'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: The Sandman
Date: 08 Dec 14 - 11:24 AM

"And it doesn't come anywhere near "Streets of London" for supercilious condescension"
I would be interested to hear why you find that song condescending.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Jack Campin
Date: 08 Dec 14 - 10:23 AM

slightly arrogant fellow bitterly addressing a lovely woman that he can't have...anyone for Raglan Road?

And it doesn't come anywhere near "Streets of London" for supercilious condescension.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: bubblyrat
Date: 08 Dec 14 - 09:36 AM

Oddly,the thing that I remember the most about PS is that he was one of three singing brothers ; younger brother Robin had a hit with Hoagy's song "My Resistance Is Low" , and older brother sang under the name " Eden Kane " with hits in the early 60s in UK. (I think !!).

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: michaelr
Date: 07 Dec 14 - 10:12 PM

Brilliant, Steve! The parallel is obvious, now that you point it out.

BTW, I don't think Sarstedt's song is all that abysmal. Its main shortcoming is that the verses and chorus are the same and it has no bridge.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST,Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Dec 14 - 05:50 PM

Helluva stretch this, mebbe, but slightly arrogant fellow bitterly addressing a lovely woman that he can't have...anyone for Raglan Road? :-)

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 07 Dec 14 - 03:51 PM

Oh come on, Sasha Distel was bloody gorgeous! (all lady catters, don't you agree?) And he played for the Queen Mother's 80th birthday in 1980.
One of my accordion-playing friends still plays WDYGTML (good waltzy melody if nothing else) - and if there happen to be singers around, we sing it too. Another female friend wore a stick-on walrus moustache that kept falling off, and brought the house down!

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST,DTM
Date: 07 Dec 14 - 05:32 AM

Saw Sarstedt several years ago on a Dave Berry, Wayne Fontana package tour. He was very poor.

"WDYGTML" was a novelty song that crammed in as much dropped names as was humanly possible in the alloted time.

Sacha Distell was originally a session guitarist and IIRC only began a career as a singer when he came to the UK. PS's song actually made Distell famous in the UK.

While I'm here, can I throw "Daddy's Home" onto the barfing pile?

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Thompson
Date: 07 Dec 14 - 04:26 AM

Ten minutes or ten months, it's still an interesting song, from the perspective of the 21st century. The 1960s attitude to the celebrity of someone who was once begging in rags, and is now a 'celeb' is not approval but contempt. Today's 'celebs' are role models.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST,wallbanger
Date: 06 Dec 14 - 11:29 PM

Where do you go to... is the greatest pop song of all time. He also did a good one "He lived his life as though it was a movie.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: lefthanded guitar
Date: 27 Sep 11 - 01:04 PM

Little Hawk I am engaged by your description of the songwriting process. It is for many songwriters (Dylan and myself included, tho I don't of course put myself in the same class as Dylan) something that springs from the subconscious and brings the influences of years of living and thinking and feeling.

I saw this thread and remembered the guy who sang this song when I was living in a small college town. I think the song still has a valid perspective, even if it's not as well crafted as other songs on the topic by the likes of Dylan or Ochs. The thing is only that (many of ) our generation that has moved on from that mindset -but I'm not sure the song is as dated as we may think.

What the song reminds me most,however, is recalling the community of people I knew in grad school,one foot in school the other in the work world; living in flimsy flats, hair long and tangled;rejoicing in the freedom of young adulthood but searching for love and struggling to find our way in life. Was friendship ever so valued and betrayal ever so scorned as it was in those days of the dawn of our maturity?   And when we believed, at the time, (as Nanci Griffith observed years later in Julie Gold's "Goodnight New York" ) that "having less meant knowing more."

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 26 Sep 11 - 05:56 PM

Thanks for reviving (?) these matchless lyrics for the mudcat hall of shame (except I barfed on that Paul Anka baby thing).

A favorite of mine in the Prairie Flower thread, 17347
Prairie Flower

One timeless verse-
I'm a little acorn brown
Lying on the dusty ground
Nobody cares to pick me up
For I'm just a little nut.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Sep 11 - 05:13 PM

I can't argue with that.

Subject: How do I get Self Confidence
From: GUEST,Eric
Date: 26 Sep 11 - 03:02 AM

If you are plagued by low self esteem and confidence, it is important that you take the necessary steps to start taking control and resolve to turn your life around. It’s not easy when you are facing a multitude of self doubts and negative thoughts at every turn, but the good news is that you can overcome these negative traits, it just takes time and effort and a patient approach.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 09:42 AM

The reason I asked, Ray, was because different people write songs in different ways. Some people write very deliberately, with the conscious mind....they decide they are going to write about some specific thing: like a breakup with their girlfriend or an antiwar statement or whatever...

And other people write spontaneously and instinctively, without any prior calculation or expectation of what's going to happen (that's how I do it, and I've written hundreds of songs that way).

And still others write with a combination of prior mental calculation plus spontaneity/instinctively (I've done that occasionally).

I find that the stuff that is written on the spot with no prior idea of even what the song is going to be about...surprisingly, perhaps...results in far superior songwriting. And why? Because what you are writing when you write that way springs straight out of the vast well of your own subconxcious (or if you are mystically inclined...from some source that is beyond even you). You just have to relax, get your mind out of the way, and let it happen. And it's great.

It wouldn't surprise me a bit if Sarstedt got the tune and musical arrangement in a minute, and the lyrics in 7 or 8 minutes. That would be pretty normal, as far as I'm concerned.

Now, the point is, when stuff rises instinctively out of your own subconscious, it has all kinds of meanings in it. It relates to all kinds of stuff that's been bubbling around in the back of your mind, maybe for years, maybe for most of your life. And it just happens.

Whether Sarstedt had any conscious intention to say anything in those lyrics, he still has said something regardless. And he's touched on some interesting issues there, regardless. It may have meant nothing to him at the time on a conscious level, but it still has meaning, regardless. In my opinion. ;-) And it doesn't hurt you or anybody else if I find some meaning in his song.

But I didn't start this thread with any intention of provoking dissertations on the deep meaning of the song. I just wanted to see if anyone else remembered it, because it was on the radio so much in 1970 that it really started to bug me. ;-) And that was why I launched the thread. Period. It then went where it would, as threads tend to do.

******

Grishka - Don't let my looks deceive you. I am 62 years old this year. I only wish I was as young as I appear to be. It would be nice.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST,Ray
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 07:25 AM

Seems to me that the deeper meanings in the song stem entirely from the person looking for them rather than the person who wrote it.

I don't see the relevance in whether I have experience in writing songs but, since you ask, yes, I have written the odd one and I also co-wrote a musical which played at the Royal Exchange, Manchester back in the 1970s.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 05:56 AM

I think we are not looking for "deeper" meanings, but for ideas and feelings that seemed self-evident in those days but should now be explained to younger persons (such as LH, judged by his appearance on U2be). Also, some aspects were specific to Europe. (Actually, in 1969 I was a young boy myself and hardly understood a word of English, but I lived near Paris in the 1970s.)

Certainly the lyrics lack finish. A line like "They say that when you get married it'll be to a millionaire" is ridiculous by any standard. Perhaps Sarstedt was ashamed of it lateron. The story had obviously grown inside him for a long time, maybe reading the yellow press at the hairdresser's, so it just fell off when ripe.

If I understand LH correctly, he is trying to check the songs and ideas of the past for their relevance today, which I find quite worth the while. If the old recipes do not seem very useful today, we may at least avoid repeating some of the old errors.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Dec 10 - 05:49 PM

I'm well aware of what you're trying to say, Ray. I understand what you're saying.

But that doesn't mean that there are no deeper meanings in the song, regardless of how few minutes it was written in.

Do you have experience writing songs yourself?

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST,Ray
Date: 30 Dec 10 - 04:17 PM

I'm not seeking to criticise anybody but I once asked Peter, a couple of decades ago, about the reputed deeper meaning contained in the song and his reply was that it had only taken him about ten minutes to write. Its sad than people come along after the event and try to find inferences and meaning in something when there aren't any. I was simply trying to point this out.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Dec 10 - 12:25 PM

Well put, Grishka.

Ray - Sure...it could take about 10 minutes to write that song. Why not? Most of the songs I've written have happened very quickly. We're not all like Leonard Cohen (who says he takes months or even years to finish writing some of his songs). Most of Bob Dylan's great songs were written down in a quick flash of inspiration, so why would it have taken Sarstedt very long to write "Where Do You Go To, My Lovely"? This stuff just springs out of the subconscious and you have to be attentive and get it down fast when it happens...at least that's how it works for me.

What's interesting about the song, though, is not how long it might have taken to write it, but what Grishka had to say in his last post. He has explained it perfectly, in my opinion. It's about "class treason", as he says. It's about selling out for personal gain. It makes me think of someone like Veronica Lodge in the Archie comics, only she was born rich. ;-) So she couldn't commit class treason by joining the jet set. The weakness of the song, again as Grishka says, is the undercurrent of envy that weaves through it. A true social revolutionary is not supposed to envy the material advantages of jet set fame and fortune, he is supposed to despise and reject them utterly...otherwise he has slipped from revolutionary grace, hasn't he? ;-)

These were important issues in the 60s.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST,Ray
Date: 30 Dec 10 - 07:35 AM

Nah then "erbert" (are you the spotty one or someone else?) It was actually called "Frozen Orange Juice". His other "hit" was "Beirut" (Crumbling stone by stone) anyone remember it?

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST,erbert
Date: 29 Dec 10 - 07:27 AM

oh for f@cks sake, the song is bollox and the singer is a bit of a dick..

history.. end of..

But his one about orange juice was actually really quite good !!!??

sorry, the orange juice song is one of my favourites......

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 29 Dec 10 - 07:20 AM

LH, you're right: it was the tune and Sarstedt's voice that made the hit.

But indeed, the lyrics made a lot of sense to us back in 1969 (though I never liked them). In a nutshell, the song is about "class treason". Its story is ficticious (as the woman turns out to be the narrator's childhood friend in Naples, where Sarstedt never lived), but the attributes were well-known from the yellow press in Europe, about Loren and other members of the "jet set". These attributes included a fashionable fake bohemianism represented by Rolling Stones records etc.

A member of the working class would be allowed to become educated and successful, but mingling with representatives of crudest capitalism like Aga Khan was a capital sin. It is however a particular weakness of these lyrics that they convey envy as well.

The real haut monde, of course, would smirk at Sarstedt's vulgar yellow-press clichés.

The times, they have a-changed since, but not completely.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST,Ray
Date: 29 Dec 10 - 05:37 AM

So much rubbish written about a song he once told me it took him around ten minutes to write. Still, I suppose even more has been written about Shakespeare.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Dec 10 - 03:17 AM

I have listened to Peter Sarstedt doing the title song of this thread on Youtube before an apparently lobotomized crowd of late 1960s young people who dance vapidly around on the dance floor seeming quite unconscious of the lyrics while he sings the song earnestly at them from the raised stage.

Interesting. He sings it quite well. While it does seem affected and pretentious in one sense...from another angle, I can see why some people really like it. It is unique, and it has a kind of interesting tune and overall effect.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Dec 10 - 12:19 AM

John Otway's attempt to parody Dylan does have some of the typical Dylanesque vocal exaggerations stretched to a pretty ridiculous extent...as was clearly Otway's intention...and it's a piss poor and wretched attempt to sound like Bob Dylan, in my opinion. ;-) He manages to be a lot more annoying than Bob at his very worst. That also was probably his intention, so I guess he sort of succeeded...but I'm not impressed.

You want to hear a really good parody? Check out this marvelous parody of Neil Young:

Southern California Brings Me Down

Now THAT is a good parody. It's tuneful, and it's fun to listen to. It catches virtually every Neil-Youngish kind of riff and wordplay you can name, and it does so in an affectionate manner.

It's not bloody annoying and mean-spirited like Otway's tuneless mangling imitation of Bob Dylan's most aggressive vocal phrasings.

(However, I bet Otway had fun doing it.)

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Tootler
Date: 23 Jul 10 - 06:51 PM

I noticed this thread had reappeared, so I had another look and a poke around You Tube and listened to some of the Peter Sarsted songs. I was quite surprised how poorly they had stood the test of time (or not as it happens). What seemed at the time interesting songs now sound bland and dated.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST,Patsy Warren
Date: 23 Jul 10 - 07:23 AM

This is a coincidence I was having this very same conversation with my son who unfortunately has this on a 60's compilation CD. I wonder what was inside his head when he wrote it! I know Rita Heyworth had something going with the Aga Khan but I don't recall her sounding like Marlena Dietrich and I am sure she didn't come from Naples. Surely Peter Sarstedt's big brother Eden Cane would have been more likely the age to fancy Sophia Loren. Perhaps she turned one of them down and it was a bit of sour grapes, a little bit like You're so Vain by Carly Simon

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: autoharpbob
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 04:17 PM

Amazing thread! - and so sad that I not only could sing along to every single set of words printed, but I knew most of them by heart. I got just past halfway then thought to myself "Nobody has put up "Two Little Boys" yet!" - then someone did! My only excuse is that I was too young to know better, and now I appreciate them for their post-modernist irony.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: puck
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 10:40 AM

I'd have to say first of all that I love 'Where do you go to', and regard it as an iconic song of it's time. I love lyrics that tell a tale and even at the time it came out I understood the lyrics and references to Zizzy, Belmain etc.
I'd also like to say that considering you all seem to HATE the songs mentioned on this thread many of you seem to know ALL the lyrics [ very sad!!]; or have researched them to post them here [even sadder!!], and, by including the lyrics for all to see, are doing a fine job of advertising them, even in a negative light, you help to ensure their longevity!

I also have to own up to liking 'The green green grass of home'.....but then I'm Welsh and whilst it's very sad that not everyone is lucky enough to be 'cymro' and I pity those of you who are not....but then you can't be all perfect!!
I got the last bit in b4 you lot

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: wilbyhillbilly
Date: 14 Jun 10 - 01:55 AM

I'll try again, with a clicky!!!!!!

Take off your clothes

That's better.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Jun 10 - 01:49 AM

Take off your clothes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juqsMRYwQUs

Posted this sometime ago now.




whb

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST,Uncle Rumpo
Date: 13 Jun 10 - 09:15 PM

he was support act at gig I went to about 5 years ago..
I didn't enjoy much of his act & material..

but "Orange Juice" was surprisingly quite good for a long forgotten pop song..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rykS25x7Jhk


at least as good as Cat Stevens wanky Deram era trite

and almost as good as David Bowie on the same Decca sub lable.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Tug the Cox
Date: 13 Jun 10 - 06:55 PM

Well Rory, you don't like it , understood. Anything else youhave said is no more than a repeat of that obvious fact!

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Cretzon
Date: 13 Jun 10 - 03:31 PM

"Pure unadulterated shite" sounds like a euphemism for "wish I'd thought of it, but didn't have the talent, and probably never will have".

OK - easy to knock it 41 years later if you've got nothing better to do, but it made the artist and a few others a bit of fame and money, stayed in the charts for 16 weeks (four of them at number one)and obviously kept Joe Public happy for a while, or they wouldn't have bought it by the ton. It won the Ivor Novello award, as well, as I remember. Hardly shite.

If it was about anything it was probably about envy and jealousy.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST,ruairiobroin
Date: 13 Jun 10 - 02:33 PM

Sorry Tug the Cox I got signed as "guest" whilst giving out about Where do you go to my lovely   What I said I probably said 40 years ago too.   Schmoltz does not improve with age . I was attending Folk clubs back then and there were lots of acts regularly appearing in folk clubs with and without accordions who had well constructed meaningful songs to sing and play that are never heard now, more's the pity, it's a shame that shite like that song will never die
It has always sounded to me that someone who had only a tenuous grasp of the English language an iffy understanding of music , a copy of a "Write your own Folksong" book and a friend in a record company was behind it. On the basis of what I have read above I remain to be convinced otherwise.
Murray MacLeod    I think that may have been Matt McGinn

Throw the other shite to Otway http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPPm7CVP6Bk

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 13 Jun 10 - 03:50 AM

Several parodies have been mentioned already, I am not sure if Billy Connnolly was the author of the parody or not, but I distinctly remember one of the verses he sang which went:

"I remember the back streets of Partick
Two children begging in rags
Where you tried to sell your wee brother
For a packet of Embassy fags"

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Tug the Cox
Date: 12 Jun 10 - 06:58 PM

Easy to say at 40 tears remove, anonymous guest, but in 1970, an acoustic(ish) song , from someone performing regularly in folk clubs ( see above) featuring an authentic sounding accordion....was pretty good.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Jun 10 - 08:32 AM

Where do you go to my lovely , pure unadulterated shite and a staple for woeful buskers down through the years. Regardless of who it may or may not have been about it , it was/is an exercise in namedropping in an effort to sound sophisticated, any reader of Jackie could have done the job had it needed to be done. The Romeo and Juliet . Dire Straits number at least had the good grace not to name drop and of course had a decent bit of music to it, It is high time that John Otway gave it the treatment as he has done so admirably with "I will Survive", "Honey", and of course "Two Little Boys" in the right hands these songs are masterpieces and Mr Otway has those hands. http:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_cE6I5V-bY

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Tug the Cox
Date: 12 Jun 10 - 06:59 AM

Once saw Sarsted live, he was singing 'Take off yout clothes'. When he got to the 'My daddy.is the pope.line, A nun in the Audience...in full drag, got up and ostentatiously made her way out. Poor Sarsted vainly tried to explain that it was in fact a moral song, as the impostor got his come-uppance...but to no avail.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Nov 08 - 01:27 PM

"there have been far worse hit songs over the years"

No question about that, pavane. ;-) It's like trying to determine which fish dives the deepest, isn't it? The competition is fierce!

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: wilbyhillbilly
Date: 18 Nov 08 - 08:42 AM

Peter Sarstedt 18 Nov 08 1.27am post is mine, just realised it came in as Guest.

Sorted cookie.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: pavane
Date: 18 Nov 08 - 02:19 AM

"Bonnie Tyler's "Total Eclipse of the Heart" is one of the most spectacular examples of wretchedly bad, horribly melodramatic lyrical and emotive excess that has ever been heard in the annals of recorded music"

"This will make you a ton of money." Too right, and surely there have been far worse hit songs over the years. (The list in this thread!)

I will ask her next time I see her if she agrees.

Subject: Lyr Add: TAKE OFF YOUR CLOTHES (Peter Sarstedt)
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Nov 08 - 01:27 AM

I have a 45rpm of Peter Sarstedt (United Artists UP35041) released 1969 the A side is "As Though It Were A Movie" from the album of the same name, the B side of that is TAKE OFF YOUR CLOTHES as mentioned earlier.

I just played it again and was reminded how controversial it was at the time, at least as far as the BBC were concerned. It's still a nice quite chirpy tongue in cheek little number. I like it.

PETER SARSTEDT. TAKE OFF YOUR CLOTHES

Take off your clothes let me see what it is that you're hiding
And don't look so shocked you have nothing to fear from my eyes

My daddy is a priest you know
And I am not a beast you know
I just want to look
I just want to look

So take off your clothes and stand naked as nature intended
And I'll take off mine just to show you that I'm in good faith

My daddy is a priest you know
And I am not a beast you know
I just want to look
I just want to look

Well now you can see that it isn't as bad as all that
So lie on the bed and I'll talk of my unhappy childhood

My daddy is the pope you know
And I just want to grope you know
No, I just want to love
Yes I just want to love

Well it will not hurt you I promise you that cross my heart
The first time is always the best you can ask anybody, ask your mother

My daddy is a priest you know
And I am not a beast you know
I just want to feel
I just want to feel

Well how can you say that I brought you here just for one purpose
There's thousands of girls I could get if I just wanted that, yes there are

My daddy is a priest you know
And I am not a beast you know
I just want to love
I just want to love

Well how does it feel now that you are no longer a maiden
What do you mean you want more and you want it right now, oh my God

My daddy is a priest you know
And I am not a beast you know
I just want to sleep
I just want to sleep

Take off your clothes let me see what it is that you're hiding
And don't look so shocked you have nothing to fear from my eyes


whb

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Nov 08 - 12:21 AM

It's fun to read over some of this thread again. I have to say that one of the aforementioned songs, Bonnie Tyler's "Total Eclipse of the Heart" is one of the most spectacular examples of wretchedly bad, horribly melodramatic lyrical and emotive excess that has ever been heard in the annals of recorded music. It's downright astonishing. I used to hear it occasionally on some radio station or other and I would always sort of freeze and just listen...in a state of mixed horror and fascination. Kind of like you just can't avoid looking at a grisly auto accident as you pass by...

Wouldn't she get a little embarrassed to sing that song? Well, I guess not, but who knows? Maybe her agent said, "This will make you a ton of money." ;-)

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Nov 08 - 06:58 PM

CHILDREN'S CHORUS:

Grocer Jack, grocer Jack,
Get off your back, get into town,
Don't let us down, oh no-o, no-o...

Sorry, I just felt a sudden urge to clench my buttocks...

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Cretzon
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 12:06 PM

Snuffy - If you go onto YouTube and search Peter Sarstedt and Where Do You Go To My Lovely, there's a video of him doing the song much more recently than the usual one you see. I think there are two extra verses in this version.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 05:54 AM

just read thru this thread. does anyone remember the Bob Williamson parody?

On that album done by Joe Stead's Sweet Folk and Country label with Brownsville Banned and Bernard Wrigley on the front. its a bugger being old and no one knows what you're talking about.

Your friend , they all in high places
Alf Biggs from the chippy is one
he bought you a cucumber for Christmas,
And you play with it - just for fun....for a laugh, for a joke, ha! ha! ha!

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Mysha
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 05:16 AM

Hi Snuffy,

That's the third verse.

It's:

1 Dietrich
2 Apartment
3 Parties
Chorus

4 Qualifications
5 Vacation
6 St. Moritz
Chorus

7 20 - 30
8 High places
9 Married
Chorus

10 Naples
11 Marie-Clare
Finale


                                                                Mysha

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Snuffy
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 04:41 AM

Has anybody else heard this verse? Is it Sarstedt's or someone else's addition?

You go to the embassy parties
Where you talk in Russian and Greek
And the young men who move in your circles
Hang on to ev'ry word that you speak

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Snuffy
Date: 08 Nov 08 - 07:45 PM

According to Wikipedia:

It is often suspected that the name Marie-Claire is inspired by the originally French Marie Claire magazine, a women's fashion weekly first published in 1937. One theory says that this song is about the Italian star Sophia Loren, who was abandoned by her father and had a poverty stricken life in Naples. Another theory has the song being inspired by singer and actress Nina van Pallandt. In reality, Peter Sarstedt wrote the song about a girl he fell madly in love with in Vienna in 1965. She died tragically in a hotel fire.[citation needed] The song was written in Copenhagen. (Confirmation of this fact can be found on the CD cover of "The Best of Peter Sarstedt", EMI, nr. 8297622, Australian CD).

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Nov 08 - 08:53 AM

Actually marie claire was a women sho peter fell in love with Napples who died in a fire.

Subject: Lyr Add: FOREVER AND EVER AMEN (Randy Travis)
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 07:14 AM

Peace, you missed this:
Forever And Ever, Amen
Randy Travis

You may think that I'm talking foolish
You've heard that I'm wild and I'm free
You may wonder how I can promise you now
This love that I feel for you
Always will be

You're not just time that I'm killing
I'm no longer one of those guys
As sure as live
This love that I give
Is gonna be yours until the day that I die
Oh baby

CHORUS:
I'm gonna love you forever
Forever and ever, amen
As long as old men sit and talk about the weather
As long as old women sit and talk about old men
If you wonder how long I'll be faithful
(I'll be happy to tell you again/Just listen to how this song ends)
I'm gonna love you
Forever and ever
Forever and ever amen

They say time takes its toll on a body
Makes a young girl's brown hair turn gray
Well, honey, I don't care
I ain't in love with your hair
And if it all fell out
I'd love you anyway

Well, they say time can play tricks on a memory
Make people forget things they knew
Well, it's easy to see
It's happening to me
I've already forgotten every women but you
Oh baby

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: LeTenebreux
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 10:23 PM

This song figures big in the recent Wes Anderson film, "The Darjeeling Limited". In fact, I suspect it's pretty much the kernel for the whole movie.
So....I'm bumping the thread.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Leadfingers
Date: 13 Oct 07 - 09:23 PM

I missed this thread completely in '06 ! Wasnt I lucky ?

Subject: Lyr Add: TWO LITTLE BOYS
From: Ian Burdon
Date: 13 Oct 07 - 02:46 PM

Tunesmith wrote:- "Interestingly, Sacha Distel was just an obscure ex-boyfiend of Brigitte Bardot when the song came out. Later, of course, he became quite a big star in the UK."

In the late fifties/early sixties he was quite the rising star on jazz guitar and it is said that the relationship with La Bardot was terminated when she realised that he was beginning to catch up with her in the fame stakes. In France he was sufficiently well known and respected for George Brassens to give him a song (Le Myosotis)

Anyway, I've enjoyed reading through this thread and to add to all of the above highlights of popular song would offer the following which UK and OZ readers will recognise immediately. Feel free to sing along; one, two, three...

Two little boys had two little toys
Each had a wooden horse
Gaily they played each summer's day
Warriors both of course
One little chap then had a mishap
Broke off his horse's head
Wept for his toy then cried with joy
As his young playmate said

Did you think I would leave you crying
When there's room on my horse for two
Climb up here Jack and don't be crying
I can go just as fast with two
When we grow up we'll both be soldiers
And our horses will not be toys
And I wonder if we'll remember
When we were two little boys

Long years had passed, war came so fast
Bravely they marched away
Cannon roared loud, and in the mad crowd
Wounded and dying lay
Up goes a shout, a horse dashes out
Out from the ranks so blue
Gallops away to where Joe lay
Then came a voice he knew

Did you think I would leave you dying
When there's room on my horse for two
Climb up here Joe, we'll soon be flying
I can go just as fast with two
Did you say Joe I'm all a-tremble
Perhaps it's the battle's noise
But I think it's that I remember
When we were two little boys

Do you think I would leave you dying
There's room on my horse for two
Climb up here Joe, we'll soon by flying
Back to the ranks so blue
Can you feel Joe I'm all a tremble
Perhaps it's the battle's noise
But I think it's that I remember
When we were two little boys

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST,PETER THOMPSON
Date: 13 Oct 07 - 12:38 PM

I love the comments and lyrics but, hey, I just released Where Do You Go To My Lovely on my new CD TAKING A DIVE (HEART FIRST). I liked the song so much that I got Peter Sarstedt to sing harmony on two of the cuts on my CD! He's a great guy and you are all wrong about Marie Claire. Listen for free www.cdbaby.com/cd/peterthompson
Enjoy!

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Muttley
Date: 11 Feb 06 - 07:50 AM

Sorry; just realised when writing about Asperger's I stopped the 'obsessions' bit at music! D'oh (Simpsons is NOT one of them - though it and Futurama and comics DEFINITELY are for my youngest - the severly Aspie one)

My other obsessions are, Dinosaurs couple of hundred models and figurines / realistic toys as well as over 50 texts and 200 plus 'other' books, magazines and video's.

World War II aeroplanes (all nations) , German tanks and artillery in scale models + some battleships.

Books - especially Tolkien, Anne McCaffrey, David Eddings, Terry Pratchett, Douglas Adams, and several others

Finally - History - ancient Rome & Egypt and Britain / Europe up to about the end of the Tudor Period

Anyway - let's get back to torturing one another with awful songs :-)

Muttley

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Muttley
Date: 11 Feb 06 - 05:31 AM

PS - I've only been busking in the last 8 months or so - never had the confidence to do it before - and since beoming an ABI thanks to the m/cycle accident and forgetting how to play; I had to relearn - very simplified. Can't barre chord or fingerpick any more and I cant remember chordings - even to songs I know well so I print up all the songs I can do with a line of lyric and the corrsponding chords placed above where the changes occur - and so I've taught myself to read two lines at once and play the chords as I go.

Probably seen as cheating in some circles - but at least I still have some music left!

I busk because I love to play - the coin I get is just a bonus.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Muttley
Date: 11 Feb 06 - 03:03 AM

Tell me where and when - if it doesn't interfere with my umpiring, I'd be honoured.

Where did you do your nursing?

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Joybell
Date: 10 Feb 06 - 08:28 PM

Muttley, such a sad and lovely story. Thank you so much for sharing it. Have we crossed paths I wonder? I was a busker in Melbourne for several years back in the 80s. I also have a background in the medical profession and have memories that trigger overwhelming responses.
Actually one of mine includes a bear - speaking of waltzing with them. One morning my friend called me to her home. Her baby had died as the result of SIDS. She was trained in first aid but there had been nothing she could do. While we waited for the ambulance I was sitting, by myself, in the children's room with the baby on my lap. Her two-year-old sister wandered in, looked at us and picked up the baby's Teddy bear from the crib. "My Teddy now!" she said to me. "..... would like that." I said. "Take good care of him".
Joy

Muttley are you still in Melbourne. There's a wonderful festival next weekend just East of there. I could sing "Waltzing with Bears" for you if you'd like to meet me there. Cheers Joy

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Muttley
Date: 10 Feb 06 - 07:22 PM

Dear Joybell - a lovely story - both of them. If you don't mind a little observation here: Your great uncle sounds like he was a tad 'eccentric'. If so he may have actually been an Asperger's affected person. Such people act the way you have described, children tend to be attracted to them because of their child-like openness and often obsessive focussing on subjects that frequently appeal to children themselves ie trains, dinosaurs, letterboxes - - -anything really. I have a very deep and sensitive 'soft-spot' for "Aspies"; as they are known to their families and selves. The reason being that I have one son who is extremely mildly Asperger and another wh is quite profoundly Asperger (bordering on high-functioning Autistic) while I, myself am somewhere in between. My obsessions are music (though I can't read or write it, I can play the guitar and recorder and didjeridu and am learning the Low Pipe (though the guitar has suffered as a result of head injuries the result of which I forgot how to play and had to relearn in a far more simple manner).
As for the lady who kept looking for the unlocked door - I suggest watching the Australian 'claymation' short film: "Harvey Krumpet" - it's about a young chap, obviously an Autistic Spectrum person with Tourettes who ends up in a nursing home with several Alzheimer's patients. Sadly and beautifully poignant - won an Oscar a few years ago. Worth a watch if you haven't already seen it.
Cool Beans, your wife would love it too. If you can't get it where you are, let me know and I shall try over here for you - send me a PM if you want to take it 'off thread'.

Tunesmith: We were recently in Paris as well but I didn't get to walk down the Boulevard Saint Michel - much as that was one of my goals. I think we did drive a bit of it on a coach, though.

I too, must admit to loving this song - don't know why, but it's just beautifully haunting to me - especially with the accordion (of course my wife is French so that may have a bearing, though I loved it even before I met her just over 30 years ago. However for many years I was unable to listen to it - though I had it on record AND tape:
You see, I used to be paramedic and on one aoocasion I was called (with my partner) to an "unconscious infant" south of Melbourne in one of the bayside suburbs. Lovely house, young 'semi-professional'-type couple, with a young daughter (first and only child). When we got there the babe was not unconscious, but in fact deceased (SIDS - "cot death"). She was a gorgeous little girl and looked like she was asleep. And her name was Marie Claire - after the song! After that, for many years, just the sound of the opening bars was enough to reduce me to tears. - that was in 1984/5 or thereabouts. Lately, with my busking, I have included the song, but I have to precede and follow it with "happy" songs or I just start to falter on the lines "So look into my face marie Claire . . . . " If I'm not careful the image of that child as a young woman (she'd be 21, now) swims up and overwhelms me, even now. Funny I can't recall ANY of those whose lives I saved (and there were literally a few hundred) but quite a few of those we 'lost' still haunt me!

Could someone send me the lyrics and chords to "Bears" and let me know where I can hear the tune.

Muttley

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Joybell
Date: 10 Feb 06 - 04:51 PM

Just to add to the theory of Cool Bean's wife. They love this song in nursing homes. Everyone relates it to everyone else.

I was performing in one recently where an elderly lady kept excusing herself to go and do the rounds of all the many doors in the place. She whispered to me as she passed, "They might forget to lock one and I can get out". I hope she finds bears to waltz with one day.
Cheers, Joy

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Cool Beans
Date: 10 Feb 06 - 04:39 PM

Ah, Muttley, it's good of you to ask.
   My wife believes waltzing with bears is another way of saying "gone 'round the bend" or whatever phrase you prefer for losing one's mind. And since Uncle Walter lives with his niece or nephew, it suggests he's a fellow of advancing years. Hence, Alzheimer's.
    I see the song as a children's story, like "The 12 Dancing Princesses" who go mysteriously disapper every night to go dancing.
    It's open to intepretation, like any work of art.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Joybell
Date: 10 Feb 06 - 04:38 PM

Muttley, I actually don't really know what it was about Great Uncle Walter. He was my Grandmother's brother. I was doing family research when I found him. In the few photos I have of him he's got a silly sort of grin. I found a few letters that mentioned him. They contained phrases like, "Walter is doing quite well and he's very happy." A daughter of another of his sisters told me he was always wandering off in the bush and coming back tattered. (Not actually with bear-hairs perhaps). She said children just adored him. When my grandmother had a baby, in her nearby home, Great Uncle Walter was sent to register her. There are several very obvious mistakes on the certificate. He may have just been a bit "slow" - as they would have put it. Or - there is mention that he suffered epileptic fits. I've wondered if he wandered off after those - possibly in a confused state. He never married and died young - in his 30s. Not much evidence I grant you, but along with the name, it's enough for me to attach "Waltzing with Bears" to him.
Cheers, Joy

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 10 Feb 06 - 03:05 PM

Metchosin: I must admit that that area of Paris holds a special magic for me. There is an interesting novel called "Springtime in Paris" ( publ. 1951) which is set in and around the Rue de la Huchette. A narrow street full of eating places, clubs and shops, which runs into Boulevard St. Michel near Place St.Michel.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Metchosin
Date: 10 Feb 06 - 12:18 PM

Tunesmith, same here, but not because of the song, although I thought of it at the time. I stayed at wonderfully romantic, grungy low rent place, called the (Hotel Le Suede?) on the Boulevard Saint-Michel near Place (Pigalle?) with a view of the Seine and Nortre Dame.

I did so, at the specific request of an old boss, who asked when I got there, if I would go to Notre Dame and ask the nuns on the right (as opposed to the nuns on the left) to light candles for his daughter who had died or been killed when very young.

It always seemed a very enigmatic request and because of the quirkiness of the song as well, the two have always been linked in my mind.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 10 Feb 06 - 12:13 PM

Of course, Sophia Loren's younger years could still have been the inspiration or jumping off point - for the creation of the song. Don't forget the old adage about " not letting the truth [ i.e. certain facts] get in the way of a good story.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Teribus
Date: 10 Feb 06 - 10:25 AM

GUEST,Tunesmith - 10 Feb 06 - 08:16 AM

Thanks very much for posting the 'censored' verse, I mentioned it's existance quite a distance up the thread and was hoping that someone would come up with it.

Like Snuffy I looked up Sophia Loren's web-site and thought that this verse discounts her as being the subject of the song.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Snuffy
Date: 10 Feb 06 - 09:22 AM

So that verse would seem to rule out Sophia Loren on chronological grounds? As she was born 20/09/34 she'd be 35 when the song came out.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 10 Feb 06 - 08:16 AM

Muttley: The "uncensored" version of the song - with the extra verse -appeared on Peter's first album. As far as my memory will allow, here is the complete verse:-

          "You are in between 20 and 30,
            a very desireable age,
            your body is firm and inviting,
            and you live on a glittering stage"

p.s. I don't mind admitting that I loved the song, and the first time I visited Paris ( a wonderful place), I headed down to take a look at the Boulevard Saint-Michel.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Muttley
Date: 10 Feb 06 - 01:11 AM

Peace and alanabit - STOP IT - YOU'LL GO BLIND !!!!!

You're both just being cruel and unusual now.

However questions to "GUEST:Tunesmith", "Cool Beans" and "Joybell"

Tunesmith - haven't heard that verse - can you p[ost it in it's entirety and indicate where in the song it is sung, please?

Cool Beans: Why does your wife think "Waltzing With Bears" is about Alzheimer's Disease?

and

Joybell: Would you mind sharing with us why your 'Uncle Walter was so special.

Muttley

Subject: Lyr Add: CONVOY (C. W. McCall)
From: Peace
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 08:08 PM

Convoy

By Bill Fries & Chip Davis

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Uh, Breaker One-Nine, this here's the Rubber Duck
You got a copy on me Pig-Pen? C'mon

Uh, yeah 10-4 Pig Pen, fer sure, fer sure
By golly it's clean clear to Flag-Town, C'mon

Uh, yeah, that's a big 10-4 Pig-Pen,
Yeah, we definitely got us the front door good buddy,
Mercy sakes alive, looks like we got us a convoy

Was the dark of the moon, on the sixth of June
In a Kenworth, pullin' logs
Cabover Pete with a reefer on
And a Jimmy haulin' hogs
We 'as headin' fer bear on I-One-Oh
'Bout a mile outta Shaky-Town
I sez Pig-Pen, this here's the Rubber Duck
An' I'm about to put the hammer on down

Cause we gotta little ol' convoy, rockin' through the night
Yeah we gotta little ol' convoy, ain't she a beautiful sight?
Come on an' join our convoy, ain't nothin' gonna git in our way
We're gonna roll this truckin' convoy, cross the USA
Convoy... Convoy...

Uh, breaker Pig-Pen, this here's The Duck
Uh, you wanna back off them hogs
10-4, 'bout five mile or so, 10-roger
Them hogs is gittin' in-tense up here

By the time we got into Tulsa-Town
We had eighty-five trucks in all
But they's a road block up on the clover leaf
An' them bears 'as wall to wall
Yeah them smokies 'as thick as bugs on a bumper
They even had a bear-in-the-air
I sez callin' all trucks, this here's The Duck
We about to go a huntin' bear

Cause we gotta great big convoy, rockin' through the night
Yeah we gotta great big convoy, ain't she a beautiful sight?
Come on an' join our convoy, ain't nothin' gonna git in our way
We're gonna roll this truckin' convoy, cross the USA
Convoy... Convoy...

Uh, you wanna give me a 10-9 on that Pig-Pen?
Uh, negatory Pig-Pen, yer still too close
Yeah, them hogs is startin' close up my sinuses
Mercy sakes, you better back off another ten

Well we rolled up interstate fourty-four
Like a rocket sled on rails
We tore up all a our swindle sheets
An' left 'em settin' on the scales
By the time we hit that Chi-Town
Them bears was a gittin' smart
They'd brought up some reinforcements
From the Illinois National Guard
There 'as armored cars, and tanks, and Jeeps
An' rigs of every size
Yeah them chicken coops 'as full a bears
An' choppers filled the skies
Well we shot the line, an' we went for broke
With a thousand screamin' trucks
And eleven long-haired friends of Jesus
In a chartreusse microbus

Hey Sod Buster, listen
You wanna put that microbus in behind the suicide jockey?
Yeah, he's haulin dynamite
He needs all the help he can git

Well we laid a strip fer the Jersey Shore
An' prepared to cross the line
I could see the bridge 'as lined with bears
But I didn't have a doggone dime
I sez Pig-Pen, this here's the Rubber Duck
We just ain't a gonna pay no toll
So we crashed the gate doin' ninety-eight
I sez, let them truckers roll, 10-4

Cause we gotta mighty convoy, rockin' through the night
Yeah we gotta mighty convoy, ain't she a beautiful sight?
Come on an' join our convoy, ain't nothin' gonna git in our way
We're gonna roll this truckin' convoy, cross the USA
Convoy... Convoy...

Uh, 10-4 Pig-Pen, what's yer 20?
Omaha?!
Well they oughta know what to do with them hogs out there fer sure
Well mercy sakes alive good buddy
We gonna back on outta here
So keep the bugs off yer glass
An' the bears off yer... tail
We gonna catch ya on the flip-flop
This here's the Rubber Duck on the side
We gone
Bye, Bye...

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Compton
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 08:00 PM

Je regret...le Sasha Distel, Il est mort. and not a bad player of the hot guitar either. i believe he used to do a bit with Stephan Grappelli.
What he was doing to end up in a bloody awful song like Where do you go to, my lovely?..God only knows.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Joybell
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 04:43 PM

It's about my strange, but somehow beautiful, Great Uncle Walter. I don't know where he found bears in Australia but I believe he did. He lived at a time way before the song was written but that's a small point - It COULD have been written about him. I like to sing it at Cornish festivals because everyone has a strange, but somehow beautiful, Uncle Walter somewhere on their family tree. Cheers, Joy

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Cool Beans
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 12:05 PM

Another contrarian view:
I like "Waltzing with Bears." My wife, a psychotherapist, believes it's about man who has Alzheimer's disease. Puts a whole new spin on it, no?

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: alanabit
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 07:30 AM

Exciting days, weren't they?
"Sexual intercourse began in nineteen sixty three
(Which was a little late for me)
Between the end of the Chatterly ban
And the Beatles first LP..."

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 05:46 AM

Back to the theme of the topic! Interestingly, Sacha Distel was just an obscure ex-boyfiend of Brigitte Bardot when the song came out. Later, of course, he became quite a big star in the UK. Was he known in the States? Secondly, there is an extra verse to the song which was censored from the single version but appeared on the album. The offending lyrics icluded the line " your body is firm and inviting". Hot stuff for 1969!

Subject: Lyr Add: CHIRPY CHIRPY CHEEP CHEEP
From: alanabit
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 01:50 AM

This thing was number one for weeks on end in the seventies:

CHIRPY CHIRPY CHEEP CHEEP
Mac & Katie Kissoon

Where's your momma gone
(Where's your momma gone)
Little baby bird
(Little baby bird)
Where's your momma gone
(Where's your momma gone)
Far far away far far awayayay...

REFRAIN

Last night I heard my momma singing this song
Ooh wee chirpy chirpy cheep cheep
Woke up this morning and my momma was gone
Ooh wee chirpy chirpy cheep cheep
Chirpy chirpy cheep cheep chirp

Where's your momma gone
(Where's your momma gone)
Little baby bird
(Little baby bird)
Where's your momma gone
(Where's your momma gone)
Far far away
Where's your poppa gone
(Where's your poppa gone)
Little baby bird
(Little baby bird)
Where's your poppa gone
(Where's your poppa gone)
Far far away far far awayayay...

REFRAIN

REPEAT REFAIN

REPEAT REFRAIN AGAIN

Where's your momma gone
(Where's your momma gone)
Little baby bird
(Little baby bird)
Where's your momma gone
(Where's your momma gone)
Far far away

[begin fading]
Where's your poppa gone
(Where's your poppa gone)
Little baby bird
(Little baby bird)
Where's...

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 12:36 AM

Like someone here said, and I concur, "Daisy A Day" was a very good song. Sseveral other songs by Jud Strunk were just fine also. He had a pleasant voice as well.

Art

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Muttley
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 12:32 AM

I happen to like Green Green Grass of Home - it's sickly sweet, yeah! I'll grant that but at least it's got a LITTLE bit of genuine pathos - if you want truly regurgative prison fare - Yellow Ribbon was a stinker that has become ridiculously cliched by the number of times captives of any sort receive homecomings to gazillions of yellow ribbons tied around anything upright - - - including the welcoming committee!

And as for this thread being ridiculous - I humbly beg to differ - no, screw it - You're wrong - it's not ridiculous it's a lot of fun.
If the truth be told, once upon a time we probably secretly LIKED all those songs that now make us nauseated - that's half the fun of it (OK - Achy Breaky Heart was never loved by ANYone - - - - - EVER - except mabe Billy Ray Cyrus; and with a name like that he deserved to like it)

Mutt

Subject: Lyr Add: FOOLED AROUND AND FELL IN LOVE
From: michaelr
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 07:54 PM

Aw shucks, I like "Total Eclipse..."
How's this:

Fooled Around And Fell In Love
Elvin Bishop

I must've been through about a million girls
I love 'em and I leave 'em alone
I didn't care how much they cried, on sir
Their tears left me cold as a stone

*But then I fooled around and fell in love
I fooled around and fell in love
I fooled around and fell in love
I fooled around and fell in love

Used to feel that I'd see the girl that I like
I fill in my book and I write down her name
The grass got a little greener on the other side
I just tear off a page, hey...

(Repeat *)

Free on my own
That's the way I used to be
Oh since I met you baby
Love got a hold of me

(Repeat *)

Cheers,
Michael (who also likes the song that started this thread)

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: number 6
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 07:32 PM

I'll mention this song once again in the Mudcat.

"Down the lane I walk with my sweet Mary, hair of gold and lips like cherries.
It's good to touch the green, green grass of home.
Yes, they'll all come to meet me, arms reaching, smiling sweetly.
It's good to touch the green, green grass of home."

That song, specifically that verse, is just as ridiculus as this thread!!

sIx

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Joybell
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 05:29 PM

Hey wait a minute! Wolverton Mountain!
I love that one! I like to stop after the line about the bears and the birds telling Clifton Clowers that someone's coming and give a little demonstration.
Think about it.
You can use mime. That's the obvious because it gets past the language translation problem.
Or
Bear: GRRRRRRR! Wooof. GRR GRR!
Clowers: What's that? A stranger you say?
Bear: GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
Clowers: I surely am glad I've got you to warn me!
Bird: Tweeeeeeeeeeet!
Clowers: Coming to get my daughter? We'll have to see about that!
Bird: TWEEEEEEEEEEEEET!
Clowers: My gun! Thanks bird.

Cheers, Joy

Subject: Lyr Add: SUGAR SUGAR (The Archies)
From: alanabit
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 08:25 AM

For all you horrid people who have done that to my digestion, here is alanabit's revenge!

Sugar Sugar - The Archies

Sugar, ah honey honey
You are my candy girl
And you've got me wanting you.
Honey, ah sugar sugar
You are my candy girl
And you've got me wanting you.
I just can't believe the loveliness of loving you
(I just can't believe it's true)
I just can't believe the one to love this feeling to.
(I just can't believe it's true)
Ah sugar, ah honey honey
You are my candy girl
And you've got me wanting you.
Ah honey, ah sugar sugar
You are my candy girl
And you've got me wanting you.
When I kissed you, girl, I knew how sweet a kiss could be
(I know how sweet a kiss can be)
Like the summer sunshine pour your sweetness over me
(Pour your sweetness over me)
Sugar, pour a little sugar on it honey,
Pour a little sugar on it baby
I'm gonna make your life so sweet, yeah yeah yeah
Pour a little sugar on it oh yeah
Pour a little sugar on it honey,
Pour a little sugar on it baby
I'm gonna make your life so sweet, yeah yeah yeah
Pour a little sugar on it honey,
Ah sugar, ah honey honey
You are my candy girl
And you've got me wanting you.
Oh honey, honey, sugar sugar ..
You are my candy girl ..

Subject: Lyr Add: TOTAL ECLIPSE OF THE HEART (Bonnie Tyler)
From: JennyO
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 08:10 AM

All right - take THIS!

TOTAL ECLIPSE OF THE HEART (Bonnie Tyler )

Turnaround, every now and then I get a
little bit lonely and you're never coming around
Turnaround, Every now and then I get a
little bit tired of listening to the sound of my tears
Turnaround, Every now and then I get a
little bit nervous that the best of all the years have gone by
Turnaround, Every now and then I get a
little bit terrified and then I see the look in your eyes
Turnaround bright eyes, Every now and
then I fall apart
Turnaround bright eyes, Every now and
then I fall apart

Turnaround, Every now and then I get a
little bit restless and I dream of something wild
Turnaround, Every now and then I get a
little bit helpless and I'm lying like a child in your arms
Turnaround, Every now and then I get a
little bit angry and I know I've got to get out and cry
Turnaround, Every now and then I get a
little bit terrified but then I see the look in your eyes
Turnaround bright eyes, Every now and
then I fall apart
Turnaround bright eyes, Every now and
then I fall apart

And I need you now tonight
And I need you more than ever
And if you'll only hold me tight
We'll be holding on forever
And we'll only be making it right
Cause we'll never be wrong together
We can take it to the end of the line
Your love is like a shadow on me all of the time
I don't know what to do and I'm always in the dark
We're living in a powder keg and giving off sparks
I really need you tonight
Forever's gonna start tonight
Forever's gonna start tonight

Once upon a time I was falling in love
But now I'm only falling apart
There's nothing I can do
A total eclipse of the heart
Once upon a time there was light in my life
But now there's only love in the dark
Nothing I can say
A total eclipse of the heart

Turnaround bright eyes
Turnaround bright eyes
Turnaround, every now and then I know
you'll never be the boy you always you wanted to be
Turnaround, every now and then I know
you'll always be the only boy who wanted me the way that I am
Turnaround, every now and then I know
there's no one in the universe as magical and wonderous as you
Turnaround, every now and then I know
there's nothing any better and there's nothing I just wouldn't do
Turnaround bright eyes, Every now and
then I fall apart
Turnaround bright eyes, Every now and
then I fall apart

And I need you now tonight
And I need you more than ever
And if you'll only hold me tight
We'll be holding on forever
And we'll only be making it right
Cause we'll never be wrong together
We can take it to the end of the line
Your love is like a shadow on me all of the time
I don't know what to do and I'm always in the dark
We're living in a powder keg and giving off sparks
I really need you tonight
Forever's gonna start tonight
Forever's gonna start tonight

Once upon a time I was falling in love
But now I'm only falling apart
There's nothing I can do
A total eclipse of the heart
Once upon a time there was light in my life
But now there's only love in the dark
Nothing I can say
A total eclipse of the heart

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: fat B****rd
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 08:09 AM

Peace and co. you chaps are really stretching one's credibility. What about Mark Dinning's "Teen Angel" and Rolf's p*** take "Tame Eagle"
And BTW what was that one about Teddy Bear and truckers and CBs etc ??

Subject: Lyr Add: WOLVERTON MOUNTAIN (Claude King)
From: bobad
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 07:16 AM

Here's another that deserves a spot in the pantheon of dyspepsia.

Wolverton Mountain
Claude King

They say don't go on Wolverton Mountain,
if you're looking for a wife.
'Cause Clifton Clowers has a pretty
young daughter,
he's mighty handy with a gun and a knife.

Her tender lips are sweeter than honey
And Wolverton Mountain protects her there.
The bears and birds tell Clifton Clowers
If a stranger should wander there.

All of my dreams are on Wolverton Mountain.
I want his daughter for my wife.
I'll take my chances and climb that mountain
Though Clilfton Clowers, he may take my life


Her tender lips ....

I'm going up on Wolverton Mountain,
It's too lonely downhere below.
It's just not right to hide his daughter
From the one who loves her so.

Her tender lips ...

But I don't care about Clifton Clowers,
I'm gonna climb up on his mountain,
I'm gonna take the girl I love.
I don't care about Clifton Clowers,
I'm gonna climb up on his mountain,
I'm gonna take the girl I love.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Muttley
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 06:22 AM

Wiggle Wiggle?

Hell he probably stole the words to that one - - - Wiggle has two syllables and Dylan ain't that smart.

But i think "Tell Laura I Love Her" is probably up there with some of the nasties 'Peace' has offered us.

BTW -I don't suppose "Leader of the Pack" qualifies, does it? HELL! Of COURSE it does eeeewwwww!

Muttley

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST,Bill the Collie
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 02:39 AM

I thought it were 'bout drugs

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST,Raven's Wing
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 02:38 AM

I'm not sure if this fits in here. It's a completely different kind of song from those others. But it is unusual.

WIGGLE WIGGLE   (Bob Dylan)

Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a gypsy queen,
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle all dressed in green,
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle 'til the moon is blue,
Wiggle 'til the moon sees you.
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle in your boots and shoes,
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, you got nothing to lose,
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, like a swarm of bees,
Wiggle on your hands and knees.
Wiggle to the front, wiggle to the rear,
Wiggle 'til you wiggle right out of here,
Wiggle 'til it opens, wiggle 'til it shuts,
Wiggle 'til it bites, wiggle 'til it cuts.
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a bowl of soup,
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a rolling hoop,
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a ton of lead,
Wiggle - you can raise the dead.
Wiggle 'til you're high, wiggle 'til you're higher,
Wiggle 'til you vomit fire,
Wiggle 'til it whispers, wiggle 'til it hums,
Wiggle 'til it answers, wiggle 'til it comes.
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like satin and silk,
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a pail of milk,
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, rattle and shake,
Wiggle like a big fat snake.



I wonder what Bob had on his mind? Maybe it's about Jim Bakker or something.

Subject: Lyr Add: TELL LAURA I LOVE HER (Ray Peterson)
From: Metchosin
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 02:26 AM

or.........

TELL LAURA I LOVE HER
Ray Peterson

Laura and Tommy were lovers
He wanted to give her everything
Flowers, presents and most of all, a wedding ring
He saw a sign for a stock car race
A thousand dollar prize it read
He couldn't get Laura on the phone
So to her mother Tommy said

Tell Laura I love her, tell Laura I need her
Tell Laura I may be late
I've something to do, that cannot wait

He drove his car to the racing grounds
He was the youngest driver there
The crowed roared as they started the race
'Round the track they drove at a deadly pace
No one knows what happened that day
How his car overturned in flames
But as they pulled him from the twisted wreck
With his dying breath, they heard him say

Tell Laura I love her, tell Laura I need her
Tell Laura not to cry
My love for her will never die

And in the chapel where Laura prays
For Tommy who passed away
It was just for Laura he lived and died
Alone in the chapel she can hear him cry

Tell Laura I love her, tell Laura I need her
Tell Laura not to cry
My love for her will never die
Tell Laura I love her.....

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Muttley
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 02:17 AM

Peace - you've had us all fooled. . . . . you are a cruel, twisted, evil and nasty piece of work - - - you're also now my hero; how do i learn to get THAT evil? I mean I thought I was pretty good at it but man YOU have raised this to an ART FORM !!!!!

Honey, Nobody's Child, Patches, Hey Paul; Hey Paula, Yummy Yummy Yummy AND Don't Worry - Be Happy.

They are evil on SOOOOOOOOOOOOO many levels - - - ALL of them !!!

However, I must display a slice of my own (likely) bad taste - I actually rather like the sentiments expressed in "Daisy a Day" - the words are a bit mawkish at times, but the sentiment is beautiful: I'm reminded of a far better song in a similar vein by Australia's John Williamson called "Wrinkles".

Second 'Bad Taste' point: Kenny Rogers "Ruby": I love this song (sorry Jenny O) while I sympathise with your torturous experiences I love this song for two reasons:
My all time favourite student while teaching at a boarding school (polite, charming, hard worker, articulate for someone whose second language was English, reasonably pretty) was named Ruby. One day she began 'wilting' in class and complaining of a headache. I asked for her to be taken into town to the doctor and checked up, but the principal over-ruled me and out her to bed because she "had 'flu" - 'flu had been running through the community. Next morning she was dead. Bacterial Meningitis.
My other reason is because for ten years I was 'Padre' (chaplain) to the Vietnam Veterans Motorcycle Club here in Australia - an honour I shall treasure always - and those boys helped me to understand the frustrations and hurts of being a 'Vet'

HOWEVER - back to the really bad songs - especially mawky ones: You can't bring up all these 'stinkers' and NOT add in "The Son of Hickory Hollis' Tramp"

And if were gonna completely gross out the readers and cite "Don't Worry Be Happy" then I have just three words for y'all:

"ACHY BREAKY HEART"

Muttley

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: alison
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 12:11 AM

Hello this is Joanie,
I'm sorry but I'm not home,
But if you leave me your name and number
I promise soon as I get in I'll phone.........

or...................

Hey baby I'm your telephone man,
won't you tell me where you want it and I'll put it where I can
you can have it with a buzz, you can have it with a ring,
and if you really want it you can have a ding-a-ling
because, Hey baby I'm your telephone man


slainte

alison

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Feb 06 - 11:50 PM

There were two people who used to inflict "Waltzing With Bears" on our weekly song circle in Orillia, Art. They have not done so in some time now, thank God.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 04 Feb 06 - 11:01 PM

Folks, I'm glad to be able to truthfully say that I missed 95% of those songs you all seem to know.

(I guess that's just one of the many perks of being into trad folk! ;-)

But you have missed the absolute worst, saccharine, treacly, and unabashedly dumb song of all. I say that BECAUSE it was taken to heart by so many folkies who certainly should've known better!! ---

I am, of course, talking about the completely insipid song that led the way from the languid old folk era when urban navel-gazing singer/songwriters, writing about love on the school bus and other aspects of pimply infatuation angst, were few and far between---.

The song I am thinking about, even though thoughts of it sicken me to the point of losing my lunch, got grown men to go beating their drums (among other things) out in the woods with Robert Bly. Clutching their new copy of "Iron John" (among other things), they pranced around like wanna-be ballerina Neanderthals and sang the national anthem of the biological-orientation-and-animal husbandry movement:
Wa wa wa waltzing---"waltzing with bears"
My uncle Walter goes "waltzing with bears"...

Sadly, I fear I need say no more!!!!! But this song (and armies made up of, unbelievably, ALL VOLUNTEERS), is what folks mean when they talk about how the world is dumbing down !!! It does leave one nostalgic for the Viet Nam era. -- Back then we at least knew enough NOT to go!

Art

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Feb 06 - 09:39 PM

Available here.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Shields Folk
Date: 04 Feb 06 - 04:30 PM

Anyway.....back to Sarstedt.
Can anyone else remember the Peter Sarstedt song Beirut.
The few lines I remember go...
"In Beirut last night young men spoiling for a fight
Down by the Casino.."
and
"And there stood I the complete anti hero,
There stood I completley alone..."
It was about the civil war in Lebanon and I have NEVER met anyone else who has heard of it!

Subject: Lyr Add: DON'T WORRY BE HAPPY (Bobby McFerrin)
From: Peace
Date: 04 Feb 06 - 04:24 PM

DON'T WORRY, BE HAPPY
Bobby McFerrin
Written by Bobby McFerrin

- released July 1988
- reached #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 in 1989
- featured in the movie "Cocktail" starring Tom Cruise

Here's a little song I wrote
You might want to sing it note-for-note
Don't worry, be happy
In every life we have some trouble
But when you worry, you make it double
Don't worry, be happy Don't worry, be happy now

Ooo-oo-hoo-hoo-oo hoo-hoo-oo-oo-oo-oo-ooo Don't worry
Woo-oo-woo-oo-woo-oo-ooo Be happy
Woo-oo-oo-oo-ooo Don't worry, be happy

Ooo-oo-hoo-hoo-oo hoo-hoo-oo-oo-oo-oo-ooo Don't worry
Woo-oo-woo-oo-oo-oo-ooo Be happy
Woo-oo-woo-oo-ooo Don't worry, be happy

Ain't got no place to lay your head
Somebody came and took your bed
Don't worry, be happy
The landlord say your rent is late
He may have to litigate
Don't worry, (ha-ha ha-ha ha-ha) be happy (look at me, I'm happy)

Ooo-oo-hoo-hoo-oo oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-ooo Don't worry
Oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-ooo Be happy
Oo-oo-oo-oo-ooo (Here, I'll give you my phone number. When you're
worried, call me. I'll make you happy.)
Ooo-oo-hoo-hoo-oo oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-ooo Don't worry
Woo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo Be happy
Woo-oo-oo-oo-ooo

Ain't got no cash, ain't got no style
Ain't got no gal to make you smile
But don't worry, be happy
'Cause when you're worried, your face will frown
And that will bring everybody down
So don't worry, be happy Don't worry, be happy now

Ooo-oo-hoo-oo-oo oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-ooo Don't worry
Oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-ooo Be happy
Woo-oo-oo-oo-ooo Don't worry, be happy

Ooo-oo-oo-oo-oo oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-ooo Don't worry
Woo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo Be happy
Woo-oo-oo-oo-ooo Don't worry, be happy

Now there, is this song I wrote
I hope you learned it note-for-note, like good little children
Don't worry, be happy
A-listen to a-what I say
In your life, expect some trouble
When you worry you make it double
Don't worry, be happy, be happy now

Ooo-oo-hoo-hoo-oo oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-ooo Don't worry
Oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-ooo Be happy
Oo-oo-oo-oo-ooo Don't worry, be happy

Ooo-oo-hoo-oo-oo oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-ooo Don't worry
Woo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-ooo Be happy
Woo-oo-oo-oo-ooo Don't worry, be happy

Ooo-oo-hoo-oo-oo oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-ooo Don't worry, don't worry
Oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-ooo Don't do it, be happy
Oo-oo-oo-oo-ooo Put a smile on your face
Don't bring everybody down like
this
Ooo-oo-hoo-hoo-oo oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-ooo Don't worry
Ooo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo It will soon pass, whatever it
is
Ooo-oo-oo-oo-ooo Don't worry, be happy

(fading...)
Ooo-oo-hoo-hoo-oo oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-ooo I'm not worried
Ooo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo I'm happy
Ooo-oo-oo-oo-ooo

Subject: Lyr Add: YUMMY YUMMY YUMMY
From: Peace
Date: 04 Feb 06 - 04:15 PM

Artist: 1910 Fruitgum Company Lyrics
Song: Yummy, Yummy, Yummy Lyrics

Yummy, Yummy, Yummy.
I got love in my tummy,
And I feel like a-lovin you:
Love, you're such a sweet thing,
Good enough to eat thing
And that's just a-what I'm gonna do.
Ooh love, to hold ya,
Ooh love, to kiss ya,
Ooh love, I love it so.
Ooh love, you're sweeter,
Sweeter than sugar.
Ooh love, I wont let you go.

Yummy, Yummy, Yummy,
I got love in my tummy,
And as silly as it may seem;
The lovin' that you re giving,
is what keeps me livin'
And your love is like
Peaches and cream.
Kind-a like sugar,
Kind-a like spices,
Kind-a like, like what you do.
Kind-a sounds funny.
But love,honey
Honey. I love you.

Yummy, Yummy, Yummy,
I. got love in my tummy,
That your love can satisfy;
Love, you're such a sweet thing,
Good enough to eat thing
And sweet thing, that ain't no lie.
I love to hold ya,
Oh love, to kiss ya,
Ooh love, I love it so.
Ooh love, you're sweeter,
Sweeter than sugar.
Ooh love, I won't let you go.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: gnu
Date: 04 Feb 06 - 04:10 PM

Oh good Lord Sufferin!!! Why did I open this thread again? Havin my baby? He should not be allowed to reproduce after that one.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Feb 06 - 03:41 PM

No....! No.....! No.....!

(the slow descent into madness)

Subject: Lyr Add: (YOU'RE) HAVING MY BABY (Paul Anka)
From: bobad
Date: 04 Feb 06 - 02:46 PM

Peace, that reminded me of this one - thanks a lot.

        Paul Anka
Title         Having my baby
Lyrictext         Having my baby
what a lovely way of saying
How much you love me.
Having my baby
what a lovely way of saying
What you're thinking of me.
I can see it your face is glowing

I can see it in your eyes.
I'm happy knowin' that you're having my baby.
You're the woman I love and I love what it's doin' to you.
Having my baby
you're a woman in love and I love
What's goin' through you.
The need inside you
I see it showin'
Oh
the seed inside you
baby
do you feel it growin'
Are you happy in knowin' that you're having my baby?

I'm a woman in love and I love
What it's doin' to me.
Having my baby.
I'm a woman in love and I love
What's goin' through me.

Didn't have to keep it
wouldn't put you through it.
You could have swept it from your life
But you wouldn't do it
no
you wouldn't do it.
And you're having my baby.

I'm a woman in love and I love

Subject: Lyr Add: HEY PAULA
From: Peace
Date: 04 Feb 06 - 02:40 PM

[Paul:]
Hey, hey Paula, I wanna marry you
Hey, hey Paula, no one else will ever do
I've waited so long for school to be through
Paula, I can't wait no more for you
My love, my love

[Paula:]
Hey Paul, I've been waiting for you
Hey, hey, hey Paul, I want to marry you too
If you love me true, if you love me still
Our love will always be real
My love, my love

[Both:]
True love means planning a life for two
Being together the whole day through
True love means waiting and hoping that soon
Wishes we've made will come true
My love, my love


Play it loud and see if the dog howls . . . .

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Joybell
Date: 03 Feb 06 - 04:34 PM

I remember that one too Snuffy.

As to the song that started all this. Back in the early 70s I was in a big Melbourne music shop one day. They used to sell everything from pianos to sheet-music. In the basement you could browse through the sheet-music collection and then order the stuff you wanted by writing it on an order form on the counter. A shop assistant would get your music from behind the scenes somewhere and call out the name. This particular day the place was packed. Lunch hour I think. A young man, behind the counter, called out, "Where do you go to my Lovely?"
"Over here, Darling! Over here!" came the sultry reply from another young man dressed in a very straight business-type suit. This was MELBOURNE remember. The silence hit like a sledge hammer. Wonderful.
Cheers, Joy

Subject: Lyr Add: TO ALL THE GIRLS I'VE LOVED BEFORE
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 03 Feb 06 - 01:53 PM

Ho-lee....FLIP! Watta bunch of cruddy songs, eh?

Okay, here's one for ya:

To all the girls I've loved before
Who travelled in and out my door
I'm glad they came along
I dedicate this song
To all the girls I've loved before

To all the girls I once caressed
And may I say I've held the best
For helping me to grow
I owe a lot I know
To all the girls I've loved before

The winds of change are always blowing
And every time I try to stay
The winds of change continue blowing
And they just carry me away

To all the girls who shared my life
Who now are someone else's wives
I'm glad they came along
I dedicate this song
To all the girls I've loved before

To all the girls who cared for me
Who filled my nights with ecstasy
They live within my heart
I'll always be a part
Of all the girls I've loved before

The winds of change are always blowing
And every time I try to stay
The winds of change continue blowing
And they just carry me away

To all the girls we've loved before
Who travelled in and out our doors
We're glad they came along
We dedicate this song
To all the girls we've loved before

To all the girls we've loved before
Who travelled in and out our doors
We're glad they came along
We dedicate this song
To all the girls we've loved before


YEEEEE-HAAAAAAAAAAAA! Pretty flippin' deadly, eh?

- Shane

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Metchosin
Date: 03 Feb 06 - 01:44 PM

What? You mean all those beautiful, perky, young bits of fluff are not lusting for sex with them, alanbit? Could it be something else? LOL

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: alanabit
Date: 03 Feb 06 - 01:09 PM

Many men who attain wealth and fame also have to sell their body and soul too. Unfortunately for them, this does not necessarily involve being wanted for sex!

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Metchosin
Date: 03 Feb 06 - 10:58 AM

Its also interesting that a rags to riches senario is quite often considered something to be admired in the life of a man, but is often thought to be questionable, if the same occurs to a woman. There's this underling thought that she probably sold her body and soul to attain status and an assumption that she could not possibly be content or happy....hmmm....

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Metchosin
Date: 03 Feb 06 - 10:41 AM

I liked this song. Probably because I considered it really quirky and it did make me wonder ....How do you sip Napolean brandy without getting you lips wet? Seems to me I even tried, but found the only way I could do it was sucking it back from the bottle.

Do you think that she, whoever she was, upon departing his Taxi, would have told Harry to keep the change too?

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Snuffy
Date: 03 Feb 06 - 09:18 AM

Joy, that put me in mind of one from Australia's own Shirley Abicair:

Little boy fishing off a wooden pier
Come fish, bite fish, swim along here ...

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Joybell
Date: 03 Feb 06 - 07:08 AM

OK
Barefoot boy standing by the roadside
Barefoot boy when you say hello
With eyes that shine
And lips that bring forth laughter
Barefoot boy I love you so.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: alanabit
Date: 03 Feb 06 - 06:28 AM

We have done this subject before on the "Worst Pop Song Ever" threads. No harm in bringing it back again though!
The teenage wedding day aligned to a car crash/motorcyle accident/air disaster/shark attack, was a popular genre in the sixties. "Leader of the Pack" and "Ebony Eyes" are two spectacularly awful examples of that. "Tell Laura I Love Her" is another. It takes a strong man not to laugh at the end of that one. With my advandcing years, I am developing a soft spot for them. It is more a,"So bad they are funny," sort of feeling.
Joe Offer and others provided convincing argument that "Feelings", that gruesome offering from Maurice Albert, was an unsurpassable atrocity. I think I have heard worse somewhere, but mercifully, that songwriter (rest his soul) never got on the radio.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: menzze
Date: 03 Feb 06 - 05:35 AM

sorry , my fault, got my coockie resetted and the "guest" question is answered

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Jeanie
Date: 03 Feb 06 - 05:33 AM

Mystery Guest - yes, that's the one ! Thanks a million, whoever you are !

- jeanie

Subject: Lyr Add: TERRY (Twinkle)
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Feb 06 - 05:26 AM

Jeanie, you're not speaking of this one , do ya?

He said to me he wanted to be near to me
He said he never wanted to be out of my sight
But it's too late to give this boy my love tonight
Please wait at the gate of heaven for me, Terry.

He said to me he wanted to be close by my side
We had a quarrel, I was untrue on the night he died
And it's too late to tell this boy how great was
Please wait at the gate of heaven for me, Terry.

He rode into the night, accelerated his motorbike
I cried to him in fright, don't do it, don't do it, don.t do it.

He said to me you are the one I want to be with
He said to me you are the one who my love I shall give
One day he'll know how hard I prayed for him to live
Please wait at the gate of heaven for me, Terry.

He rode into the night, accelerated his motorbike
I cried to him in fright, don't do it, don't do it, don.t do it.

He said to me you are the one I want to be with
He said to me you are the one who my love I shall give
One day he'll know how hard I prayed for him to live
Please wait at the gate of heaven for me, Terry.

Terry, Terry, Terry


By the way, you can find it HERE


I wonder why I appear as guest, maybe my cookie is gone

Subject: Lyr Add: JODY AND THE KID (Kris Kristofferson)
From: GUEST,menzze
Date: 03 Feb 06 - 05:06 AM

Thought this might also fit into your sentimental journey

Kris Kristofferson: Jody and the Kid

She would meet me in the morning
On my way down to the river
Waiting patient by the chinaberry tree
With her feet already dusty
>From the pathway to the levy
And her little blue jeans rolled up to her knees

I'd pay her no attention
As she tagged along beside me
Trying hard to copy everything I did
But I couldn't keep from smiling
When I'd hear somebody saying
Looky yonder there goes Jody and the kid

Even after we grew older
We could still be seen together
As we walked along the levy holding hands
For as surely as the season she was changin' to a woman
And I'd lived enough to call myself a man

And she often lay beside me
In the coolness of the evening
Til' the morning sun was shining on my bed
And at times when she was sleeping
I'd smile when I'd remember
How they use to call us Jody and the kid

Now the world's a little older
And the years have changed the river
Cause there's houses where they didn't used to be
And on Sundays I go walking
Down the pathway to the levy
With another little girl who follows me

And it makes the old folks smile
To see her tag along beside me
Doing little things the way her mama did
But it gets a little lonesome
When I hear somebody sayin'
Looky yonder there goes Jody and the kid

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Jeanie
Date: 03 Feb 06 - 05:01 AM

Here's worse: "Terry" by Twinkle, January 1965. It was so bad, it was banned by the BBC. So bad, indeed, that so far I haven't been able to find the lyrics anywhere on the internet. Does anyone else remember that one ? (about a motor cycle accident).

- jeanie

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Jeanie
Date: 03 Feb 06 - 04:36 AM

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeek, Peace, No, No, No, not "Honey ! NO !
I was trying to spare these good people from that particular horror (see my post of 31st Jan).

Just you wait, Peace,.... I'll be back now, with worse.

- jeanie

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Joybell
Date: 02 Feb 06 - 11:01 PM

AH! Snuffy, Peace. I knew I could count on you too. OK so! Bet you've never sung -

Barefoot boy waiting by the roadside
Barefoot boy with your ...something something
Barefoot boy ...something something something
Barefoot boy I love you so.

Well I used to know it. Hooray!! I've forgotten!!!
Cheers, Joy

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Peace
Date: 02 Feb 06 - 10:20 PM

That was from Kenny Rogers and the First Edition.

Subject: Lyr Add: RUBY DON'T TAKE YOUR LOVE TO TOWN
From: JennyO
Date: 02 Feb 06 - 08:52 PM

Oh no - you people are making me think about some of the horrors I had almost forgotten! This one gives me the shudders - my ex-husband used to sing it AT me...


RUBY, DON'T TAKE YOUR LOVE TO TOWN
Words and music by Mel Tillis
As recorded by Kenny Rogers and the First Edition on "Ruby, Don't Take Your Love to Town" (1969)

You've painted up your lips and rolled and curled your tinted hair.
Ruby, are you contemplating going out somewhere?
The shadow on the wall tells me the sun is going down.
Oh, Ruby, don't take your love to town.

It wasn't me that started that old crazy Asian war,
But I was proud to go and do my patriotic chore,
And yes, it's true that I'm not the man I used to be.
Oh, Ruby, I still need some company.

It's hard to love a man whose legs are bent and paralyzed,
And the wants and the needs of a woman your age, Ruby, I realize,
But it won't be long, I've heard them say, until I'm not around.
Oh, Ruby, don't take your love to town.

She's leaving now, 'cause I just heard the slamming of the door
The way I know I've heard it slam one hundred times before,
And if I could move, I'd get my gun, and put her in the ground.
Oh, Ruby, don't take your love to town.

Oh, Ruby, for God's sake, turn around.

Subject: Lyr Add: PATCHES (Dickey Lee)
From: Peace
Date: 02 Feb 06 - 08:23 PM

Snuffy,

I gotta tell you: I used to sing "Patches" when I was a working stage performer. Audiences liked it. It has a great melody and a tale to tell.

Lee Dickie

Patches

Down by the river that flows by the coal yards.
Stands wooden houses with shutters torn down
There lives a girl everybody calls Patches
Patches my darling of Old Shanty town

We plan to marry when June brought the summer
I couldn't wait to make Patches my bride
Now I don't see how that ever can happen
My folks say No, and my heart breaks inside

Patches oh what can I do
I swear I'll always love you
But a girl from that place would just bring me disgrace
So my folks won't let me love you

Each night I cry as I think of that shanty
And pretty Patches there watching the door
She dosn't know that I can't come to see her
Patches must think that I love her no more

I hear a neighbor tellin my father
He said a girl name of Patches was found
Floating face down in that dirty old river
That flows by the coal yards in Old Shanty Town

Patches oh what can I do
I swear I'll always love you
It may not be right But I'll join you tonight
Patches I'm coming to you

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Snuffy
Date: 02 Feb 06 - 07:01 PM

Pretty close to how I do verses 1 and 3, Peace, but I think mummy would "soothe" rather than "sue" him, and the middle verse goes:

People come for children
And take them for their own
I know they'd like to take me,
But I'm left here all alone
They say they like my hair of gold,
But when they see I'm blind
They always take some other kid
And I am left behind

Subject: Lyr Add: NOBODY'S CHILD (Hank Snow?)
From: Peace
Date: 02 Feb 06 - 06:42 PM

As I was slowly passing
an orphan's home one day,
I stopped for just a little while
to watch the children play.
Alone a boy was standing
and when I asked him why,
he turned with eyes that could not see
and he began to cry.

I'm nobody's child,
I'm nobody's child.
Just like the flowers
I'm growing wild.
I got no mummy's kisses
I got no daddy's smile.
Nobody wants me,
I'm nobody's child.

No mummy's arms to hold me
or sue me when I cry,
'cos sometimes I feel so lonesome
I wish that I could die.
I'll walk the streets of heaven
where all blinds can see.

And just like for the other kids
it will be a home for me.

I'm nobody's child,
I'm nobody's child.
Just like the flowers
I'm growing wild.
I got no mummy's kisses
I got no daddy's smile.
Nobody wants me,
I'm nobody's child.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Snuffy
Date: 02 Feb 06 - 06:25 PM

It's a valued part of my repertoire Joy. :-)

No mommy's kisses and no daddy's smile ..
And only three verses.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Joybell
Date: 02 Feb 06 - 05:58 PM

You're all evil horrible people! I'd nearly forgotten most of these. The CAKE? Why was it left out in the rain? I've never in my life had to worry about such things. Should I? What if I leave a cake out in the rain and they all say I'm old and silly?

OK take this -
I'm nobody's child. I'm nobody's child.
Just like a flower I'm growing wild
...Hmmm... a bit about nobody loves me
Nobody wants me. I'm nobody's child.

Don't fill me in. I'm trying to forget.
Cheers, Joy

Subject: Lyr Add: DAISY A DAY (Jud Strunk)
From: Cool Beans
Date: 02 Feb 06 - 04:43 PM

Speaking of overwrought sentimentality...though I must admit this song gets to me every time.

Daisy a Day
By Jud Strunk

He remembers the first time he met 'er
He remembers the first thing she said
He remembers the first time he held her
And the night that she came to his bed

He remembers her sweet way of singin'
Honey has somethin' gone wrong
He remembers the fun and the teasin'
And the reason he wrote 'er this song

refrain:
I'll give you a daisy a day
I'll give you a daisy a day
I'll love you until the rivers run still
And the four winds we know blow away

They would walk down the street in the evenin'
And for years I would see them go by
And their love that was more than the clothes that they wore
Could be seen in the gleam of their eye

As a kid they would take me for candy
And I loved to go taggin' along
We'd hold hands while we walked to the corner
And the old man would sing 'er his song

refrain

Now he walks down the street in the evenin'
And he stops by the old candy store
And I somehow believe he's believin'
He's holdin' 'er hand like before

For he feels all her love walkin' with him
And he smiles at the things she might say
Then the old man walks up to the hilltop
And gives her a daisy a day

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: fat B****rd
Date: 02 Feb 06 - 03:50 PM

I'm with you there, Peace, me old love. I can't imagine ANYBODY getting home from work to find their better half just wrecked the car. What the heck !!
Personally that one about Teddy Bear and truckers does it for me.

Subject: Lyr Add: HONEY (Bobby Goldsboro)
From: Peace
Date: 02 Feb 06 - 03:17 PM

Honey

See the tree, how big it's grown but friend it hasn't been too long it wasn't big
I laughed at her and she got mad, the first day that she planted, it, was just a twig
Then the first snow came and she ran out to brush the snow away
So it wouldn't die
Came runnin' in all excited, slipped and almost hurt herself
And I laughed till I cried
She was always young at heart, kinda dumb and kinda smart and I loved her so
And I surprised her with a puppy
Kept me up all Christmas Eve two years ago
And it would sure embarrass her
When I came in from workin' late 'cause I would know
That she'd been sittin' there and cryin'
Over some sad and silly late, late show

And honey, I miss you and I'm bein' good
And I'd love to be with you if only I could

She wrecked the car and she was sad
And so afraid that I'd be mad but what the heck
Though I pretended hard to be
Guess you could say she saw through me and hugged my neck
I came home unexpectedly and caught her cryin' needlessly
In the middle of a day
And it was in the early Spring when flowers bloom and robins sing
She went away

And honey, I miss you and I'm bein' good
And I'd love to be with you if only I could

One day while I was not at home while she was there and all alone
The angels came
Now all I have is memories of Honey and I wake up nights and call her name
Now my life's an empty stage where Honey lived and Honey played
And love grew up
And a small cloud passes overhead and cries down on the flower bed
That Honey loved

And see the tree how big it's grown but friend it hasn't been too long it wasn't big
And I laughed at her and she got mad
The first day that she planted it, was just a twig

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: gnu
Date: 02 Feb 06 - 03:15 PM

Shite... I was enjoying this thread until I saw "Seasons In The Sun". Stuff? Yeah, you can....

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: clueless don
Date: 02 Feb 06 - 03:15 PM

See the tree, how big it's grown?
But, friend, it hasn't been so [or maybe "too"] long,
it wasn't big.
I laughed at her and she got mad,
the first day that she planted it -
was just a twig.

And so on. That's just from memory. It got a lot of airplay back in the sixties.

Don

Subject: Lyr Add: SEASONS IN THE SUN (Terry Jacks)
From: Peace
Date: 02 Feb 06 - 02:58 PM

For my buddies Little Hawk and Muttley.

Terry Jacks

Seasons In The Sun Lyrics

Goodbye to you, my trusted friend.
We've known each other since we're nine or ten.
Together we climbed hills or trees.
Learned of love and ABC's,
skinned our hearts and skinned our knees.
Goodbye my friend, it's hard to die,
when all the birds are singing in the sky,
Now that the spring is in the air.
Pretty girls are everywhere.
When you see them I'll be there.
We had joy, we had fun, we had seasons in the sun.
But the hills that we climbed
were just seasons out of time.
Goodbye, Papa, please pray for me,
I was the black sheep of the family.
You tried to teach me right from wrong.
Too much wine and too much song,
wonder how I get along.
Goodbye, Papa, it's hard to die
when all the birds are singing in the sky,
Now that the spring is in the air.
Little children everywhere.
When you see them I'll be there.
We had joy, we had fun, we had seasons in the sun.
But the wine and the song,
like the seasons, all have gone.
Goodbye, Michelle, my little one.
You gave me love and helped me find the sun.
And every time that I was down
you would always come around
and get my feet back on the ground.
Goodbye, Michelle, it's hard to die
when all the bird are singing in the sky,
Now that the spring is in the air.
With the flowers ev'rywhere.
I wish that we could both be there.
We had joy, we had fun, we had seasons in the sun.
But the stars we could reach
were just starfishs on the beach.


Please note the rhyming couplet to end this timeless--uh, stuff.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Feb 06 - 12:54 PM

I vote for Lauren Bacall. Unsurpassable.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Wolfgang
Date: 02 Feb 06 - 12:49 PM

All the suspects at a few glances

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 02 Feb 06 - 11:20 AM

Marty Wilde and Joe Brown. Now yer talkin'!

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Cool Beans
Date: 02 Feb 06 - 10:53 AM

Did Peter Sarstedt used to buy his corned-beef-on-rye
at the New New Delhi Deli?

Subject: Lyr Add: FROZEN ORANGE JUICE (Peter Sarstedt)
From: John O'L
Date: 02 Feb 06 - 07:54 AM

I'll buy you one more frozen orange juice on this fantastic day.
We'll walk the sunny hills of Madrid laughing all the way.
And if you feel you wanna run down a ravine
A place that no-one else has ever been
Before

I'll pick a flower from the road and place it in your heart
We will hold our breath together, we shall never part
You rescue me, I rescue you
You rescue me, I rescue you
yes, I do

And in the morning when we wake up I'll be on my way,
With echoes ringing in my head of this fantastic day
You rescue me etc.

"run down a ravine"? OK Pete, you first

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Muttley
Date: 02 Feb 06 - 07:00 AM

Actually that wasn't the "Sunny" I was referring to - though when re-reading my own post that particular song (whose lyrics you just posted) and tune came crashing into my skull obliterating some of the last few sensitive neurons I have left. Then I scroll down and READ the damned thing - - - you are cruel.

No the one I meant was the one I was referring to was (I think) by tha "misery-hack" Bobby Goldsborough and designed to make everyone weep at the injustice of a youthful passing - - - Its primary response was to promptly gag and hurl!

(Actually, now I "think on't" the title MAY have been "Honey"!

"See the tree, how big it's grown: Honey; hasn't been too long - you went away ................ etc"

Now do you get the picture???

Checked a whole heap of sites plus my own resources and all I could find was that the song is SUPPOSED to refer to Loren, though Sarstedt never actually seems to make the claim. However, I DID find that Loren had a sister (half-sister) so she wasn't an only child. I rather think the idea of thr "singer" being a close male friend of her childhood with whom she made one of those "vows" that so many "rags to riches" success stories seem to claim to have made at some point - in her case it was probably a made-up-for-the-song situation but referred toan actual childhood friend who also made good but in chasing their careers, they drifted - he losing Loren to "Hollywood" romances - - - notably Cary Grant and the guy she ended up arrying - the Italian director, whatsisname???? AHH !!!! Ponti!

Best I can do guys - the mystery remains

Keep up the "Flame Wars" they are bloody hilarious - - - probably 'cos I ain't on ythe end of them hahahahahahaha

Mutt

Subject: Lyr Add: SUNNY (Bobby Hebb)
From: Peace
Date: 01 Feb 06 - 03:36 PM

I would sooner put my elbow in a spinning propeller blade than listen to that song. While I have done my best to out-gross Little Hawk, short of sending y'all life-sized posters of William Shatner, I am at my wits' end. However, thanks to a suggestion above from my buddy, Muttley:

Sunny, yesterday my life was filled with rain
Sunny, you smiled at me and really eased the pain
Oh, the dark days are done
The bright days are here
My sunny one shines so sincere
Sunny one so true
I love you

Sunny, thank you for that sunshine bouquet
Sunny, thank you for the love you brought my way
You gave to me your all and all
Now I feel ten feet tall
Sunny one so true
I love you

Sunny, thank you for the truth you let me see
Sunny, thank you for the facts from a to z
My life was torn like windblown sand
And then a rock was formed when we held hands
Sunny one so true
I love you

Sunny, thank for that smile upon your face
Sunny, thank you for that gleam that flows with grace
You're my spark of nature's fire
You're my sweet complete desire
Sunny one so true
I love you

Sunny, yesterday my life was filled with rain
Sunny, you smiled at me and really eased the pain
The dark days are done
The bright days are here
My sunny one shines so sincere
Sunny one so true
Sunny one so true
Sunny one so true
I love you

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 01 Feb 06 - 12:56 PM

Surely, Peter thought the story - where-ever it originated, would make a good song. And of course, as far as I'm concerned, he was right. Peter's first single was " I am a Cathedral", which I thought was an interesting song. I thought "Frozen Orange Juice" was a dreadful follow-up to " Where do you ...". I saw him a few years ago on a package show - along with Marty Wilde and Joe Brown. He was in fine voice.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Feb 06 - 12:45 PM

Well, I'd be a bit annoyed if I was Sophia.

Muttley, Peace and I are getting along fine. It's one of those "flame your pal on the forum" things, that's all. It's a joke.

I read some biographical material about Sophia Loren on the Net. Interesting. She had a tough start in life, dealing with poverty, war, and privation. She seems to have been a very determined young woman, parlaying a beauty contest win into a hugely successful career in film.

If you want to see an almost interminable movie from the early part of her Hollywood career, which includes the worst miscasting in HISTORY (Frank Sinatra as a Spanish freedom fighter in early 1800's Spain, fighting the Napoleonic occupation army...ha! ha!)...watch "The Pride and the Passion" (1957).

Loren plays her part (standard passionate Latin barefoot beauty stereotype) okay, but the script gives her very little to work with. Cary Grant (who was having an affaire with Loren at the time) plays his part as if he'd rather be at the polo club watching the wallpaper fade....

The battle scenes are great. Really quite an odd movie.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST,punfolkrocker
Date: 01 Feb 06 - 12:24 PM

saw him in the last year or 2 supporting lindisfarne if i remember right..



me & the wife found his performance a bit tiresome and irritating
but now cant remember why ??

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Peace
Date: 01 Feb 06 - 10:30 AM

Or maybe it's George and Dick.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Peace
Date: 01 Feb 06 - 10:20 AM

"One act I didn't go to see at the club the same year was a young duo called "Tyrannosaurus Rex"."

They are in the White House now as Geroge and Dick.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: pavane
Date: 01 Feb 06 - 02:32 AM

When I was at college in 1969, Peter Sarstedt was a guest at our folk club, in the week where he got to No 1 in the charts. I was impressed by the fact that he still turned up to honour the booking.

He popped up on a TV chat show not too long ago, and was discussing how "Where do you go to" was his "Pension" song, stil bringing in a regular income. (It is one of the very few pop song to use an accordeon)

One act I didn't go to see at the club the same year was a young duo called "Tyrannosaurus Rex". Never heard of them and didn't fancy the name!

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Muttley
Date: 01 Feb 06 - 01:21 AM

A partial answer for you Little Hawk:

Sasha Distel is (or was) a singer

Balmain refers to Pierre Balmain who was (and is) an 'Haute Coutour' designer of clothing

Zizi Jeanmarie (born Renee) was the Prima Ballerina of the Ballet de Paris / Ballet de Champs Elysees in the 1950's. Such was her appeal and fame as such that she also starred in a couple of Hollywood movies in the 1950's as well - most notably as 'Doro' in Danny Kaye's film Hans Christian Andersen. In all she went on to make a further 7 film and television movies the last being in 1991 (a telemovie).

As for Sarstedt's referring to Sophia Loren as the "My Lovely" in the song I have heard from many sources that this is indeed so though I have never bothered to find out why - I shall investigar=te and see if I can locate a reference. (one unsubstantiated version is that the song is from the perspective of a childhood playmate who occupied a very intimate (in the Platonic sense of the word) position close to Loren while growing up in Naples (BTW - anyone ever been to Naples? No wonder she left! It's dirty and horrible and UGLY driving around its streets - however, from across the Bay of Naples the city appears quite pretty - I guess the further you are from it, the more its appeal grows). It may have even BEEN a sibling - though I thought she was an only child.

Finally Little Hawk - What the HELL did you do to Peace? I've had several VERY friendly discussions with that person (and even a couple of CD's - thanks P!) and here you are getting flamed every time Peace answers you.

Mind you I think Peace has the upper hand at present - those have been some truly SAD lyrics thrown (up) at you: Just pray Peace never sends you the lyrics to "Sunny" aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrgggghh!

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 10:06 PM

Thank you, Malcolm. That was quite helpful. Your description of the album matches my impression of the song almost perfectly.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 07:27 PM

See these earlier threads:

1999: LyrRequest:Where do you go to my Lovely?
1999: Marie Claire'?/Lyric req (includes full lyric, including the "missing" verse mentioned above)
1997: WHERE DO YOU GO TO, MY LOVELY? (Sarstedt) (posted with mishearings, and the rather creepy comment "enjoy" attached. I've always hated that.)

Several parodies, mostly of less interest than the original, are included. Mind you, it was I who posted the full lyric. I still have the LP, come to that. Bought it when it first came out; I was 14 or 15. The album was pretentious, self-important and, ultimately, rather shallow: just right for adolescents, in fact.

Sarstedt's postscript on the sleeve says it all, really (capitals as in the original):

"BOB DYLAN STRAIGHTENED ME OUT. OSCAR BROWN JR GAVE ME THE IMPORTANCE OF A SONG. THE WORLD GIVES ME AMMUNITION AND LOVE GIVES ME A REASON TO CARRY ON. I AM YOUR FRIEND."

Oh well. It was 1969.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 07:26 PM

Good lord.

The Rutledges, Suzanne, live in some pastoral spot in merry old England. I think it's in the Cotswolds. But they visit Paris quite often and they know all the important people there. That is all that really need be said about it.

Subject: Lyr Add: WHERE DO YOU GO TO MY DORIS (Les Barker)
From: Bainbo
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 06:35 PM

Where do you go to, my Doris, by Les Barker, some time in the 70s.
He turned it round to be about inverted snobbery, and how everybody was desperately trying to prove working-class roots.

The references are to Manchester, and other places in North West England.
Eddie Waring - TV rugby football commentator; St Michael - brand name of Marks and Spencer clothes shops; Jimmy Frizzell - manager of Oldham Athletic football club; Colin Bell - Manchester City footballer; Domestos - household bleach. Bramhall - posh area. Oldham - not posh.

You'll have to work out the rest yourself. And you know the saddest part? This isn't copy-and-paste. I've just typed it all out. From memory.

***

Well, you talk just like Eddie Waring, and you dance like Yogi Bear.
Your clothes are all made by St Michael, and there's dandruff and bugs in your hair,
Yes there are, oh aye, itchy coo

You live in a council penthouse, off the boulevard, Newton Heath,
Where you play your Rolling Stones records by the light of Cliff Richard's teeth,
Yes you do, oh aye, itchy coo

But where do you go to, my Doris, when you get on a train?
Are you seeing a smoothy in Salford, or a dirty old man in Dean Lane?

I've seen both your qualifications, you got at Oldham Tech -
Needlework and marine boiler maintenance, and your O-levels come up to your neck.
Yes they do, oh aye, itchycoo

When you go on summer vacation you're found on Blackpool sands,
In your carefully designed topless swimsuit, you look just like one of the lads,
Yes you do, oh aye, itchy coo

And when the snow falls you're found in Widnes, with the others of the jet set.
You sip your Domestos and soda, and down it in one for a bet,
Yes you do, oh aye, itchy coo

But where do you go to, my Doris, when you get on a bus?
Are you seeing a playboy in Failsworth? Is it all over for us?

Your name it is heard in high places - you know Jimmy Frizzell.
He bought you a tortoise for Christmas, and you race it against Colin Bell
And it wins, yes it does, itchy coo

They say that when you get married, it'll be to a millionaire.
You'd better move out of Oldham - won't meet many round there,
No you won't, will you 'eck, itchy coo

But where do you go to, my Doris, when you drive off in your car?
Are you having an an affair with a golfer who thinks half-past-ten's about par?

I remember the back streets of Bramhall, two children playing a game
Each with inverted ambition to shake off a middle-class name
Yes they did, oh aye, itchy coo

So look into my eyes, darling Doris, and remember who you are -
You think you're a working-class scrubber, bt you've got a stockbroker papa,
Yes you have, oh aye, itchy coo

I know where you go to, my Doris, when you go anywhere at all.
You're not having fish suppers in Oldham, but muffins and tea in Bramhall.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 05:35 PM

Sheer idle curiosity: Which part of Paris were the Rutledges of Twillingsgate from?

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST,Dave Roberts, Salt Town poets
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 12:23 PM

I offer the following in the hope of putting at least one of Mr Sarstedt's works into a historical and social context.
When 'Frozen Orange Juice was released (circa 69/70) it had as its b-side a risque little number called 'Take Off Your Clothes', the kind of thing that the BBC would never normally have countenanced broadcasting in a million years.
However one lunchtime, on the evocatively titled 'Radio One Club', a cool, hip, beeb 'deejay' put the wrong side of the record on by mistake. For a while western civilisation teetered on the edge of an abyss, questions were asked in the house and our own dear Mrs Mary Whitehouse (q.v.) suffered the worst fit of the vapours in her illustrious career.
But the BBC apologised, so that was all right.
The only other thing I can remember about Mr S is the annoying way many people had of pronouncing his name, as 'Sarztit'.
Oh, and brother Robin's hit was, I think, 'My Resistance Is Low'.
I hope this is of help.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: David C. Carter
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 12:07 PM

Little Hawk:
Try:www.findarticles.com/p/search
There's a London Indepenant Article:Aug8th/Aug12th,1999-by Anne McElvoy

Good Luck

David

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 12:01 PM

The song is kind of intriguing, dropping all those French cultural references along the way. I mean, who the hell is Zizi Jeanmaire? Balmain? Sasha Distel?

Why hate someone for being sophisticated when you can sound as sophisticated yourself as Peter does in this song?

I am surprised that he made no references to the Rutledges of Twillingsgate, though.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: bobad
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 11:53 AM

Excuse me, that should have read

"Someone left the cake out in the rain..."

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Teribus
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 11:49 AM

Little Hawk - 30 Jan 06 - 05:47 PM

WHERE DO YOU GO TO (MY LOVELY) ?
(Sarstedt)
Peter Sarstedt - 1969

There was an additional verse on the LP recording of the song that indicated the age of 'Marie-Claire'. If memory serves me it was about 30, Sophia Loren would have been 35 at the time. We still only have LH's supposition that the lady in the song is Sophia Loren, like David Carter I have as yet found nothing to make that connection.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: bobad
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 11:48 AM

"Someone put a cake out in the rain...."

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Jeanie
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 11:42 AM

Where did Peter Sarstedt go to, you wanted to know, Little Hawk ?
He was interviewed in an "After They Were Famous" TV programme here in the UK a few years ago, looking not very different from the way he looked back in the 1960s. He explained that his sudden disappearance from the music business was because of his very bad stammer (which he has now overcome). He just couldn't cope with media interviews. This TV programme was a few years ago now, and he said then that he was hoping to make a comeback.

Dare I say, I actually liked that song - and, like Susanne, I was also "beguiled by the walrus moustache" and all that French stuff.
But, if you're looking for a truly dire song to add to the above list, how about this one, so awful that I will only risk putting the first line of it in black and white:
"See the tree, how big it's grown...."

eeeeeeeeeeeeeek

- jeanie

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 11:27 AM

Does anybody remember the parody ? It started :
She talks like Henry Cooper
She walks like a grizzly bear
Her clothes they are all made by Woolworths
And the dandruff falls from her hair

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 11:23 AM

He was definitely an offbeat songwriter. I was tortured for years by hearing his song on the radio in Toronto. Somebody there must have loved it.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: David C. Carter
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 11:19 AM

Site says he was born in Delhi,India.Brother's name(aka Eden Kane).This still doesn't clear up the Sophia Loren connection though.I will"look into it".Frozen Orange Juice had Spanish flavour,with strings and stuff.

David

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Brakn
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 11:10 AM

Brothers were Robin Sarstedt and Eden Kane. (I think)

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: alanabit
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 11:08 AM

He also had quite a funny song called something like, "And My Daddy is a Millionaire." I think he had a younger brother called Robin Sarstedt, who had a minor hit in the eighties.
I can remember worse songs than these, but thtat just proves I am a masochist!

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 10:54 AM

Peter Sarstedt is from India? He doesn't have an Indian name. Sarstedt sounds Eastern European to me. I still see no tie-in to Sophia Loren here. What's the deal?

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: David C. Carter
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 10:15 AM

The gentleman in question has got 4Cds onAamazon!They go from about $3-thru $16, and he apparently had another hit with a song entitled-Frozen Orange Juice,which made N°10 in the charts!He comes from India,and is 1 of 3 brothers.All this is on a site.However,it doesn't say if his"music" was ever Boot-Legged!I certainly don't have any.We get him on the radio here quite often.If you're out driving, and you got the radio going and he comes on....well,if you can switch stations in time, you just may be able to avoid a collision or running off the road.
Cheers
David

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Peace
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 07:47 PM

Once had a long involved coversation with a chair in 1968. It was upholstered to start with, but when it ate the cushions I decided the chair had to go. It didn't want to go. That's when the trouble started.

I was living in an apartment the fourth floor of a building on Delancey Street in New York City's Lower East Side. There would have been no problem if the gas stove hadn't leaked and created a foul-smelling odor that was making all the cockroaches crazy. The cat had been sleeping for three days when the buzzer announced the presence of my best friend who'd been out shopping dressed up like Mickey Mouse. The--wait a minute. This is the wrong thread. Sorry.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: David C. Carter
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 07:20 PM

Yeah...you're right.Didn't mean to drag you down or nothing.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 07:12 PM

I creak on and on too...but I have something to say. ;-)

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Peace
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 07:11 PM

Jesse Winchester said in one of his songs: "It's a good thing that chairs don't walk; it's a good thing that beds don't talk." If he'd met you before he wrote that song David, why, that song wouldn't have GOT wrote.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: David C. Carter
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 07:05 PM

I often talk to the wall......the chair just creaks on and on.And you?

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 07:04 PM

No. It didn't speak a word. Just sat there and stared back at him.

Now go take a hike and let some real musical analysis begin on this highly significant song.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Peace
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 07:01 PM

Does the chair answer?

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 06:56 PM

Do you ever feel like talking to the chair?

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: David C. Carter
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 06:54 PM

Where did Peter Sarstedt go.....I ask myself......though I can't think why......I ask myself.Does Sophia Loren know about this?Where did she go to....I ask myself...and it's nearly 1:00 in the morning and I ask myself what am I doing and all kinds of other stuff like why don't I go to bed.....I ask myse......

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 06:46 PM

Peace, there is a special place in hell waiting for you for posting that last lyric. My Gawd...

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 06:45 PM

Well, it does sound a lot like her. She came from humble beginnings.

Subject: Lyr Add: RUN JOEY RUN (David Geddes)
From: Peace
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 06:45 PM

Run Joey Run
David Geddes

Daddy please don't, it wasn't his fault, he means so much to me
Daddy please don't, we're gonna get married...just you wait and see.

She called me up, late last night, she said Joe, don't come over
My dad and I just had a fight, and he stormed out the door
I've never seen him act his this way, my God, hes going crazy
He says he's gonna make you pay, for what we've done, he's got a gun, so

Run Joey Run Joey Run
Daddy please don't, it wasn't his fault, he means so much to me
Daddy please don't, we're gonna get married...just you wait and see.

I got in my car and I drove like mad, till I reached Julie's place
She ran to me, with tears in her eyes, and bruises on her face
All at once, I saw him there, sneaking up behind me, WATCH OUT!
Then Julie yelled, he's got a gun, and she stepped in front of me
Suddenly, a shot rang out, and I saw Julie falling
I ran to her, I held her close, when I looked down, my hands were red,
and heres the last words Julie said...

Daddy please don't, it wasn't his fault, he means so much to me
Daddy please don't, we're gonna get married.....aaahhh..ahhhh
ahhhh....ahhhhh

Run Joey run Joey run Joey run Joey run Joey run

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 06:43 PM

Once upon a time I was able to do that song by heart ... beguiled by that walrus moustache, I suppose. I'd no idea it was about Sophia Loren.

Subject: Lyr Add: THESE BOOTS ARE MADE FOR WALKIN'
From: Peace
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 06:40 PM

Nancy Sinatra

These Boots Were Made For Walking

You keep saying you've got something for me.
something you call love, but confess.
You've been messin' where you shouldn't have been a messin'
and now someone else is gettin' all your best.

These boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.

You keep lying, when you oughta be truthin'
and you keep losin' when you oughta not bet.
You keep samin' when you oughta be changin'.
Now what's right is right, but you ain't been right yet.

These boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.

You keep playin' where you shouldn't be playin
and you keep thinkin' that you´ll never get burnt.
Ha! I just found me a brand new box of matches yeah
and what he know you ain't HAD time to learn.

Are you ready boots? Start walkin'!

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 06:37 PM

Just the one after "snub"! Are you being paid to harass this thread? Watch it, or I shall post the lyrics to "I've Never Been To Me"!

(gonna get the nukes out if I have to...)

This is a music thread. Some respect, please!

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Peace
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 06:33 PM

Without the 'up'.

The question I am really asking is: why does Peter Sarstedt get this set over Sophia Loren? Did she snub him once or something?

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 06:14 PM

sorry. remove "up" from that last sentence.

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 06:13 PM

The question I am really asking is: why does Peter Sarstedt get this upset over Sophia Loren? Did she snub him up once or something?

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 06:09 PM

GAAAH! You are really sick. Do you know that?

Subject: Lyr Add: ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY (Bob Lind)
From: Peace
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 06:05 PM

And YOU can think about THIS at 3:00 AM.

(Bob Lind)

You might wake up some mornin'
To the sound of something moving past your window in the wind
And if you're quick enough to rise
You'll catch a fleeting glimpse of someone's fading shadow
Out on the new horizon
You may see the floating motion of a distant pair of wings
And if the sleep has left your ears
You might hear footsteps running through an open meadow

Don't be concerned, it will not harm you
It's only me pursuing somethin' I'm not sure of
Across my dreams with nets of wonder
I chase the bright elusive butterfly of love

You might have heard my footsteps
Echo softly in the distance through the canyons of your mind
I might have even called your name
As I ran searching after something to believe in
You might have seen me runnin'
Through the long-abandoned ruins of the dreams you left behind
If you remember something there
That glided past you followed close by heavy breathin'

Don't be concerned, it will not harm you
It's only me pursuing somethin' I'm not sure of
Across my dreams with nets of wonder
I chase the bright elusive butterfly of love

[Instrumental Interlude]

Across my dreams with nets of wonder
I chase the bright elusive butterfly of love

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Peace
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 06:02 PM

Lord,

It is plain to me that I have sinned else this thread would have escaped my attention and I would not have been drawn by the Devil to open it. I have pissED off Little Hawk by insulting Shatner on another thread. Lord, forgive me and allow my mind to forget the song that Little Hawk posted above. PLEEEEEEEEEEEZE Lord. PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE.

Amen

Subject: Lyr Add: WHERE DO YOU GO TO (MY LOVELY)? (Sarstedt
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 05:47 PM

WHERE DO YOU GO TO (MY LOVELY) ?
(Sarstedt)
Peter Sarstedt - 1969

You talk like Marlene Dietrich
And you dance like Zizi Jeanmaire
Your clothes are all made by Balmain
And there's diamonds and pearls in your hair, yes there are

You live in a fancy apartment
Off the Boulevard Saint-Michel
Where you keep your Rolling Stones records
And a friend of Sacha Distel, yes you do

But where do you go to my lovely
When you're alone in your bed
Tell me the thoughts that surround you
I want to look inside your head, yes I do

I've seen all your qualifications
You got from the Sorbonne
And the painting you stole from Picasso
Your loveliness goes on and on, yes it does

When you go on your summer vacation
You go to Juan-les-Pins
With your carefully designed topless swimsuit
You get an even suntan on your back and on your legs

And when the snow falls you're found in Saint Moritz
With the others of the jet-set
And you sip your Napoleon brandy
But you never get your lips wet, no you don't

But where do you go to my lovely
When you're alone in your bed
Won't you tell me the thoughts that surround you
I want to look inside your head, yes I do

Your name, it is heard in high places
You know the Aga Khan
He sent you a racehorse for Christmas
And you keep it just for fun, for a laugh a-ha-ha-ha

They say that when you get married
It'll be to a millionaire
But they don't realize where you came from
And I wonder if they really care, or give a damn

Where do you go to my lovely
When you're alone in your bed
Tell me the thoughts that surround you
I want to look inside your head, yes I do

I remember the back streets of Naples
Two children begging in rags
Both touched with a burning ambition
To shake off their lowly-born tags, so they try

So look into my face Marie-Claire
And remember just who you are
Then go and forget me forever
But I know you still bear the scar, deep inside, yes you do

I know where you go to my lovely
When you're alone in your bed
I know the thoughts that surround you
'Cause I can look inside your head

(na na-na-na na na-na-na na-na na na na na)
(na na-na-na na na-na-na na-na na na na na)

Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 05:42 PM

I'll say this: it's preferable to "I've Never Been To Me". That one could gag a tiger shark.

Subject: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 05:39 PM

This strikingly overwrought song was recorded by Peter Sarstedt in 1969, and I used to hear it on the radio a lot back then and in the early 70's. I always used to wonder why the writer had such a sense of grievance about the rags-to-riches girl described in the story.

After searching around on the Net some, I see that the song most likely referred to Sophia Loren. Why would Peter Sarstedt have been that concerned about Sophia Loren? Anybody got any thoughts on that?

As for Sarstedt, I am unaware of anthing else he ever recorded at this point.

It certainly was an unusual song, and the FM stations in Toronto just loved it back then.