, key of A C#, We gather together E (6.5) When cockleshells (waly, waly) ========== A hi When I fall in love, it will be forever ................ A When you and I were young, Maggie A hi While strolling in the park one day=========== Wildwood flower C# key of A but uses a G Who's gonna hold her hand?------------------------ A Wild mountain thyme With someone like you, a pal good and true A Wreck of the sloop John B ================A Yellow bird ...................................................hi A Songs in D-A-G tuning Are you sleepin', Maggie? ? Banks and braes of Bonnie Doon A 1st Black is the color of my true love's hair------E 5th Blow the candle out A 1st Bonnie light horseman A 1st (6.5) Can't help but wonder where I'm bound--- E 5th Cantigas (work on cantigas) Come all you pretty maidens, wherever you be C 3rd Come you merry lads & lasses (madrigal).. D 4th Darlin' Corey-------------------------------------G 0 Dissembling love A 1st Dove she is a pretty bird ---------------- E 5th (6.5) Dowie dens of Yarrow=============== A 1st Drunken sailor.................................. E 5th (6.5) Elm tree branches----------------------------- C 3rd Froggie went a-courting------------------------A 1st Gather us in A 1st (6.5) play 2nd phrase on parallel A & D strings God rest ye merry, gentlemen ................... A 1st The great silkie D 4th Gwcw fach================== E 5th (6.5) Here I sit on Buttermilk hill............. F 6th I got a mule and her name is Sal A 1st If you miss the train I'm on C 3rd Jesus walked the lonesome valley ======= G 0 Johnny, I hardly knew you A 1st Let all mortal flesh keep silence A 1st Man of constant sorrow.......................... E 5th Masters in this hall A 1st Motherless child ================== E 5th My lord, what a morning--------------- F (6/5) Now the green blade rises (Noel nouvelet)A 1st Nyth a gog E 4th O come, o come, Emmanuel ................. A 1st Old Chisholm trail----------------------------A 1st Row your boat to Jesus' side========= D 4th Scarborough Fair A 1st (6.5) Scheherazade themes Singers, sing E 5th Star of the County Down-------------------C 3rd Summertime Porgy & Bess ====== A hi 8th Sweet the evening air of May................. A 1st Sweet Willie and Lady Margot E 5th Swing low, sweet chariot----------- F# 6 1/2 Turn ye to me---------------------------------A 1st Two young brothers marched away D 4th Wayfaring stranger--------------------------A 1st Wild Rover ==================== E 5th |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: Rapparee Date: 17 Oct 08 - 04:13 PM One is "Yankee Doodle" and the other 49 are not. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: GUEST,John Cloud Date: 22 Nov 08 - 04:12 PM This a wonderful topic. Too many forget the importance of context. I hope you will keep this dialogue going. |
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Subject: RE: Fifty Songs Everyone Should Know From: GUEST,Mollie Date: 04 Aug 10 - 07:50 PM I believe this list was created by the Music Educators National Conference (MENC). Here is a link about it: http://www.blackroseacoustic.org/encore/great-songs.htm Enjoy! Mollie
In 1996 the National Association for Music Education (MENC) introduced their list 43 Great Songs Every American Should Know. Many people complained that their favorite songs were left off the first list. Some complained so vocally that their selections were added! "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" joined the 1996 list after the MENC received thousands of letters and complaints from members of the Baseball Hall of Fame. In 2000, they released a second list, 45 Great Songs. Is your favorite song on either list? Are there songs that you think absolutely must be added? I was pleasantly surprised to see songs containing a message of faith were included in the lists. I personally believe that attempts to make schools politically correct and religiously neutral have resulted in the loss of much of the heart and spirit of public educational music programs. Compiled from the MENC web page, www.menc.org.
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