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Subject: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 05:39 PM

This strikingly overwrought song was recorded by Peter Sarstedt in 1969, and I used to hear it on the radio a lot back then and in the early 70's. I always used to wonder why the writer had such a sense of grievance about the rags-to-riches girl described in the story.

After searching around on the Net some, I see that the song most likely referred to Sophia Loren. Why would Peter Sarstedt have been that concerned about Sophia Loren? Anybody got any thoughts on that?

As for Sarstedt, I am unaware of anthing else he ever recorded at this point.

It certainly was an unusual song, and the FM stations in Toronto just loved it back then.


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 05:42 PM

I'll say this: it's preferable to "I've Never Been To Me". That one could gag a tiger shark.


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Subject: Lyr Add: WHERE DO YOU GO TO (MY LOVELY)? (Sarstedt
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 05:47 PM

WHERE DO YOU GO TO (MY LOVELY) ?
(Sarstedt)
Peter Sarstedt - 1969

You talk like Marlene Dietrich
And you dance like Zizi Jeanmaire
Your clothes are all made by Balmain
And there's diamonds and pearls in your hair, yes there are

You live in a fancy apartment
Off the Boulevard Saint-Michel
Where you keep your Rolling Stones records
And a friend of Sacha Distel, yes you do

But where do you go to my lovely
When you're alone in your bed
Tell me the thoughts that surround you
I want to look inside your head, yes I do

I've seen all your qualifications
You got from the Sorbonne
And the painting you stole from Picasso
Your loveliness goes on and on, yes it does

When you go on your summer vacation
You go to Juan-les-Pins
With your carefully designed topless swimsuit
You get an even suntan on your back and on your legs

And when the snow falls you're found in Saint Moritz
With the others of the jet-set
And you sip your Napoleon brandy
But you never get your lips wet, no you don't

But where do you go to my lovely
When you're alone in your bed
Won't you tell me the thoughts that surround you
I want to look inside your head, yes I do

Your name, it is heard in high places
You know the Aga Khan
He sent you a racehorse for Christmas
And you keep it just for fun, for a laugh a-ha-ha-ha

They say that when you get married
It'll be to a millionaire
But they don't realize where you came from
And I wonder if they really care, or give a damn

Where do you go to my lovely
When you're alone in your bed
Tell me the thoughts that surround you
I want to look inside your head, yes I do

I remember the back streets of Naples
Two children begging in rags
Both touched with a burning ambition
To shake off their lowly-born tags, so they try

So look into my face Marie-Claire
And remember just who you are
Then go and forget me forever
But I know you still bear the scar, deep inside, yes you do

I know where you go to my lovely
When you're alone in your bed
I know the thoughts that surround you
'Cause I can look inside your head

(na na-na-na na na-na-na na-na na na na na)
(na na-na-na na na-na-na na-na na na na na)


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Peace
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 06:02 PM

Lord,

It is plain to me that I have sinned else this thread would have escaped my attention and I would not have been drawn by the Devil to open it. I have pissED off Little Hawk by insulting Shatner on another thread. Lord, forgive me and allow my mind to forget the song that Little Hawk posted above. PLEEEEEEEEEEEZE Lord. PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE.

Amen


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Subject: Lyr Add: ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY (Bob Lind)
From: Peace
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 06:05 PM

And YOU can think about THIS at 3:00 AM.

(Bob Lind)

You might wake up some mornin'
To the sound of something moving past your window in the wind
And if you're quick enough to rise
You'll catch a fleeting glimpse of someone's fading shadow
Out on the new horizon
You may see the floating motion of a distant pair of wings
And if the sleep has left your ears
You might hear footsteps running through an open meadow

Don't be concerned, it will not harm you
It's only me pursuing somethin' I'm not sure of
Across my dreams with nets of wonder
I chase the bright elusive butterfly of love

You might have heard my footsteps
Echo softly in the distance through the canyons of your mind
I might have even called your name
As I ran searching after something to believe in
You might have seen me runnin'
Through the long-abandoned ruins of the dreams you left behind
If you remember something there
That glided past you followed close by heavy breathin'

Don't be concerned, it will not harm you
It's only me pursuing somethin' I'm not sure of
Across my dreams with nets of wonder
I chase the bright elusive butterfly of love

[Instrumental Interlude]

Across my dreams with nets of wonder
I chase the bright elusive butterfly of love


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 06:09 PM

GAAAH! You are really sick. Do you know that?


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 06:13 PM

The question I am really asking is: why does Peter Sarstedt get this upset over Sophia Loren? Did she snub him up once or something?


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 06:14 PM

sorry. remove "up" from that last sentence.


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Peace
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 06:33 PM

Without the 'up'.

The question I am really asking is: why does Peter Sarstedt get this set over Sophia Loren? Did she snub him once or something?


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 06:37 PM

Just the one after "snub"! Are you being paid to harass this thread? Watch it, or I shall post the lyrics to "I've Never Been To Me"!

(gonna get the nukes out if I have to...)

This is a music thread. Some respect, please!


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Subject: Lyr Add: THESE BOOTS ARE MADE FOR WALKIN'
From: Peace
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 06:40 PM

Nancy Sinatra

These Boots Were Made For Walking

You keep saying you've got something for me.
something you call love, but confess.
You've been messin' where you shouldn't have been a messin'
and now someone else is gettin' all your best.

These boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.

You keep lying, when you oughta be truthin'
and you keep losin' when you oughta not bet.
You keep samin' when you oughta be changin'.
Now what's right is right, but you ain't been right yet.

These boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.

You keep playin' where you shouldn't be playin
and you keep thinkin' that you´ll never get burnt.
Ha! I just found me a brand new box of matches yeah
and what he know you ain't HAD time to learn.

Are you ready boots? Start walkin'!


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 06:43 PM

Once upon a time I was able to do that song by heart ... beguiled by that walrus moustache, I suppose. I'd no idea it was about Sophia Loren.


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Subject: Lyr Add: RUN JOEY RUN (David Geddes)
From: Peace
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 06:45 PM

Run Joey Run
David Geddes

Daddy please don't, it wasn't his fault, he means so much to me
Daddy please don't, we're gonna get married...just you wait and see.

She called me up, late last night, she said Joe, don't come over
My dad and I just had a fight, and he stormed out the door
I've never seen him act his this way, my God, hes going crazy
He says he's gonna make you pay, for what we've done, he's got a gun, so

Run Joey Run Joey Run
Daddy please don't, it wasn't his fault, he means so much to me
Daddy please don't, we're gonna get married...just you wait and see.

I got in my car and I drove like mad, till I reached Julie's place
She ran to me, with tears in her eyes, and bruises on her face
All at once, I saw him there, sneaking up behind me, WATCH OUT!
Then Julie yelled, he's got a gun, and she stepped in front of me
Suddenly, a shot rang out, and I saw Julie falling
I ran to her, I held her close, when I looked down, my hands were red,
and heres the last words Julie said...

Daddy please don't, it wasn't his fault, he means so much to me
Daddy please don't, we're gonna get married.....aaahhh..ahhhh
ahhhh....ahhhhh

Run Joey run Joey run Joey run Joey run Joey run


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 06:45 PM

Well, it does sound a lot like her. She came from humble beginnings.


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 06:46 PM

Peace, there is a special place in hell waiting for you for posting that last lyric. My Gawd...


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: David C. Carter
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 06:54 PM

Where did Peter Sarstedt go.....I ask myself......though I can't think why......I ask myself.Does Sophia Loren know about this?Where did she go to....I ask myself...and it's nearly 1:00 in the morning and I ask myself what am I doing and all kinds of other stuff like why don't I go to bed.....I ask myse......


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 06:56 PM

Do you ever feel like talking to the chair?


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Peace
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 07:01 PM

Does the chair answer?


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 07:04 PM

No. It didn't speak a word. Just sat there and stared back at him.

Now go take a hike and let some real musical analysis begin on this highly significant song.


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: David C. Carter
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 07:05 PM

I often talk to the wall......the chair just creaks on and on.And you?


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Peace
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 07:11 PM

Jesse Winchester said in one of his songs: "It's a good thing that chairs don't walk; it's a good thing that beds don't talk." If he'd met you before he wrote that song David, why, that song wouldn't have GOT wrote.


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 07:12 PM

I creak on and on too...but I have something to say. ;-)


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: David C. Carter
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 07:20 PM

Yeah...you're right.Didn't mean to drag you down or nothing.


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Peace
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 07:47 PM

Once had a long involved coversation with a chair in 1968. It was upholstered to start with, but when it ate the cushions I decided the chair had to go. It didn't want to go. That's when the trouble started.

I was living in an apartment the fourth floor of a building on Delancey Street in New York City's Lower East Side. There would have been no problem if the gas stove hadn't leaked and created a foul-smelling odor that was making all the cockroaches crazy. The cat had been sleeping for three days when the buzzer announced the presence of my best friend who'd been out shopping dressed up like Mickey Mouse. The--wait a minute. This is the wrong thread. Sorry.


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: David C. Carter
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 10:15 AM

The gentleman in question has got 4Cds onAamazon!They go from about $3-thru $16, and he apparently had another hit with a song entitled-Frozen Orange Juice,which made N°10 in the charts!He comes from India,and is 1 of 3 brothers.All this is on a site.However,it doesn't say if his"music" was ever Boot-Legged!I certainly don't have any.We get him on the radio here quite often.If you're out driving, and you got the radio going and he comes on....well,if you can switch stations in time, you just may be able to avoid a collision or running off the road.
Cheers
David


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 10:54 AM

Peter Sarstedt is from India? He doesn't have an Indian name. Sarstedt sounds Eastern European to me. I still see no tie-in to Sophia Loren here. What's the deal?


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: alanabit
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 11:08 AM

He also had quite a funny song called something like, "And My Daddy is a Millionaire." I think he had a younger brother called Robin Sarstedt, who had a minor hit in the eighties.
I can remember worse songs than these, but thtat just proves I am a masochist!


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Brakn
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 11:10 AM

Brothers were Robin Sarstedt and Eden Kane. (I think)


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: David C. Carter
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 11:19 AM

Site says he was born in Delhi,India.Brother's name(aka Eden Kane).This still doesn't clear up the Sophia Loren connection though.I will"look into it".Frozen Orange Juice had Spanish flavour,with strings and stuff.

David


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 11:23 AM

He was definitely an offbeat songwriter. I was tortured for years by hearing his song on the radio in Toronto. Somebody there must have loved it.


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 11:27 AM

Does anybody remember the parody ? It started :
She talks like Henry Cooper
She walks like a grizzly bear
Her clothes they are all made by Woolworths
And the dandruff falls from her hair


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Jeanie
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 11:42 AM

Where did Peter Sarstedt go to, you wanted to know, Little Hawk ?
He was interviewed in an "After They Were Famous" TV programme here in the UK a few years ago, looking not very different from the way he looked back in the 1960s. He explained that his sudden disappearance from the music business was because of his very bad stammer (which he has now overcome). He just couldn't cope with media interviews. This TV programme was a few years ago now, and he said then that he was hoping to make a comeback.

Dare I say, I actually liked that song - and, like Susanne, I was also "beguiled by the walrus moustache" and all that French stuff.
But, if you're looking for a truly dire song to add to the above list, how about this one, so awful that I will only risk putting the first line of it in black and white:
"See the tree, how big it's grown...."

eeeeeeeeeeeeeek

- jeanie


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: bobad
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 11:48 AM

"Someone put a cake out in the rain...."


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Teribus
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 11:49 AM

Little Hawk - 30 Jan 06 - 05:47 PM

WHERE DO YOU GO TO (MY LOVELY) ?
(Sarstedt)
Peter Sarstedt - 1969

There was an additional verse on the LP recording of the song that indicated the age of 'Marie-Claire'. If memory serves me it was about 30, Sophia Loren would have been 35 at the time. We still only have LH's supposition that the lady in the song is Sophia Loren, like David Carter I have as yet found nothing to make that connection.


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: bobad
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 11:53 AM

Excuse me, that should have read

"Someone left the cake out in the rain..."


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 12:01 PM

The song is kind of intriguing, dropping all those French cultural references along the way. I mean, who the hell is Zizi Jeanmaire? Balmain? Sasha Distel?

Why hate someone for being sophisticated when you can sound as sophisticated yourself as Peter does in this song?

I am surprised that he made no references to the Rutledges of Twillingsgate, though.


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: David C. Carter
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 12:07 PM

Little Hawk:
Try:www.findarticles.com/p/search
There's a London Indepenant Article:Aug8th/Aug12th,1999-by Anne McElvoy

Good Luck

David


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST,Dave Roberts, Salt Town poets
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 12:23 PM

I offer the following in the hope of putting at least one of Mr Sarstedt's works into a historical and social context.
When 'Frozen Orange Juice was released (circa 69/70) it had as its b-side a risque little number called 'Take Off Your Clothes', the kind of thing that the BBC would never normally have countenanced broadcasting in a million years.
However one lunchtime, on the evocatively titled 'Radio One Club', a cool, hip, beeb 'deejay' put the wrong side of the record on by mistake. For a while western civilisation teetered on the edge of an abyss, questions were asked in the house and our own dear Mrs Mary Whitehouse (q.v.) suffered the worst fit of the vapours in her illustrious career.
But the BBC apologised, so that was all right.
The only other thing I can remember about Mr S is the annoying way many people had of pronouncing his name, as 'Sarztit'.
Oh, and brother Robin's hit was, I think, 'My Resistance Is Low'.
I hope this is of help.


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 05:35 PM

Sheer idle curiosity: Which part of Paris were the Rutledges of Twillingsgate from?


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Subject: Lyr Add: WHERE DO YOU GO TO MY DORIS (Les Barker)
From: Bainbo
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 06:35 PM

Where do you go to, my Doris, by Les Barker, some time in the 70s.
He turned it round to be about inverted snobbery, and how everybody was desperately trying to prove working-class roots.

The references are to Manchester, and other places in North West England.
Eddie Waring - TV rugby football commentator; St Michael - brand name of Marks and Spencer clothes shops; Jimmy Frizzell - manager of Oldham Athletic football club; Colin Bell - Manchester City footballer; Domestos - household bleach. Bramhall - posh area. Oldham - not posh.

You'll have to work out the rest yourself. And you know the saddest part? This isn't copy-and-paste. I've just typed it all out. From memory.

***

Well, you talk just like Eddie Waring, and you dance like Yogi Bear.
Your clothes are all made by St Michael, and there's dandruff and bugs in your hair,
Yes there are, oh aye, itchy coo

You live in a council penthouse, off the boulevard, Newton Heath,
Where you play your Rolling Stones records by the light of Cliff Richard's teeth,
Yes you do, oh aye, itchy coo

But where do you go to, my Doris, when you get on a train?
Are you seeing a smoothy in Salford, or a dirty old man in Dean Lane?

I've seen both your qualifications, you got at Oldham Tech -
Needlework and marine boiler maintenance, and your O-levels come up to your neck.
Yes they do, oh aye, itchycoo

When you go on summer vacation you're found on Blackpool sands,
In your carefully designed topless swimsuit, you look just like one of the lads,
Yes you do, oh aye, itchy coo

And when the snow falls you're found in Widnes, with the others of the jet set.
You sip your Domestos and soda, and down it in one for a bet,
Yes you do, oh aye, itchy coo

But where do you go to, my Doris, when you get on a bus?
Are you seeing a playboy in Failsworth? Is it all over for us?

Your name it is heard in high places - you know Jimmy Frizzell.
He bought you a tortoise for Christmas, and you race it against Colin Bell
And it wins, yes it does, itchy coo

They say that when you get married, it'll be to a millionaire.
You'd better move out of Oldham - won't meet many round there,
No you won't, will you 'eck, itchy coo

But where do you go to, my Doris, when you drive off in your car?
Are you having an an affair with a golfer who thinks half-past-ten's about par?

I remember the back streets of Bramhall, two children playing a game
Each with inverted ambition to shake off a middle-class name
Yes they did, oh aye, itchy coo

So look into my eyes, darling Doris, and remember who you are -
You think you're a working-class scrubber, bt you've got a stockbroker papa,
Yes you have, oh aye, itchy coo

I know where you go to, my Doris, when you go anywhere at all.
You're not having fish suppers in Oldham, but muffins and tea in Bramhall.


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 07:26 PM

Good lord.

The Rutledges, Suzanne, live in some pastoral spot in merry old England. I think it's in the Cotswolds. But they visit Paris quite often and they know all the important people there. That is all that really need be said about it.


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 07:27 PM

See these earlier threads:

1999: LyrRequest:Where do you go to my Lovely?
1999: Marie Claire'?/Lyric req (includes full lyric, including the "missing" verse mentioned above)
1997: WHERE DO YOU GO TO, MY LOVELY? (Sarstedt) (posted with mishearings, and the rather creepy comment "enjoy" attached. I've always hated that.)

Several parodies, mostly of less interest than the original, are included. Mind you, it was I who posted the full lyric. I still have the LP, come to that. Bought it when it first came out; I was 14 or 15. The album was pretentious, self-important and, ultimately, rather shallow: just right for adolescents, in fact.

Sarstedt's postscript on the sleeve says it all, really (capitals as in the original):

"BOB DYLAN STRAIGHTENED ME OUT. OSCAR BROWN JR GAVE ME THE IMPORTANCE OF A SONG. THE WORLD GIVES ME AMMUNITION AND LOVE GIVES ME A REASON TO CARRY ON. I AM YOUR FRIEND."

Oh well. It was 1969.


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Jan 06 - 10:06 PM

Thank you, Malcolm. That was quite helpful. Your description of the album matches my impression of the song almost perfectly.


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Muttley
Date: 01 Feb 06 - 01:21 AM

A partial answer for you Little Hawk:

Sasha Distel is (or was) a singer

Balmain refers to Pierre Balmain who was (and is) an 'Haute Coutour' designer of clothing

Zizi Jeanmarie (born Renee) was the Prima Ballerina of the Ballet de Paris / Ballet de Champs Elysees in the 1950's. Such was her appeal and fame as such that she also starred in a couple of Hollywood movies in the 1950's as well - most notably as 'Doro' in Danny Kaye's film Hans Christian Andersen. In all she went on to make a further 7 film and television movies the last being in 1991 (a telemovie).

As for Sarstedt's referring to Sophia Loren as the "My Lovely" in the song I have heard from many sources that this is indeed so though I have never bothered to find out why - I shall investigar=te and see if I can locate a reference. (one unsubstantiated version is that the song is from the perspective of a childhood playmate who occupied a very intimate (in the Platonic sense of the word) position close to Loren while growing up in Naples (BTW - anyone ever been to Naples? No wonder she left! It's dirty and horrible and UGLY driving around its streets - however, from across the Bay of Naples the city appears quite pretty - I guess the further you are from it, the more its appeal grows). It may have even BEEN a sibling - though I thought she was an only child.

Finally Little Hawk - What the HELL did you do to Peace? I've had several VERY friendly discussions with that person (and even a couple of CD's - thanks P!) and here you are getting flamed every time Peace answers you.

Mind you I think Peace has the upper hand at present - those have been some truly SAD lyrics thrown (up) at you: Just pray Peace never sends you the lyrics to "Sunny" aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrgggghh!


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: pavane
Date: 01 Feb 06 - 02:32 AM

When I was at college in 1969, Peter Sarstedt was a guest at our folk club, in the week where he got to No 1 in the charts. I was impressed by the fact that he still turned up to honour the booking.

He popped up on a TV chat show not too long ago, and was discussing how "Where do you go to" was his "Pension" song, stil bringing in a regular income. (It is one of the very few pop song to use an accordeon)

One act I didn't go to see at the club the same year was a young duo called "Tyrannosaurus Rex". Never heard of them and didn't fancy the name!


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Peace
Date: 01 Feb 06 - 10:20 AM

"One act I didn't go to see at the club the same year was a young duo called "Tyrannosaurus Rex"."

They are in the White House now as Geroge and Dick.


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Peace
Date: 01 Feb 06 - 10:30 AM

Or maybe it's George and Dick.


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST,punfolkrocker
Date: 01 Feb 06 - 12:24 PM

saw him in the last year or 2 supporting lindisfarne if i remember right..



me & the wife found his performance a bit tiresome and irritating
but now cant remember why ??


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Feb 06 - 12:45 PM

Well, I'd be a bit annoyed if I was Sophia.

Muttley, Peace and I are getting along fine. It's one of those "flame your pal on the forum" things, that's all. It's a joke.

I read some biographical material about Sophia Loren on the Net. Interesting. She had a tough start in life, dealing with poverty, war, and privation. She seems to have been a very determined young woman, parlaying a beauty contest win into a hugely successful career in film.

If you want to see an almost interminable movie from the early part of her Hollywood career, which includes the worst miscasting in HISTORY (Frank Sinatra as a Spanish freedom fighter in early 1800's Spain, fighting the Napoleonic occupation army...ha! ha!)...watch "The Pride and the Passion" (1957).

Loren plays her part (standard passionate Latin barefoot beauty stereotype) okay, but the script gives her very little to work with. Cary Grant (who was having an affaire with Loren at the time) plays his part as if he'd rather be at the polo club watching the wallpaper fade....

The battle scenes are great. Really quite an odd movie.


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Subject: RE: 'Where do you go to my Lovely' - Discuss
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 01 Feb 06 - 12:56 PM

Surely, Peter thought the story - where-ever it originated, would make a good song. And of course, as far as I'm concerned, he was right. Peter's first single was " I am a Cathedral", which I thought was an interesting song. I thought "Frozen Orange Juice" was a dreadful follow-up to " Where do you ...". I saw him a few years ago on a package show - along with Marty Wilde and Joe Brown. He was in fine voice.


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