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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: wysiwyg
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 11:15 AM

Dunno why my testimonial does not appear for wilbyhillbilly but he did a GREAT job for us and I really had to conclude that doing it myself could not produce a result anywhere near as good.

With used CDs available at Amazon I no longer worry about copying tapes to CD. Anything else I need done (need not want), will go to wilbyhillbilly.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 01:14 AM

This is a nice blast from the past - and this is just the software thread. There's another thread around here somewhere that had to do with a computer. :)

SRS


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: GUEST, topsie
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 05:09 PM

Richard Bridge, I think this is the thread you want.

See post at 28 Feb 06 - 06:27 AM


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 02:41 PM

Art--your package arrived yesterday in the mail! I'd send a PM if you could open them, but instead I'll offer an open "thank-you!" I am familiar with a couple of those artists, and I have at least one McClintock recording (was my Dad's). I'll enjoy this sampling of the work you're doing!

How are you fixed for CDs? Ready for a few more spindles yet?

Maggie (SRS)


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Andy Jackson
Date: 15 Jan 07 - 03:28 PM

I can strongly recommend Polderbits

Free download and 28 day trial and only a few quid to licence. Dead easy to use and it splits tracks automatically. I also gives you full control of fade in outs etc.
Try it,

Andy


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 15 Jan 07 - 02:25 PM

I've just opened this thread and noticed Jerry Rasmussen's comments about Cakewalk and totally agree. I've got a copy and it's very cheap and very nasty (the price isn't though) and in Britain the back up support is non-existent.

I scrapped it recently and moved on to Cool Edit which is much less fiddly to use and has features which the makers of my edition of Cakewalk obviously never heard of.


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Jan 07 - 02:53 AM

Bill D usually has a good selection of free programs in use on his computer that he will happily recommend. If he doesn't turn up here soon you might want to PM him.

SRS


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Pauline L
Date: 15 Jan 07 - 12:38 AM

I need some help with transferring music from cassette tapes to CDs. I have Roxio (the free version) and a couple of other free software packages for burning CDs. My question is: How do I input the data (music) from my cassettes into my computer, store it, and convert it to the appropriate format? What kind of software and hardware do I need? To all those generous folks who sent money to Art to fund his project, I have this to say: Would someone consider sending me some money for this? I've been unemployed for five f*g years and I can't do much of anything without money!


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 03 Oct 06 - 05:49 PM

Folks, I just came up for air!! My last post here was as in August. I've been converting my cassettes to CD nonstop ever since.

This software is unbelievable. You can use it for an amazing number of different things.

Again, all of you, THANKS so very much.

Now back to my tasks...

Art


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 01:55 AM

To all of the participants in sending the software and materials to Art, here's a nice update from the artist himself. You hear about micro-funding of projects in the third world, but sometimes it is just what is called for here at home, and it looks like it is having the desired effect--he's enjoying himself and he's saving those cassettes to CD at the same time. I find I'm positively beside myself with pleasure at the idea of all of the treasures he is going to discover as he does this work.

As one who can't resist a good pun, this one is being repeated. The Mudcat Endowment of the Art was brought to a folkie near you by:

SRS with great assistance from
Jerry Rasmussen
MMario
Katlaughing
Rapaire
Joybell & Hildebrand
Ron Davies

and I hope I didn't miss anyone.


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Apr 06 - 12:09 PM

I put a printout of the entire thread in the mail to Art this morning.

Our little enterprise has been successfully concluded, at least from the Fort Worth contingent. Not sure how long it will take the materials from Oz to wend their way north and eastward.


Thanks, everyone!

SRS


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 31 Mar 06 - 06:45 PM

Okay, I got past the sinus stuff (I'm on a second batch of antibiotics) so I was able to make my way to the post office this afternoon. I put two packages in the mail, Art. One has envelopes, and the other has envelopes. Actually, one has the CD sleeves we discussed (they can hold two CDs, or can hold a CD and a page with info about the CD so you don't scratch your CD) and the other contains about 10 cardboard mailers for CDs. I thought they might come in handy.

By the way, the box with the sleeves is a Certified Mudcat Recycled Parcel™, having come first from MMario with a shawl I purchased through the Mudcat auction.

(If all of the appearances of "CD" in this post seems a bit much, consider the following: I work with two women at the library, one who goes by CD, the other goes by Diane. CD's email is "CatherineX@uta.edu" and Diane's email is "CDso-and-so@uta.edu" . I have a heckuva time remembering who I'm talking to when I look at the address list at work.)

SRS


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Mar 06 - 03:01 PM

Art,

I see from your other thread that you have music ready to share right now!

I meant to write last week--the sinus fog was heaviest and I didn't write much--thank you so much for the copy of your CD. I love it!

Maggie (SRS)


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Mar 06 - 09:43 PM

If you get a hankering to start burning CDs, just pop the program CD in and the software will pretty much install itself. Then have Jerry give you a call and talk you through the first one. You'll be amazed and wonder why it took you so long to get to it.

SRS


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 23 Mar 06 - 03:03 PM

And thanks to you all once again for doing this. You have provided me with all kinds of incentive to have fun transferring some things. I've not installed the software yet. Right now we are too all consumed dealing with life stuff to even start yet. Chris WILL get here and do what needs to be done, if not sooner, then later will be fine too. Right now the energy isn't there to do much but "take it slow and easy"---as the old song says.

On an existential note, it is strange but all the talk of degrading CDs doesn't bother me anywhere near how it would've hit me 20 or 30 years ago. When 45 rpm records went out, I saw the value of LPs but mourned the passing of the old technology. Then my favorite LPs would get gouged, and I knew it was the end of the world. (It wasn't, of course. It was only the end of the world as I knew it.) Eventually, all the music I loved got stuck onto reel-to-reel tapes. They didn't last, so I saved what I could to cassettes.

Being on the road for a living, I tended to give away (potlatch) all the old items of the various media. It seemed in keeping with showing others what I had found. Rich Remsberg got ALL the reel-to-reel tapes. The LPs went everywhere.

Now CDs are showing their true fallible faces to us. ------ And I can't get bent out of shape too much.

The humor comes shining through, though! (Or should that read "though through"?) What a difference an "r" makes---for whatever that's worth.

The more things change, the more they get different!! (But only sometimes.) With all the music I have hear now, I am certain I'd never get to play half of it before it was time for me to click off this "motel soil"---to paraphrase Shakespeare. Life, sometimes, does seem like an overnight stay in a most fascinating wilderness campsite...

Art (with thanks for you all)


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: JudyB
Date: 23 Mar 06 - 09:10 AM

Jerry -

I'm sorry but not surprised to learn that Maxell discs didn't work for you - I do think there's some mystical compatibility factor with various burners - and/or software packages (I use Nero to burn the discs). The Memorex discs that were such a problem for me have worked all right for other folks. I guess the lesson here is to buy a modest amount and do a lot of checking before investing in hundreds of any particular type.

Thanks for letting us know of your experience with Maxell discs - I'll include it as another perspective when I recommend them in the future.

JudyB


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Mar 06 - 10:11 PM

I still have to mail one box to Art--the cold & sinus crud has kept me close to home and out of public places like stores and schools for the last ocuple of weeks. Then, once he stops staring at the galactic goop in his lava lamp, he will have some sleeves to slip his newly burned disks into. :)

SRS


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 22 Mar 06 - 11:58 AM

By the By:

I'm burning CDs of the Gospel Messengers album I did with Easy Media. I read with great interest all the recommendations for blank printable CDs, and started out with 30 Maxell blanks. People have said that they've had great success with them, and I believe it. Out of those 30 CDs, 3 didn't read correctly and had to be discarded.
Maybe that was just a fluke.

Since then, I bought blank, printable CDs in volume from Discmakers, and so far have had no problems. I've printed over 30 at this point, with no missfires.

This is not to refute the reliability of Maxell.. just to comment on the good results I'm getting with the discs from discmakers.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 05:49 PM

..or chisels and stone...


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 11:04 PM

In the end the world is going to be saved by those of us Luddites who still use books, paper, pens, vinyl, and cameras with film.

;-D


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Greg F.
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 06:46 PM

Jerry-

I don't have the technical knowledge to answer your question about the multiple-copy machines. Sorry.

I think I made some notes from some articles on this subject of CD longevity not all that long ago- question is can I find 'em in this midden.

I DO recall from one of 'em that "Mitsui Gold" blank CD's were recommended as about the best for longevity in the home-burned class- but don't know if that info is still current.

I'll dig around, but if I don't post something in 24-48 hrs the search was unsuccessful.

This is a hot issue in the digital photo archiving area as well, as you might expect, and as I recall - again, my memory ain't what it used to be and probably never was - there were recommendations of using a high-end hard drive 7200RPM or better- for long-term starage.

Best,

Greg


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 01:53 PM

Jerry,

The friend I spoke to from the printing press at work (referred to earlier in this thread) who buys CDs in bulk uses those multiple copy machines that burns the CD then prints the label on the white side. The press buys disks that are good, but not the best, he said. They're not used for masters, they're used for copies. So that may be your answer, in a nutshell. It depends on what they burn to.

SRS


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: JudyB
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 01:49 PM

Large external hard drives are becoming quite affordable, and you can transfer a lot of data to them quite rapidly (at least compared to the old days!). The master copies of everything I've recorded (and some cassettes I've converted to CD for friends) are on the hard drive of my computer, with copies on one or more of the external drives we have at home - and on the set of external drives we keep at Charley's mom's house just in case some disaster strikes our house.

I doubt if the life expectancy of an individual hard drive is all that great (at least when compared with the 78s I inherited from my parents and the 45s of my youth) - but with the redundancy factor we built in, I'm comfortable with that as a strategy.

Probably a bit of thread drift, but if you do have irreplaceable stuff on your computer, I think that having fairly current backup copies stored out of range of any probable disasters that could befall your computer is a really good idea.

JudyB


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 01:44 PM

Much thanks though Greg, for filing the disclaimer about the life span of home made CDs. I may re-think doing Handful of Songs and have it done commercially. Some of the other projects I'm working on may not have a longer life span than five or seven years, anyway. Do you have any idea whether multiple copy machines that are used by small companies have any greater life span than ones done on a computer?

Jerry


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 01:04 PM

I have a home-made CD from 2001 that still works fine. I don't doubt what you're saying, Greg. There must be a fair amount of variation in the life-span of home-made CDs. I've stopped buying inexpensive blank CDs, and for the ones I'm producing, I'm buying the best quality I can find. I'm wondering... Discmakers seems to be a reputable producer of CDs, and you can buy blank CDs from them at a reasonable price. If they are the same blanks that they use, then either they are of good enough quality to last longer, or their own products have a short shelf life. Or are companies like Discmaker "commercial" manufacturers who use a different process, so you're alright.

Maybe it's a good idea to burn a new "master" CD every couple of years. I've done that with cassettes. I don't see saving cassettes indefinitely. I KNOW that they deteriorate seriously, from experience.

Besides most music goes completely out of fashion in 5 years, anyway .. :-)

Jerry


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 12:28 PM

So what are you doing? Storing stuff on vinyl? :)


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Greg F.
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 12:12 PM

The research has been done- a number of times. "Google" it - but stay away from manufacturer's sites, for obvious reasons. Number of good blurbs from archive & library sites.

Will some home-made (not commercially made- different process) CD's last longer than the 2-5 years without significant degredation? Yes- depending on the specifics of the disc/data layer composition & manufacture, on optimal storage conditions, blind luck, etc...

Most won't.

Your Mileage May Vary.


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 09:34 AM

On the other hand, I have home-burned CDs that have been around here for much longer than that and not a single one of them has died that horrible death. I think it's time to do a little research.

SRS


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Greg F.
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 09:05 AM

For those of you thinking of "archiving" music on home-"burned" CD's, keep in mind that "long life" and "CD" are incompatible terms.

On the whole, CD's will only go 2-5 years without beginning to self-destruct & lose data, as a lot of museums, archives and libraries- who rushed to "digitize" collections- are discovering to their sorrow.

Good luck-

Greg


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 09:50 AM

He's not firing them, he's burning them, and they'll be hot stuff when they're finished!

I'm glad to know the disks got there.

Let us know if you need help installing the software, Art, if your son can't get there soon. It really is pretty straightforward with any of these programs these days. I have a friend who has offered to drive over and help (and I think he'd like to chew the fat about the Chicago folk scene, also. . .)

SRS


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 07:02 AM

You firin' blanks now Art? :-)


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 12:38 AM

Ms. Dwyer,

YES the blanks got here!! I had thought I rendered my appreciation to you in a thread---maybe this very one. But possibly another one on this same topic. (My recent memory is atrocious now. ) But I'm pretty sure (I hope) that a small package is wending it's way in your direction right now.

Art


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 11:42 AM

A week to finish your floors? I've been in this house for four years and still haven't finished finishing the floors! (I have cut tiles in various areas to stick down, and in the front hall I have to scrape up old adhesive from parquet to put down thinset and tile). Then there is the sunroom. . .

At least you'll be able to plug in a CD player somewhere and have nice music to listen to while you work! The first year in this house I didn't have cable and didn't miss it--I was so busy and listening to the radio or my own tapes or CDs just fit the tasks so much better.

SRS


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 09:13 AM

Thanks for all you've done, Maggie (and all the rest.) Yes, there is always plenty of help here in the pond.

I bought an Epson printer last week (part of the discussion on another thread I started) and am anxious to get it up and running. I have three CDs ready to put out ... two done with the software discussed here, and I'm anxious to get to work.

These last three days, we've torn our house apart, clearing out our dining room, Master bedroom and a long haulway and have sanded, striped down and stained the floors. Tomorrow we put the sealer on and then start applying the polyurethane. Four layers later and two or three days to let the floor "cure" and we can put things back where they were. I figure that a week from this Monday, we'll be normal human beings again, and I can get back to my music projects..

Jerry


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Mar 06 - 11:07 PM

By now hopefully the CDs have arrived at Art's abode, to join with the software. Our friends Joybell and Hildebrand from Down Under are sending along some CD sleeves, and I'll also be mailing some next week. I would have called Art this weekend to ask if the disks arrived, but alas, I have caught a bug and lost my voice completely. He'd answer the phone and hear heavy breathing and a croak or two and would hang up for sure! (I had to have my daughter make two phone calls for me this morning!)

This portion of the "Nudge Assist Art into with Copying his Cassettes onto CD" project is nearly complete. Depending on how his work goes, we may want to revisit stocking disks every so often, but with everything that Art has to keep him busy, it'll take him a little while to go through the first 200 we sent so far.

Thanks to Jerry Rasmussen, MMario, Ron Davies, Katlaughing, Rapaire, and Joy and Hildebrand for helping with this worthy project. Art, if you need help or advice, don't hesitate to ask. All of the work is ahead, and I hope I speak for all of us in saying that we don't want to pile you down with work without offering our continued support and expertise, such as it is. :)

Maggie (Stilly River Sage)


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 05 Mar 06 - 10:50 PM

I got me a lesson on inexpensive CDs yesterday. A year ago, we had a professional recording done on CD of one of our concerts. I wanted to take some tracks from it for a CD I'm doing and had misplaced the original CD. I had a copy of it on an inexpensive CD, just a year old. Even though the track that I wanted to use played back fine, when I tried to import it into my software to add to the CD I'm working on, the single kept skipping and wouldn't record the whole track. That sent me looking more thoroughly for the original CD, which I found. I copied the same track off the original, with no problem.

No more cheap blank CDs for me.

What if I made one and sent it to someone I like? :-0

Jerry


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: JohnB
Date: 05 Mar 06 - 09:58 PM

I got rid of some low end hum with a bit of eq tweaking.
Not sure about the programmes you are using. You can do some eq'ing with Audacity which is available as a free download. Try dropping the area around 20 -40 Hz in -3dB steps untill you like or don't like what is left.
God Luck, JohnB.


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 05 Mar 06 - 02:18 AM

Stilly-R-S, Jerry, MMario, Rapaire and others involved,

You are too much! The software arrived in fine shape and I talked to Jerry and SRS tonight (Saturday) although it's Sunday now. It looks like this will be amazing to work with. Chris, our son, will get it up and running when he can get out here---and I'll be off to the races...

Again, thanks so much!!

No need to send harpies---er, I mean Sharpies. And please don't   send herpes either. Between Carol and I, we have plenty maladies already.-----(Just one more o' my sick jokes. ;-)

Love to you all.
I'll slowly get into it and we will see what we will see.

Art


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Mar 06 - 11:00 PM

That is exactly the same problem I was having. I started my copying/editing using Wave Editor in an older version of Nero. Last year in February we had a burglary and that computer and my files went out the door. Nothing has been recovered, but I replaced the computer and put in Nero again. I haven't gotten back to working with the cassettes, but I did resolve to make it easier on myself by running cable from the good receiver with the equalizer in the other room to the computer. Eliminating as much hum and buzz at that source as possible should help. The cassette player I used at first was part of a compact multiple system unit but it had few settings to deal with the noise.

I'm planning to get back into some of that work soon, so I'll report back with my results.

SRS


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: bobad
Date: 04 Mar 06 - 04:28 PM

SRS

You mentioned that you are using Nero, I too am trying to do wave editing with Nero but I can't quite get the noise subtraction feature perfected. I am primarily trying to get rid of a low frequency hum that is not due to a ground loop problem and wonder if you might have some tips or advice from your experience.

I am using Nero 6 and the version of Nero Wave Editor is 2.0.0.51


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Mar 06 - 04:10 PM

Part two is underway--I ordered CDs through Staples and they should arrive at Art's place on Tuesday. In the price-comparison department they came up with the best price when combined with free delivery and being a reputable name-brand establishment.

The software should have arrived by now.

I'll work on the sleeves and markers this weekend.

SRS


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 04 Mar 06 - 12:17 PM

Hey, Stilly:

I', amazed that I could get as good a sound as I did. The two tracks done with Luke Faust come from a 40 year old Radio Shack Normal Bias cassette which was in turn a copy from a reel to reel tape. Even with the songs that were recorded at a great distance from the microphones in a large auditorium, you can birng the sound in and amplify it to sound far better than the original.

I am just doing a final mix on a Gospel Messengers CD and played it for the guys and some friends who were here for practice this morning. One of my friends is a computer genius, and he tried to use Cakewalk and gave up on it, as I did. He was in charge of the music ministry in this church for many years so he brings a deep knowledge of both the music and computers. I showed him quicly how
Easy Media Creator works and he was sold. The quality of sound on the Messengers CD is much better than what I was able to get on the first CD (the one I sent you.) Most of it came from cassettes, and some of the CD recordings were even harder because they were recorded so far from the stage and at such a low volume. The CD is very consistent in sound, despite the variety of sources.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Mar 06 - 10:05 AM

Jerry, your CDs sound very good. How old were the tapes you made them from? What kind of popping and hiss did you have to remove? You can't do anything about the mic being a distance from the performer, so you can hear the room accoustics, but there is no hiss in these at all.

These really do make the case for this software and media selection we've been discussing.

SRS


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Mar 06 - 09:54 AM

Oops. Sorry Robin. I was thinking of the software the thread started about. You're absolutely correct about the CDs. In fact, I called the press where they do the commercial duplications and asked about the disks they use. My friend there said they buy them 50,000 at a time and would sell me a case, but he figured that while the price would be less in bulk, the cost of these reflects the fact that they are printable. We'd be better off putting those pennies into the better recording side, not a writing side. I agree with him.

Things are shaping up here, and in the next day or two Art should get the first part of this order, the software. Part B (CDs, sleeves, and markers) will be soon on its heels.

SRS


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Mar 06 - 09:50 AM

I don't think that's the case, Fools.

Ron, your letter got here. Thanks!

SRS


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 01 Mar 06 - 07:53 AM

Penny wise, Sound foolish!


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 10:22 PM

I've spent most of today putting together a Gospel Messengers CD, which is long overdue. I am contually impressed with the Easy Media software. I've been taking tracks from a CD done of a live performance at a benefit concert that we did, and was frustrated by the initial sound. It was recorded with one stereo mic placed about 15 feet away from us and it sounds like we're singing in Grand Central Station. Also, on the songs where my bass singer sings leads, the harmonies are louder than the lead. By boosting the bass in the mix, I can bring Joe up in front of us, even though I have no individual tracks to work with.

The other thing that I'm starting to realize is that CDs weren't invented by God. They are definitely not infallible. In some cases, I'm having more trouble using tracks from copies of CDs of live performances (not the one done by Dennis Cook in Washington, D.C., by the way which is impeccable) than of some of the cassettes. I suspect that the copies wre made on Walmart fire sale blank CDs and have enough erros in them that I can't copy some of the tracks. All of this is invaluable to me, as are many comments on this thread. I'm going to stick with Maxell for all my copies, including those made for friends. For a few pennies more per CD, I feel more comfortable about the quality.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 10:00 PM

Sorry---that was me in the post above!

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 09:58 PM

whb,

Thanks for your way too generous offer. I had been to your website before --- back when I was thinking of having my wife's John McCormick LPs transferred to CDs. But our son took 'em and might be doing that--I hope. We will see...

Actually, I don't need to transfer anything of mine to CDs. Dennis Cook in Maryland graciously took the eleven 90-minute cassettes I had of never before issued live stuff of mine and put it all on CDs. Through the kindness of Mr. Cook, my soon to be released CD was culled from some of that material.

So I will s-l-o-w-l-y make CDs from the things I've "collected" from singers over the years---and also from guests on my old NPR radio shows of the 1980s---etc. It'll be fun to try to make it work.

Again, thanks for your offer!!!!!
Art


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Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: wilbyhillbilly
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 06:27 AM

Art, if you find you need to transfer more than you can handle, please let me know and I would consider it an honour to help archive your brilliant work.

If you need testimonials for peace of mind you can see some here

I am sure that I could produce an acceptable finished article on CD and would consider it a priviledge to be involved.

There would of course be no cost to yourself I will pay any postage involved.

The only thing that might put you off is that I am in the UK, but having said that I am doing work for loads of people in USA, Canada, and even India.

Anyway, the offer is there should you want to take it up. In the meantime have fun with your project and if I can be of any help whatsoever don't hesitate to contact me.

whb


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