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Happy! – Feb 2 (Havelock Ellis / Talbot)

Abby Sale 02 Feb 06 - 09:27 AM
Peace 02 Feb 06 - 03:22 PM
Peace 02 Feb 06 - 03:37 PM
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Subject: Happy! – Feb 2 (Havelock Ellis / Talbot)
From: Abby Sale
Date: 02 Feb 06 - 09:27 AM


Happy Birthday!

sexologist Havelock Ellis

was born 2/2/1859
(d1939)

                O Mr. Ellis, O Mr. Ellis!
        Sex has peculiar angles, as you say;
        But I _don't_ see the idear of coitus from the rear,
        Though it seems to be the fashion of the day.
                O Dr. Freud, O Dr. Freud!
        Do you mean to say that you have never hoid?
        The position you suggest, is in fact the very best –
                I deny it, Mr. Ellis –
                You should try it, Dr. Freud!

                O Mr. Ellis, O Mr. Ellis!
        Does a naked woman make you stand erect?
        When you're reading Pushkin's verse
        And she diddles you or worse,
        Does it bother or disturb your intellect?
                O Dr. Freud, O Dr. Freud!
        My reactions are extremely anthropoid;
        And the sight of her behind
        Forces Pushkin from my mind –
                Forces Pushkin, Mr. Ellis? –
                Pushes foreskin, Dr. Freud!

                    Gershon Legman, "Bawdy Monologues," Southern Folklore Quarterly 40(1976)

I don't know the time relationship between this and DR. FREUD or which parody parodises the other. The above is clearly based on minstrel show comic dialogs, a parody of Gallagher and Shean's trademark routine. The first half was published in 1927. The second half surfaced in 1947.

ALSO:
The British Amazon: drummer, cabin boy, powder monkey, Mary Anne Talbot born 2/2/1778 (d. Feb 4, 1808)

        My name was Mary Talbot, though some called me Mary Anne,
        And I was born a woman, though some thought I was a man.
        My father was Lord Talbot, though I never saw his face.
        My mother died to bear me, though my sister took her place.
        You may have heard my story, though in part but not in whole,
        For I fought and served my country, though that was not woman's role.

                © Howard Kaplan, Toronto, 1995

Copyright © 2005, Abby Sale - all rights reserved
What are Happy's all about? See Clicky


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Subject: RE: Happy! – Feb 2 (Havelock Ellis / Talbot)
From: Peace
Date: 02 Feb 06 - 03:22 PM

Portrait of Mary Anne Talbot here.


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Subject: RE: Happy! – Feb 2 (Havelock Ellis / Talbot)
From: Peace
Date: 02 Feb 06 - 03:37 PM

"Mary Anne Talbot – John Taylor (Fact or Fiction?).

Mary Anne Talbot's story is probably the most famous, although the facts are either hard to prove or non existent, at the time her story begins England had become enamoured with stories of Female Tar's. I have found news paper articles about her in US news papers of the time as well. Mary Anne spun a long tale of her life in the Royal Navy we will probably never know if any part of her story is true, but it did make for exciting copy at the time. Here is her story…………..



Mary Anne was born in 1778, her Mother having died in childbirth, spent the next several years under the supervision of various guardians. When she was fourteen or fifteen she eloped, in the disguise of a boy, with a captain by the name of Essex Bowen. When Captain Bowen was sent to the West Indies he took her along as his servant, she at this point became John Taylor. In 1793 Essex & Mary returned to Europe both fighting at Valenciennes Bowen was killed at this time. Mary Jane made her way to Luxembourg and joined a French privateer as a cabin boy . This ship was captured by the British , the seventy four gun ship the Brunswick. She served as a powder monkey on the Brunswick, being wounded in Lord Howe's victory of the First of June 1794. For this she later received a small pension. After leaving the Hospital in Gosport, Talbot was assigned to the ship Vesuvius, this ship was then captured by the French. After her capture she spent the next few years in a French Prison. After her release she served as First Mate of the schooner Ariel an American ship. Finally after returning to London, she was set upon by the press gang, and it was then Mary revealed herself as a woman. Talbot's story did not quite end there, as late as 1804 I found a news paper story written in the Columbian Repository, taken from a London Paper it is as follows:



Mary Anne Talbot, who has served several years in the Navy, and been in several engagements , under the name of John Taylor, on Friday returned her seaman's dress, and went down the river in a boat to see the review. The waterman attempted to impose on her and on rejecting his demand he used much abusive language and challenged her to a fight: the proposal was accepted, they landed at the Isle of Dogs for this purpose. Her superior dexterity prevailed and the fellow declared himself beaten and gladly consented to carry her to Greenwich without further payment, she however paid him his fare, and he remitted the small wager which he risked on his battle.



Mary was known to frequent sailors' taverns still in men's clothing. She finally became a household servant to Robert Kirby, a London publisher, who included an account of her adventures in his Wonderful Museum (1804) and in Life and Surprising Adventures of Mary Anne Talbot (1809).

Mary died at the age of thirty in 1808."

from

www.aboutnelson.co.uk/30janetars.htm


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Subject: RE: Happy! – Feb 2 (Havelock Ellis / Talbot)
From: Barry Finn
Date: 02 Feb 06 - 04:45 PM

Thank you both. In the future I'll keep a weather eye open for Mary/John Talbot & iI ever find something new I'll post it.
Barry


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