Job in Folk Education in Yorkshire

Subject: Job in Folk Education in Yorkshire
From: Fay
Date: 19 Jan 06 - 10:58 AM

Hello, just thought I'd post this here in case anyone was interested or wanted to pass the info around:

Education Officer
Yorkshire Dales Workshops is looking to appoint a part time education
officer early in
the New Year. The freelance post will be for 2 days per week over 47 weeks.
Fee
offered is £100 per day plus some travel expenses.
We are looking for someone with a professional background in education with
knowledge of the National Curriculum and interest and enthusiasm in folk
arts.
The role of the officer will be
• to promote folk music & dance through organising workshops & performances
in
schools and communities
• to give help in the development of associated learning materials and to
promote
their use in schools
• to oversee monitoring and evaluation of projects
• to develop networks and collaborations with schools and other arts
organisations
• to expand YDW's network of artists & educators
• to develop mentoring opportunities for young artists
• to provide information to support educational funding bids
Please send a letter of application, together with a copy of your CV and
names and
addresses of two relevant referees, to:
Hilary Simpson, YDW administrator, Glusburn Institute, Colne Road,
Glusburn BD20 8PJ
These should reach the YDW office by 31st January 2006

Subject: RE: Job in Folk Education in Yorkshire
From: GUEST,padgett (at work)
Date: 19 Jan 06 - 11:03 AM

Hilary if I am not much mistaken is a folkie herself!!

nice musician and ex 'Squire' group singer

Of course i could be wrong!

Ray

Subject: RE: Job in Folk Education in Yorkshire
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 19 Jan 06 - 06:28 PM

like all teaching jobs, it'll be allright - apart from the kids and the other teachers

Subject: RE: Job in Folk Education in Yorkshire
From: The Badger
Date: 19 Jan 06 - 07:53 PM

Needs some work on the fee!

Subject: RE: Job in Folk Education in Yorkshire
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Jan 06 - 09:14 PM

Ducks! Ducks!

~S~

Subject: RE: Job in Folk Education in Yorkshire
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 20 Jan 06 - 12:05 PM

Not for £100 a day sorry!

Subject: RE: Job in Folk Education in Yorkshire
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 20 Jan 06 - 08:17 PM

When I meet my rich husband, he will be able to support my lust for a job like this!

Subject: RE: Job in Folk Education in Yorkshire
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Jan 06 - 10:51 PM

They pay more in Wyoming.

Subject: RE: Job in Folk Education in Yorkshire
From: GUEST,(2)
Date: 20 Jan 06 - 10:56 PM

I expect they need to.

Subject: RE: Job in Folk Education in Yorkshire
From: Ned Ludd
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 04:29 AM

Tough job too! the kids at my school think I'm weird.

Subject: RE: Job in Folk Education in Yorkshire
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 07:20 AM

Who ever said kids were daft?

(No offence meant Ned!)

Subject: RE: Job in Folk Education in Yorkshire
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 07:26 AM

I'd love to do that job, I don't mind living on £200 a week, it's more than I get now. Bit of a long commute from the highlands though!
Giok

Subject: RE: Job in Folk Education in Yorkshire
From: Ned Ludd
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 07:34 AM

Non taken Guest. Our school once started a Morris team by telling the lads 'Come on if yer ard enough' I've tried to get the music dep't to do more with folk music but no luck yet.
Sounds like a fun job though! If I could fit it in I'd have a go.

Subject: RE: Job in Folk Education in Yorkshire
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 12:10 PM

It does sound like a great job. I wouldn't object to doing it but couldn't afford to only work two days a week,and doing so would prevent me accepting full time work elsewhere. If either Geoff or I manage to get a full time post soon maybe the other could consider it! whatever happens keep your fingers crossed for us as we both have a string of job applications in at the moment.

Subject: RE: Job in Folk Education in Yorkshire
From: Lady Nancy
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 03:19 PM

Why has everyone been so immediately damning of it? I wish I could take it but I certainly don't have the ability because (1) I don't particularly like kids and (2) I can't eat a whole one anyway. Seriously, though, surely it would be a great opportunity to give something back? The youngsters coming on behind us are the future of this tradition of music, song, dance etc. etc. (it is certainly much more than just that!) and anyone who has something to give to the tradition today must have the at least something to pass on to the future continuants? (...er is that word?)

I "give" to the tradition in whatever way I can, whether it is in helping with organising events or hosting small ones of my own. I do what I can and applaud anyone else who does so (where would we all be without Joe Offer???!!!??) So c'mone! You don't think the fee is great? - hey! I wish I got that! - it is much, much more than the fee.

Somewhere there will be JUST the person for this. I will keep my fingers crossed!

LN

Subject: RE: Job in Folk Education in Yorkshire
From: Ned Ludd
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 08:36 AM

Certainly not damning of it! If it were full time I would be considering it.( Already trying to do something unofficially.)

Subject: RE: Job in Folk Education in Yorkshire
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 02:41 PM

I would certainly not damn it either and would gladly help in any way to further the education of young people in folk music but unfortunately my mortgage company do not see this point of view.

Subject: RE: Job in Folk Education in Yorkshire
From: Fortunato
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 10:56 PM

Well, I'm getting closer to retirement. I wonder if a jackleg musicologist like me (and former school teacher like me) could get a job like that. Of course, I'm American, and perhaps they'd want someone more indigenous. sound awful good to me though.
cheers, chance

Subject: RE: Job in Folk Education in Yorkshire
From: Fay
Date: 24 Jan 06 - 01:17 PM

**Refresh**

and a little comment -

It is perfectly designed for musicians who could do with a few flexible hours (some even out of the office if neccessary) to plug gaps in their touring schedule, or those out of work, retired or with young kids etc... wanting to continue/get back into in work part time.

We would love to offer the post as full time for a huge wack of money, but sadly our funds won't allow it.

Also to clarify as it seems maybe to be misunderstood by some: the post is primarily to organise/co-ordinate the educational aspects of the organisation - not to be delivering workshops themselves in this role (though if a fab musician gets the job, they can theorectically organise things they might teach?!) - its not exclusivly about children either - some work with schools yep, but as an organisation we are also very interested in adult education opportunities.

Subject: RE: Job in Folk Education in Yorkshire
From: The Badger
Date: 24 Jan 06 - 08:00 PM

Read the job description - and the rest of the week's your own!

Subject: RE: Job in Folk Education in Yorkshire
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 25 Jan 06 - 04:38 AM

It strikes me that the 2 days a week would hardly make a dent in any sizeable county, given the job description. Kind of "too little, too late". I bet they give more time to these tasks in Scotland.

Why not a full time post?

Subject: RE: Job in Folk Education in Yorkshire
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 25 Jan 06 - 10:02 AM

That's VERY true, George, but at least they are doing SOMETHING.

Rhiannon

Subject: RE: Job in Folk Education in Yorkshire
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 25 Jan 06 - 10:23 AM

Hi Lady Nancy, why don't you ask ced2

eric

Subject: RE: Job in Folk Education in Yorkshire
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 25 Jan 06 - 10:27 AM

I'd take the job tomorrow if I didn't have a mortgage. I could then secretly spread the flamenco gospel throughout t'Dales!

Subject: RE: Job in Folk Education in Yorkshire
From: breezy
Date: 25 Jan 06 - 10:51 AM

Pete Coe would be ideal ,natural, a messiah, but, £100 a day !! try £ 250



If teachers in training were given more help , maybe.

but dont kids at primary level have 'country dancing' so they associate it with being of that age and leave it well alone.



Barry Goodman, and the likes of, please step forward

Subject: RE: Job in Folk Education in Yorkshire
From: breezy
Date: 25 Jan 06 - 06:06 PM

hang on

Subject: RE: Job in Folk Education in Yorkshire
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 25 Jan 06 - 07:20 PM

Why not a full time post? Because the Arts Council have only agreed to fund a part-time post, that's why. YDW operates, like most equivalent organisations, on grant aid rather than self-generated income.

It isn't a job in the way those of you who work as full-time employees understand the term. It is a freelance contract. The person who gets the contract will decide their own hours (within guidelines) and will pay their own National Insurance and Income Tax. Probably they will also have other self-employed work running at the same time.

That's how it works. It requires a real commitment (and personal risk and sacrifices) to work in this sort of field; the kind those of you with mainstream jobs and mortgages obviously don't feel up to, if comments so far are to be taken as representative. Of course, anyone who's been lucky enough to take early retirement with a nice pension would be able to get by pretty well on an extra £200 a week.

Plenty of people have to manage on a total income of a lot less than that.