Folklore: Sorry Muthas--who were they?

Subject: Folklore: Sorry Muthas--who were they?
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 01:11 PM

I'm listening to a recording by Papa John Kolstadt and The Sorry Muthas.

I know John of old---he was usually a solo whenever I saw him. But who were the individuals that comprised the Sorry Muthas?

Art

Subject: RE: Folklore: Sorry Muthas--who were they?
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 02:03 PM

A quick Google gives a very low 67 hits (using "the sorry muthas" complete with quotes) First hit gives Bill Hinkley as a one time member. General quick scan of the headings gives it as a "West Bank Jug Band" of the early 70s

CHEERs

Nigel

Subject: RE: Folklore: Sorry Muthas--who were they?
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 02:51 PM

kolstad

no 't' on the end

Subject: RE: Folklore: Sorry Muthas--who were they?
From: open mike
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 07:08 PM

i do think these folks toured with the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band
at one time. (early 70's) They were from Minneapolis/St.Paul.


Way Out West,by The Rimrock Ramblers
the amazon description of this group
says that the three of them were members
of the Sorry Muthas, an "early 70's folk group"
   (August 1, 2000)    * Label: Swallowtail Records
    * ASIN: B00005YI9D
   
One member apparently was Bill Hinkley now in this duo:
http://mnfolkarts.org/bill_judy/bill_judy.html

one description of their album for sale says this:
Minneapolis Based Jugband with John Kolstad, Cal Hand,
Bill Hinkley, Judy Larson, and the late great "Soupy"
Milton Shindler. They were a wonderful jugband and this
is their only lp

here is more info from info about a book that was to
have been published dec. 2005: (this in from Minnesota)
...musicians who got the folk and music scene going on the legendary West Bank in the 60's and 70's at places such as the Extempore, The Scholar, the New Riverside, and The Triangle Bar. There will be interviews with people who frequented those spots, and have great stories to tell as well.

Some of the musicians featured will include Spider John Koerner, Willie Murphy, perhaps Glover, Bill Hinkley and Judy Larson (the
Sorry Muthas, and instigators of the thriving jugband scene here) anecdotals about Dave Ray from contacts during the 60's, John Beach, and many more . . . many who founded the revival of the blues scene and were part of the burgeoning folk scene across America, are still playing regularly today. Some taught and gave Bonnie Raitt her start, producing and playing on her first album, 1971.


i also found reference to a member of the
Minnesota-based Ivory Bridge Bluegrass Band
"Jim Tordoff ~ picked up the banjo at an early age....Jim tells of great admiration for the legend Bill Hinkley as both teacher and mentor. He is an alumnus of the Middle Spunk Creek Boys, The
Prairie Ferrets, Wolverines Classic Jazz Orchestra, the Sorry Muthas, and the Minnesota Symphony Orchestra under the direction of Gunther Schueler...."

and here is from a play list of Dakota Dave Hull's radio show 2001:
Kolstad, Papa John Beans Taste Fine Beans Taste Fine Wampus Cat
Kolstad, Papa John Lady Be Good         Beans Taste Fine Wampus Cat
Kolstad, Papa John Alabama Women         Beans Taste Fine Wampus Cat
Sorry Muthas Ain't Nothin In Rambilin Greatest Hits V. 3 Symnposium
Sorry Muthas Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex         Greatest Hits V. 3         Symposium
Sorry Muthas         Easy Rider         Greatest Hits V. 3         Symposium

Subject: RE: Folklore: Sorry Muthas--who were they?
From: open mike
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 07:17 PM

The Rimrock Ramblers are Cal Hand (dobro), Bill Hinkley (guitar, mandolin, fiddle,electric bass) and Judy Larson (rhythm guitar). ...

Subject: RE: Folklore: Sorry Muthas--who were they?
From: open mike
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 07:27 PM

see also : Hot Club of East Lake
http://www.clinthoover.com/HotClub.php

Subject: RE: Folklore: Sorry Muthas--who were they?
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 12:46 AM

People, thanks so much. I should've figured it was the Minneapolis folks. I even have known and worked with almost all of them at various places over the many years. This was a cassette someone gave me----with no notes...

All the best,

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: Folklore: Sorry Muthas--who were they?
From: GUEST,Sorry Muthas
Date: 16 May 13 - 05:19 PM

I'm not one of the Sorry Muthas but am speaking for them here. The remaining Sorry Muthas (Cal Hand, Judy Larson, Papa John Kolstad and Bob Stelnicki) will be in concert June 16, 2013 at The Cedar Theater in Minneapolis. This will be a celebration of the release on CD of the album "Mill City Blues" that was released at the same time as "The Sorry Muthas Greatest Hits Vol.3. Bill and Soupy are much missed and we all wish they could be there also.