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UK theme lost from R4

Keith A of Hertford 24 Jan 06 - 10:10 AM
Bonnie Shaljean 24 Jan 06 - 10:13 AM
GUEST, Topsie 24 Jan 06 - 10:22 AM
Lanfranc 24 Jan 06 - 12:03 PM
billybob 24 Jan 06 - 08:26 PM
Lancashire Lad 25 Jan 06 - 03:52 AM
John MacKenzie 25 Jan 06 - 04:03 AM
Gervase 25 Jan 06 - 05:09 AM
GUEST,neovo 25 Jan 06 - 06:08 AM
GUEST 25 Jan 06 - 06:14 AM
Michael 25 Jan 06 - 07:22 AM
GUEST,Wyrd Sister 25 Jan 06 - 09:54 AM
Zany Mouse 25 Jan 06 - 10:09 AM
Scotus 25 Jan 06 - 10:50 AM
Zany Mouse 25 Jan 06 - 11:02 AM
Fullerton 25 Jan 06 - 05:41 PM
GUEST 25 Jan 06 - 05:49 PM
greg stephens 25 Jan 06 - 05:56 PM
Bunnahabhain 26 Jan 06 - 09:08 AM
mooman 26 Jan 06 - 09:18 AM
GUEST, Topsie 26 Jan 06 - 11:46 AM
GUEST,MELROSE 26 Jan 06 - 12:18 PM
greg stephens 26 Jan 06 - 12:51 PM
Zany Mouse 26 Jan 06 - 03:11 PM
manitas_at_work 27 Jan 06 - 08:35 AM
Zany Mouse 27 Jan 06 - 03:14 PM
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Subject: UK theme lost from R4
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 24 Jan 06 - 10:10 AM

Are there other insomniacs and early risers who will miss this?
A medley of British folk song tunes in an unusual arrangement that included a composite of Drunken Sailor and Greensleeves.
For now to be replaced with yet another news bulletin, but I wonder if a collection of "World Music" is planned.


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Subject: RE: UK theme lost from R4
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 24 Jan 06 - 10:13 AM

What time is it on, and in conjunction with which programme?


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Subject: RE: UK theme lost from R4
From: GUEST, Topsie
Date: 24 Jan 06 - 10:22 AM

It's on at about 5.30 a.m. when the World Service gives way to Radio 4. I got really tired of it, but surely we don't need yet another news bulletin. Five minutes of World Music would be good - perhaps it could change regularly, say every month, to give people a chance to get to know a piece well without tiring of it (and 'World' could include the British Isles, of course).


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Subject: RE: UK theme lost from R4
From: Lanfranc
Date: 24 Jan 06 - 12:03 PM

As a long-term insomniac who has half-heard this compilation of British song tunes more times than I care to mention, I seem to recall that it has gone through a number of arrangements over the years. I don't believe it is broadcast on the World Service, just on Radio 4, so I don't feel that World Music would be a suitable alternative.

Perhaps they couldn't find a new arrangement and couldn't be bothered to dig out an earlier version. As has been said, another news broadcast is a somewhat anodyne way to start the day, even if the "theme" had become stale.

An arrangement of less cliched songs might be one way forward, but it doesn't sound as if they are open to suggestions, anyway.

Alan


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Subject: RE: UK theme lost from R4
From: billybob
Date: 24 Jan 06 - 08:26 PM

not only will I miss it , I may over sleep!!A wonderful way to wake up, even worse, now John Peel is gone they are taking off the best prog. on the beeb on Sat morning at 9 am.Save Home Truths for goodness sakes!


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Subject: RE: UK theme lost from R4
From: Lancashire Lad
Date: 25 Jan 06 - 03:52 AM

I would certainly miss it. Depending on my sleep pattern the Radio 4 theme either wakes me up, or I am lulled to sleep with "sailing by" after the shipping forcast.

I would rather awaken to this than the news headlines (usually bad)

Cheers
LL


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Subject: RE: UK theme lost from R4
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 25 Jan 06 - 04:03 AM

Mark Damazer the controller of radio 4 wants to live up to his christian name by making his mark, he may come closer to his surname by being damned by old Radio4 addicts like myself.
Home Truths has lost its sparkle since John Peel died, and he is a hard act to follow. However David Stafford is a disaster, he sounds like a huckster injecting artificial enthusiasm into his every pronounciation. It needs someone with the individuality of a Fi Glover or an Andy Kershaw, neither of whom I like. There is an ideal presenter on Radio Scotland called Tom Morton, who has just the right mix of warmth and cynicism, combined with a wry sense of humour.
I'm afraid though as someone who spends most of Feedback shouting at the anodyne, couldn't care less responses to criticism by listeners, of radio producers and controllers, nothing we say will make any difference.
Giok


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Subject: RE: UK theme lost from R4
From: Gervase
Date: 25 Jan 06 - 05:09 AM

The UK theme was, for many years, an essential part of my day - if I wasn't in the car on the way to work when it started, I was late. For me it brings back memories of gorgeous sunrises and drizzly dark winter mornings. I can see no reason to get rid of it for yet more news, trailers and speculation.
As for Home Truths - that's one programme that gets me lunging for the 'off' switch on a Saturday morning - "Let's go..." is about as far as it goes. John Peel's unique style redeemed it slightly, with his hint of piss-taking, but now it's just become a sorry collection of the sad and the mad; imbecilic attention seekers herded by the smug and self-satisfied David Stafford.
And why not axed Thought for the Day and Prayer for the Day while they're about it? As a secular humanist, it gets my goat that the BBC ring-fences areas where people can blather utter tripe without fear of contradiction, let alone comment.


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Subject: RE: UK theme lost from R4
From: GUEST,neovo
Date: 25 Jan 06 - 06:08 AM

For me it ranks with the shipping forecast as one of those comforting constants in radio listening. I heard somebody has set up a website with a petition to save the theme but I've not been able to find it. Does anybody out there have the link?


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Subject: RE: UK theme lost from R4
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Jan 06 - 06:14 AM

Hi.
Theres a link to the protest site on the BBC Radio 2 Folk and Acoustic message board..


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Subject: RE: UK theme lost from R4
From: Michael
Date: 25 Jan 06 - 07:22 AM

I am rarely awake at that time so probably won't notice it's absence but I am awake and listening at 12.45 am when that AWFUL'Sailing By'is on. Now there is somthing that SHOULD go!!!

Mike


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Subject: RE: UK theme lost from R4
From: GUEST,Wyrd Sister
Date: 25 Jan 06 - 09:54 AM

save the theme here

hear it here

Another little bit of Britain going (as opposed to bit of Little Britain...but there again that's 'in', isn't it...)


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Subject: RE: UK theme lost from R4
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 25 Jan 06 - 10:09 AM

I listen to the radio a lot during the night and always used to listen to World Service (not a lot of choice really if you don't want pop music). The UK Theme was always a relief as it usually meant more interesting programmes.

Now though, I listen to BBC7 - there is a god in the BBC after all

Rhiannon


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Subject: RE: UK theme lost from R4
From: Scotus
Date: 25 Jan 06 - 10:50 AM

Radio 7 is worth it, if only for 'The Goon Show, 'Just a Minute' and 'I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue'!!

Jack


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Subject: RE: UK theme lost from R4
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 25 Jan 06 - 11:02 AM

And Round the Horne and Rumpole.

Rhiannon


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Subject: RE: UK theme lost from R4
From: Fullerton
Date: 25 Jan 06 - 05:41 PM

Any one else noticed the double bass player making a mistake on sailing by?

He/she plays a duff note... pauses for a bar or three, then comes back in.

Love sailing by - mistakes and all

Hate the uk theme thing.

All that smart ass two-tunes-at-once malarky.

Good riddance.


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Subject: RE: UK theme lost from R4
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Jan 06 - 05:49 PM

The "UK" theme embodies a lot of my dislikes about music (I won't go into them here), but of course it's become imbued with the romance of the time of day it inhabits, so for that reason I've grown to like it and will miss it (although I'm rarely up that early).


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Subject: RE: UK theme lost from R4
From: greg stephens
Date: 25 Jan 06 - 05:56 PM

I can't say I love the piece of music wildly, it's had a good run for its money, maybe its time has come. Except, as we know very well, it's one of the few places where they play folk tunes on radio 4(even if in a tricksy neo-classical style). But at least they are playing them. I do think Radio 4 has a duty to portray British vernacukar culture, and I fear this is another bit they are going to eliminate in favour of yet more news with clever-dick computer editing. A depressing thought.
But they had better keep their hands off "Sailing By" or they will find out what serious trouble is like.


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Subject: RE: UK theme lost from R4
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 26 Jan 06 - 09:08 AM

It's a cut down version of Sir Henry Woods Fantasia on British sea songs. It therefore streches the term sea song rather, and british somewhat as well.

I had a long rant earlier, but the post got eaten, and other people have covered most of the points. I do wish they would keep their hands off little bits of Britishness like that, and not fiddle with stuff for it's own sake.


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Subject: RE: UK theme lost from R4
From: mooman
Date: 26 Jan 06 - 09:18 AM

I have gone out of my way to rearrange my day to avoid hearing "The Cacophony". Good riddance to it.

Peace

moo


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Subject: RE: UK theme lost from R4
From: GUEST, Topsie
Date: 26 Jan 06 - 11:46 AM

I like Sailing By, but switch off before the national anthem/dirge, which I can't stand.


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Subject: RE: UK theme lost from R4
From: GUEST,MELROSE
Date: 26 Jan 06 - 12:18 PM

KEEP THEM ALL.
For persons who change work shifts at 06.00 from nights, this is the point of pleasure that the 'Time to go Home' (another remembered radio theme) is almost arrived.

Sun is rising and the smell of bacon in the pan wafts through the air.
A combination of pleasures of mind and bodt !!!!!!


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Subject: RE: UK theme lost from R4
From: greg stephens
Date: 26 Jan 06 - 12:51 PM

The greatest time to hear it is driving home up the M6 from a gig, the sun comes up and that music is played, and you are nearlly home. Bliss.


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Subject: RE: UK theme lost from R4
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 26 Jan 06 - 03:11 PM

The tune was written by Fritz Spiegl. His widow was interviewed on Radio 4 yesterday.

Rhiannon


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Subject: RE: UK theme lost from R4
From: manitas_at_work
Date: 27 Jan 06 - 08:35 AM

Which tune? I thought they all pre-dated Fritz Spiegl.


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Subject: RE: UK theme lost from R4
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 27 Jan 06 - 03:14 PM

Fair comment Manitas - I should have said "the ARRANGEMENT was written ..."

Rhiannon


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