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BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?

The Fooles Troupe 22 Jan 06 - 05:59 PM
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GUEST,Olive 22 Jan 06 - 04:53 PM
Lady Hillary 21 Jan 06 - 08:39 PM
MartinRyan 21 Jan 06 - 02:51 PM
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GUEST,EBarnacle at a meeting in Albany 20 Jan 06 - 10:23 PM
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GUEST,Dangerous Dan 20 Jan 06 - 12:15 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 05:59 PM

MartinRyan

recently there has been Oz media fuss about supermarkets selling vegetables over a year old...

their 'manufacturer' didn't put 'use by dates' on them you see...

One more way in which Man has outdone his Maker...


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: robomatic
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 04:58 PM

I think this is the longest thread I've started without diving in to give some support. In any case, I suspected that the bottle I found in my company's larder was some I purchased in mid-1999 and left there and no one used it after. I've started cooking with it with no harm and no bad taste, so I consider it 'aged'.
Thanks for the edifying advice and expansion on some collateral themes.

As Robin Williams once said, (as Popeye) "Ya don't have to be a physikisk to know what matters!"


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: GUEST,Olive
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 04:53 PM

I'll tell ya what popeye's got that you and Bluto don't, Dan. His johnny is shaped like his forearm. After years of being his girlfriend, you boys couldn't even touch the sides any more. Enough said.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: Lady Hillary
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 08:39 PM

Honey is bacteriostatic. If it is sealed, is not infected at the time of sealing and is not exposed, there is no reason it should not be good indefinitely.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: MartinRyan
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 02:51 PM

On sell-by dates: one of the great bargains in Irish supermarkets is to pounce on serious cheese being sold off cheaply because it's reached its "sell-by date". Usually, the poor misfortunate hasn't even thawed out, never mind gone off....

Regards

p.s Oh Yes! On oil: smell it - if you're still not sure, it's fine!


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Jan 06 - 10:49 PM

Eat the tuna




folks that do not capitalize proper nouns deserve to die.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: GUEST,EBarnacle at a meeting in Albany
Date: 20 Jan 06 - 10:23 PM

I have found that even California garlic will grow in the Northeast if you take it in before the weather goes below 40 F at night. I keep it in the same box as my scallions and basil.

Try Monini olive oil. The first time I tried it was at a restaurant as a bread dip. I asked the chef and he told me the brand. Very fruity and delicate.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: woodsie
Date: 20 Jan 06 - 09:57 PM

I found 3 tins of tuna in my larder. It looks like a sell by date on the bottom 2002 or something - I think they're about 5 years old. They're tuna in brine - should I chuck, or feed to cat?

Mind you I don't have a cat!


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: Allan S
Date: 20 Jan 06 - 02:52 PM

7 days and 7 nights depending on the holliday


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: GUEST,Dangerous Dan
Date: 20 Jan 06 - 12:15 AM

Ms Oyl's abilities are legendary. Unfortunately she will not do anyone except that pint-sized sailor, Popeye. I've had my eye on her for years, but not even a kiss! What has that ugly little swab got that I don't? He disappears into her place for days at a time, only emerging now and then to buy another can of spinach. I hate Popeye!


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 19 Jan 06 - 11:09 PM

six months in a dark cupboad

four months in the refrigerator (cooling adds moisture, which quickly accelerates rancidity.)

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

all hope is not lost - rancid, poor, tainted olive-oil burns with a smokeless, oderless, white-toned, flame....multiple lamps are readily available...and "esential oil" may be added if you like to "stink-o-fy" a natural environment.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Jan 06 - 10:24 PM

Ask Pop-eye...


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: Raptor
Date: 19 Jan 06 - 10:21 PM

"Extra Virgin MY Ass" -Sweet-Pea


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 19 Jan 06 - 09:02 PM

I had a squeezy bottle of Aldi tomato sauce in my camping box, that I bought in 1992.

I only used it when camping, & it lasted until 2004 when my then girlfiend forced me to throw it away- even though it wasn't all used up!!


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: GUEST,Jos
Date: 19 Jan 06 - 07:54 AM

I read somewhere they found some ancient honey in good condition.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Jan 06 - 07:23 AM

Didn't they find some ancient olive oil in amphorae?


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Jan 06 - 11:06 AM

My garlic didn't come up anywhere in the yard this year. I hope some of it down there survives the drought. We have the hard-neck variety growing wild around here.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: bobad
Date: 18 Jan 06 - 09:28 AM

You won't regret it Topsie the taste is far superior to the imported stuff that is sold in grocery stores. If you get your seed stock from local growers you will be assured that the variety is suitable to your growing zone.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: GUEST, Topsie
Date: 18 Jan 06 - 07:40 AM

Thanks, bobad. I might have a go at growing some.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: bobad
Date: 17 Jan 06 - 02:34 PM

Topsie

The stalk will eventually flower and produce seed in the form of bulbils, which are mini garlic bulbs. This is cut off in order for the plant to put more of it's growth into the bulbs, resulting in bigger heads and increased yields. The cloves from the resulting heads is what are re-planted in the fall to overwinter and emerge in the spring as new plants starting the cycle all over again.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: GUEST,J. Wellington Wimpy
Date: 17 Jan 06 - 01:56 PM

More importantly, how long does a good hamburger last?

Not long, in my experience.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: GUEST, Topsie
Date: 17 Jan 06 - 01:00 PM

Is cutting the stalk purely for the purpose of eating it, or does it improve the plant's production of garlic cloves to over-winter?


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: bobad
Date: 17 Jan 06 - 11:36 AM

Ah! a topic close to my taste buds, olive oil and garlic.

As a grower of garlic I am constantly on the look out for ways to use it in food preparation. One of the simpler ways we make garlic bread is to spread olive oil (extra virgin) onto a longitudinally sliced whole wheat baguette which is placed under the broiler until browned then rubbed with a clove of garlic and sliced into 2 inch chunks.

In the summer as the garlic (hard-neck or rocambole type) is growing it sends up a stalk called a scape, this we pick when it is about 6 inches long, chop up in a food processor and mix with olive oil. We store this "garlic butter" in the freezer in 6 oz. containers which we then use by spreading onto bread and broiling. The "butter" will remain solid and spreadable in the refrigerator.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Jan 06 - 11:24 AM

Well, unless we change our habits the olive wells will soon be dry! Experts estimate that there is only enough left in the wells for another ten to twenty years and then we run out. Here are some recommendations for extending the length of the world's olive wells:

1. When you order a martini, ask for it with a twist or an onion.
2. Never order olives on a pizza.
3. If you must use olives, use only those that are fully ripe. To do otherwise is to use those that will create the next generation of olives.
4. Share your olive with someone with similar tastes.
5. You don't need to eat the expensive kalamatas. They do nothing to enhance your enjoyment and simply cost more.
6. Avoid "jack rabbit" olive usage.
7. Plan your olives: if you're going to squeeze some oil, make pizza that day too.

Share these tips with others. Let's leave some olives for the future!


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: Emma B
Date: 17 Jan 06 - 11:10 AM

Ah EBarnacle you obvioulsy recognize an olive oil and garlic lover, maybe we should start another thread on that inspired combination - Romesco Sauce for starters?

Meanwhile may I repeat a previous post about the wonderful olive oil I discovered in a local supermarket - Cobram Estate, Murray Valley, early harvest, first cold pressing - my favourite oil at the moment; unlikely to remain around for very long.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: EBarnacle
Date: 17 Jan 06 - 10:53 AM

Emma, Clean garlic cloves and put them in the oven for 30 minutes at 300 degrees, F. Spread the warm cloves on dry, toasted bread and drizzle your best oil on the spread bread. Heavenly!


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: GUEST, Topsie
Date: 16 Jan 06 - 04:07 PM

Having watched TV chefs removing the juice and tomato seeds and just using the flesh, I was amused to see Catalans using the juice and seeds as described and throwing out most of the flesh with the skin. (I usually use everything except the little tough bit by the stalk.)


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: Emma B
Date: 16 Jan 06 - 01:08 PM

ooops! - I should have said of course 12 fluid ounces of olive oil !


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: Emma B
Date: 16 Jan 06 - 01:06 PM

Pan amb Tomaquet - a favourite anywhere Micca

Toast bread on both sides. Vigourously rub garlic, cut side down, on the warm toasted bread. Cupping a tomato half in your palm, rub 2 pieces of bread with it; squeeze tomato so that not only the juice and seeds ooze into the bread but also some pulp. Only the skin should be left.
Drizzle the olive oil over and sprinkle with salt and pepper to taste. Serve warm - great for summer festival camping!

and while we're in the area........
ALLIOLI :-

Using a mortar and pestle blend one and a half tablespoons of finely chopped or minced garlic with an egg. mix 12 fluid ounces with one tablespoon of fresh lemon juice and add slowly blending continuously. Add salt and pepper to taste and keep cool preferably overnight to allow flavours to mingle and mellow out

You'll never want shop bought mayonnaise again


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: Micca
Date: 16 Jan 06 - 12:08 PM

Take a slice of good Bread (NOT shop sliced but REAL Rough Rustic)white is fine, drizzle some Extra Virgin Olive Oil on and take a large tomato and smear the flesh over the slice on top of the OOed bread. then lay some slices of Serrano (or other air dried) ham on the surface to cover the slice and eat and enjoy, this is a Catalan Breakfast (or snack) and is WONDERFUL!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Jan 06 - 10:21 AM

Which advice did you consider misguided, Skipjack?


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 16 Jan 06 - 09:32 AM

Did Robomatic die from this misguided advice?


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 13 Jan 06 - 04:07 PM

A couple of years ago in New York City I stumbled into a shop in Greenwich Village that sold nothing but Olive Oil. Pretty interesting, but very expensive.

I gave my answer based on the initial question that gave us the information that the bottle had been opened and neglected for years. A sealed container would last much longer. I think we read into the question the information that the oil is in the hands of someone who doesn't have a clue about how to store it, so it probably is rancid. (Sorry if this casts aspersions on your good character, robomatic!)

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: GUEST,Popeye
Date: 12 Jan 06 - 05:30 PM

Brutus, ya scurvy swab, I smacked ya down the last time we met, and I will smacks ya down again the next time, ya scabby blowhard! You used ta be called "Bluto" a long time ago, and then ya changed yer name outta SHAME and HUMILSKIATION for all the times I beat ya to a pulp. Yer nothin' but a used-up gas bag, Brutus/Bluto or whatever yer name really is. I could beat ya with one arm in a cast, and not even start to work up a sweat. Olive is my gal, and she ain't nobody else's, and she AIN'T fakin' it.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: open mike
Date: 12 Jan 06 - 05:09 PM

well, as a person who lives in California's mediterranean climate and olive oil production area, i have some insight on this. I helped to press over 500 gallons of oil with Carlo Giovannonni in 1978 and Carlo
had kept a pint of oil from each batch he has pressed for nearly 50 yrs. They all still tasted great!The main culprit in breaking down oil is LIGHT and Oxygen, not necessarily heat. If it has been kept in a dark place and sealed from air it is most likely as good as ever. Of course a cool or low temp also helps. We always packaged our product
in sealed metal tins...and customers were so lucky to get it from us at $10 a gallon! (those were the days...) the plant where it was processed was a wonderful place with hydraulic presses, a huge "bull wheel" that
crushed the mash for the second pressing, hoppers and settlinig tanks,
pipes and pumps...it was great! it had a steam cleaning pressure washing water heater that was powered by olive pumice./..the pits and skins that were left over after the oil had been pressed out...it was
such an efficient set up. we sold the left over pumice mash to an olive oil plant across town that extracted with chemicals...like dry cleaning fluid...woe be to those who got oil that was obtained by that method. hexane..yum yum...
always insist on virgin, cold pressed oil!!
here is a local producer that is my main source now..
http://www.tehamagold.com/
some presses are now putting fresh citrus in the presses
with the olives and coming out with lemin and orange
flavored oils...great for dipping, and sauces, but
probably not such great keepers for long term storage.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: M.Ted
Date: 12 Jan 06 - 04:08 PM

I am pretty sure you are wrong about that, Brutus--last time I looked, both were still intact, prosperous, and pumping out olive oil to any and all takers.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: GUEST,brutus
Date: 12 Jan 06 - 04:03 PM

Sure mr. Ted, look at Greece and Rome. They are nothing but a pile of old ruins!


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: M.Ted
Date: 12 Jan 06 - 04:02 PM

I'm with folks who think you are a cheap bugger for even trying to use it--

Go buy a really good bottle of Extra Virgin Olive Oil, the green stuff, and pour some on a plate--then get a baguette or some Italian bread, it can even be stale, tear off some pieces and dip them in the oil, and eat them.   That, and maybe a little wine, is all you need. Witness the longevity of Greece and Rome--


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: GUEST,brutus
Date: 12 Jan 06 - 04:01 PM

Olive Oyle tolds me she fakes it with ya spinach boy.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 12 Jan 06 - 03:54 PM

Oh George, Greek olive oil my favourite! It is so nice I can even use the stuff from Kalamata.
Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 12 Jan 06 - 03:33 PM

It's safe, is my guess, unless it has been stored in too warm a place. Olive oil can go rancid over time - and you'd know it as soon as you tasted it, if it had. But kept in a cool place, it can last for years.

At Christmas 1999 I was sent four 25-kg cans of oil by a friend who has a couple of hundred olive trees. They travelled with me from Greece to the UK in 2000, then from one address to another in the UK in 2003. I took one to a friend in Scotland. They have been stored in the garage, in the shed, out in the rain (they are hermetically sealed with wax). I have about 1/3 of a can left, and it's still OK.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: Folkiedave
Date: 12 Jan 06 - 03:23 PM

I can never keep olive oil that long!! How do you do it?

Dave


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Jan 06 - 03:17 PM

I used to buy oil of various sorts in large bottles at the Warehouse stores (like Sam's) thinking I was saving money, but then when the oil went rancid I had to throw out enough that there was no savings at all, and a waste of what had at one time been perfectly good oil. I use mostly olive oil, and find that buying a liter or two at a time stays good until the bottle is finished.

You deserve better than to suffer through using rancid oil just to save the money. It won't kill you, but I can't imagine getting any pleasure from using it.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 Jan 06 - 03:10 PM

I've never liked it raw. But I'd never use any other kind of fat for frying.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: GUEST,Popeye (one more time)
Date: 12 Jan 06 - 01:25 PM

I thought I'd gives a few more details. Olive is one hell of a woman. She lasts longer than any other woman I has been with, and that's sayin' a mouthful! I yam a sailor and I knows women. Sailors meeta a lotta women. When I arrives back from a long sea voyage I needs a woman like a starvin' hound dog needs a meal. I goes straight over to see Olive, armed with a bouquet of pretty flowers, some chocolates, and a giant can of spinach. I says, "Hey, Olive! Yer lover boy is here! Wanna getcher oil checked?" She says, "Ooooo, Popeye! For shame! You are such a FLIRT!" Then we hit the deck. Olive can last for hours, but when she finally goes off it's like Vesuvius! Well worth waitin' for. Ya gotta eat a lot of spinach to keep up with Olive let me tells ya. It's exhaustipatin'! I give a toot on my pipe every time she hits the high notes.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: M.Ted
Date: 12 Jan 06 - 12:45 PM

I'm with folks who think you are a cheap bugger for even trying to use it--

Go buy a really good bottle of Extra Virgin Olive Oil, the green stuff, and pour some on a plate--then get a baguette or some Italian bread, it can even be stale, tear off some pieces and dip them in the oil, and eat them.   That, and maybe a little wine, is all you need.


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 12 Jan 06 - 12:11 PM

Ciao Amos amigo mio, va bene?
Giok ☺


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: Amos
Date: 12 Jan 06 - 10:51 AM

Ciaou, paola!


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: polaitaly
Date: 12 Jan 06 - 10:25 AM

Found.
paola


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Subject: RE: BS: How Long Does Olive Oil Last?
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Jan 06 - 10:20 AM

I've lost my cookie.....


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