Lyrics & Knowledge Personal Pages Record Shop Auction Links Radio & Media Kids Membership Help
The Mudcat Cafesj

Post to this Thread - Sort Descending - Printer Friendly - Home


Sitting At The Kitchen Table

Jerry Rasmussen 25 Feb 06 - 09:18 AM
Ron Davies 25 Feb 06 - 09:28 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Feb 06 - 09:30 AM
Donuel 25 Feb 06 - 09:33 AM
Ron Davies 25 Feb 06 - 09:39 AM
Ron Davies 25 Feb 06 - 09:43 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Feb 06 - 09:44 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Feb 06 - 09:47 AM
Ron Davies 25 Feb 06 - 09:48 AM
Raptor 25 Feb 06 - 09:50 AM
Ron Davies 25 Feb 06 - 09:53 AM
Amos 25 Feb 06 - 09:55 AM
Ron Davies 25 Feb 06 - 09:59 AM
Ron Davies 25 Feb 06 - 10:03 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Feb 06 - 10:04 AM
Raptor 25 Feb 06 - 10:16 AM
Raptor 25 Feb 06 - 10:18 AM
Ron Davies 25 Feb 06 - 10:25 AM
Ron Davies 25 Feb 06 - 10:28 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Feb 06 - 10:30 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Feb 06 - 10:32 AM
Clinton Hammond 25 Feb 06 - 10:35 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Feb 06 - 10:36 AM
Ron Davies 25 Feb 06 - 10:38 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Feb 06 - 10:38 AM
gnu 25 Feb 06 - 10:40 AM
Ron Davies 25 Feb 06 - 10:49 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Feb 06 - 10:51 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Feb 06 - 11:11 AM
Ron Davies 25 Feb 06 - 11:17 AM
LilyFestre 25 Feb 06 - 11:27 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Feb 06 - 11:33 AM
jimmyt 25 Feb 06 - 11:42 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Feb 06 - 11:50 AM
rumanci 25 Feb 06 - 11:58 AM
David C. Carter 25 Feb 06 - 12:02 PM
Ebbie 25 Feb 06 - 12:04 PM
Ron Davies 25 Feb 06 - 12:16 PM
Ron Davies 25 Feb 06 - 12:21 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Feb 06 - 12:22 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Feb 06 - 12:23 PM
Ron Davies 25 Feb 06 - 12:27 PM
Ron Davies 25 Feb 06 - 12:28 PM
Ebbie 25 Feb 06 - 12:32 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Feb 06 - 12:56 PM
David C. Carter 25 Feb 06 - 01:02 PM
ranger1 25 Feb 06 - 01:16 PM
GUEST,KT 25 Feb 06 - 02:01 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Feb 06 - 02:14 PM
lady penelope 25 Feb 06 - 02:18 PM
gnu 25 Feb 06 - 02:37 PM
Ron Davies 25 Feb 06 - 03:27 PM
Cluin 25 Feb 06 - 03:53 PM
jimmyt 25 Feb 06 - 05:31 PM
David C. Carter 25 Feb 06 - 05:39 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Feb 06 - 05:40 PM
Ebbie 25 Feb 06 - 06:39 PM
SINSULL 25 Feb 06 - 08:24 PM
Cluin 25 Feb 06 - 08:35 PM
Rapparee 25 Feb 06 - 10:10 PM
gnu 25 Feb 06 - 10:59 PM
*daylia* 26 Feb 06 - 06:56 AM
*daylia* 26 Feb 06 - 07:00 AM
Sandra in Sydney 26 Feb 06 - 07:52 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Feb 06 - 08:15 AM
Ron Davies 26 Feb 06 - 11:23 AM
Jeanie 26 Feb 06 - 12:10 PM
GUEST,KT 26 Feb 06 - 12:39 PM
leftydee 26 Feb 06 - 12:56 PM
open mike 26 Feb 06 - 12:58 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Feb 06 - 01:07 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Feb 06 - 01:16 PM
*Laura* 26 Feb 06 - 01:30 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Feb 06 - 01:35 PM
leftydee 26 Feb 06 - 02:31 PM
leftydee 26 Feb 06 - 02:50 PM
Little Hawk 26 Feb 06 - 03:00 PM
lady penelope 26 Feb 06 - 06:02 PM
Snuffy 26 Feb 06 - 07:06 PM
number 6 26 Feb 06 - 08:29 PM
Rapparee 26 Feb 06 - 08:29 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Feb 06 - 09:06 PM
Bobert 26 Feb 06 - 09:10 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Feb 06 - 09:18 PM
Amos 26 Feb 06 - 11:19 PM
Ron Davies 26 Feb 06 - 11:37 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 27 Feb 06 - 08:32 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 27 Feb 06 - 08:48 AM
Amos 27 Feb 06 - 09:42 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 27 Feb 06 - 04:56 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 27 Feb 06 - 04:57 PM
Charmion 27 Feb 06 - 05:42 PM
Micca 27 Feb 06 - 06:05 PM
GUEST,Joe_F 27 Feb 06 - 08:55 PM
kendall 27 Feb 06 - 09:02 PM
kendall 27 Feb 06 - 09:18 PM
Ron Davies 28 Feb 06 - 12:00 AM
GUEST,Kt 28 Feb 06 - 01:06 AM
Amos 28 Feb 06 - 01:53 AM
GUEST,King Table 28 Feb 06 - 06:50 AM
kendall 28 Feb 06 - 08:56 AM
Rapparee 28 Feb 06 - 09:01 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Feb 06 - 09:16 AM
Rapparee 28 Feb 06 - 09:27 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Feb 06 - 09:32 AM
Amos 28 Feb 06 - 09:33 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Feb 06 - 10:30 AM
Amos 28 Feb 06 - 11:42 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Feb 06 - 12:10 PM
Rapparee 28 Feb 06 - 02:37 PM
Bill D 28 Feb 06 - 02:51 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Feb 06 - 11:04 PM
Bill D 28 Feb 06 - 11:15 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Mar 06 - 12:07 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Mar 06 - 08:50 PM
Rapparee 01 Mar 06 - 09:44 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Mar 06 - 10:35 PM
Ron Davies 01 Mar 06 - 11:24 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Mar 06 - 11:56 PM
Ron Davies 02 Mar 06 - 10:20 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 02 Mar 06 - 10:34 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 03 Mar 06 - 10:30 AM
Leadfingers 04 Mar 06 - 06:09 AM
Ron Davies 04 Mar 06 - 07:56 AM
Ron Davies 04 Mar 06 - 08:01 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Mar 06 - 08:04 AM
Big Al Whittle 04 Mar 06 - 08:20 AM
kendall 04 Mar 06 - 09:57 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Mar 06 - 12:28 PM
Elmer Fudd 05 Mar 06 - 01:39 AM
Big Al Whittle 05 Mar 06 - 07:32 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 05 Mar 06 - 12:05 PM
Leadfingers 05 Mar 06 - 02:56 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 05 Mar 06 - 08:58 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 Mar 06 - 10:25 AM
GUEST,Art Thieme 06 Mar 06 - 11:57 AM
Ron Davies 06 Mar 06 - 11:20 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 07 Mar 06 - 08:30 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 07 Mar 06 - 08:11 PM
Ebbie 07 Mar 06 - 11:28 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Mar 06 - 06:52 AM
leftydee 08 Mar 06 - 12:03 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Mar 06 - 08:31 PM
ranger1 09 Mar 06 - 09:06 AM
GUEST,Modest but proud 09 Mar 06 - 09:41 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 09 Mar 06 - 05:46 PM
Big Al Whittle 10 Mar 06 - 05:49 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 10 Mar 06 - 06:35 AM
Bobert 10 Mar 06 - 08:12 AM
SINSULL 10 Mar 06 - 09:04 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 10 Mar 06 - 09:14 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 10 Mar 06 - 11:56 AM
GUEST,mg 10 Mar 06 - 02:48 PM
Ron Davies 10 Mar 06 - 11:49 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 Mar 06 - 07:51 AM
billybob 11 Mar 06 - 11:13 AM
Ron Davies 12 Mar 06 - 07:31 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Mar 06 - 09:23 AM
Ron Davies 12 Mar 06 - 09:50 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Mar 06 - 02:06 PM
Naemanson 12 Mar 06 - 03:06 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Mar 06 - 06:21 PM
Naemanson 12 Mar 06 - 08:07 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Mar 06 - 08:51 PM
Ebbie 12 Mar 06 - 10:07 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Mar 06 - 10:35 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Mar 06 - 10:37 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Mar 06 - 10:46 PM
Phot 13 Mar 06 - 04:05 AM
Naemanson 13 Mar 06 - 04:25 AM
Big Al Whittle 13 Mar 06 - 05:31 AM
David C. Carter 13 Mar 06 - 06:29 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Mar 06 - 06:39 AM
David C. Carter 13 Mar 06 - 06:52 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Mar 06 - 07:08 AM
David C. Carter 13 Mar 06 - 07:26 AM
ranger1 13 Mar 06 - 09:43 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Mar 06 - 10:12 AM
Leadfingers 13 Mar 06 - 12:47 PM
Charley Noble 13 Mar 06 - 04:01 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Mar 06 - 04:19 PM
Charley Noble 13 Mar 06 - 05:32 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Mar 06 - 05:39 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Mar 06 - 10:18 PM
Naemanson 14 Mar 06 - 04:48 AM
Charley Noble 14 Mar 06 - 08:51 AM
billybob 14 Mar 06 - 03:31 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 14 Mar 06 - 05:53 PM
Charley Noble 14 Mar 06 - 08:51 PM
GUEST,Jim 15 Mar 06 - 12:28 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 15 Mar 06 - 01:19 PM
Naemanson 15 Mar 06 - 07:01 PM
Col K 15 Mar 06 - 07:13 PM
Ebbie 15 Mar 06 - 07:44 PM
AllisonA(Animaterra) 16 Mar 06 - 07:15 PM
Ron Davies 16 Mar 06 - 11:31 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 Mar 06 - 09:41 AM
Naemanson 17 Mar 06 - 06:11 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 Mar 06 - 10:47 PM
Ron Davies 17 Mar 06 - 11:04 PM
AllisonA(Animaterra) 18 Mar 06 - 06:36 AM
billybob 18 Mar 06 - 08:55 AM
Ron Davies 18 Mar 06 - 10:55 AM
billybob 18 Mar 06 - 02:40 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Mar 06 - 03:44 PM
Ron Davies 19 Mar 06 - 12:33 PM
Naemanson 19 Mar 06 - 03:24 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Mar 06 - 03:58 PM
Ron Davies 19 Mar 06 - 07:52 PM
Ebbie 19 Mar 06 - 10:29 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Mar 06 - 11:21 PM
billybob 20 Mar 06 - 01:57 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Mar 06 - 03:04 PM
billybob 20 Mar 06 - 03:32 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Mar 06 - 03:38 PM
jimmyt 20 Mar 06 - 10:22 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Mar 06 - 10:27 PM
jimmyt 20 Mar 06 - 10:33 PM
ranger1 21 Mar 06 - 10:32 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Mar 06 - 11:27 AM
ranger1 21 Mar 06 - 11:41 AM
David C. Carter 21 Mar 06 - 01:21 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Mar 06 - 01:33 PM
Naemanson 21 Mar 06 - 05:53 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Mar 06 - 06:07 PM
billybob 21 Mar 06 - 08:32 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Mar 06 - 11:01 PM
Ron Davies 21 Mar 06 - 11:31 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Mar 06 - 11:49 PM
Ron Davies 22 Mar 06 - 06:33 AM
Ron Davies 22 Mar 06 - 07:05 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 22 Mar 06 - 08:42 AM
Ebbie 22 Mar 06 - 11:26 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 22 Mar 06 - 11:50 AM
Ebbie 22 Mar 06 - 12:03 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 23 Mar 06 - 11:16 AM
Ron Davies 24 Mar 06 - 11:36 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Mar 06 - 11:46 AM
lady penelope 24 Mar 06 - 04:30 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Mar 06 - 04:45 PM
Naemanson 24 Mar 06 - 07:05 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Mar 06 - 08:21 PM
billybob 25 Mar 06 - 05:58 AM
Leadfingers 25 Mar 06 - 06:43 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Mar 06 - 11:08 AM
Leadfingers 25 Mar 06 - 02:15 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Mar 06 - 02:29 PM
lady penelope 25 Mar 06 - 05:14 PM
Naemanson 25 Mar 06 - 08:07 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Mar 06 - 10:00 PM
GUEST,Art Thieme 25 Mar 06 - 10:25 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Mar 06 - 07:06 AM
lady penelope 26 Mar 06 - 09:55 AM
jimmyt 26 Mar 06 - 10:26 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Mar 06 - 11:17 AM
jimmyt 26 Mar 06 - 01:10 PM
jimmyt 26 Mar 06 - 01:14 PM
David C. Carter 26 Mar 06 - 01:58 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Mar 06 - 02:07 PM
David C. Carter 26 Mar 06 - 02:19 PM
Naemanson 26 Mar 06 - 06:32 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Mar 06 - 08:12 PM
jimmyt 26 Mar 06 - 08:51 PM
jimmyt 27 Mar 06 - 07:31 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 27 Mar 06 - 08:34 AM
billybob 27 Mar 06 - 06:33 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Mar 06 - 08:55 AM
billybob 28 Mar 06 - 09:16 AM
Elmer Fudd 28 Mar 06 - 10:34 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Mar 06 - 11:12 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Mar 06 - 11:21 AM
GUEST,maire-aine 28 Mar 06 - 12:15 PM
Elmer Fudd 28 Mar 06 - 04:31 PM
jimmyt 28 Mar 06 - 09:11 PM
Ron Davies 28 Mar 06 - 11:44 PM
Ron Davies 28 Mar 06 - 11:45 PM
Big Al Whittle 29 Mar 06 - 03:40 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 29 Mar 06 - 09:54 AM
billybob 29 Mar 06 - 05:11 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 29 Mar 06 - 05:26 PM
Ron Davies 29 Mar 06 - 11:59 PM
Ron Davies 30 Mar 06 - 12:02 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 Mar 06 - 07:02 AM
lady penelope 30 Mar 06 - 04:37 PM
Ron Davies 30 Mar 06 - 11:12 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 31 Mar 06 - 09:13 AM
Ron Davies 31 Mar 06 - 11:26 PM
billybob 01 Apr 06 - 08:05 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Apr 06 - 10:15 AM
Ebbie 01 Apr 06 - 10:50 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Apr 06 - 12:37 PM
Ebbie 02 Apr 06 - 03:13 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 02 Apr 06 - 08:41 AM
Ebbie 02 Apr 06 - 01:11 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 02 Apr 06 - 02:28 PM
KT 02 Apr 06 - 04:06 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 02 Apr 06 - 05:33 PM
Ebbie 02 Apr 06 - 05:40 PM
Ron Davies 02 Apr 06 - 11:55 PM
Ebbie 03 Apr 06 - 01:29 AM
Ron Davies 03 Apr 06 - 06:27 AM
billybob 03 Apr 06 - 08:37 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 03 Apr 06 - 08:48 PM
Ebbie 03 Apr 06 - 08:56 PM
billybob 03 Apr 06 - 09:07 PM
Ron Davies 03 Apr 06 - 10:46 PM
Raptor 03 Apr 06 - 11:15 PM
Ebbie 04 Apr 06 - 03:38 AM
billybob 04 Apr 06 - 05:27 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Apr 06 - 08:24 AM
Ebbie 04 Apr 06 - 11:08 AM
GUEST,Ron Davies 04 Apr 06 - 10:38 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Apr 06 - 10:43 PM
billybob 05 Apr 06 - 06:37 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 05 Apr 06 - 09:19 PM
Ebbie 05 Apr 06 - 09:37 PM
GUEST,Ron Davies 05 Apr 06 - 11:30 PM
Elmer Fudd 06 Apr 06 - 01:43 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 Apr 06 - 08:20 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 Apr 06 - 08:25 AM
GUEST,Ron Davies 06 Apr 06 - 11:28 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 07 Apr 06 - 09:10 AM
GUEST,Ron Davies 07 Apr 06 - 11:53 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Apr 06 - 06:52 AM
Donuel 08 Apr 06 - 07:59 AM
jimmyt 08 Apr 06 - 08:05 AM
billybob 08 Apr 06 - 09:06 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Apr 06 - 09:08 AM
GUEST,Ron Davies 08 Apr 06 - 01:10 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Apr 06 - 03:28 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Apr 06 - 10:23 PM
Naemanson 08 Apr 06 - 10:47 PM
GUEST,Ron Davies 09 Apr 06 - 05:57 AM
GUEST,Ron Davies 09 Apr 06 - 08:24 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 09 Apr 06 - 08:28 PM
GUEST,Ron Davies 11 Apr 06 - 12:15 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 Apr 06 - 08:53 AM
GUEST,Ron Davies 11 Apr 06 - 11:30 PM
Ebbie 11 Apr 06 - 11:36 PM
jimmyt 11 Apr 06 - 11:48 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Apr 06 - 09:37 PM
GUEST,Ron Davies 13 Apr 06 - 12:11 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Apr 06 - 10:57 AM
Ebbie 13 Apr 06 - 01:13 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Apr 06 - 01:41 PM
Ebbie 13 Apr 06 - 02:04 PM
Leadfingers 13 Apr 06 - 08:17 PM
freda underhill 13 Apr 06 - 08:51 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Apr 06 - 10:02 PM
freda underhill 13 Apr 06 - 10:14 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Apr 06 - 10:27 PM
GUEST,Ron Davies 13 Apr 06 - 11:09 PM
Ebbie 14 Apr 06 - 12:23 AM
freda underhill 14 Apr 06 - 12:32 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 14 Apr 06 - 10:21 AM
Elmer Fudd 14 Apr 06 - 09:51 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 14 Apr 06 - 10:16 PM
Elmer Fudd 14 Apr 06 - 11:11 PM
Ron Davies 15 Apr 06 - 02:04 AM
freda underhill 15 Apr 06 - 08:48 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 15 Apr 06 - 09:21 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 15 Apr 06 - 01:56 PM
Ron Davies 15 Apr 06 - 06:34 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 15 Apr 06 - 07:55 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 15 Apr 06 - 09:41 PM
Ebbie 16 Apr 06 - 10:59 AM
billybob 16 Apr 06 - 06:40 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 Apr 06 - 10:02 AM
Ebbie 17 Apr 06 - 10:57 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 Apr 06 - 12:47 PM
Ebbie 17 Apr 06 - 01:56 PM
jimmyt 17 Apr 06 - 08:52 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 Apr 06 - 09:00 PM
Ebbie 17 Apr 06 - 09:06 PM
Ron Davies 17 Apr 06 - 10:15 PM
jimmyt 17 Apr 06 - 10:18 PM
jimmyt 17 Apr 06 - 11:08 PM
freda underhill 18 Apr 06 - 05:48 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Apr 06 - 10:57 AM
Ebbie 18 Apr 06 - 01:46 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Apr 06 - 10:20 PM
Donuel 18 Apr 06 - 10:57 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Apr 06 - 10:29 AM
Ron Davies 19 Apr 06 - 11:16 PM
Elmer Fudd 20 Apr 06 - 12:50 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Apr 06 - 09:29 AM
Ebbie 20 Apr 06 - 10:13 AM
Elmer Fudd 20 Apr 06 - 10:53 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Apr 06 - 11:24 AM
Donuel 20 Apr 06 - 05:03 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Apr 06 - 09:51 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Apr 06 - 11:50 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Apr 06 - 01:24 PM
Ron Davies 22 Apr 06 - 12:28 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 22 Apr 06 - 12:52 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 22 Apr 06 - 06:18 AM
Ron Davies 22 Apr 06 - 10:30 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 22 Apr 06 - 10:45 AM
Ron Davies 22 Apr 06 - 11:49 AM
Leadfingers 22 Apr 06 - 12:36 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 22 Apr 06 - 12:45 PM
Elmer Fudd 22 Apr 06 - 01:19 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 22 Apr 06 - 01:28 PM
Ron Davies 22 Apr 06 - 02:46 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 22 Apr 06 - 09:34 PM
Ron Davies 23 Apr 06 - 11:18 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 23 Apr 06 - 11:32 AM
Ron Davies 23 Apr 06 - 08:59 PM
jimmyt 23 Apr 06 - 09:40 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 23 Apr 06 - 10:01 PM
Ron Davies 23 Apr 06 - 10:38 PM
jimmyt 24 Apr 06 - 01:50 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Apr 06 - 03:15 PM
jimmyt 24 Apr 06 - 05:20 PM
jimmyt 24 Apr 06 - 05:21 PM
billybob 25 Apr 06 - 08:45 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Apr 06 - 09:03 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Apr 06 - 10:18 PM
GUEST,Joe_F 25 Apr 06 - 10:56 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Apr 06 - 11:08 PM
Ron Davies 26 Apr 06 - 10:58 PM
Elmer Fudd 26 Apr 06 - 11:32 PM
Elmer Fudd 27 Apr 06 - 12:53 AM
Alba 27 Apr 06 - 06:48 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 27 Apr 06 - 07:08 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 27 Apr 06 - 10:59 PM
Elmer Fudd 28 Apr 06 - 12:14 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Apr 06 - 01:57 PM
Elmer Fudd 28 Apr 06 - 04:54 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Apr 06 - 07:13 PM
Ron Davies 28 Apr 06 - 10:50 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 29 Apr 06 - 12:28 PM
Ron Davies 29 Apr 06 - 02:47 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 29 Apr 06 - 04:50 PM
Ron Davies 29 Apr 06 - 08:52 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 Apr 06 - 11:54 AM
Ron Davies 30 Apr 06 - 11:06 PM
jimmyt 30 Apr 06 - 11:30 PM
jimmyt 30 Apr 06 - 11:41 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 May 06 - 07:48 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 May 06 - 11:32 AM
Col K 01 May 06 - 05:44 PM
jimmyt 01 May 06 - 07:39 PM
Elmer Fudd 01 May 06 - 09:40 PM
Ron Davies 01 May 06 - 11:15 PM
Ron Davies 01 May 06 - 11:46 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 02 May 06 - 09:17 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 03 May 06 - 08:06 AM
freda underhill 03 May 06 - 08:07 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 May 06 - 12:07 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 May 06 - 02:51 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 May 06 - 02:59 PM
Elmer Fudd 04 May 06 - 06:58 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 May 06 - 08:50 PM
Elmer Fudd 04 May 06 - 09:14 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 05 May 06 - 05:37 PM
Ron Davies 05 May 06 - 11:51 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 May 06 - 07:09 AM
Ron Davies 06 May 06 - 08:02 AM
Ron Davies 06 May 06 - 08:06 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 May 06 - 10:12 AM
freda underhill 06 May 06 - 10:44 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 May 06 - 11:44 AM
Ron Davies 06 May 06 - 01:57 PM
Ebbie 06 May 06 - 01:58 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 May 06 - 08:22 PM
Ron Davies 07 May 06 - 01:06 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 May 06 - 09:40 AM
billybob 08 May 06 - 10:07 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 May 06 - 10:52 AM
Ebbie 08 May 06 - 11:47 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 May 06 - 12:58 PM
Ebbie 08 May 06 - 02:13 PM
Elmer Fudd 09 May 06 - 03:59 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 09 May 06 - 07:17 AM
Ebbie 09 May 06 - 10:40 AM
Ron Davies 09 May 06 - 11:40 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 10 May 06 - 08:19 AM
freda underhill 10 May 06 - 10:44 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 10 May 06 - 11:31 AM
freda underhill 10 May 06 - 12:37 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 10 May 06 - 10:51 PM
Ron Davies 10 May 06 - 11:27 PM
KT 11 May 06 - 12:09 AM
Ron Davies 11 May 06 - 12:16 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 May 06 - 09:33 AM
Elmer Fudd 11 May 06 - 11:33 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 May 06 - 11:47 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 May 06 - 09:37 PM
jimmyt 11 May 06 - 11:08 PM
Ron Davies 11 May 06 - 11:28 PM
Elmer Fudd 12 May 06 - 09:40 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 May 06 - 10:02 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 May 06 - 12:37 PM
Ebbie 12 May 06 - 01:28 PM
Elmer Fudd 13 May 06 - 12:14 AM
Elmer Fudd 13 May 06 - 02:50 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 May 06 - 07:51 AM
jimmyt 13 May 06 - 09:10 AM
jimmyt 13 May 06 - 09:11 AM
jimmyt 13 May 06 - 09:15 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 May 06 - 09:38 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 May 06 - 07:53 PM
GUEST,KT 13 May 06 - 11:40 PM
Elmer Fudd 14 May 06 - 03:37 AM
Ron Davies 14 May 06 - 08:43 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 14 May 06 - 10:45 AM
billybob 14 May 06 - 12:46 PM
Ron Davies 14 May 06 - 01:39 PM
billybob 14 May 06 - 01:51 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 14 May 06 - 05:47 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 15 May 06 - 01:01 PM
Ebbie 15 May 06 - 01:44 PM
Ebbie 15 May 06 - 02:37 PM
Elmer Fudd 15 May 06 - 05:18 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 15 May 06 - 06:00 PM
Elmer Fudd 15 May 06 - 07:17 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 15 May 06 - 08:34 PM
Ebbie 15 May 06 - 08:56 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 15 May 06 - 09:28 PM
Ebbie 16 May 06 - 07:38 PM
Elmer Fudd 16 May 06 - 08:26 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 16 May 06 - 10:10 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 16 May 06 - 10:26 PM
Alice 17 May 06 - 12:51 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 May 06 - 01:21 PM
Alice 17 May 06 - 07:35 PM
Ron Davies 17 May 06 - 10:26 PM
Ron Davies 17 May 06 - 10:33 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 May 06 - 10:49 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 May 06 - 07:49 PM
Elmer Fudd 18 May 06 - 11:18 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 May 06 - 11:23 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 May 06 - 08:08 PM
Ron Davies 20 May 06 - 12:17 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 May 06 - 08:46 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 May 06 - 03:43 PM
Metchosin 21 May 06 - 04:49 PM
Ebbie 21 May 06 - 06:08 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 May 06 - 07:38 PM
jimmyt 21 May 06 - 09:41 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 May 06 - 10:27 PM
Ebbie 22 May 06 - 10:33 AM
jimmyt 22 May 06 - 08:26 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 22 May 06 - 10:29 PM
Ron Davies 23 May 06 - 11:05 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 23 May 06 - 12:59 PM
Metchosin 23 May 06 - 02:38 PM
Ebbie 23 May 06 - 04:42 PM
Donuel 23 May 06 - 06:04 PM
jimmyt 23 May 06 - 10:26 PM
Ron Davies 24 May 06 - 12:19 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 May 06 - 07:47 PM
GUEST,Jerry Rasmussen 26 May 06 - 10:23 AM
GUEST,Jerry Rasmussen 26 May 06 - 10:25 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 May 06 - 10:28 AM
Ron Davies 27 May 06 - 09:04 AM
Donuel 27 May 06 - 09:14 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 27 May 06 - 11:25 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 27 May 06 - 07:17 PM
Ron Davies 27 May 06 - 10:14 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 May 06 - 11:25 AM
Ebbie 28 May 06 - 11:26 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 May 06 - 12:37 PM
Donuel 29 May 06 - 08:48 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 29 May 06 - 08:56 AM
Ron Davies 29 May 06 - 10:30 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 May 06 - 12:53 AM
billybob 30 May 06 - 09:25 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 May 06 - 10:46 AM
Rapparee 30 May 06 - 06:27 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 May 06 - 06:54 PM
Rapparee 30 May 06 - 10:03 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 May 06 - 10:15 PM
Rapparee 30 May 06 - 10:23 PM
Big Al Whittle 31 May 06 - 07:42 AM
Rapparee 31 May 06 - 09:08 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 31 May 06 - 09:33 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 31 May 06 - 08:35 PM
jimmyt 31 May 06 - 09:59 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 31 May 06 - 10:20 PM
Rapparee 31 May 06 - 10:29 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Jun 06 - 08:19 PM
Rapparee 01 Jun 06 - 08:28 PM
Ron Davies 03 Jun 06 - 02:57 PM
Rapparee 03 Jun 06 - 06:43 PM
freda underhill 03 Jun 06 - 08:28 PM
Ron Davies 04 Jun 06 - 10:27 AM
Rapparee 04 Jun 06 - 10:55 AM
Ron Davies 04 Jun 06 - 10:48 PM
Rapparee 04 Jun 06 - 11:01 PM
GUEST 05 Jun 06 - 04:55 PM
Elmer Fudd 05 Jun 06 - 06:41 PM
Alice 05 Jun 06 - 07:53 PM
Ron Davies 05 Jun 06 - 10:47 PM
Ron Davies 05 Jun 06 - 10:52 PM
Alice 06 Jun 06 - 08:39 AM
Rapparee 06 Jun 06 - 09:45 PM
jimmyt 06 Jun 06 - 10:26 PM
jimmyt 06 Jun 06 - 10:26 PM
jimmyt 06 Jun 06 - 10:35 PM
Ron Davies 07 Jun 06 - 08:01 AM
Rapparee 07 Jun 06 - 08:45 AM
Ron Davies 08 Jun 06 - 12:36 AM
jimmyt 08 Jun 06 - 05:29 PM
Ron Davies 10 Jun 06 - 12:21 PM
Rapparee 10 Jun 06 - 12:42 PM
Ron Davies 10 Jun 06 - 11:03 PM
Rapparee 10 Jun 06 - 11:07 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 Jun 06 - 09:18 PM
Ebbie 11 Jun 06 - 10:35 PM
Ebbie 12 Jun 06 - 10:57 PM
Ron Davies 12 Jun 06 - 11:09 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Jun 06 - 11:28 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Jun 06 - 08:19 AM
Ron Davies 13 Jun 06 - 10:22 PM
Rapparee 13 Jun 06 - 10:38 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Jun 06 - 11:30 PM
Rapparee 13 Jun 06 - 11:40 PM
Ron Davies 14 Jun 06 - 06:50 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 14 Jun 06 - 07:42 AM
Rapparee 14 Jun 06 - 08:46 AM
freda underhill 14 Jun 06 - 08:23 PM
Ron Davies 14 Jun 06 - 10:13 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 14 Jun 06 - 10:23 PM
jimmyt 14 Jun 06 - 10:30 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 15 Jun 06 - 11:12 AM
Elmer Fudd 15 Jun 06 - 08:24 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 15 Jun 06 - 09:03 PM
Ron Davies 15 Jun 06 - 11:42 PM
Ernest 16 Jun 06 - 04:38 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 16 Jun 06 - 07:51 AM
freda underhill 16 Jun 06 - 07:59 AM
Rapparee 16 Jun 06 - 09:19 AM
Ernest 16 Jun 06 - 09:42 AM
billybob 16 Jun 06 - 10:32 AM
Ebbie 16 Jun 06 - 01:34 PM
Ebbie 16 Jun 06 - 02:50 PM
Elmer Fudd 16 Jun 06 - 05:35 PM
Rapparee 16 Jun 06 - 09:35 PM
Elmer Fudd 16 Jun 06 - 10:01 PM
Ron Davies 17 Jun 06 - 12:17 AM
Ebbie 17 Jun 06 - 03:00 AM
Ron Davies 17 Jun 06 - 05:52 PM
Rapparee 17 Jun 06 - 06:41 PM
Ron Davies 17 Jun 06 - 07:01 PM
Ebbie 17 Jun 06 - 08:38 PM
Rapparee 17 Jun 06 - 10:50 PM
Ebbie 17 Jun 06 - 10:54 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 Jun 06 - 11:01 PM
Ebbie 18 Jun 06 - 02:35 AM
Ron Davies 18 Jun 06 - 09:32 AM
Ron Davies 18 Jun 06 - 09:48 AM
Rapparee 18 Jun 06 - 10:03 AM
Ron Davies 18 Jun 06 - 10:09 AM
Rapparee 18 Jun 06 - 10:16 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Jun 06 - 02:53 PM
Ron Davies 18 Jun 06 - 03:00 PM
Ron Davies 18 Jun 06 - 03:04 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Jun 06 - 03:10 PM
Ebbie 18 Jun 06 - 04:17 PM
Ebbie 18 Jun 06 - 05:28 PM
Rockhen 18 Jun 06 - 05:35 PM
Rapparee 18 Jun 06 - 07:01 PM
Ebbie 18 Jun 06 - 07:09 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Jun 06 - 07:17 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Jun 06 - 07:18 PM
Ebbie 18 Jun 06 - 07:21 PM
Rapparee 18 Jun 06 - 07:25 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Jun 06 - 07:26 PM
Peace 18 Jun 06 - 08:04 PM
Elmer Fudd 18 Jun 06 - 08:38 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Jun 06 - 08:46 PM
Ron Davies 18 Jun 06 - 09:58 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Jun 06 - 10:02 PM
Rapparee 18 Jun 06 - 10:06 PM
Elmer Fudd 19 Jun 06 - 12:17 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Jun 06 - 06:23 AM
Rapparee 19 Jun 06 - 09:00 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Jun 06 - 09:24 AM
GUEST 19 Jun 06 - 10:52 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Jun 06 - 11:59 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Jun 06 - 01:13 PM
Rapparee 19 Jun 06 - 02:26 PM
Ebbie 19 Jun 06 - 02:39 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Jun 06 - 02:51 PM
Peace 19 Jun 06 - 02:56 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Jun 06 - 03:01 PM
Ebbie 19 Jun 06 - 03:32 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Jun 06 - 03:56 PM
Elmer Fudd 19 Jun 06 - 04:10 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Jun 06 - 04:18 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Jun 06 - 04:21 PM
Ebbie 19 Jun 06 - 09:06 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Jun 06 - 10:22 PM
Ron Davies 19 Jun 06 - 11:17 PM
Ron Davies 19 Jun 06 - 11:44 PM
Elmer Fudd 20 Jun 06 - 01:20 AM
Elmer Fudd 20 Jun 06 - 01:20 AM
Elmer Fudd 20 Jun 06 - 01:21 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Jun 06 - 06:03 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Jun 06 - 06:04 AM
Elmer Fudd 20 Jun 06 - 12:47 PM
Carly 20 Jun 06 - 05:48 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Jun 06 - 06:19 PM
Ron Davies 20 Jun 06 - 07:30 PM
Elmer Fudd 20 Jun 06 - 11:40 PM
Ebbie 21 Jun 06 - 02:44 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Jun 06 - 03:51 PM
jimmyt 21 Jun 06 - 09:40 PM
Rapparee 21 Jun 06 - 09:44 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Jun 06 - 09:49 PM
Ron Davies 21 Jun 06 - 10:12 PM
Elmer Fudd 21 Jun 06 - 10:16 PM
Elmer Fudd 21 Jun 06 - 10:22 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Jun 06 - 10:41 PM
Ebbie 21 Jun 06 - 11:22 PM
Rapparee 22 Jun 06 - 04:03 PM
Elmer Fudd 22 Jun 06 - 04:29 PM
Ron Davies 22 Jun 06 - 10:56 PM
Ron Davies 22 Jun 06 - 11:04 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 23 Jun 06 - 10:24 AM
Ebbie 23 Jun 06 - 11:17 AM
Ron Davies 23 Jun 06 - 09:47 PM
Elmer Fudd 24 Jun 06 - 01:20 AM
Ebbie 24 Jun 06 - 03:51 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Jun 06 - 03:15 PM
Alice 24 Jun 06 - 03:37 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Jun 06 - 04:20 PM
Alice 24 Jun 06 - 04:32 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Jun 06 - 06:52 PM
Alice 24 Jun 06 - 07:32 PM
Alice 24 Jun 06 - 07:50 PM
Alice 24 Jun 06 - 07:52 PM
Alice 24 Jun 06 - 07:58 PM
Rapparee 24 Jun 06 - 08:33 PM
freda underhill 24 Jun 06 - 08:42 PM
Alice 24 Jun 06 - 08:57 PM
Ebbie 24 Jun 06 - 09:08 PM
Rapparee 24 Jun 06 - 09:34 PM
Alice 24 Jun 06 - 09:43 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Jun 06 - 12:31 AM
Alice 25 Jun 06 - 10:22 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Jun 06 - 12:50 PM
GUEST,Cookieless Rapaire 25 Jun 06 - 02:00 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Jun 06 - 02:37 PM
Rapparee 25 Jun 06 - 02:49 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Jun 06 - 09:05 AM
Ebbie 26 Jun 06 - 11:12 AM
Rapparee 26 Jun 06 - 11:46 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Jun 06 - 11:59 AM
Rapparee 26 Jun 06 - 12:24 PM
Ebbie 26 Jun 06 - 12:37 PM
Elmer Fudd 26 Jun 06 - 05:47 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Jun 06 - 05:48 PM
Rapparee 26 Jun 06 - 06:48 PM
Metchosin 26 Jun 06 - 07:39 PM
Alice 26 Jun 06 - 07:46 PM
jimmyt 26 Jun 06 - 08:02 PM
Elmer Fudd 26 Jun 06 - 08:21 PM
Rapparee 26 Jun 06 - 08:27 PM
Ron Davies 26 Jun 06 - 10:24 PM
Ebbie 26 Jun 06 - 11:31 PM
Elmer Fudd 26 Jun 06 - 11:34 PM
billybob 27 Jun 06 - 09:24 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 27 Jun 06 - 10:16 AM
Alice 27 Jun 06 - 10:46 AM
Ebbie 27 Jun 06 - 12:32 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Jun 06 - 07:41 AM
Elmer Fudd 28 Jun 06 - 11:23 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Jun 06 - 12:24 PM
Ron Davies 28 Jun 06 - 11:45 PM
Elmer Fudd 29 Jun 06 - 01:05 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 29 Jun 06 - 07:37 AM
Rapparee 29 Jun 06 - 07:47 AM
GUEST 29 Jun 06 - 12:30 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 29 Jun 06 - 12:47 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 29 Jun 06 - 12:48 PM
Elmer Fudd 29 Jun 06 - 09:22 PM
Ron Davies 29 Jun 06 - 11:26 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 Jun 06 - 08:49 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 Jun 06 - 09:04 AM
Ron Davies 01 Jul 06 - 11:23 AM
Ron Davies 01 Jul 06 - 11:25 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Jul 06 - 12:19 PM
Elmer Fudd 01 Jul 06 - 01:33 PM
Alice 01 Jul 06 - 02:15 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Jul 06 - 04:33 PM
Carly 01 Jul 06 - 05:13 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Jul 06 - 06:42 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 02 Jul 06 - 06:35 PM
Rapparee 02 Jul 06 - 09:25 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 02 Jul 06 - 09:44 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 02 Jul 06 - 09:49 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 03 Jul 06 - 01:24 PM
Rapparee 03 Jul 06 - 01:55 PM
Elmer Fudd 03 Jul 06 - 03:14 PM
Elmer Fudd 03 Jul 06 - 03:14 PM
Elmer Fudd 03 Jul 06 - 03:15 PM
Ebbie 03 Jul 06 - 03:34 PM
Rapparee 04 Jul 06 - 11:44 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Jul 06 - 08:43 PM
billybob 05 Jul 06 - 09:13 AM
Alice 05 Jul 06 - 09:27 AM
*daylia* 05 Jul 06 - 09:41 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 05 Jul 06 - 11:28 AM
Elmer Fudd 05 Jul 06 - 12:17 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 05 Jul 06 - 12:40 PM
Ebbie 05 Jul 06 - 01:12 PM
Alice 06 Jul 06 - 12:23 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 07 Jul 06 - 09:54 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Jul 06 - 08:39 AM
Alice 08 Jul 06 - 10:06 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Jul 06 - 11:38 AM
Ebbie 08 Jul 06 - 11:48 AM
Alice 08 Jul 06 - 01:15 PM
Alice 08 Jul 06 - 07:33 PM
Ron Davies 09 Jul 06 - 01:41 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 09 Jul 06 - 04:45 PM
Ron Davies 09 Jul 06 - 05:24 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 09 Jul 06 - 10:27 PM
jimmyt 10 Jul 06 - 08:34 PM
Alice 10 Jul 06 - 08:57 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 10 Jul 06 - 10:39 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 10 Jul 06 - 10:47 PM
Ebbie 10 Jul 06 - 10:56 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 Jul 06 - 11:55 AM
Ron Davies 11 Jul 06 - 11:26 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 Jul 06 - 11:36 PM
Ron Davies 11 Jul 06 - 11:54 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Jul 06 - 10:33 PM
jimmyt 12 Jul 06 - 10:42 PM
Ron Davies 12 Jul 06 - 10:51 PM
Rapparee 12 Jul 06 - 11:08 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Jul 06 - 09:46 AM
Rapparee 13 Jul 06 - 10:02 AM
Ron Davies 13 Jul 06 - 09:32 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Jul 06 - 09:47 PM
Ron Davies 13 Jul 06 - 10:14 PM
Rapparee 13 Jul 06 - 10:19 PM
Elmer Fudd 13 Jul 06 - 10:52 PM
Ron Davies 13 Jul 06 - 11:35 PM
Ron Davies 13 Jul 06 - 11:57 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 14 Jul 06 - 05:57 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 14 Jul 06 - 10:05 AM
Rapparee 14 Jul 06 - 11:22 AM
Ron Davies 14 Jul 06 - 10:08 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 14 Jul 06 - 10:51 PM
Ron Davies 15 Jul 06 - 09:10 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 15 Jul 06 - 09:33 AM
Ron Davies 15 Jul 06 - 09:41 AM
GUEST 16 Jul 06 - 05:23 AM
billybob 16 Jul 06 - 05:34 AM
David C. Carter 16 Jul 06 - 05:49 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 16 Jul 06 - 07:55 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 16 Jul 06 - 08:12 AM
Severn 16 Jul 06 - 09:36 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 16 Jul 06 - 09:45 AM
Severn 16 Jul 06 - 10:19 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 16 Jul 06 - 08:46 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 Jul 06 - 10:31 AM
billybob 18 Jul 06 - 10:15 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Jul 06 - 11:39 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Jul 06 - 09:05 PM
Ron Davies 18 Jul 06 - 09:53 PM
billybob 19 Jul 06 - 08:14 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Jul 06 - 09:27 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Jul 06 - 10:49 PM
Ron Davies 19 Jul 06 - 11:21 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Jul 06 - 08:54 AM
billybob 20 Jul 06 - 10:49 AM
Ebbie 20 Jul 06 - 10:31 PM
Ron Davies 20 Jul 06 - 10:43 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Jul 06 - 08:43 AM
GUEST,KT 21 Jul 06 - 09:15 AM
Rapparee 21 Jul 06 - 11:22 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Jul 06 - 12:07 PM
Ebbie 21 Jul 06 - 01:19 PM
Ron Davies 21 Jul 06 - 11:01 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 22 Jul 06 - 08:25 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 23 Jul 06 - 07:23 PM
Elmer Fudd 23 Jul 06 - 11:03 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Jul 06 - 09:50 PM
Ron Davies 25 Jul 06 - 12:00 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Jul 06 - 09:19 AM
billybob 25 Jul 06 - 09:41 AM
Ebbie 25 Jul 06 - 11:01 AM
Elmer Fudd 25 Jul 06 - 11:37 PM
Ron Davies 25 Jul 06 - 11:38 PM
Ron Davies 25 Jul 06 - 11:40 PM
David C. Carter 26 Jul 06 - 03:51 AM
Ebbie 26 Jul 06 - 04:00 AM
David C. Carter 26 Jul 06 - 05:10 AM
bbc 26 Jul 06 - 07:56 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Jul 06 - 09:48 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Jul 06 - 10:54 AM
Elmer Fudd 26 Jul 06 - 01:44 PM
Elmer Fudd 26 Jul 06 - 01:45 PM
Elmer Fudd 26 Jul 06 - 01:46 PM
Cllr 26 Jul 06 - 01:52 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Jul 06 - 04:25 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Jul 06 - 05:37 PM
Elmer Fudd 26 Jul 06 - 06:45 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Jul 06 - 10:24 PM
Ebbie 27 Jul 06 - 09:20 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 27 Jul 06 - 10:06 PM
Elmer Fudd 27 Jul 06 - 11:07 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Jul 06 - 08:02 AM
Ron Davies 29 Jul 06 - 12:26 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 29 Jul 06 - 08:01 AM
Ron Davies 29 Jul 06 - 01:12 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 29 Jul 06 - 02:05 PM
Ron Davies 29 Jul 06 - 03:57 PM
Elmer Fudd 29 Jul 06 - 04:30 PM
Ron Davies 29 Jul 06 - 04:42 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 29 Jul 06 - 06:55 PM
Elmer Fudd 30 Jul 06 - 05:42 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 Jul 06 - 07:18 PM
Elmer Fudd 30 Jul 06 - 07:51 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 Jul 06 - 08:17 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 31 Jul 06 - 07:54 PM
Elmer Fudd 01 Aug 06 - 05:34 PM
Ebbie 03 Aug 06 - 02:12 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 03 Aug 06 - 10:56 AM
Ebbie 03 Aug 06 - 12:08 PM
Carly 03 Aug 06 - 05:02 PM
Ebbie 03 Aug 06 - 07:36 PM
Elmer Fudd 03 Aug 06 - 11:58 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Aug 06 - 09:49 AM
Carly 04 Aug 06 - 01:51 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Aug 06 - 02:41 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Aug 06 - 07:12 PM
Ebbie 04 Aug 06 - 10:47 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 05 Aug 06 - 07:48 PM
freda underhill 05 Aug 06 - 10:15 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 Aug 06 - 09:43 AM
Severn 06 Aug 06 - 10:12 AM
Severn 06 Aug 06 - 10:55 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 Aug 06 - 01:28 PM
Severn 06 Aug 06 - 02:07 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 Aug 06 - 02:15 PM
Ebbie 06 Aug 06 - 03:18 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 Aug 06 - 03:27 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 Aug 06 - 03:31 PM
Elmer Fudd 06 Aug 06 - 04:48 PM
Ebbie 06 Aug 06 - 05:07 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 Aug 06 - 07:44 PM
GUEST,stranger 06 Aug 06 - 08:27 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 Aug 06 - 09:13 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 07 Aug 06 - 11:58 AM
Elmer Fudd 07 Aug 06 - 06:57 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Aug 06 - 02:16 PM
Elmer Fudd 08 Aug 06 - 09:44 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 09 Aug 06 - 07:53 PM
Ebbie 09 Aug 06 - 11:27 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 10 Aug 06 - 05:01 PM
billybob 13 Aug 06 - 05:06 PM
Ebbie 13 Aug 06 - 08:13 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Aug 06 - 09:06 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 14 Aug 06 - 01:23 PM
billybob 14 Aug 06 - 06:35 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 14 Aug 06 - 08:32 PM
Ebbie 14 Aug 06 - 08:38 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 14 Aug 06 - 10:09 PM
Ebbie 15 Aug 06 - 11:05 AM
Elmer Fudd 16 Aug 06 - 07:11 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 16 Aug 06 - 10:12 AM
Ebbie 16 Aug 06 - 11:03 AM
billybob 17 Aug 06 - 07:40 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 Aug 06 - 08:27 AM
billybob 17 Aug 06 - 08:51 AM
Ebbie 17 Aug 06 - 12:05 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 Aug 06 - 01:03 PM
Ebbie 17 Aug 06 - 01:15 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 Aug 06 - 02:09 PM
Ebbie 17 Aug 06 - 04:01 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 Aug 06 - 10:00 PM
Carly 17 Aug 06 - 10:08 PM
Elmer Fudd 18 Aug 06 - 10:17 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Aug 06 - 10:43 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Aug 06 - 12:58 PM
Ebbie 18 Aug 06 - 01:14 PM
Elmer Fudd 18 Aug 06 - 02:03 PM
Ron Davies 18 Aug 06 - 10:20 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Aug 06 - 10:11 AM
Ron Davies 19 Aug 06 - 12:55 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Aug 06 - 01:31 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Aug 06 - 09:20 AM
GUEST,Phot in the Gulf 20 Aug 06 - 10:15 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Aug 06 - 12:12 PM
Ron Davies 20 Aug 06 - 12:19 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Aug 06 - 12:49 PM
jimmyt 20 Aug 06 - 07:25 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Aug 06 - 07:31 PM
Ron Davies 20 Aug 06 - 07:57 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Aug 06 - 08:29 PM
Ron Davies 20 Aug 06 - 08:44 PM
Elmer Fudd 20 Aug 06 - 09:08 PM
Elmer Fudd 20 Aug 06 - 09:09 PM
jimmyt 20 Aug 06 - 09:41 PM
Rapparee 20 Aug 06 - 10:03 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Aug 06 - 10:21 PM
Elmer Fudd 20 Aug 06 - 10:44 PM
Pastor Greg 21 Aug 06 - 04:41 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Aug 06 - 07:06 AM
Rapparee 21 Aug 06 - 09:00 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Aug 06 - 09:26 AM
Elmer Fudd 21 Aug 06 - 04:48 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Aug 06 - 05:08 PM
Ebbie 21 Aug 06 - 09:40 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Aug 06 - 09:56 PM
Elmer Fudd 21 Aug 06 - 10:46 PM
Rapparee 22 Aug 06 - 10:52 AM
Elmer Fudd 22 Aug 06 - 12:47 PM
freda underhill 22 Aug 06 - 05:15 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 22 Aug 06 - 06:54 PM
Ron Davies 23 Aug 06 - 06:43 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 23 Aug 06 - 09:35 AM
Ron Davies 23 Aug 06 - 11:04 PM
JennyO 24 Aug 06 - 01:08 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Aug 06 - 09:53 AM
Elmer Fudd 24 Aug 06 - 09:02 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Aug 06 - 09:21 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Aug 06 - 09:33 PM
JennyO 25 Aug 06 - 01:08 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Aug 06 - 10:10 AM
JennyO 25 Aug 06 - 10:25 AM
Elmer Fudd 25 Aug 06 - 06:08 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Aug 06 - 08:47 PM
JennyO 26 Aug 06 - 01:10 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Aug 06 - 10:01 AM
Ron Davies 26 Aug 06 - 10:39 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Aug 06 - 12:20 PM
JennyO 26 Aug 06 - 01:20 PM
JennyO 26 Aug 06 - 01:24 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Aug 06 - 02:33 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Aug 06 - 03:01 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Aug 06 - 03:10 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Aug 06 - 10:10 PM
Ron Davies 27 Aug 06 - 06:27 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 27 Aug 06 - 08:31 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Aug 06 - 11:51 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Aug 06 - 11:24 PM
JennyO 28 Aug 06 - 11:33 PM
Ron Davies 29 Aug 06 - 11:28 PM
billybob 30 Aug 06 - 06:56 AM
Ron Davies 31 Aug 06 - 12:04 AM
billybob 31 Aug 06 - 05:25 AM
billybob 01 Sep 06 - 05:00 AM
Ron Davies 01 Sep 06 - 11:03 AM
David C. Carter 01 Sep 06 - 12:48 PM
JennyO 01 Sep 06 - 02:17 PM
Elmer Fudd 01 Sep 06 - 03:09 PM
JennyO 02 Sep 06 - 05:39 AM
David C. Carter 02 Sep 06 - 06:20 AM
billybob 02 Sep 06 - 03:15 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 03 Sep 06 - 11:03 AM
Elmer Fudd 03 Sep 06 - 11:45 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 03 Sep 06 - 12:39 PM
JennyO 03 Sep 06 - 02:13 PM
Tootler 03 Sep 06 - 06:58 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 03 Sep 06 - 08:30 PM
JennyO 03 Sep 06 - 10:56 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Sep 06 - 11:42 AM
Ebbie 04 Sep 06 - 05:07 PM
Tootler 04 Sep 06 - 05:38 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Sep 06 - 08:17 PM
JennyO 04 Sep 06 - 10:22 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Sep 06 - 10:43 PM
JennyO 04 Sep 06 - 10:57 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 05 Sep 06 - 07:16 AM
JennyO 05 Sep 06 - 07:28 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 05 Sep 06 - 10:02 AM
Elmer Fudd 05 Sep 06 - 03:58 PM
Elmer Fudd 05 Sep 06 - 04:06 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 05 Sep 06 - 04:26 PM
Tootler 05 Sep 06 - 07:03 PM
Elmer Fudd 05 Sep 06 - 08:25 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 Sep 06 - 10:06 AM
Ebbie 06 Sep 06 - 11:38 AM
JennyO 06 Sep 06 - 11:49 AM
Elmer Fudd 06 Sep 06 - 01:09 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 Sep 06 - 01:52 PM
Tootler 06 Sep 06 - 05:37 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 Sep 06 - 05:53 PM
Elmer Fudd 06 Sep 06 - 11:40 PM
Tootler 07 Sep 06 - 07:41 PM
Ron Davies 07 Sep 06 - 10:52 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Sep 06 - 09:40 AM
Ebbie 08 Sep 06 - 12:17 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Sep 06 - 01:03 PM
Ebbie 08 Sep 06 - 03:14 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Sep 06 - 10:09 PM
Donuel 09 Sep 06 - 04:49 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 09 Sep 06 - 05:43 PM
Elmer Fudd 09 Sep 06 - 08:53 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 09 Sep 06 - 09:47 PM
Elmer Fudd 09 Sep 06 - 10:34 PM
Elmer Fudd 09 Sep 06 - 10:36 PM
Little Hawk 09 Sep 06 - 10:37 PM
Elmer Fudd 09 Sep 06 - 10:47 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 09 Sep 06 - 10:53 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 09 Sep 06 - 10:54 PM
Ebbie 10 Sep 06 - 12:36 AM
GUEST 10 Sep 06 - 03:00 PM
Elmer Fudd 10 Sep 06 - 03:08 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 10 Sep 06 - 03:23 PM
Elmer Fudd 10 Sep 06 - 08:07 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 10 Sep 06 - 09:43 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Sep 06 - 01:04 PM
Rapparee 12 Sep 06 - 03:36 PM
Elmer Fudd 12 Sep 06 - 09:03 PM
Ron Davies 12 Sep 06 - 11:02 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Sep 06 - 07:47 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Sep 06 - 10:53 AM
Ebbie 13 Sep 06 - 11:15 AM
JennyO 13 Sep 06 - 02:06 PM
Elmer Fudd 13 Sep 06 - 06:15 PM
Tootler 13 Sep 06 - 06:22 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Sep 06 - 08:35 PM
Ebbie 13 Sep 06 - 09:40 PM
Rapparee 13 Sep 06 - 10:01 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Sep 06 - 10:07 PM
Elmer Fudd 13 Sep 06 - 10:58 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 14 Sep 06 - 05:38 AM
Rapparee 14 Sep 06 - 09:12 AM
Ebbie 14 Sep 06 - 11:26 AM
Elmer Fudd 14 Sep 06 - 07:30 PM
Tootler 14 Sep 06 - 08:28 PM
JennyO 14 Sep 06 - 09:04 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 14 Sep 06 - 10:59 PM
Ron Davies 14 Sep 06 - 11:34 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 15 Sep 06 - 07:53 AM
Rapparee 15 Sep 06 - 11:30 AM
leftydee 15 Sep 06 - 04:27 PM
Carly 15 Sep 06 - 04:53 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 15 Sep 06 - 05:24 PM
Elmer Fudd 15 Sep 06 - 07:35 PM
Carly 16 Sep 06 - 04:00 PM
Rapparee 16 Sep 06 - 04:09 PM
billybob 16 Sep 06 - 05:42 PM
Ebbie 16 Sep 06 - 07:59 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 16 Sep 06 - 08:05 PM
Carly 16 Sep 06 - 08:14 PM
Elmer Fudd 16 Sep 06 - 09:13 PM
billybob 17 Sep 06 - 04:30 PM
Ebbie 17 Sep 06 - 05:35 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 Sep 06 - 06:14 PM
Rapparee 17 Sep 06 - 10:03 PM
Ebbie 17 Sep 06 - 10:41 PM
billybob 18 Sep 06 - 05:03 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Sep 06 - 06:54 AM
Rapparee 18 Sep 06 - 08:24 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Sep 06 - 12:06 PM
billybob 19 Sep 06 - 12:17 PM
Ebbie 19 Sep 06 - 12:49 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Sep 06 - 01:53 PM
Ebbie 19 Sep 06 - 02:03 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Sep 06 - 04:33 PM
Ebbie 20 Sep 06 - 01:16 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Sep 06 - 12:10 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Sep 06 - 12:13 PM
Ebbie 20 Sep 06 - 12:55 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Sep 06 - 02:55 PM
Ron Davies 20 Sep 06 - 08:58 PM
Ron Davies 21 Sep 06 - 11:36 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 22 Sep 06 - 04:55 PM
Ron Davies 23 Sep 06 - 08:11 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 23 Sep 06 - 08:22 PM
Ron Davies 24 Sep 06 - 11:41 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Sep 06 - 11:49 AM
Ron Davies 24 Sep 06 - 12:35 PM
billybob 24 Sep 06 - 03:00 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Sep 06 - 07:32 PM
Ron Davies 24 Sep 06 - 07:42 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Sep 06 - 08:42 PM
Ebbie 24 Sep 06 - 09:09 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Sep 06 - 10:21 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Sep 06 - 08:42 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Sep 06 - 10:51 AM
Ebbie 25 Sep 06 - 11:40 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Sep 06 - 12:31 PM
JennyO 25 Sep 06 - 12:40 PM
Ebbie 25 Sep 06 - 03:28 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Sep 06 - 04:31 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Sep 06 - 07:05 PM
JennyO 25 Sep 06 - 10:52 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Sep 06 - 09:45 AM
billybob 26 Sep 06 - 05:47 PM
GUEST,IBO 27 Sep 06 - 05:17 PM
Tootler 27 Sep 06 - 07:01 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 27 Sep 06 - 08:09 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 27 Sep 06 - 08:21 PM
JennyO 27 Sep 06 - 10:16 PM
Rapparee 27 Sep 06 - 10:53 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 27 Sep 06 - 11:12 PM
JennyO 28 Sep 06 - 12:38 AM
Elmer Fudd 28 Sep 06 - 02:09 AM
Elmer Fudd 28 Sep 06 - 02:10 AM
Leadfingers 28 Sep 06 - 04:48 AM
GUEST,IBO 28 Sep 06 - 06:53 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Sep 06 - 07:50 AM
Rapparee 28 Sep 06 - 09:03 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Sep 06 - 09:42 AM
Ron Davies 28 Sep 06 - 11:46 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 29 Sep 06 - 12:04 AM
Ebbie 29 Sep 06 - 12:53 AM
Elmer Fudd 29 Sep 06 - 01:15 AM
Rapparee 29 Sep 06 - 09:20 AM
Ebbie 29 Sep 06 - 11:01 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 29 Sep 06 - 01:56 PM
Carly 29 Sep 06 - 04:21 PM
Ebbie 29 Sep 06 - 11:09 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 Sep 06 - 07:00 AM
Ron Davies 30 Sep 06 - 11:12 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 Sep 06 - 03:31 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Oct 06 - 05:18 PM
Elmer Fudd 01 Oct 06 - 06:46 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Oct 06 - 08:19 PM
Rapparee 01 Oct 06 - 11:01 PM
JennyO 02 Oct 06 - 01:42 AM
GUEST,partridge 02 Oct 06 - 02:09 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 02 Oct 06 - 10:30 AM
Elmer Fudd 02 Oct 06 - 08:50 PM
Ron Davies 02 Oct 06 - 09:05 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 02 Oct 06 - 09:17 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Oct 06 - 03:37 PM
Rapparee 04 Oct 06 - 07:34 PM
billybob 04 Oct 06 - 07:43 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Oct 06 - 09:47 PM
Donuel 04 Oct 06 - 10:22 PM
Ebbie 04 Oct 06 - 10:37 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Oct 06 - 10:55 PM
Rapparee 04 Oct 06 - 11:20 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 05 Oct 06 - 08:10 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 05 Oct 06 - 09:52 PM
billybob 06 Oct 06 - 09:53 AM
Elmer Fudd 07 Oct 06 - 01:47 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 07 Oct 06 - 12:08 PM
Carly 07 Oct 06 - 03:50 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 07 Oct 06 - 03:58 PM
Elmer Fudd 08 Oct 06 - 12:38 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Oct 06 - 08:50 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Oct 06 - 10:17 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Oct 06 - 06:28 PM
Rapparee 08 Oct 06 - 11:52 PM
Ron Davies 09 Oct 06 - 02:30 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 09 Oct 06 - 02:45 PM
billybob 09 Oct 06 - 02:48 PM
Elmer Fudd 09 Oct 06 - 04:56 PM
Ebbie 10 Oct 06 - 11:40 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 10 Oct 06 - 12:13 PM
Tootler 10 Oct 06 - 07:15 PM
Tootler 10 Oct 06 - 07:27 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 10 Oct 06 - 07:41 PM
Elmer Fudd 10 Oct 06 - 08:44 PM
billybob 11 Oct 06 - 11:45 AM
Tootler 11 Oct 06 - 07:20 PM
GUEST, Ebbie 11 Oct 06 - 07:55 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 Oct 06 - 09:02 PM
Elmer Fudd 12 Oct 06 - 01:20 AM
Rapparee 12 Oct 06 - 09:09 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Oct 06 - 11:15 AM
Elmer Fudd 12 Oct 06 - 04:24 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Oct 06 - 06:21 PM
Tootler 12 Oct 06 - 07:20 PM
Carly 12 Oct 06 - 07:47 PM
Elmer Fudd 12 Oct 06 - 08:32 PM
Ebbie 12 Oct 06 - 09:05 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Oct 06 - 09:23 PM
Rapparee 12 Oct 06 - 09:59 PM
Ebbie 13 Oct 06 - 12:14 AM
Ron Davies 13 Oct 06 - 08:42 PM
Joe Offer 13 Oct 06 - 09:16 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Oct 06 - 09:36 PM
Ebbie 13 Oct 06 - 10:28 PM
Ebbie 15 Oct 06 - 02:23 PM
Rapparee 15 Oct 06 - 03:09 PM
Ebbie 15 Oct 06 - 04:35 PM
billybob 17 Oct 06 - 11:22 AM
Col K 17 Oct 06 - 06:33 PM
Elmer Fudd 17 Oct 06 - 08:50 PM
billybob 18 Oct 06 - 05:43 PM
GUEST, Ebbie 18 Oct 06 - 05:50 PM
Tootler 19 Oct 06 - 10:46 AM
Ron Davies 19 Oct 06 - 11:11 PM
Elmer Fudd 20 Oct 06 - 12:24 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Oct 06 - 09:55 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 22 Oct 06 - 10:33 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 23 Oct 06 - 08:17 PM
wysiwyg 23 Oct 06 - 08:22 PM
billybob 23 Oct 06 - 08:49 PM
jimmyt 23 Oct 06 - 08:55 PM
Carly 23 Oct 06 - 09:00 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 23 Oct 06 - 09:23 PM
Rapparee 23 Oct 06 - 09:36 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 23 Oct 06 - 10:47 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 23 Oct 06 - 11:12 PM
Ebbie 24 Oct 06 - 12:45 AM
jimmyt 24 Oct 06 - 04:52 AM
Sandra in Sydney 24 Oct 06 - 09:10 AM
billybob 24 Oct 06 - 09:40 AM
Ebbie 24 Oct 06 - 01:03 PM
Elmer Fudd 25 Oct 06 - 12:49 PM
Ebbie 25 Oct 06 - 02:18 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Oct 06 - 02:44 PM
Rapparee 25 Oct 06 - 03:10 PM
Ebbie 25 Oct 06 - 03:14 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Oct 06 - 04:34 PM
Ebbie 25 Oct 06 - 10:25 PM
billybob 27 Oct 06 - 10:38 AM
Carly 27 Oct 06 - 11:41 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 27 Oct 06 - 11:57 AM
Carly 27 Oct 06 - 10:59 PM
Sandra in Sydney 28 Oct 06 - 04:13 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Oct 06 - 08:26 AM
Sandra in Sydney 28 Oct 06 - 11:01 AM
Ebbie 29 Oct 06 - 10:56 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 29 Oct 06 - 08:21 PM
GUEST 30 Oct 06 - 06:08 PM
GUEST,billybob 30 Oct 06 - 06:37 PM
billybob 30 Oct 06 - 07:22 PM
Ron Davies 30 Oct 06 - 07:26 PM
Sandra in Sydney 30 Oct 06 - 08:08 PM
Ebbie 30 Oct 06 - 09:41 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 Oct 06 - 10:00 PM
Ebbie 31 Oct 06 - 06:35 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 31 Oct 06 - 08:27 PM
jimmyt 31 Oct 06 - 10:48 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 31 Oct 06 - 10:51 PM
Rapparee 01 Nov 06 - 10:35 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Nov 06 - 10:53 PM
Elmer Fudd 02 Nov 06 - 01:19 AM
Sandra in Sydney 02 Nov 06 - 07:53 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 02 Nov 06 - 09:38 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 03 Nov 06 - 09:33 PM
billybob 05 Nov 06 - 12:41 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 05 Nov 06 - 08:54 PM
Elmer Fudd 06 Nov 06 - 01:44 AM
Ebbie 06 Nov 06 - 01:53 AM
Sandra in Sydney 06 Nov 06 - 05:33 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 Nov 06 - 06:56 AM
Carly 07 Nov 06 - 03:14 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Nov 06 - 10:43 AM
GUEST 08 Nov 06 - 11:56 AM
Elmer Fudd 08 Nov 06 - 06:31 PM
Tootler 08 Nov 06 - 07:30 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Nov 06 - 07:46 PM
Elmer Fudd 08 Nov 06 - 10:09 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 09 Nov 06 - 08:44 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 09 Nov 06 - 09:00 AM
Tootler 09 Nov 06 - 07:06 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 09 Nov 06 - 09:17 PM
Elmer Fudd 12 Nov 06 - 04:06 PM
GUEST,pattyClink 12 Nov 06 - 09:58 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Nov 06 - 10:33 PM
Ebbie 13 Nov 06 - 01:10 AM
Elmer Fudd 13 Nov 06 - 02:04 AM
GUEST,pattyclink 13 Nov 06 - 03:36 PM
Elmer Fudd 13 Nov 06 - 06:16 PM
frogprince 13 Nov 06 - 06:40 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Nov 06 - 07:48 PM
billybob 14 Nov 06 - 11:54 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 14 Nov 06 - 01:03 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 16 Nov 06 - 07:20 PM
Elmer Fudd 16 Nov 06 - 07:56 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 16 Nov 06 - 09:43 PM
Sandra in Sydney 17 Nov 06 - 09:37 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Nov 06 - 08:35 PM
Ron Davies 21 Nov 06 - 06:18 AM
GUEST,pattyClink 21 Nov 06 - 02:37 PM
Ebbie 21 Nov 06 - 03:21 PM
frogprince 21 Nov 06 - 07:44 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Nov 06 - 08:38 PM
Rapparee 21 Nov 06 - 10:18 PM
pattyClink 22 Nov 06 - 09:26 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 22 Nov 06 - 10:33 PM
billybob 23 Nov 06 - 07:24 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 23 Nov 06 - 08:56 AM
Rapparee 23 Nov 06 - 09:28 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 23 Nov 06 - 09:56 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 23 Nov 06 - 10:13 AM
Ebbie 23 Nov 06 - 12:51 PM
Rapparee 24 Nov 06 - 09:28 AM
Tootler 24 Nov 06 - 06:39 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Nov 06 - 09:47 PM
Ebbie 25 Nov 06 - 02:58 AM
GUEST,Patrish 25 Nov 06 - 07:01 AM
Ebbie 25 Nov 06 - 01:35 PM
Rapparee 25 Nov 06 - 09:55 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Nov 06 - 07:22 AM
Ebbie 26 Nov 06 - 10:54 AM
Ron Davies 26 Nov 06 - 11:33 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Nov 06 - 09:40 AM
Ebbie 28 Nov 06 - 02:12 PM
Elmer Fudd 28 Nov 06 - 03:11 PM
Elmer Fudd 28 Nov 06 - 03:14 PM
Elmer Fudd 28 Nov 06 - 03:17 PM
Elmer Fudd 28 Nov 06 - 03:19 PM
Leadfingers 28 Nov 06 - 03:28 PM
Leadfingers 28 Nov 06 - 03:33 PM
Ebbie 28 Nov 06 - 03:34 PM
Severn 28 Nov 06 - 03:39 PM
GUEST 28 Nov 06 - 10:05 PM
Rapparee 28 Nov 06 - 11:47 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 29 Nov 06 - 11:50 AM
billybob 29 Nov 06 - 12:04 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 29 Nov 06 - 01:53 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 Nov 06 - 02:46 PM
GUEST,pattyClink 30 Nov 06 - 03:20 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 Nov 06 - 04:21 PM
Ron Davies 30 Nov 06 - 10:08 PM
billybob 03 Dec 06 - 06:42 PM
Tootler 03 Dec 06 - 07:07 PM
Rapparee 03 Dec 06 - 07:09 PM
billybob 03 Dec 06 - 07:27 PM
Rapparee 04 Dec 06 - 06:42 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Dec 06 - 08:25 PM
Rapparee 04 Dec 06 - 08:49 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Dec 06 - 09:12 PM
Rapparee 04 Dec 06 - 09:18 PM
Elmer Fudd 04 Dec 06 - 09:30 PM
Tootler 05 Dec 06 - 07:57 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 05 Dec 06 - 08:49 PM
billybob 07 Dec 06 - 12:13 PM
Carly 07 Dec 06 - 04:14 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 07 Dec 06 - 04:28 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 07 Dec 06 - 07:37 PM
Rapparee 07 Dec 06 - 09:32 PM
GUEST, Ebbie 08 Dec 06 - 06:32 PM
Elmer Fudd 08 Dec 06 - 10:04 PM
Rapparee 08 Dec 06 - 10:49 PM
Elmer Fudd 09 Dec 06 - 02:49 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 Dec 06 - 10:18 AM
Ebbie 11 Dec 06 - 12:35 PM
Rapparee 11 Dec 06 - 12:59 PM
jimmyt 11 Dec 06 - 08:12 PM
Rapparee 11 Dec 06 - 10:24 PM
Partridge 12 Dec 06 - 03:37 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Dec 06 - 08:01 AM
Rapparee 12 Dec 06 - 08:53 AM
Elmer Fudd 12 Dec 06 - 12:40 PM
Rapparee 12 Dec 06 - 01:45 PM
jimmyt 12 Dec 06 - 09:42 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Dec 06 - 09:51 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Dec 06 - 03:50 PM
Donuel 14 Dec 06 - 12:40 PM
Rapparee 14 Dec 06 - 01:16 PM
Rapparee 14 Dec 06 - 09:05 PM
Rapparee 14 Dec 06 - 09:06 PM
Rapparee 14 Dec 06 - 09:12 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 14 Dec 06 - 10:17 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 15 Dec 06 - 09:35 PM
billybob 16 Dec 06 - 11:12 AM
billybob 19 Dec 06 - 09:13 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Dec 06 - 08:01 PM
billybob 21 Dec 06 - 10:38 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Dec 06 - 11:20 AM
Elmer Fudd 21 Dec 06 - 12:33 PM
Ebbie 21 Dec 06 - 01:38 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Dec 06 - 03:48 PM
Elmer Fudd 21 Dec 06 - 04:36 PM
Ebbie 21 Dec 06 - 06:05 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Dec 06 - 07:19 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 22 Dec 06 - 10:13 AM
billybob 22 Dec 06 - 10:57 AM
jimmyt 22 Dec 06 - 11:18 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 22 Dec 06 - 12:09 PM
Ebbie 22 Dec 06 - 12:12 PM
jimmyt 22 Dec 06 - 01:46 PM
Elmer Fudd 22 Dec 06 - 01:48 PM
Elmer Fudd 22 Dec 06 - 01:58 PM
Ebbie 22 Dec 06 - 02:29 PM
jimmyt 22 Dec 06 - 04:16 PM
Tootler 22 Dec 06 - 05:49 PM
Ebbie 22 Dec 06 - 11:28 PM
Stephen L. Rich 22 Dec 06 - 11:50 PM
Jeanie 23 Dec 06 - 06:53 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 23 Dec 06 - 09:02 AM
Ebbie 23 Dec 06 - 12:10 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Dec 06 - 06:57 AM
David C. Carter 24 Dec 06 - 09:27 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Dec 06 - 11:07 AM
GUEST,pattyClink 26 Dec 06 - 08:51 PM
OtherDave 27 Dec 06 - 07:13 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 27 Dec 06 - 11:04 AM
GUEST,pattyClink 27 Dec 06 - 06:56 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 29 Dec 06 - 02:30 PM
Rapparee 30 Dec 06 - 09:44 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 Dec 06 - 10:10 AM
Ron Davies 30 Dec 06 - 04:08 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 31 Dec 06 - 03:59 PM
Elmer Fudd 31 Dec 06 - 06:09 PM
Alice 31 Dec 06 - 06:16 PM
Elmer Fudd 01 Jan 07 - 03:31 AM
Elmer Fudd 01 Jan 07 - 03:33 AM
Elmer Fudd 01 Jan 07 - 03:34 AM
Elmer Fudd 01 Jan 07 - 03:36 AM
Elmer Fudd 01 Jan 07 - 03:40 AM
Ebbie 01 Jan 07 - 04:00 AM
Elmer Fudd 01 Jan 07 - 04:12 AM
Ebbie 01 Jan 07 - 04:20 AM
freda underhill 01 Jan 07 - 04:27 AM
Severn 01 Jan 07 - 08:36 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Jan 07 - 09:48 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Jan 07 - 03:01 PM
Tootler 01 Jan 07 - 07:28 PM
Carly 02 Jan 07 - 07:26 PM
Ebbie 02 Jan 07 - 08:12 PM
billybob 03 Jan 07 - 12:20 PM
Ebbie 03 Jan 07 - 12:29 PM
Ron Davies 04 Jan 07 - 11:09 AM
Emma B 04 Jan 07 - 11:15 AM
Ron Davies 04 Jan 07 - 11:16 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Jan 07 - 11:44 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Jan 07 - 08:38 PM
Ron Davies 04 Jan 07 - 11:19 PM
KT 05 Jan 07 - 01:58 AM
Rapparee 05 Jan 07 - 09:12 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 05 Jan 07 - 09:46 AM
Carly 05 Jan 07 - 12:00 PM
Rapparee 06 Jan 07 - 09:24 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 Jan 07 - 10:34 AM
Rapparee 06 Jan 07 - 11:56 AM
Ebbie 06 Jan 07 - 01:05 PM
KT 06 Jan 07 - 03:42 PM
Rapparee 06 Jan 07 - 03:55 PM
Ebbie 06 Jan 07 - 04:54 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 Jan 07 - 06:27 PM
Ebbie 06 Jan 07 - 07:11 PM
Rapparee 06 Jan 07 - 09:50 PM
Ebbie 07 Jan 07 - 03:44 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 07 Jan 07 - 08:12 PM
GUEST,pattyClink 07 Jan 07 - 08:24 PM
Rapparee 07 Jan 07 - 08:41 PM
Ebbie 07 Jan 07 - 11:02 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Jan 07 - 03:00 PM
Elmer Fudd 08 Jan 07 - 05:22 PM
Tootler 08 Jan 07 - 06:34 PM
Elmer Fudd 08 Jan 07 - 06:46 PM
Rapparee 08 Jan 07 - 06:51 PM
Ron Davies 08 Jan 07 - 09:01 PM
Elmer Fudd 08 Jan 07 - 10:04 PM
Ebbie 08 Jan 07 - 11:10 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Jan 07 - 11:24 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 09 Jan 07 - 08:50 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Jan 07 - 08:47 PM
Ebbie 12 Jan 07 - 09:14 PM
Rapparee 12 Jan 07 - 09:21 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Jan 07 - 10:22 PM
Maryrrf 12 Jan 07 - 11:14 PM
Ron Davies 12 Jan 07 - 11:29 PM
Maryrrf 13 Jan 07 - 09:51 AM
Ron Davies 13 Jan 07 - 09:55 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Jan 07 - 08:13 PM
Ebbie 14 Jan 07 - 06:31 PM
Maryrrf 14 Jan 07 - 06:43 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 14 Jan 07 - 07:06 PM
Ebbie 14 Jan 07 - 07:44 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Jan 07 - 03:08 PM
billybob 23 Jan 07 - 09:21 AM
Ebbie 23 Jan 07 - 12:38 PM
Ebbie 23 Jan 07 - 12:58 PM
Essex Girl 24 Jan 07 - 09:21 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Jan 07 - 11:40 AM
Ebbie 24 Jan 07 - 12:20 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Jan 07 - 12:53 PM
Elmer Fudd 25 Jan 07 - 01:24 AM
Ebbie 25 Jan 07 - 02:27 AM
billybob 25 Jan 07 - 08:53 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Jan 07 - 07:41 PM
Essex Girl 26 Jan 07 - 08:37 AM
billybob 30 Jan 07 - 08:18 AM
Rapparee 30 Jan 07 - 08:36 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 Jan 07 - 12:29 PM
Ebbie 30 Jan 07 - 12:41 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 Jan 07 - 07:51 PM
Ebbie 30 Jan 07 - 10:18 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 02 Feb 07 - 03:10 PM
Elmer Fudd 03 Feb 07 - 12:20 AM
GUEST,pattyClink 03 Feb 07 - 09:38 PM
Rapparee 03 Feb 07 - 10:02 PM
Ron Davies 04 Feb 07 - 08:20 AM
Ron Davies 04 Feb 07 - 08:22 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Feb 07 - 09:30 AM
GUEST,pattyClink 06 Feb 07 - 03:13 PM
The Villan 06 Feb 07 - 03:15 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 09 Feb 07 - 01:03 PM
Ebbie 09 Feb 07 - 02:30 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Feb 07 - 08:33 PM
jimmyt 13 Feb 07 - 09:10 PM
GUEST,pattyClink 13 Feb 07 - 10:04 PM
Ebbie 13 Feb 07 - 10:19 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 14 Feb 07 - 08:11 PM
Elmer Fudd 14 Feb 07 - 09:30 PM
Ebbie 14 Feb 07 - 11:34 PM
Elmer Fudd 15 Feb 07 - 01:00 AM
Elmer Fudd 15 Feb 07 - 01:00 AM
Elmer Fudd 15 Feb 07 - 01:01 AM
jimmyt 15 Feb 07 - 08:49 PM
jimmyt 15 Feb 07 - 08:52 PM
Ebbie 15 Feb 07 - 09:03 PM
Rapparee 15 Feb 07 - 09:35 PM
Elmer Fudd 16 Feb 07 - 12:41 AM
Ebbie 16 Feb 07 - 03:00 AM
Elmer Fudd 17 Feb 07 - 01:12 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 Feb 07 - 09:03 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Feb 07 - 08:40 PM
jimmyt 19 Feb 07 - 08:52 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Feb 07 - 10:00 PM
jimmyt 20 Feb 07 - 09:52 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Feb 07 - 11:20 PM
Ebbie 21 Feb 07 - 02:39 AM
Partridge 21 Feb 07 - 04:34 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Feb 07 - 04:42 PM
Ron Davies 23 Feb 07 - 11:53 PM
Ron Davies 24 Feb 07 - 12:01 AM
freda underhill 24 Feb 07 - 07:31 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Feb 07 - 12:00 PM
Ebbie 24 Feb 07 - 12:57 PM
Ron Davies 24 Feb 07 - 02:29 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Feb 07 - 03:17 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Feb 07 - 09:01 PM
Ron Davies 25 Feb 07 - 10:26 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 05 Mar 07 - 08:22 PM
GUEST,pattyClink 06 Mar 07 - 07:14 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 07 Mar 07 - 11:22 AM
GUEST,pattyClink 08 Mar 07 - 01:07 PM
GUEST,pattyClink 08 Mar 07 - 11:48 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 10 Mar 07 - 11:04 AM
Ron Davies 10 Mar 07 - 03:16 PM
GUEST,pattyClink 10 Mar 07 - 08:24 PM
Ron Davies 11 Mar 07 - 06:05 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 Mar 07 - 07:59 PM
GUEST,pattyClink 11 Mar 07 - 08:17 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 Mar 07 - 09:04 PM
Ron Davies 11 Mar 07 - 09:08 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Mar 07 - 08:51 PM
billybob 14 Mar 07 - 10:31 AM
Stephen L. Rich 15 Mar 07 - 12:38 AM
Rapparee 15 Mar 07 - 08:18 AM
Jeanie 15 Mar 07 - 02:44 PM
billybob 16 Mar 07 - 10:29 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 16 Mar 07 - 11:41 AM
Ron Davies 17 Mar 07 - 10:11 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 Mar 07 - 02:21 PM
Ron Davies 18 Mar 07 - 01:39 PM
Ebbie 18 Mar 07 - 02:20 PM
Rapparee 18 Mar 07 - 02:23 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Mar 07 - 03:03 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Mar 07 - 03:08 PM
Stephen L. Rich 18 Mar 07 - 09:52 PM
Stephen L. Rich 18 Mar 07 - 10:08 PM
Ron Davies 19 Mar 07 - 09:38 PM
billybob 22 Mar 07 - 12:18 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 22 Mar 07 - 01:43 PM
Stephen L. Rich 22 Mar 07 - 02:51 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Mar 07 - 09:22 PM
Stephen L. Rich 26 Mar 07 - 07:40 PM
GUEST, Ebbie 26 Mar 07 - 07:47 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 03 Apr 07 - 05:16 PM
Ron Davies 04 Apr 07 - 11:01 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Apr 07 - 11:31 PM
Ron Davies 06 Apr 07 - 11:13 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 Apr 07 - 11:54 PM
Ron Davies 07 Apr 07 - 09:43 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 07 Apr 07 - 10:34 AM
Ron Davies 07 Apr 07 - 01:10 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 07 Apr 07 - 02:55 PM
Ron Davies 07 Apr 07 - 03:29 PM
Ebbie 07 Apr 07 - 04:54 PM
Jeanie 07 Apr 07 - 06:06 PM
Jeanie 07 Apr 07 - 06:14 PM
Jeanie 07 Apr 07 - 06:19 PM
frogprince 08 Apr 07 - 11:03 AM
Ebbie 08 Apr 07 - 11:45 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Apr 07 - 12:35 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Apr 07 - 12:38 PM
Severn 08 Apr 07 - 01:06 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Apr 07 - 07:24 PM
Donuel 09 Apr 07 - 05:27 PM
Ron Davies 15 Apr 07 - 03:20 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 15 Apr 07 - 07:25 PM
Ron Davies 15 Apr 07 - 07:58 PM
frogprince 15 Apr 07 - 09:37 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 07 May 07 - 10:25 AM
Ebbie 07 May 07 - 11:51 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 07 May 07 - 12:45 PM
Ron Davies 07 May 07 - 09:22 PM
Alice 07 May 07 - 09:27 PM
billybob 08 May 07 - 12:08 PM
Bill D 08 May 07 - 01:11 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 May 07 - 01:46 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 May 07 - 04:50 PM
Elmer Fudd 08 May 07 - 06:10 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 May 07 - 07:46 PM
Elmer Fudd 08 May 07 - 09:40 PM
Elmer Fudd 08 May 07 - 09:41 PM
Elmer Fudd 08 May 07 - 09:42 PM
Ebbie 08 May 07 - 10:56 PM
Ebbie 08 May 07 - 10:57 PM
Ron Davies 08 May 07 - 11:16 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 May 07 - 11:20 PM
Ron Davies 08 May 07 - 11:42 PM
Elmer Fudd 09 May 07 - 12:30 AM
Ebbie 09 May 07 - 12:34 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 09 May 07 - 02:34 PM
GUEST, Ebbie 09 May 07 - 04:33 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 09 May 07 - 06:11 PM
GUEST, Ebbie 09 May 07 - 06:27 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 09 May 07 - 10:27 PM
Ebbie 09 May 07 - 10:36 PM
GUEST 10 May 07 - 12:37 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 10 May 07 - 03:54 PM
Ebbie 10 May 07 - 04:22 PM
Elmer Fudd 10 May 07 - 11:05 PM
Ebbie 10 May 07 - 11:46 PM
Elmer Fudd 11 May 07 - 08:14 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 May 07 - 08:47 PM
Ebbie 11 May 07 - 10:03 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 May 07 - 10:41 PM
Ron Davies 13 May 07 - 11:17 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 14 May 07 - 10:56 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 May 07 - 10:36 AM
Ron Davies 20 May 07 - 09:46 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 03 Jun 07 - 09:40 AM
Ron Davies 03 Jun 07 - 12:02 PM
Ebbie 03 Jun 07 - 12:21 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 03 Jun 07 - 03:46 PM
Ebbie 03 Jun 07 - 04:57 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 03 Jun 07 - 05:02 PM
Ebbie 03 Jun 07 - 05:31 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 03 Jun 07 - 08:05 PM
billybob 13 Jun 07 - 08:44 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Jun 07 - 11:45 AM
Carly 13 Jun 07 - 02:22 PM
frogprince 13 Jun 07 - 04:01 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Jun 07 - 04:33 PM
Elmer Fudd 14 Jun 07 - 02:17 AM
Ebbie 14 Jun 07 - 02:25 AM
GUEST,JTT 14 Jun 07 - 09:45 AM
Ebbie 14 Jun 07 - 02:49 PM
Carly 14 Jun 07 - 07:54 PM
billybob 15 Jun 07 - 08:21 AM
Ron Davies 17 Jun 07 - 12:27 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Jul 07 - 07:36 PM
Severn 04 Jul 07 - 08:21 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Jul 07 - 08:33 PM
Ebbie 05 Jul 07 - 12:15 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 05 Jul 07 - 10:16 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 05 Jul 07 - 11:50 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 05 Jul 07 - 05:12 PM
Ebbie 05 Jul 07 - 06:36 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 05 Jul 07 - 09:58 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 Jul 07 - 07:14 PM
Ron Davies 07 Jul 07 - 08:52 AM
Ebbie 07 Jul 07 - 12:52 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 07 Jul 07 - 05:00 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Jul 07 - 02:46 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 29 Jul 07 - 06:21 PM
Ron Davies 29 Jul 07 - 06:26 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 29 Jul 07 - 08:20 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 Jul 07 - 04:04 PM
pattyClink 30 Jul 07 - 09:42 PM
Ron Davies 30 Jul 07 - 10:00 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 Jul 07 - 10:25 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 31 Jul 07 - 05:17 PM
Partridge 01 Aug 07 - 05:20 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Aug 07 - 01:53 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Aug 07 - 08:41 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Aug 07 - 08:43 PM
Partridge 03 Aug 07 - 05:45 AM
billybob 03 Aug 07 - 08:02 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 03 Aug 07 - 11:47 AM
maeve 04 Aug 07 - 08:09 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Aug 07 - 09:24 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 05 Aug 07 - 08:05 AM
Col K 05 Aug 07 - 07:52 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 05 Aug 07 - 08:03 PM
Col K 06 Aug 07 - 05:16 PM
billybob 09 Aug 07 - 11:01 AM
GUEST,rehab11 09 Aug 07 - 11:22 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 09 Aug 07 - 11:38 AM
Donuel 10 Aug 07 - 10:20 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 10 Aug 07 - 11:41 AM
Ron Davies 11 Aug 07 - 12:09 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 Aug 07 - 12:30 PM
pattyClink 11 Aug 07 - 10:00 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Aug 07 - 06:19 AM
GUEST,Carly 12 Aug 07 - 06:21 PM
Charley Noble 12 Aug 07 - 07:53 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Aug 07 - 08:01 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Aug 07 - 08:02 PM
Stilly River Sage 13 Aug 07 - 02:11 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Aug 07 - 07:16 AM
billybob 17 Aug 07 - 12:00 PM
Ron Davies 17 Aug 07 - 12:26 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 Aug 07 - 12:52 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 Aug 07 - 04:56 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 Aug 07 - 07:52 PM
billybob 12 Sep 07 - 11:56 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Aug 08 - 09:10 PM
maeve 08 Aug 08 - 09:15 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Aug 08 - 09:19 PM
Amos 08 Aug 08 - 09:29 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Aug 08 - 09:37 PM
KT 08 Aug 08 - 10:58 PM
Alice 08 Aug 08 - 11:17 PM
open mike 09 Aug 08 - 11:05 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 09 Aug 08 - 12:44 PM
Waddon Pete 09 Aug 08 - 01:22 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 09 Aug 08 - 02:07 PM
Waddon Pete 09 Aug 08 - 03:59 PM
Tootler 10 Aug 08 - 11:51 AM
Leadfingers 11 Aug 08 - 09:14 AM
Sandra in Sydney 11 Aug 08 - 11:28 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 Aug 08 - 01:04 PM
Amos 11 Aug 08 - 01:16 PM
Leadfingers 11 Aug 08 - 01:28 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 Aug 08 - 01:28 PM
MartinRyan 11 Aug 08 - 03:43 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 Aug 08 - 03:51 PM
Amos 11 Aug 08 - 08:33 PM
jimmyt 11 Aug 08 - 09:10 PM
Amos 11 Aug 08 - 10:56 PM
KT 12 Aug 08 - 02:49 AM
Jeanie 12 Aug 08 - 04:03 AM
MartinRyan 12 Aug 08 - 04:15 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Aug 08 - 11:11 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Aug 08 - 02:56 PM
jimmyt 13 Aug 08 - 03:36 PM
billybob 14 Aug 08 - 08:46 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 14 Aug 08 - 11:06 AM
Amos 14 Aug 08 - 11:37 AM
Waddon Pete 14 Aug 08 - 12:26 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 14 Aug 08 - 12:51 PM
Amos 14 Aug 08 - 01:29 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 14 Aug 08 - 02:17 PM
GUEST,Paul Williams 14 Aug 08 - 11:09 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 15 Aug 08 - 08:20 AM
GUEST,Singer's Knight 16 Aug 08 - 03:09 PM
Art Thieme 16 Aug 08 - 08:16 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 16 Aug 08 - 10:25 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 Aug 08 - 03:11 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Aug 08 - 12:15 PM
jimmyt 18 Aug 08 - 02:24 PM
Waddon Pete 19 Aug 08 - 09:59 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Aug 08 - 06:03 PM
billybob 20 Aug 08 - 07:59 AM
Waddon Pete 20 Aug 08 - 10:20 AM
SharonA 20 Aug 08 - 10:48 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Aug 08 - 11:08 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Aug 08 - 04:01 PM
SharonA 20 Aug 08 - 04:02 PM
Amos 20 Aug 08 - 04:18 PM
SharonA 21 Aug 08 - 12:44 AM
Jayto 21 Aug 08 - 12:55 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Aug 08 - 09:59 AM
Amos 21 Aug 08 - 11:06 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Aug 08 - 11:17 AM
billybob 21 Aug 08 - 11:42 AM
Amos 21 Aug 08 - 11:46 AM
Waddon Pete 21 Aug 08 - 11:54 AM
billybob 21 Aug 08 - 12:26 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 22 Aug 08 - 05:15 PM
Tootler 22 Aug 08 - 06:41 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 22 Aug 08 - 08:06 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 22 Aug 08 - 10:41 PM
GUEST,frogprince 23 Aug 08 - 08:07 AM
GUEST,frogprince 23 Aug 08 - 08:53 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 23 Aug 08 - 11:25 AM
GUEST,frogprince 23 Aug 08 - 03:24 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 23 Aug 08 - 06:40 PM
Waddon Pete 24 Aug 08 - 07:32 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Aug 08 - 08:59 AM
Amos 24 Aug 08 - 12:26 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Aug 08 - 03:15 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Aug 08 - 12:34 PM
jimmyt 26 Aug 08 - 03:59 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Aug 08 - 04:08 PM
Rapparee 26 Aug 08 - 04:09 PM
Big Al Whittle 26 Aug 08 - 04:34 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Aug 08 - 05:02 PM
Amos 26 Aug 08 - 07:25 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Aug 08 - 07:59 PM
Jayto 26 Aug 08 - 09:58 PM
Ron Davies 26 Aug 08 - 10:04 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Aug 08 - 10:19 PM
Jayto 27 Aug 08 - 10:39 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 27 Aug 08 - 11:17 AM
Nick 27 Aug 08 - 12:40 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 27 Aug 08 - 02:27 PM
Nick 27 Aug 08 - 03:07 PM
billybob 28 Aug 08 - 11:34 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Aug 08 - 02:19 PM
Jeanie 28 Aug 08 - 05:20 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Aug 08 - 09:27 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Aug 08 - 11:22 PM
GUEST,Singer's Knight 29 Aug 08 - 03:46 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 29 Aug 08 - 06:22 PM
Elmer Fudd 29 Aug 08 - 11:45 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 Aug 08 - 08:24 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 31 Aug 08 - 11:41 AM
freda underhill 01 Sep 08 - 04:18 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Sep 08 - 07:41 AM
freda underhill 03 Sep 08 - 03:22 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 03 Sep 08 - 11:50 AM
Amos 03 Sep 08 - 12:23 PM
Waddon Pete 03 Sep 08 - 01:38 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 03 Sep 08 - 02:04 PM
maeve 04 Sep 08 - 08:14 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Sep 08 - 10:35 AM
GUEST 04 Sep 08 - 12:46 PM
Amos 04 Sep 08 - 01:07 PM
maeve 04 Sep 08 - 09:20 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Sep 08 - 09:54 PM
Amos 04 Sep 08 - 10:40 PM
maeve 04 Sep 08 - 10:55 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 05 Sep 08 - 07:10 AM
Ron Davies 05 Sep 08 - 11:50 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 Sep 08 - 04:13 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 07 Sep 08 - 05:27 PM
maeve 07 Sep 08 - 06:10 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 07 Sep 08 - 09:56 PM
Jayto 07 Sep 08 - 10:49 PM
maeve 07 Sep 08 - 11:04 PM
Waddon Pete 08 Sep 08 - 07:44 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Sep 08 - 10:44 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 09 Sep 08 - 09:49 AM
rumanci 09 Sep 08 - 09:57 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 09 Sep 08 - 05:26 PM
frogprince 09 Sep 08 - 09:33 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 09 Sep 08 - 10:03 PM
Waddon Pete 10 Sep 08 - 04:44 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 10 Sep 08 - 07:01 AM
Waddon Pete 10 Sep 08 - 07:45 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 Sep 08 - 11:22 AM
Waddon Pete 13 Sep 08 - 02:25 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Sep 08 - 04:25 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 14 Sep 08 - 03:29 PM
Waddon Pete 14 Sep 08 - 03:38 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 Sep 08 - 05:58 PM
Waddon Pete 18 Sep 08 - 04:23 AM
billybob 18 Sep 08 - 08:34 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Sep 08 - 09:45 AM
billybob 18 Sep 08 - 11:19 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Sep 08 - 04:11 AM
Waddon Pete 19 Sep 08 - 06:48 AM
GUEST,Partridge 19 Sep 08 - 12:46 PM
maeve 19 Sep 08 - 09:24 PM
maeve 21 Sep 08 - 08:52 PM
maeve 24 Sep 08 - 09:35 AM
Jeanie 24 Sep 08 - 05:06 PM
billybob 25 Sep 08 - 08:24 AM
Waddon Pete 26 Sep 08 - 05:08 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 27 Sep 08 - 06:03 PM
The Villan 28 Sep 08 - 04:13 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Sep 08 - 04:31 PM
Waddon Pete 30 Sep 08 - 04:11 PM
Jayto 30 Sep 08 - 04:24 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 Sep 08 - 05:00 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 Sep 08 - 05:41 PM
billybob 01 Oct 08 - 09:11 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Oct 08 - 11:57 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 02 Oct 08 - 10:56 AM
Jayto 02 Oct 08 - 01:28 PM
The Villan 02 Oct 08 - 01:42 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 02 Oct 08 - 03:38 PM
billybob 03 Oct 08 - 10:20 AM
Waddon Pete 03 Oct 08 - 11:35 AM
maeve 03 Oct 08 - 11:47 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 03 Oct 08 - 12:19 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 03 Oct 08 - 03:07 PM
Waddon Pete 04 Oct 08 - 12:50 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Oct 08 - 02:19 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Oct 08 - 11:29 PM
Waddon Pete 05 Oct 08 - 03:08 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 05 Oct 08 - 03:16 PM
Waddon Pete 11 Oct 08 - 01:39 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 Oct 08 - 06:39 PM
Waddon Pete 18 Oct 08 - 05:30 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Oct 08 - 06:57 PM
olddude 18 Oct 08 - 08:52 PM
frogprince 18 Oct 08 - 08:56 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Oct 08 - 09:16 PM
Waddon Pete 19 Oct 08 - 03:06 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Oct 08 - 04:09 PM
Waddon Pete 21 Oct 08 - 03:34 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Oct 08 - 04:52 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Oct 08 - 05:29 PM
Jeanie 22 Oct 08 - 04:43 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 22 Oct 08 - 09:35 AM
GUEST,Singer's Knight 23 Oct 08 - 01:27 PM
Alice 23 Oct 08 - 01:32 PM
Elmer Fudd 24 Oct 08 - 10:46 PM
Elmer Fudd 24 Oct 08 - 10:47 PM
Elmer Fudd 24 Oct 08 - 10:48 PM
Elmer Fudd 24 Oct 08 - 10:48 PM
Elmer Fudd 24 Oct 08 - 10:50 PM
Ron Davies 24 Oct 08 - 11:45 PM
Ron Davies 24 Oct 08 - 11:47 PM
Ron Davies 24 Oct 08 - 11:53 PM
Ron Davies 24 Oct 08 - 11:54 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Oct 08 - 08:58 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Oct 08 - 09:00 AM
Ron Davies 25 Oct 08 - 09:04 AM
Waddon Pete 25 Oct 08 - 02:11 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Oct 08 - 05:00 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Oct 08 - 07:37 PM
olddude 28 Oct 08 - 07:50 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 29 Oct 08 - 09:07 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 29 Oct 08 - 09:40 PM
Waddon Pete 30 Oct 08 - 05:38 AM
billybob 30 Oct 08 - 01:20 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 Oct 08 - 07:03 PM
Waddon Pete 01 Nov 08 - 12:09 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Nov 08 - 04:07 PM
maeve 01 Nov 08 - 06:10 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Nov 08 - 06:59 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 03 Nov 08 - 03:55 PM
Waddon Pete 15 Nov 08 - 04:12 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 15 Nov 08 - 07:14 PM
oldhippie 15 Nov 08 - 08:49 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 15 Nov 08 - 09:09 PM
olddude 15 Nov 08 - 09:38 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 15 Nov 08 - 11:01 PM
Waddon Pete 16 Nov 08 - 01:36 PM
olddude 16 Nov 08 - 01:52 PM
Alice 16 Nov 08 - 02:01 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 16 Nov 08 - 05:04 PM
Alice 16 Nov 08 - 06:48 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 16 Nov 08 - 08:36 PM
Peace 16 Nov 08 - 08:42 PM
Waddon Pete 17 Nov 08 - 05:18 PM
Alice 17 Nov 08 - 06:39 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 Nov 08 - 09:30 PM
maeve 18 Nov 08 - 01:48 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Nov 08 - 02:26 PM
Waddon Pete 19 Nov 08 - 04:53 AM
Waddon Pete 22 Nov 08 - 03:38 PM
Big Al Whittle 22 Nov 08 - 09:33 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 23 Nov 08 - 02:34 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Nov 08 - 08:01 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Nov 08 - 08:07 PM
Waddon Pete 30 Nov 08 - 10:18 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 Nov 08 - 08:00 PM
Waddon Pete 06 Dec 08 - 03:30 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 Dec 08 - 05:15 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 10 Dec 08 - 06:54 PM
olddude 10 Dec 08 - 07:07 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 10 Dec 08 - 10:38 PM
Georgiansilver 11 Dec 08 - 03:01 AM
billybob 11 Dec 08 - 10:17 AM
Tootler 11 Dec 08 - 12:08 PM
billybob 11 Dec 08 - 12:14 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 Dec 08 - 03:14 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Dec 08 - 08:00 PM
billybob 13 Dec 08 - 08:03 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Dec 08 - 09:39 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Dec 08 - 10:12 AM
Waddon Pete 13 Dec 08 - 03:18 PM
Waddon Pete 20 Dec 08 - 03:13 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Dec 08 - 06:36 PM
Tootler 21 Dec 08 - 06:16 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 22 Dec 08 - 07:33 AM
olddude 22 Dec 08 - 11:37 AM
Fortunato 22 Dec 08 - 11:51 AM
David C. Carter 22 Dec 08 - 12:16 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 22 Dec 08 - 03:59 PM
Fortunato 23 Dec 08 - 11:19 AM
The Villan 24 Dec 08 - 01:13 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Dec 08 - 06:57 AM
billybob 24 Dec 08 - 07:56 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Dec 08 - 10:08 AM
The Villan 24 Dec 08 - 02:27 PM
Tootler 24 Dec 08 - 07:39 PM
The Villan 25 Dec 08 - 02:40 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Dec 08 - 06:42 AM
The Villan 25 Dec 08 - 07:24 AM
Tootler 25 Dec 08 - 05:13 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Dec 08 - 06:52 PM
Waddon Pete 26 Dec 08 - 04:25 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Dec 08 - 05:02 PM
Waddon Pete 26 Dec 08 - 05:35 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Dec 08 - 07:47 PM
billybob 27 Dec 08 - 07:27 AM
Waddon Pete 27 Dec 08 - 08:03 AM
maeve 27 Dec 08 - 10:17 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 27 Dec 08 - 11:09 AM
billybob 31 Dec 08 - 10:39 AM
Waddon Pete 31 Dec 08 - 10:54 AM
MickyMan 31 Dec 08 - 11:09 AM
Georgiansilver 31 Dec 08 - 11:18 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 31 Dec 08 - 01:57 PM
CapriUni 31 Dec 08 - 02:39 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 31 Dec 08 - 03:55 PM
Waddon Pete 31 Dec 08 - 05:52 PM
CapriUni 31 Dec 08 - 06:18 PM
maeve 31 Dec 08 - 06:42 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 31 Dec 08 - 09:17 PM
CapriUni 02 Jan 09 - 05:07 PM
Waddon Pete 04 Jan 09 - 07:44 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Jan 09 - 04:21 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 Jan 09 - 10:24 PM
BusyBee Paul 07 Jan 09 - 07:57 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 07 Jan 09 - 08:49 AM
BusyBee Paul 07 Jan 09 - 09:46 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 07 Jan 09 - 11:55 AM
Tootler 07 Jan 09 - 06:48 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 07 Jan 09 - 07:16 PM
Waddon Pete 08 Jan 09 - 09:50 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Jan 09 - 02:07 PM
billybob 10 Jan 09 - 05:38 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 10 Jan 09 - 10:38 AM
billybob 10 Jan 09 - 11:11 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 10 Jan 09 - 03:26 PM
Waddon Pete 10 Jan 09 - 03:52 PM
BusyBee Paul 10 Jan 09 - 04:34 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 10 Jan 09 - 07:54 PM
billybob 13 Jan 09 - 08:45 AM
BusyBee Paul 13 Jan 09 - 09:02 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Jan 09 - 04:03 PM
BusyBee Paul 13 Jan 09 - 06:19 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Jan 09 - 07:28 PM
jimmyt 13 Jan 09 - 09:24 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Jan 09 - 09:47 PM
BusyBee Paul 14 Jan 09 - 10:39 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 14 Jan 09 - 09:18 PM
Ron Davies 14 Jan 09 - 11:23 PM
BusyBee Paul 15 Jan 09 - 03:08 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 15 Jan 09 - 08:38 AM
Rapparee 15 Jan 09 - 09:23 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 15 Jan 09 - 10:18 AM
BusyBee Paul 15 Jan 09 - 06:17 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 15 Jan 09 - 06:46 PM
Ron Davies 15 Jan 09 - 10:46 PM
billybob 17 Jan 09 - 07:36 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 Jan 09 - 09:31 AM
Rapparee 17 Jan 09 - 10:19 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 Jan 09 - 10:48 AM
Ron Davies 17 Jan 09 - 12:52 PM
Waddon Pete 17 Jan 09 - 12:56 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 Jan 09 - 01:17 PM
BusyBee Paul 17 Jan 09 - 04:30 PM
Tootler 17 Jan 09 - 08:57 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 Jan 09 - 11:25 PM
BusyBee Paul 18 Jan 09 - 04:40 AM
Tootler 18 Jan 09 - 09:27 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Jan 09 - 10:14 AM
Ron Davies 18 Jan 09 - 10:24 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Jan 09 - 11:39 AM
BusyBee Paul 18 Jan 09 - 01:15 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Jan 09 - 02:57 PM
Ron Davies 18 Jan 09 - 04:33 PM
Waddon Pete 18 Jan 09 - 05:02 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Jan 09 - 05:06 PM
BusyBee Paul 18 Jan 09 - 05:29 PM
Ron Davies 18 Jan 09 - 07:05 PM
BusyBee Paul 19 Jan 09 - 03:15 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Jan 09 - 05:25 PM
BusyBee Paul 19 Jan 09 - 05:38 PM
Ron Davies 19 Jan 09 - 10:29 PM
Ron Davies 19 Jan 09 - 10:32 PM
BusyBee Paul 20 Jan 09 - 07:21 AM
Rapparee 20 Jan 09 - 08:47 AM
BusyBee Paul 20 Jan 09 - 09:05 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Jan 09 - 09:15 AM
BusyBee Paul 20 Jan 09 - 05:39 PM
Tootler 20 Jan 09 - 08:05 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Jan 09 - 08:10 PM
maeve 21 Jan 09 - 06:04 AM
billybob 21 Jan 09 - 07:44 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Jan 09 - 11:58 AM
jimmyt 21 Jan 09 - 08:19 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Jan 09 - 09:05 PM
BusyBee Paul 22 Jan 09 - 05:16 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 22 Jan 09 - 12:44 PM
BusyBee Paul 23 Jan 09 - 04:50 AM
Georgiansilver 23 Jan 09 - 05:00 AM
BusyBee Paul 23 Jan 09 - 07:49 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 23 Jan 09 - 08:22 AM
Jeanie 23 Jan 09 - 08:35 AM
Tootler 23 Jan 09 - 11:55 AM
BusyBee Paul 23 Jan 09 - 12:12 PM
Jeanie 23 Jan 09 - 12:52 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 23 Jan 09 - 02:07 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 23 Jan 09 - 08:12 PM
BusyBee Paul 24 Jan 09 - 05:10 AM
maeve 24 Jan 09 - 05:22 AM
Ron Davies 24 Jan 09 - 07:46 AM
Ron Davies 24 Jan 09 - 08:08 AM
billybob 24 Jan 09 - 11:15 AM
Tootler 24 Jan 09 - 12:10 PM
Waddon Pete 24 Jan 09 - 03:30 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Jan 09 - 04:09 PM
BusyBee Paul 25 Jan 09 - 09:54 AM
Tootler 25 Jan 09 - 05:19 PM
BusyBee Paul 26 Jan 09 - 05:37 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Jan 09 - 09:34 PM
BusyBee Paul 27 Jan 09 - 04:15 AM
BusyBee Paul 27 Jan 09 - 05:17 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 27 Jan 09 - 06:56 PM
BusyBee Paul 28 Jan 09 - 03:15 AM
Waddon Pete 28 Jan 09 - 08:44 AM
Ron Davies 28 Jan 09 - 09:02 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Jan 09 - 11:27 AM
BusyBee Paul 29 Jan 09 - 11:09 AM
Waddon Pete 29 Jan 09 - 11:31 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 29 Jan 09 - 12:33 PM
billybob 29 Jan 09 - 12:36 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 Jan 09 - 07:27 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 Jan 09 - 07:37 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 Jan 09 - 09:07 AM
BusyBee Paul 30 Jan 09 - 09:35 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 Jan 09 - 03:02 PM
BusyBee Paul 30 Jan 09 - 06:34 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 02 Feb 09 - 11:16 AM
Waddon Pete 02 Feb 09 - 03:36 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 02 Feb 09 - 04:04 PM
Georgiansilver 02 Feb 09 - 04:26 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 02 Feb 09 - 04:36 PM
Tootler 02 Feb 09 - 04:58 PM
BusyBee Paul 02 Feb 09 - 05:00 PM
Georgiansilver 02 Feb 09 - 06:04 PM
billybob 03 Feb 09 - 08:51 AM
BusyBee Paul 04 Feb 09 - 04:59 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Feb 09 - 08:07 PM
Georgiansilver 05 Feb 09 - 02:27 AM
Waddon Pete 05 Feb 09 - 05:15 AM
BusyBee Paul 05 Feb 09 - 08:05 AM
GUEST 05 Feb 09 - 09:23 AM
GUEST,Billybob,lost my cookie 05 Feb 09 - 09:28 AM
BusyBee Paul 05 Feb 09 - 11:39 AM
Waddon Pete 05 Feb 09 - 04:52 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 05 Feb 09 - 07:02 PM
BusyBee Paul 06 Feb 09 - 01:52 PM
billybob 07 Feb 09 - 08:20 AM
BusyBee Paul 07 Feb 09 - 03:00 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 07 Feb 09 - 03:23 PM
VirginiaTam 08 Feb 09 - 02:49 PM
Waddon Pete 08 Feb 09 - 04:43 PM
VirginiaTam 08 Feb 09 - 05:24 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Feb 09 - 10:31 PM
BusyBee Paul 09 Feb 09 - 05:07 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 09 Feb 09 - 07:34 PM
GUEST,billybob 11 Feb 09 - 10:29 AM
BusyBee Paul 11 Feb 09 - 02:08 PM
Waddon Pete 11 Feb 09 - 02:23 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 Feb 09 - 02:44 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 Feb 09 - 04:06 PM
Georgiansilver 11 Feb 09 - 04:18 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 Feb 09 - 05:06 PM
Georgiansilver 11 Feb 09 - 06:45 PM
billybob 12 Feb 09 - 08:01 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Feb 09 - 08:42 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Feb 09 - 06:05 PM
BusyBee Paul 13 Feb 09 - 09:32 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Feb 09 - 10:04 AM
billybob 13 Feb 09 - 10:14 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Feb 09 - 10:26 AM
Waddon Pete 14 Feb 09 - 04:26 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 14 Feb 09 - 05:03 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 14 Feb 09 - 06:30 PM
BusyBee Paul 15 Feb 09 - 12:55 PM
BusyBee Paul 16 Feb 09 - 06:17 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 16 Feb 09 - 08:30 PM
BusyBee Paul 20 Feb 09 - 08:30 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Feb 09 - 06:36 PM
Waddon Pete 23 Feb 09 - 04:14 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 23 Feb 09 - 07:32 AM
Waddon Pete 23 Feb 09 - 07:50 AM
Waddon Pete 28 Feb 09 - 03:52 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Feb 09 - 08:37 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Mar 09 - 07:46 PM
Georgiansilver 02 Mar 09 - 02:48 AM
Waddon Pete 03 Mar 09 - 05:20 AM
billybob 03 Mar 09 - 07:41 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 03 Mar 09 - 11:31 AM
BusyBee Paul 03 Mar 09 - 05:48 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 03 Mar 09 - 07:08 PM
BusyBee Paul 04 Mar 09 - 10:57 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Mar 09 - 07:27 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 Mar 09 - 01:21 PM
BusyBee Paul 06 Mar 09 - 06:28 PM
maeve 06 Mar 09 - 06:40 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 Mar 09 - 08:56 PM
frogprince 06 Mar 09 - 09:13 PM
Waddon Pete 07 Mar 09 - 04:05 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 07 Mar 09 - 10:56 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 14 Mar 09 - 11:33 AM
maeve 14 Mar 09 - 12:03 PM
maeve 14 Mar 09 - 08:19 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 14 Mar 09 - 10:15 PM
BusyBee Paul 15 Mar 09 - 05:12 AM
BusyBee Paul 15 Mar 09 - 10:50 AM
Waddon Pete 15 Mar 09 - 02:45 PM
folkwaller 15 Mar 09 - 03:27 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 15 Mar 09 - 04:15 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 15 Mar 09 - 04:25 PM
Waddon Pete 15 Mar 09 - 05:39 PM
BusyBee Paul 15 Mar 09 - 06:17 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 15 Mar 09 - 08:15 PM
maeve 15 Mar 09 - 08:36 PM
BusyBee Paul 16 Mar 09 - 12:41 PM
Waddon Pete 16 Mar 09 - 04:40 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 16 Mar 09 - 05:25 PM
BusyBee Paul 16 Mar 09 - 06:18 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 16 Mar 09 - 06:48 PM
billybob 17 Mar 09 - 10:35 AM
BusyBee Paul 17 Mar 09 - 02:53 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Mar 09 - 09:34 AM
Stephen L. Rich 18 Mar 09 - 09:42 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Mar 09 - 10:12 AM
Waddon Pete 20 Mar 09 - 07:30 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Mar 09 - 04:04 PM
maeve 20 Mar 09 - 06:09 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Mar 09 - 07:34 PM
Waddon Pete 21 Mar 09 - 05:59 PM
Stephen L. Rich 21 Mar 09 - 06:55 PM
BusyBee Paul 22 Mar 09 - 04:22 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Mar 09 - 12:11 PM
Waddon Pete 24 Mar 09 - 05:33 PM
BusyBee Paul 24 Mar 09 - 05:57 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Mar 09 - 07:24 PM
maeve 24 Mar 09 - 10:55 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Mar 09 - 08:13 AM
Waddon Pete 28 Mar 09 - 04:47 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 29 Mar 09 - 09:57 AM
BusyBee Paul 29 Mar 09 - 03:02 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 29 Mar 09 - 05:53 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 31 Mar 09 - 01:20 PM
BusyBee Paul 31 Mar 09 - 04:47 PM
Waddon Pete 01 Apr 09 - 04:05 AM
Stephen L. Rich 01 Apr 09 - 04:39 AM
billybob 01 Apr 09 - 08:51 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Apr 09 - 03:25 PM
Waddon Pete 02 Apr 09 - 08:00 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 02 Apr 09 - 10:52 AM
BusyBee Paul 02 Apr 09 - 05:37 PM
maeve 02 Apr 09 - 06:36 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 02 Apr 09 - 07:23 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 02 Apr 09 - 09:42 PM
billybob 03 Apr 09 - 10:32 AM
Waddon Pete 03 Apr 09 - 11:45 AM
BusyBee Paul 03 Apr 09 - 05:56 PM
Ron Davies 04 Apr 09 - 09:26 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Apr 09 - 11:35 AM
BusyBee Paul 04 Apr 09 - 12:49 PM
Ron Davies 04 Apr 09 - 01:03 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Apr 09 - 01:08 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 Apr 09 - 07:56 PM
BusyBee Paul 07 Apr 09 - 01:44 PM
Stephen L. Rich 09 Apr 09 - 02:13 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Apr 09 - 07:42 PM
Waddon Pete 14 Apr 09 - 04:26 AM
maeve 14 Apr 09 - 05:34 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 Apr 09 - 07:59 PM
Waddon Pete 18 Apr 09 - 04:06 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Apr 09 - 04:55 PM
frogprince 18 Apr 09 - 10:43 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Apr 09 - 03:25 PM
frogprince 19 Apr 09 - 03:46 PM
BusyBee Paul 19 Apr 09 - 06:34 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Apr 09 - 08:55 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Apr 09 - 07:22 PM
billybob 21 Apr 09 - 10:01 AM
BusyBee Paul 21 Apr 09 - 01:38 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Apr 09 - 08:54 PM
BusyBee Paul 22 Apr 09 - 05:48 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 22 Apr 09 - 06:59 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 23 Apr 09 - 09:08 PM
Waddon Pete 25 Apr 09 - 04:10 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Apr 09 - 04:55 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Apr 09 - 09:22 PM
BusyBee Paul 26 Apr 09 - 02:02 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Apr 09 - 10:07 PM
Tootler 27 Apr 09 - 05:15 PM
BusyBee Paul 27 Apr 09 - 05:33 PM
Waddon Pete 28 Apr 09 - 03:49 AM
maeve 28 Apr 09 - 10:02 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Apr 09 - 10:30 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 29 Apr 09 - 06:58 PM
maeve 30 Apr 09 - 07:01 AM
BusyBee Paul 30 Apr 09 - 01:42 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 Apr 09 - 03:54 PM
cobra 30 Apr 09 - 04:32 PM
billybob 01 May 09 - 08:59 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 May 09 - 10:01 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 02 May 09 - 04:29 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 02 May 09 - 05:41 PM
Waddon Pete 03 May 09 - 02:31 PM
BusyBee Paul 04 May 09 - 05:08 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 May 09 - 06:25 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 May 09 - 12:21 PM
BusyBee Paul 06 May 09 - 05:35 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 07 May 09 - 09:42 PM
Waddon Pete 09 May 09 - 04:15 PM
BusyBee Paul 10 May 09 - 01:35 PM
maeve 10 May 09 - 01:41 PM
Waddon Pete 14 May 09 - 03:57 PM
BusyBee Paul 14 May 09 - 06:29 PM
Ron Davies 17 May 09 - 09:18 AM
BusyBee Paul 17 May 09 - 06:17 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 May 09 - 04:20 PM
frogprince 18 May 09 - 09:21 PM
Ron Davies 18 May 09 - 10:19 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 May 09 - 04:28 PM
Waddon Pete 19 May 09 - 05:17 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 22 May 09 - 11:27 AM
Ron Davies 22 May 09 - 11:16 PM
billybob 23 May 09 - 04:59 AM
Waddon Pete 23 May 09 - 04:47 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 23 May 09 - 05:10 PM
Waddon Pete 23 May 09 - 05:17 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 23 May 09 - 07:32 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 23 May 09 - 09:42 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 May 09 - 10:46 PM
Waddon Pete 25 May 09 - 05:46 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 May 09 - 11:33 AM
BusyBee Paul 25 May 09 - 01:59 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 May 09 - 02:56 PM
billybob 27 May 09 - 09:59 AM
Waddon Pete 27 May 09 - 10:36 AM
billybob 27 May 09 - 11:39 AM
billybob 28 May 09 - 09:36 AM
Waddon Pete 28 May 09 - 03:24 PM
VirginiaTam 30 May 09 - 05:21 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 May 09 - 07:47 PM
BusyBee Paul 31 May 09 - 07:05 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 31 May 09 - 08:24 PM
Waddon Pete 01 Jun 09 - 04:52 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Jun 09 - 08:59 PM
Rapparee 01 Jun 09 - 09:25 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Jun 09 - 10:48 PM
Waddon Pete 02 Jun 09 - 05:01 AM
GUEST 02 Jun 09 - 11:08 AM
billybob 02 Jun 09 - 12:26 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 02 Jun 09 - 12:36 PM
VirginiaTam 02 Jun 09 - 01:03 PM
VirginiaTam 02 Jun 09 - 01:05 PM
billybob 03 Jun 09 - 08:58 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 03 Jun 09 - 03:13 PM
BusyBee Paul 04 Jun 09 - 02:11 PM
Waddon Pete 06 Jun 09 - 02:28 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Jun 09 - 12:35 PM
BusyBee Paul 12 Jun 09 - 05:06 PM
Waddon Pete 13 Jun 09 - 04:00 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Jun 09 - 08:33 PM
BusyBee Paul 21 Jun 09 - 04:27 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Jun 09 - 12:21 PM
Waddon Pete 26 Jun 09 - 02:41 PM
Ron Davies 26 Jun 09 - 10:47 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Jul 09 - 09:06 PM
Ron Davies 01 Jul 09 - 10:22 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Jul 09 - 11:16 PM
Georgiansilver 02 Jul 09 - 02:03 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 02 Jul 09 - 07:38 AM
Waddon Pete 02 Jul 09 - 03:06 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Jul 09 - 12:33 PM
Georgiansilver 04 Jul 09 - 04:06 PM
Susan A-R 04 Jul 09 - 04:25 PM
Waddon Pete 04 Jul 09 - 05:00 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Jul 09 - 05:00 PM
Georgiansilver 04 Jul 09 - 06:55 PM
Rapparee 04 Jul 09 - 09:16 PM
Susan A-R 04 Jul 09 - 10:12 PM
Susan A-R 06 Jul 09 - 12:02 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 07 Jul 09 - 08:02 PM
Waddon Pete 11 Jul 09 - 05:03 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Jul 09 - 10:54 AM
Susan A-R 13 Jul 09 - 11:16 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Jul 09 - 11:54 PM
Waddon Pete 18 Jul 09 - 04:43 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Jul 09 - 09:02 PM
Will Fly 20 Jul 09 - 05:08 AM
Phot 20 Jul 09 - 05:53 AM
Waddon Pete 20 Jul 09 - 06:23 AM
Will Fly 20 Jul 09 - 06:33 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Jul 09 - 06:39 AM
Phot 20 Jul 09 - 09:04 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Jul 09 - 10:47 AM
Waddon Pete 25 Jul 09 - 03:48 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Jul 09 - 04:17 PM
Waddon Pete 25 Jul 09 - 04:39 PM
maeve 25 Jul 09 - 05:16 PM
Rapparee 25 Jul 09 - 05:25 PM
billybob 29 Jul 09 - 08:58 AM
BusyBee Paul 29 Jul 09 - 04:30 PM
Waddon Pete 01 Aug 09 - 03:28 PM
BusyBee Paul 01 Aug 09 - 03:44 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 02 Aug 09 - 09:01 AM
Waddon Pete 02 Aug 09 - 04:48 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 02 Aug 09 - 06:05 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 Aug 09 - 03:37 PM
Waddon Pete 11 Aug 09 - 04:50 PM
BusyBee Paul 11 Aug 09 - 06:45 PM
BusyBee Paul 11 Aug 09 - 06:50 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 Aug 09 - 07:20 PM
GUEST,astro 13 Aug 09 - 10:44 PM
GUEST,astro 13 Aug 09 - 10:46 PM
Waddon Pete 14 Aug 09 - 04:40 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 14 Aug 09 - 07:46 PM
ranger1 16 Aug 09 - 11:53 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Aug 09 - 09:08 PM
gnu 19 Aug 09 - 09:28 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Aug 09 - 09:34 PM
GUEST,astro 20 Aug 09 - 02:47 AM
Waddon Pete 20 Aug 09 - 05:42 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Aug 09 - 07:20 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Aug 09 - 07:30 AM
GUEST,astro 20 Aug 09 - 11:17 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Aug 09 - 11:30 AM
GUEST,astro 24 Aug 09 - 01:03 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Aug 09 - 06:46 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 27 Aug 09 - 12:01 PM
Waddon Pete 12 Sep 09 - 03:31 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Sep 09 - 06:39 PM
Waddon Pete 13 Sep 09 - 03:07 PM
frogprince 13 Sep 09 - 03:26 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Sep 09 - 04:49 PM
frogprince 13 Sep 09 - 07:13 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Sep 09 - 07:41 PM
Waddon Pete 14 Sep 09 - 06:16 AM
SINSULL 14 Sep 09 - 08:06 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 16 Sep 09 - 11:39 AM
Waddon Pete 19 Sep 09 - 04:26 PM
frogprince 19 Sep 09 - 10:12 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Sep 09 - 01:51 PM
Waddon Pete 20 Sep 09 - 01:53 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Sep 09 - 01:54 PM
frogprince 20 Sep 09 - 10:49 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 22 Sep 09 - 08:10 AM
maeve 22 Sep 09 - 08:29 AM
GUEST,BBP dropping by 22 Sep 09 - 08:41 AM
maeve 22 Sep 09 - 10:01 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 22 Sep 09 - 04:47 PM
Susan A-R 22 Sep 09 - 06:50 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 22 Sep 09 - 06:56 PM
GUEST,BBP at work 23 Sep 09 - 09:54 AM
Waddon Pete 23 Sep 09 - 10:05 AM
GUEST,BBP 23 Sep 09 - 11:35 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 23 Sep 09 - 01:10 PM
BusyBee Paul 23 Sep 09 - 03:52 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Sep 09 - 09:16 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Sep 09 - 09:26 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 27 Sep 09 - 08:25 PM
Waddon Pete 29 Sep 09 - 05:30 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 29 Sep 09 - 08:05 PM
BusyBee Paul 30 Sep 09 - 04:15 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 Sep 09 - 05:25 PM
Waddon Pete 01 Oct 09 - 09:11 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Oct 09 - 09:16 PM
BusyBee Paul 02 Oct 09 - 09:42 AM
BusyBee Paul 02 Oct 09 - 06:41 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 02 Oct 09 - 07:36 PM
Waddon Pete 03 Oct 09 - 05:47 AM
billybob 03 Oct 09 - 08:54 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 03 Oct 09 - 10:57 AM
maeve 04 Oct 09 - 10:44 AM
Waddon Pete 04 Oct 09 - 03:51 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Oct 09 - 08:58 PM
maeve 04 Oct 09 - 09:26 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 05 Oct 09 - 08:17 AM
BusyBee Paul 05 Oct 09 - 08:41 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 07 Oct 09 - 03:58 PM
frogprince 07 Oct 09 - 04:39 PM
Waddon Pete 07 Oct 09 - 05:07 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 07 Oct 09 - 06:56 PM
billybob 08 Oct 09 - 05:57 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Oct 09 - 04:49 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Oct 09 - 10:27 PM
GUEST 09 Oct 09 - 10:52 AM
maeve 09 Oct 09 - 11:12 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 09 Oct 09 - 12:53 PM
maeve 09 Oct 09 - 01:09 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 Oct 09 - 11:13 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 Oct 09 - 11:21 AM
BusyBee Paul 11 Oct 09 - 02:46 PM
Waddon Pete 18 Oct 09 - 03:40 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Oct 09 - 04:07 PM
BusyBee Paul 18 Oct 09 - 04:10 PM
Rapparee 18 Oct 09 - 08:44 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 18 Oct 09 - 08:58 PM
Waddon Pete 19 Oct 09 - 04:28 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Oct 09 - 09:10 PM
billybob 20 Oct 09 - 09:04 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Oct 09 - 11:03 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Oct 09 - 06:25 AM
Waddon Pete 21 Oct 09 - 06:36 AM
maeve 21 Oct 09 - 06:45 AM
billybob 21 Oct 09 - 06:48 AM
maeve 21 Oct 09 - 06:57 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Oct 09 - 10:25 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 21 Oct 09 - 10:52 PM
billybob 22 Oct 09 - 07:30 AM
Waddon Pete 24 Oct 09 - 05:12 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Oct 09 - 08:05 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Oct 09 - 08:20 PM
Rapparee 24 Oct 09 - 08:36 PM
oldhippie 24 Oct 09 - 09:03 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Oct 09 - 10:13 PM
VirginiaTam 25 Oct 09 - 01:27 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Oct 09 - 02:42 PM
Waddon Pete 25 Oct 09 - 03:26 PM
VirginiaTam 25 Oct 09 - 06:51 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Oct 09 - 03:04 PM
BusyBee Paul 26 Oct 09 - 04:24 PM
jimmyt 26 Oct 09 - 05:43 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 26 Oct 09 - 07:32 PM
VirginiaTam 27 Oct 09 - 03:34 PM
VirginiaTam 27 Oct 09 - 03:38 PM
VirginiaTam 27 Oct 09 - 05:20 PM
VirginiaTam 27 Oct 09 - 05:29 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 27 Oct 09 - 07:42 PM
billybob 28 Oct 09 - 12:20 PM
VirginiaTam 28 Oct 09 - 03:11 PM
VirginiaTam 28 Oct 09 - 03:17 PM
VirginiaTam 28 Oct 09 - 04:03 PM
VirginiaTam 28 Oct 09 - 04:05 PM
GUEST 28 Oct 09 - 04:21 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Oct 09 - 04:52 PM
VirginiaTam 29 Oct 09 - 11:43 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 29 Oct 09 - 01:14 PM
VirginiaTam 29 Oct 09 - 04:06 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 29 Oct 09 - 06:46 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 31 Oct 09 - 02:37 PM
Waddon Pete 31 Oct 09 - 05:17 PM
MickyMan 31 Oct 09 - 08:07 PM
Alice 31 Oct 09 - 08:49 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 31 Oct 09 - 11:22 PM
billybob 02 Nov 09 - 07:23 AM
billybob 04 Nov 09 - 09:36 AM
VirginiaTam 04 Nov 09 - 02:48 PM
BusyBee Paul 04 Nov 09 - 03:13 PM
Waddon Pete 04 Nov 09 - 03:23 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Nov 09 - 06:30 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 Nov 09 - 08:12 PM
billybob 10 Nov 09 - 07:29 AM
Waddon Pete 14 Nov 09 - 04:30 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 15 Nov 09 - 07:29 PM
maeve 16 Nov 09 - 04:38 PM
billybob 19 Nov 09 - 07:14 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Nov 09 - 12:22 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Nov 09 - 11:45 AM
Waddon Pete 25 Nov 09 - 05:56 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 25 Nov 09 - 10:49 AM
billybob 25 Nov 09 - 02:33 PM
Waddon Pete 28 Nov 09 - 04:32 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Nov 09 - 06:45 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 29 Nov 09 - 11:13 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 Nov 09 - 10:49 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Dec 09 - 07:02 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 02 Dec 09 - 07:00 PM
maeve 02 Dec 09 - 07:40 PM
Janie 02 Dec 09 - 08:10 PM
Waddon Pete 03 Dec 09 - 04:25 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 03 Dec 09 - 08:11 AM
Waddon Pete 03 Dec 09 - 09:21 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 03 Dec 09 - 09:59 AM
GUEST,Nathan Moore 03 Dec 09 - 09:51 PM
olddude 03 Dec 09 - 09:56 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 03 Dec 09 - 10:04 PM
olddude 03 Dec 09 - 10:31 PM
Nathan Moore 03 Dec 09 - 11:49 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Dec 09 - 12:11 AM
Waddon Pete 04 Dec 09 - 06:17 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Dec 09 - 06:39 PM
maeve 04 Dec 09 - 07:25 PM
Nathan Moore 04 Dec 09 - 10:39 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Dec 09 - 11:04 PM
Janie 04 Dec 09 - 11:09 PM
Nathan Moore 05 Dec 09 - 12:50 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 05 Dec 09 - 08:16 AM
Waddon Pete 05 Dec 09 - 01:44 PM
Ron Davies 05 Dec 09 - 02:23 PM
Waddon Pete 05 Dec 09 - 02:49 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 05 Dec 09 - 03:14 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 06 Dec 09 - 10:39 PM
Waddon Pete 07 Dec 09 - 05:13 AM
GUEST 09 Dec 09 - 09:49 PM
Nathan Moore 10 Dec 09 - 01:21 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 10 Dec 09 - 02:19 PM
olddude 10 Dec 09 - 02:27 PM
Waddon Pete 10 Dec 09 - 02:37 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 10 Dec 09 - 07:03 PM
olddude 10 Dec 09 - 07:30 PM
frogprince 10 Dec 09 - 07:45 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 10 Dec 09 - 08:48 PM
olddude 11 Dec 09 - 08:47 AM
maeve 11 Dec 09 - 09:42 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 Dec 09 - 10:02 AM
Waddon Pete 11 Dec 09 - 10:27 AM
olddude 11 Dec 09 - 11:42 AM
olddude 11 Dec 09 - 11:44 AM
maeve 11 Dec 09 - 07:23 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 11 Dec 09 - 08:19 PM
McGrath of Harlow 12 Dec 09 - 07:02 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Dec 09 - 07:52 PM
Waddon Pete 13 Dec 09 - 03:14 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Dec 09 - 09:13 PM
olddude 13 Dec 09 - 09:17 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 13 Dec 09 - 10:22 PM
frogprince 16 Dec 09 - 04:04 PM
maeve 16 Dec 09 - 04:29 PM
Stilly River Sage 17 Dec 09 - 12:52 PM
maeve 17 Dec 09 - 12:56 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 Dec 09 - 02:43 PM
Waddon Pete 17 Dec 09 - 02:47 PM
billybob 18 Dec 09 - 11:14 AM
maeve 18 Dec 09 - 12:58 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 19 Dec 09 - 06:05 PM
Waddon Pete 20 Dec 09 - 02:56 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 20 Dec 09 - 06:38 PM
billybob 24 Dec 09 - 06:47 AM
Waddon Pete 24 Dec 09 - 11:42 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 24 Dec 09 - 12:59 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 30 Dec 09 - 11:22 AM
billybob 31 Dec 09 - 09:13 AM
Waddon Pete 31 Dec 09 - 01:52 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 31 Dec 09 - 07:40 PM
VirginiaTam 01 Jan 10 - 06:12 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Jan 10 - 09:36 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 03 Jan 10 - 03:46 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Jan 10 - 07:50 PM
billybob 06 Jan 10 - 05:26 AM
maeve 06 Jan 10 - 04:35 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 08 Jan 10 - 12:36 PM
Waddon Pete 09 Jan 10 - 02:12 PM
maeve 09 Jan 10 - 02:30 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 09 Jan 10 - 04:10 PM
Waddon Pete 09 Jan 10 - 04:34 PM
Ron Davies 11 Jan 10 - 08:01 AM
Ron Davies 11 Jan 10 - 08:05 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Jan 10 - 05:05 PM
Waddon Pete 16 Jan 10 - 04:15 PM
billybob 19 Jan 10 - 09:15 AM
Waddon Pete 23 Jan 10 - 05:09 PM
billybob 27 Jan 10 - 09:51 AM
Waddon Pete 01 Feb 10 - 05:00 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 01 Feb 10 - 10:20 PM
maeve 01 Feb 10 - 10:40 PM
billybob 02 Feb 10 - 09:26 AM
Share Thread
more
Lyrics & Knowledge Search [Advanced]
DT  Forum
Sort (Forum) by:relevance date
DT Lyrics:













Subject: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 09:18 AM

If a house was a living organism, the kitchen table would be the heart. Over the years, I've spent countless hours at our kitchen table, talking with old and new friends. Because I ran a folk concert series for 27 years and put up most of the performers, I've had a chance to get to know many people here on the Cat and just as many who I've never seen in here. Art Thieme, Gordon Bok, Chris Shaw, jimmyt and his wife Jayne, BBC ,Dave Para and Cathy Barton, Sandy & Caroline Paton, and from across the way, Col K, Leadfingers, Sussex Carole, Noreen and Theresa have all graced our kitchen. There's something special about sitting around the kitchen table with a friend, just "shooting the breeze." It's alway relaxed, and the conversation flows wherever it wishes. I think that what Mudcat really needs is a kitchen table. Among friends, conversations don't break down into threads, and they're not about earth-shaking topics.
Mostly, it's about daily stuff that we all talk about.

I'm starting this thread with no idea whether people can relax from all the combativeness I see in here, and just join me in a cup of cofffee or tea, a beer or just a cold bottle of water. The kettle is on and I hear the whistle going off. Why not sit for a minute, tell me what's going on in your mind, or what's happening in your life... how are your wife and kids? anything happen today that you want to talk about? I'll start it off...

Maybe it's a natural process of getting older, but I'm finding that I keep running across people I haven't seen or even spoken to in years. Some, I seek out and some track me down. This has happened twice recently... both on the same day.

Back in the early 60's I was living in New York City and met Luke Faust at the Gaslight Cafe. He was one of the old crowd, along with Dave Van Ronk, Tom Paxton and the rest, even though at the time we were all still in our 20's. For five or six years, Luke and I performed together and had an unusual friendship. On many levels, we were exact opposites, but we respected each other and in our music, we were like siamese twins. When I moved away from New York City, Luke and I drifted away, and I've only seen him once in the last 40 years. But, I was listening to some tapes I made of us in the early 60's and felt like calling him. Through a little creative research, I tracked him down and gave him a call. It's probably been 20 years since we've spoken to each other, and Luke isn't a letter writer. It was like turning on a switch that had been off for all those years. I'm trying to limit myself to one screen (which isn't necessary at a real kitchen table) so I'd better stop rambling. I have a lot more to say about renewing old friendships .. which ones just "click," and which ones only make you wonder how you were ever friends in the first place. But, I'll stop here..

Pull up a seat, let me know your "druthers" and tell me how life is treating you. If you feel like talking about rediscovering old friends in your life, that would be good to talk with you about. But, if there's something else that comes to mind, I'd like to hear about that, too.

Make yourself at home.

Jerry
    Jerry Rasmussen has started a new thread, Son of Kitchen Table, so I'm going to close this thread to attempt to avoid confusion. Also, I'm going to move both threads into the non-music section because I've seen very little music in them. I've received a few personal messages that asked why this thread wasn't in the non-music section. I guess I have to say they were right in asking.
    -Joe Offer-


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 09:28 AM

Isn't that what Kate Wolf's "Trumpet Vine" is about?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 09:30 AM

Yes Ron, and she's such a fine writer.

Don't leave so quickly... :-)

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 09:33 AM

Good on you Jerry. Sounds like you tracked down old friends with great success and familiarity.

Sure beats "Why did you track us down". or Why did you call, what could you have been thinking?", "Yeah dude just send cash, I'm livin in my van down by the river."

Playing "where are they now" can be disheartening sometimes.
Especially when they have died.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 09:39 AM

I actually should be on the insomnia thread--got up far too early today. I theorize it has something to do with the weird combination of stuff I ate last night (again)--yogurt, cocoa, bread, cheese and a few macaroons. Didn't get back from work til 11--but at least that won't happen again--a project I had to do. At least this time I didn't drink orange juice with the yogurt--I've been told that curdles in your stomach--and sure doesn't help sleep.

Thanks again, Jerry for those Charlie Poole CD's. Please let me know if I can do any similar favor for you--now that I'm more accustomed to making CD's. But I still can't figure out how to make CD's from tapes--though I've read the thread on that thoroughly. It's still pretty technical for me--my computer literacy is, shall we say, not the best. And I really need to do it--over 1000 tapes, almost all recorded off the radio--hence irreplaceable.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 09:43 AM

And when Jan gets up, she'll have something to say about my Mudcat addiction. She doesn't realize how wonderful it is to communicate with people all over the world, with different backgrounds and skills--but all with music as the link.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 09:44 AM

Hey, Donuel:

The thing about tracking down old friends is that in the passing years you've both changed (or at least I sure hope so.) Sometimes, you've changed so much that you have nothing in common but memories. Sitting around saying, "remember the time when we..." wears thin after awhile. As Rick sang, "If memories were all I sang, I'd rather drive a truck." I've had those kind of experiences, as we all have. I did an outdoor concert in my home town a few years ago, and three or four old high school friends came. After the concert, they came up to talk to me. One had been my next door neighbor as a kid. But, we had nothing to talk about. I suppose we could have said "What about those Packers?" or something equally manly, but we mostly stood around shifting our weight from foot to foot until they said "Well, I gotta be goin'," and "It was good to see ya." We were like total strangers.

But then, I like to sit and listen, so I think I'll just pour me a mug of coffee and sit here to see who else is coming in.

What can I get you?

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 09:47 AM

Get some sleep, Ron: I'll PM you about making CDs from cassettes and if I can dig out your address, I'll send you the first CD I did with this software. It includes two tracks: Hopalong Peter and Blues In The Bottle that I recorded with my friend Luke Faust, back around 1962.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 09:48 AM

Or how much you can learn from Mudcat--I've learned so much--in so many areas. And it's so great to hear about issues from people who are actually experiencing them--it gives you a window on so many worlds.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Raptor
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 09:50 AM

From my kitchen table I can see the nyjer feeders with swarms of Pine Siskens and American Goldfinches but since my wife died I find the kitchen the most lonly place in the house.

This is a nice thread Jerry. I'm listening to your CD right now.

Thank you

David


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 09:53 AM

Thanks so much (again) Jerry. I'll be glad to PM you my address. And I'd love some instruction on CD's from tapes. (Hope I'm practical enough to do it.) But if you send me another CD, at least let me send you a check for your labor and the postage.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Amos
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 09:55 AM

Good morning, Jerry!

WHen I was young the kitchen table was where we would stay up all night after a movie, drinking cocoa--when I was old enough, red wine--and set the world to rights. We organized a civil rights march around it once, and discussed endless philosophical themes, and sometimes broke out instrrments and made music. It was also, of course, the site of a lot of childhood meals.

Everywhere I have lived since, it was, as you say, a gathering place where the real living went on--not the living room. I built my first wire-wrap board on a kitchen table, too. Wonderful place. Anyone sitting at it is welcome and safe; that's what kitchens are. It's the physical equipment of letting someone into your heart. In our house, too, it's the first place you go to host a visitor.

A


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 09:59 AM

Raptor--you get swarms of goldfinches and siskens? We get some goldfinches during the winter--but when they put on their fancy duds (spring), they leave us. But the people across the street have them year round. We stock feeders year-round.   What are we doing wrong?

It must be spectacular to see those snowy owls and the others you were telling us about.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 10:03 AM

As the "suet master", I've just been called to hack off some more and put it out for our visitors. Hope to get back. This is definitely a wonderfully cozy little thread.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 10:04 AM

Hey, Rap:

My heart goes out to you. That's the hard reality of losing someone.. loving memories associated with a particular place make it painful to go there.

A few days ago, I noticed the woman across the street had hired a couple of college kids to drag everything out of her two car garage (and basement too, from the looks of the pile.) She's a widow and lost her husband at least six or seven years ago, because we've lived here for five years and he had passed away quite a while before we came. I think that it's probably taken her this long to reach the point where she could face looking at some things that have built-in memories. My Father died seven years ago, sitting in his recliner. He'd had a stroke and was waiting with two nurses and my Mother for the ambulance to come. It was a tense situation, and my Father was doing everything that he could to loosen people up, kidding around and cracking jokes. Right in the middle of all this gaiety, my Father pitched forward face first onto the floor and was dead. My Father is one of the few people who literally "died laughing." After the funeral when everyone headed home and my Mother was left alone, she couldn't bear to look at that recliner, because she'd see my Father there, and relive that whole experience.
She got rid of the chair. The memory took longer to soften.

May yours soften, Rap.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Raptor
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 10:16 AM

Ron are you offering Nyger or thistle seed? They love that.

Jerry I have good days and bad days, I'm still young (37) so I'm sometimes confusing lonely with greif and not sure what to do.

Does that make sense?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Raptor
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 10:18 AM

I didn't mean to drag the mood down.

I'll take a Redrose tea.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 10:25 AM

Rap--

We're offering thistle seed. And they seem to really like it--but still leave for greener pastures across the street--(which actually has less green space than we do)-- in the spring.

So sorry to hear you lost your wife. Hope things improve for you. You add a lot to Mudcat.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 10:28 AM

Don't worry about "the mood". Most of us on Mudcat try to be supportive. And I think virtually all of us have lost somebody at some point.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 10:30 AM

Hey, Rap:

Kitchen table conversations go wherever they need to go... down as well as up. I've never gone through what you've gone through, so I can't speak from experience. I wrote a song (long since forgotten) with the line "Somebody told me that time was my friend." And I think that's true. I'm a great believer in honoring feelings. When someone says, "You shouldn't feel that way," my response is "What's "Should" got to do with it?" There is no "should" to feelings. They're like a kid who wants your attention... they won't go away until they get what they need. I think that feelings are that way. When I feel depressed or disillusioned, I can't say that I "wallow" in it, but I respect my feelings enough to let them have their say. For as long as it takes to say what they have on their mind.

The great thing about music is that it can release you from your burdens. My friend Joe in the Messengers is carrying a very, very heavy load these days and often shows up to sing thinking that he won't be able to. But, when I hit that first chord on the guitar and we come in on the first line in strong harmony, the weight starts to slip away. We sit and talk about what he's going through, and I share similar experiences, and that helps. But nothing quite does it like music.

Maybe the next time you stop by, you should bring an instrument..   

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 10:32 AM

We have purple finches nesting in our yard this year... first time my wife has ever seen them. I used to teach bird watching classes and I think my favorite description of them is that they look like a sparrow that had its head dipped in strawberry jam.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 10:35 AM

"If a house was a living organism, the kitchen table would be the heart."


The heart of our home would be our stove...

:-)


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 10:36 AM

Hey, Ron:

I'll throw a blank CD in the machine today. No need to send money. Sharing music is what I do. There's no amount of money that could equal the pleasure I get in sharing..

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 10:38 AM

Yes, music is an incredible tonic for all sorts of things. Dvorak's New World Symphony has just come on the internet radio station I'm listening to--based in North Carolina--and one I only found out about thanks to Mudcat. And now I'm galvanized--can't even think about trying to get more rest for a while.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 10:38 AM

Nice to see you, Clinton. Yeah... we have a fireplace in the room that our kitchen opens up into. When conversation flows between friends in the winter, the fireplace is another gathering point. We had a woodburning stove in there when we bought the place but need steady heat and put in a gas-burning fireplace. The floor in the room is ceramic tile over a concrete slab with no heating vents in the room, so your feet stick to the floor if you don't keep some heat in there...

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: gnu
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 10:40 AM

Yo David. We all cry, grieve and laugh. The kitchen table sees it all. No need to feel sorry for anything.

Well, except for the Redrose tea... yeech! Pity it's available in Canada, I say (ya gotta see the commercials to get that one). I'll make a pot of King Cole Orange Pekoe.

The only place that doesn't feel lonely in my house is here at the keyboard. And that's because of friends like you.

Good thread, Jerry.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 10:49 AM

This sort of thread is what Mudcat is really what the best of Mudcat is all about--a far-flung (world-wide) community, made a cozy conversation by music and companionship.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 10:51 AM

When Colin K came to visit from England, he brought a wonderful large tin of Yorkshire Tea. Maybe when I take my mid-afternoon tea I'll brew up a mug, just for old time's sake..

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 11:11 AM

The CD is in the mail, Ron:

Maybe next time I'm down your way I'll stop by for a mug of coffee at your kitchen table.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 11:17 AM

Jerry--

We'd be honored.

By the way, what kind of a conversationalist was Gordon Bok? He came to a Getaway awhile ago and was pretty taciturn--of course that's the prerogative of a Down Easter--and even though I'm pretty sure he wasn't born in Maine, I think of Maine when I hear him. I'm sure it would have been great just to make music with him. But I'm just curious.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: LilyFestre
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 11:27 AM

Just the topic of sitting at the kitchen table with friends and family as life goes by brings back lots of good memories. For my entire life, the kitchen table has been the center of activity. One of my best memories is of my very first jam. My Mom's boyfriend, a couple that they hung out with, the boyfriend's son and myself were there. The guys played the guitar and spoons and we sang and sang until late in the night. I never wanted it to end. I was having so much fun and enjoying the music so much that I made a recording of it and it is still one of my most cherished tapes. I can still see the old house, the scuffed up floors, the old upright piano, a round table with extra chairs pulled up to accomodate everyone...the laughter....lots and lots of laughter. :)

Great idea. I'll be stopping by again soon.

Michelle


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 11:33 AM

Gordon is an old friend... I booked Bok, Trickett and Muir for their very first ever concert together, and Gordon stayed at our house. What struck me immediately about him is that he spent the whole evening asking me to play one song after another. I was a little overwhelmed, because I hadn't done much performing and was a long way removed from being asked to do my first album for Folk Legacy. For someone of his reputation, I thought it was amazingly generous to want to hear some nobody like me.

Gordon is a very private person, but not at all egotistical. I think that combination of qualities is very commonplace. People tend to think that private people are pretty stuck on themselves, but generally speaking I haven't found that to be the case at all.
Around a kitchen table, Gordon just relaxes and the conversation flows just as it is in this thread (and I sure appreciate the atmosphere in here.) He talks openly about experiences he had as a child that certainly didn't make him look "good," or particularly special. He's actually quite a modest, humble man. And generous with his praise and encouragement.

Being on the road as much as Gordon has been (and many other folk musicians) can make you wary of opening up. It can seem like everyone wants a piece of you. I can't speak from my own experience, because I've never been that well known. Some folk singers deal with it by closing down, and many deal with it with liquor. I always enjoyed Gordon as Gordon, not Gordon Bok, revered folk singer.

I've talked over our kitchen table with other musicians who dominate the conversation talking about themselves... who booked them, who won't, compliments they're received.. When that happens, I tell them to put away their press kit.. Some aren't capable of doing that.

Gordon is a good man. Kendall could tell you far more about him as they are the closest of friends. When Gordon is traveling through te area, he stops by every once in awhile and it's always a pleasure to see him. The kind of guy you go for a walk with at sunset.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: jimmyt
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 11:42 AM

Jerry, what a wonderful thread. As you know from experience, our kitchen table is the heart of our home. We play music there frequently for several reasons: Good acoustics, good light which if you are old like me makes reading lyrics for new songs a pleasure, we also like to snack on chips (crisps for our Brit friends) as well as have a place to set a cup of coffee or a glass of wine down when playing.

In the last 24 hours, our kitchen table was the source of preparation of a new recipe with brussels sprouts, the bottling of about a gallon of my red wine vinegar to give friends, and last evening some friends came over to play dominoes also on the table.

I also always plan my trips on the kitchen table where I can lay out maps, have good lighting and it is just the right place for the job! I love the kitchen table. Everyone's kitchen table. It is where I think you really get to know people. Our family all assemble in the kitchen whenever they visit. I can't think of a better place to meet catters than the kitchen table. Even this virtual one already seems just, somehow..right. Ruth, could I bother you for a cup of coffee, hon?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 11:50 AM

Funny thing is, Jimmy: I included you and Jayne on the list of people who's sat at our kitchen table, even though you've never been here. We have such warm memories of sitting around your kitchen table having dinner, and then later in the evening playing music that it seems like you've already been here. And we both look forward to the two of you coming to visit, whenever that happens. I'm afraid your coffe will be cold by then, though.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: rumanci
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 11:58 AM

I'd love to share your kitchen table one day with you and Ruth
It sounds like a haven full of good spirits
*bg*
rum


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: David C. Carter
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 12:02 PM

Hello Jerry,and all on this thread.
The sun gave up and called it a day about 3.00 something, this afternoon.I Have been thread hopping since lunch,and found this little "Oasis"of Peace and harmony.I Hessitated about making a contribution here,because although I've seen most of your names around the Cat,I don't really know too many of you.But,that's OK,got to push the door sometimes.The Kitchen is a central part of life here in France,and I have been in a good few.We get to go to the country at weekends,take the guitars,sit up all night,build a fire in the garden early in the morning,go for croissants and have breakfast untill it's time for pre-lunch drinks!I'm going back to my kitchen in half an hour or so, to come up with the main meal for tonight.My two sons will be at home with girlfriends,so it's a crowded house tonight.Great thread.May drop by later.
David


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 12:04 PM

Oh, there you are! I was afraid you wouldn't hear my knock so I didn't bother. How cozy this looks!

It's a relaxed kind of morning. I slept late- past 7 o'clock - stood outside in the packed snow while my little Cairn Meggie did her thing... It's 19 degrees out and the air is still and lovely.

Last night I was at a concert- I did the door and took in bundles of money. They brought me a little piano lamp so I didn't have to have the double doors to the hall open in order to differentiate a 10 from a 20, a 20 from a 50. It was cold last night and the wind came blowing in every time the doors opened.

Great concert. Buddy Tabor - they did a feature on him in this month's Sing Out!- was the headliner and he had two opening acts. One was a mother and son with fiddle and guitar. Leif Saya is a young man - 24- who was a child prodigy and is still extraordinary on the violin. He's been to Ireland a few times and loves playing over there.

The main opener was a young couple who do wonderful harmonies together. I'm fortunate enough to have them in my weekly Friday night music group so I've heard them many times but I love it. Kathy has a sweet, tender voice and Cheryl's is extraordinary, vibrant and strong. Last night they did a few Dylan songs, and one by Mary Gauche (sp?) and several others that they find here and there.

A great evening and it makes me smile this morning. I recorded it and later today I'll start the process of turning it into a couple CDs.

Great coffee, Jerry!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 12:16 PM

Ebbie--

Thanks again for doing those CD's of the Getaway. They capture the experience like nothing else could. You can just imagine the scenes all over again.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 12:21 PM

Jerry--sure hope you can make it to a Getaway soon. Your "Living On The River" being sung at a Getaway is one of my best memories. It would be great if you were part of the Getaway crew.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 12:22 PM

Nice to see you, Ebbie: And hello David over there in France. Ruth and I were in France last September for a couple of days. it was very special for us as we spent our honeymoon in Paris and Versailles seven years ago. Our first time over there was a new experience for us, as I didn't speak any French. Still don't. It was a little intimidating because my wife was counting on me to get us around for a week. I ended up doing it fine, with a lot of merci's. This time around, I had a better feel for traveling in countries where I don't speak the language. We visited ten countries when we were there in the Fall, and I couldn't possibly become fluent (or even passable) in so many languages. But, I wasn't intimidated. I learned the universal language. The finger. (No, not Thaaat one.) When in doubt, point and smile. Works fine.
I found France much freindlier this time around. France didn't change. I did.

Glad you stopped by, David... look forward to seeing you more often.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 12:23 PM

Maybe this year, Ron..

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 12:27 PM

I found when I was in France that the French are the same as anybody else--they appreciate it when you try to speak their language--even when their English was better than my French.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 12:28 PM

That would be really something for us to look forward to, Jerry.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 12:32 PM

"France didn't change. I did." Great line, Jerry.

You're welcome, Ron!

I have Juneau friends who travel a good deal (as they say, they don't have children so this is how they prefer to spend their money). Their first trip to France surprised and delighted them. The people they met were friendly and helpful and took the time to explore where they should go next. In staying open and flexible Gerry and Susan have had wonderful experiences which they then share with us.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 12:56 PM

Speaking of fidelity,(high, not in-) I've been thinking how accustomed we've become to 18 track, digital studio recordings. I just put together a CD of old tapes, so that's been on my mind. For awhile, I was feeling kinda sheepish about the whole project because the sound of the tapes isn't nearly up to the standards of contemporary studio recordings. Felt kinda embarassed about it. And then I began thinking, "This is pretty stupid!" I came to love folk music through old monaural records recorded on primitive equipment which were reissued on pretty low-fi record albums. I didn't crinkle my nose when I heard Charlie Poole sounding like he was singing up through a man hole cover. Or The Carter Family records sounding like they'd been kept in a kitty litter box.

So, I've decided that rather than call the songs I burned to CD "home recordings" which sounds highly amateurish, I'll refer to them as "field recordings." After all, there's a field not far from here. Field recordings sounds all scholarly and important. Home recordings sounds like you used crummy equipment because you didn't have the money to go in a studio. True enough, of course.

For us folk-type people, the song's the thing. I love the crisp sound of a contemporary studio recording, but I'm not about to diminish the old tapes and earlier recordings as being somehow less valueable. They are what they are.

Besides, most field recordings weren't even recorded in a field.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: David C. Carter
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 01:02 PM

The first time I cooked a meal for some of my French friends, it was like taking coals to Newcastle.An Englishman cooking for the French!
This was some 30 yrs ago. And they still talk to me,and come to eat!
They also like my wife's cooking,she's from Croatia by the way.We were out there during the war.Her father owns a restaurant in the town.It used to get full up with American journalists and the like.We used to sit for hours with them,talking music and stuff.Strange times,but plenty of good moments.Got to get back in the kitchen!
Cheers

David


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: ranger1
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 01:16 PM

Hey Jerry! Got a cozy spot for a little ranger? How 'bout some herbal tea? Anything as long as it's not chamomile.

The kitchen table is very dear to me. It's where we'd hang out when I was little. My maternal grandma taught me to read, print and tell time at that table. At my paternal grampa's, we'd sit around the table and he's tell me tall tales or sing to me. I remember my cousins "bringing" him new songs by singing them to him. Sometimes my great-uncle would be there and he'd play his fiddle while Grampa Moses sang. That was the same table where Margaret MacArthur did a field recording of him, that I now have copies of on CD. Good memories.

Hiya Ebbie! I second the thanks for the CDs of the Getaway. It's kind of like being back when I listen to them.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: GUEST,KT
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 02:01 PM

Hi everyone!

Is it okay to just pop in for just a minute? Okay, a quick sip of tea.   It's wonderful and SO good to visit with friends.

Our kitchen table is still the gathering place...It was when the kids were little, still is when we have company and we prefer to play our music there, too. And now, what a great thing to add thoughts of the likes of all of you to my table. Okay, Jerry's table, but it's at my house tomorrow!

KT


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 02:14 PM

Oh yeah, KT... sitting at someone else's table is a treat, too. I've done that many, many times.

I had to run out for some stuff for supper, and I was glad to see that folks just came in and made themselves comfortable.

As Tom Bodet says, "We'll leave the light on for you" when we go out to sing with the Messengers tonight.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: lady penelope
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 02:18 PM

Mmm, kitchen tables. ~There's something very unstressful about them. Even though great dramas can happen about them, it seems to be the place that allows them to happen and it seems to take the sharp corners off in the process.

In my mind the kitchen table epitimises my Mother. She was always there. Whether it was cooking, sewing or reading a book (her favourite occupation) it happened at the kitchen table. My mother taught me to sew and to cook and so many other things in the process, all around that table.

When, as teenagers, my brothers and I would drag our respective 'gangs' home, it would be the kitchen that got taken over for the quaffing of large quantities of tea (with the occasional heretic drinking coffee) and people still mention that when I meet them years later.

My parents moved to a bungalow a while back and the kitchen isn't big enough to get a table in (it's what's grandly called a 'galley kitchen' here in england - my Mum want's to know when does she get the slaves.....?) and for a while it just didn't seem right, there was no table in a quiet place to walk in and see my mother reading at it .

It's worked itself out now, my father (a carpenter by trade - and calling I think) has made the garage into his workshop and the dining room into his music room (still plays his trumpet - 72 this week!) so my mother has inherited the living room. So of course she has put a kitchen style gate leg table in it and all is now right with the world... :o)

Jerry's quite right, there's no 'should' when it comes to feelings Raptor. Just 'cos you're 'only' ( :o) ) 37 doesn't mean that the world looks any better at the moment than it would if you were 70. Give yourself time to let the kitchen table have other memories for you. And remember, you're no weirder than the rest of us........ :o)

Now I'm getting urges to go bake something.......... which is nice, but fattening........ :o)

TTFN Lady P.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: gnu
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 02:37 PM

Getaway CD's? Ah... please? Who is closest to me that I can send some $'s to to get them?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 03:27 PM

Gnu--

You'd want to contact Ebbie--who did them--and find out if there are still possibilities of obtaining them. She took a survey soon after the Getaway to find out specific demand--I think there was a thread on it--you might have missed the thread. But she should be able to tell you what the options are at this point. I hope you can still get some.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Cluin
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 03:53 PM

The kitchen table's piled with stuff that never got put away. The kids eat in the living room in front of the TV.

It's like the garage... you build it to park the car in, but after a while there's no room in there for the car.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: jimmyt
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 05:31 PM

Jerry, wow! you have a great bunch hanging around the table. Hi KT you sweet thing and if it isn't Ebbie, the Real Northern Lights herself! Ron, how about we start getting some thoughts together for a do-wop song next getaway? Jerry might be coaxed in to singing with us, and i know AllanC wants to join in. We should come up with some possibilities and get a rehearsal tape to some folks in advance, huh?
Cluin and Raptor and Rumanci and Gnu and Ranger and Clinton hisself!LAdy P and Michelle and Donuel, and David from France and Amos, the wise old wizard of San Diego, well, what a fun bunch you have assembled.

Listen, Someone run to FKC and get a couple buckets of chicken and I will start these 37 packets of Ramen noodles in some boiling water if y'all want anything else, get up and get it yourself. Ruth ain't here to wait on us hand and foot! We can play a bit while we snack. how bout some blues for a starter, Amos, somewhere 'round the key of E


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: David C. Carter
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 05:39 PM

I'll bring the wine.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 05:40 PM

I'm off to sing with the Messengers tonight... singing three more times tomorrow. I'm really pleased to see so many old and brand new friends stopping by. I'm just going to keep the pot on for a few days and see if people find this a place to stop in.

Doo I doo Wop? Mop bop a lu bop, a mop bam boom!

Awright, jimmy... I'll let you sing bass... am I generous, or what?..

I wrote a new gospel song with a classic rhythm and blues chord progression and melody... I need folks with a real feel for the music to do it... sounds like something the Penguins might have sung Sunday morning at a Baptist church..

Catch yez all later...

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 06:39 PM

Hey, gnu, PM me! They are far from professional and, of course, not complete because I could not be in all places at once (You might take that up with KT- I had great faith that she would get the cloning done in time) but they are fun and evocative of the whole weekend.

Eb


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: SINSULL
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 08:24 PM

Kendall's TV Series was based around the kitchen table - "Stories Told In The Kitchen". Two guys sitting at the table drinking hot tea and nibbling on toast. Wonderful warm setting for some hilarious tall tales.

The kitchen was always the center of life in my house. Drove Mom nuts. She'd be trying to cook Thanksgiving dinner while steering around 20 people in a room that was crowded with six. Funny, but in my childhood, the homes we kids always looked forward to visiting were the ones where we met in the kitchen. We dreaded the places where we were expected to sit up straight in the living room.

Nice thread, Jerry. It brought back some happy memories.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Cluin
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 08:35 PM

Somebody's got a 1001 piece puzzle on the go, one of those quaint old harbour things. I'll pitch in a few minutes working on "the dock".

Anyone caught hiding a piece for the end gets to do the dishes tonight.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 10:10 PM

Back in 1981, in April, my mother died. We drove out from Ohio to Springfield, Illinois, about 12 hours at the time, and overnighted with my brother. He had some Jamison which he shared with my wife and me, and the next day we drove on two more hours to my home town and the funeral.

Well, it turned out that they had to keep Mom on ice for a week -- the Catholic Diocese wouldn't let her be buried during "Holy Week" and we had to have the funeral on Easter Monday.

So we all stayed at the old homestead and got reacquainted with each other around the old kitchen table -- the one where we'd eaten so many meals, had so many fights, did so much homework, built model airplanes, assembled our gear when the three boys went off to war (and two to Vietnam). The siblings got to know each other's wife (no, not that way!) and the wives formed a bond that has lasted -- when my brother Tony was slammed in the hospital for his nine (yeah, I said 9) bypasses, we were the first people his wife called and we were on the road over the next day.

Anyway, we buried Mom on the day after Easter and had a post-funeral get-together at my Uncle's. That evening, Uncle drove over to the house with a six-pack, figuring that he'd have to comfort the four kids. He found us around the kitchen table, talking, playing Yatzee, and going through papers Mom had saved (and a lot of it she had kept hidden from "us kids"). Uncle drank a beer, left the rest, and I'm sure walked out shaking his head.

All around the kitchen table. And as for the delay in burying my mother, sometimes I think she planned it that way.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: gnu
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 10:59 PM

Kendall's TV show entitled "Stories Told In The Kitchen" was one of the reasons so many New Brunswickers sent donations to MPBN (Maine Public Broadcasing Network). I never missed a show. I wish I had had a VCR back then. I suppose we are all "kitchen people" to some degree.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: *daylia*
Date: 26 Feb 06 - 06:56 AM

... I find the kitchen the most lonly place in the house.

Aww Rap, it'll only get better. Know it, ok?

I've had this little mood-lifter on my table for a few months now -- a peace lily growing in this big vase of water, so you can see the roots, complete with a lovely bright red and blue Siamese fighting fish. I sit beside it and watch it while I eat my meals alone. And believe it or not the little thing has learned to recognize me too! When I sit at that table these days it watches me, gets all excited and swims up to the surface looking for food. So, we eat together now, every day, under my cat's watchful gaze. :-)


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: *daylia*
Date: 26 Feb 06 - 07:00 AM

PS   It's not a good idea to put two Siamese fighting fish together in the same bowl. Having no space to themselves is just too stressful for them. There's wisdom in that, somewhere, I know ....


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 26 Feb 06 - 07:52 AM

I don't know if we ever had a kitchen table - I can't remember the set up of the house my great-grandfather built where I lived till I was 7. We lived in our next house till I was 14 & I can remember the bedroom I shared with my 2 sisters, & my parents bedroom & but not my brother's, or the bathroom or the kichen. I lived in the next house till I was 26 & I think it had a galley kitchen. Memory has never been my strong point, and as I get older ...

In all the years since then I've lived in flats with galley kitchens, usually on my own, so I almost feel deprived! Tho I have had some good times around other folk's tables.

I'm really enjoying other folks' memories.

sandra


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 26 Feb 06 - 08:15 AM

Funny thing is, in our home here in Derby, we spend more time sitting at the table in the "Great Room" next to the kitchen. I don't know who came up with the idea of "Great Rooms" but they were really on to something. Our Great Room is next to the kitchen, with just a three foot high half way dividing the two rooms. That means that food and conversation flow smoothly between the rooms. When someone is working in the kitchen and there are a lot of people in the house, they aren't cut off from the conversation and music, and the guests aren't clogging up the kitchen arteries. When we just have one or two people visiting, we often do end up in the kitchen.. at least while food is being prepared. We have a taller table with a stool where people like to sit, but our kitchen table is glass. I mean, it looks nie and all, but who can feel warm looking sitting at a glass table? It's like having a metal pillow.

The table in the Great Room is wood and we keep it expanded to it's full size, so 8 people can comfortably sit there. There is also a small couch and a love seat (AND a fireplace) in the Great Room, so it is a very inviting place to gather. On top of that, it has a ceramic tile floor and floor to ceilings windows on three sides, so the acoustics are terrific. Like a Men's Room without the urinals. That's where I record the Messengers.

There's more to say about the magical mix of food and music.. and birds. Definitely birds. But right now, I'm heading up for breakfast.

In the Great Room.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 26 Feb 06 - 11:23 AM

We were talking about doo-wop a little earlier. I always thought a real good one to start with is "Come Go With Me", by the DelVikings, I think. There are 3 or 4 different musical threads through the whole song--for various different voices--from bass to pretty high. And "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" is one everybody is likely to know. And I've always loved "Goodnight Sweetheart" by the Spaniels. But any suggestions anybody has would be great. Maybe we really should try to think singing some of the same doo-wop songs before we got to the Getaway. Unless people just want to show up and see what happens. That's always fun too.

Any thoughts?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jeanie
Date: 26 Feb 06 - 12:10 PM

I can't help with the "doo wop" at the Getaway, Ron, but I just wanted to pull up a chair for a minute to agree with Daylia about having fish in the kitchen and what great table companions they are ! I don't know if they have these in America, but over here in the UK a lot of older houses have a serving hatch between the kitchen and the dining room for plates to be passed through. The house we moved into when I was 10 had a serving hatch that the previous owners had put a tropical fish tank into, and we took it on, having never kept fish before. We had angel fish, catfish, neon tetras, all kinds, each with their own personalities and they made great "dining companions". The kitchen table was right next to the tank, and they'd always come across to have a look and a "chat". The house I moved into last summer had a hatch between the kitchen and living room, which has now been made into a window (handy to see what's going on on TV etc.) and I'm thinking of getting a tank again to put there.

I'm curious about these "Great Rooms", Jerry - I've never heard the term before.

Bye for now,
- jeanie


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: GUEST,KT
Date: 26 Feb 06 - 12:39 PM

Yikes! I'm rushing in and out again today. Not even enough time to read everyone's postings......I'm glad you're kkeping that kettle on Jerry. I'll be back!

And jimmyt, I may have been fired from the blues band, but I can do-op with the best of em! May I audition...please????

Sins, I've often wondered why it is that when I'm trying to pull together a spread for 12 people on Thanksgiving, they are always huddled around in my tiny kitchen, watching, instead of relaxing in the living room. Never fails!! Endearing, though!

Jerry, how did your gigs go?

KT


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: leftydee
Date: 26 Feb 06 - 12:56 PM

Ron, Do you remember "So Fine" by the Fiestas? "There's A Moon Out Tonight" by the Capris? Good harmonizers! The ol' doo wop just makes you smile, doesn't it?

I host a weekend music blast each July (to which you're all invited) and some doo wop always gets a special spot with eleventy-seven part harmonies. Man.... it sounds gooooood! I'll post a thread about the July gig later. We have from 60 to 90 folks each year and music from Friday night 'til kisses and hugs on Sunday. We have couple 'Catters there already in Cap't Bob and Coldjam. Great fun, food and music.

Earlier someone mentioned RedRose tea. Do you recall the old ads with Chimps dressed like rockers? It may be cruel, but performing chimps crack me up. I wish either of my bands was as entertaining as chimpanzees riding bicycles.

What a great place to talk with friends this is, here in your great room, Jerry!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: open mike
Date: 26 Feb 06 - 12:58 PM

Kate Wolf's Trumpet Vine is the first song that
comes to mind for me, too, on this topic. I
wonder if we have it in the D.T. if not, we
should. I will check!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 26 Feb 06 - 01:07 PM

Hey, KT:

I still have three today... actually two, but singing with two different groups at the same program.. One program is all spirituals.

Last night was interrresting. For the first time in the nine years that we've been together Joe and Frankie didn't make it at the last minute. The other member of our quartet moved to Florida, so you know that he wasn't there. So, it was a new first for me. I was the first one white man/black gospel quartet in History. Not that it bothered me particularly. I've performed alone most of my life, and I recognized several of the others groups because we've sung with them in other churches. I also sing alone in nursing homes all the time, so it felt right for me. I've gotten known as that white guy who sings in the black community, so I was right at home.

The greatest thing about the night was that they had a group called the Gospel Express. I talked to them awhile before the program and know one of the women who sings backup. The groups is fantastic. Think James Brown crossed with Wilson Pickett as their lead singer, and the three women sounding like the backup singers for Ike and Tina Turner. Throw in a lead guitar who sounds like he's off a Temptations album, and fine bass player and an 8 or 9 year old drummer that is already going professional, and you've got the group.
The lead singer is a soul singer who got the Spirit, and the lead guitar player (who is even older than I am) sang lead on one song that sounded like Hank Williams should have done it. My son Pasha from Ruth's first marriage was there with his wife, and Pasha and I were having a great time. We both love the old soul music. Never mind that Pasha is Muslim. He can still get down.

As for rhythm and blues (dubbed doo-wop many years after the fact, I have put together what I modestly think of as the definitive collection of rhythm and blues groups starting with the first black groups like the Ink Spots, the Mills Brothers and the Ravens, right up to a track from Paul Simon's failed Capeman musical. That's where I learned to sing harmony. Living next door to New Haven, I keep meeting singers from the early groups. Fred Paris, who sang lead on In The Still Of The Night is a good friend of a mutual friend who lived just a door away from us, Jimmy, who replaced Bill Kenny as the lead singer in the Ink Spots when Kenny went solo sings in one of the male choruses that I sing in, as does Doug, who sang with the Flamingos for something like 17 years, and also sang with the Coasters. New Haven has always been a hotbed of quartets, and still is. Now, it's gospel quartets... They're coming out of the woodwork.

Gotta get packed up to go..

Polly put the kettle on..

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 26 Feb 06 - 01:16 PM

Glad to see you Bob: I was hoping that you'd stop in.

Oh yeah, there's Ten Pound Radio that I wrote, that's on my second Folk Legacy album:

It wasn't all that long ago
When we listened to the radio
We all knew the songs by heart
And everybody sang their part
And every corner had a group
We sang Searchin' and Alley-oop
And even though those days are gone
I still like to sing those songs

   Now when you walk down town at night
   Underneath the street lamp light
   All the kids you're like to see
   They won't be working on their harmony
   Oh no......
   They'll all be listening to a ten pound radio
   And even though they know the song
   They never even sing along
   Oh no-o-oh, no,no,no,no-o-oh
   No-oh,no-oh,no-oh,no, no-o-oh
   No-oh, no-oh-oh o-oh- no-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh

Not sure I got all the no-oh-ohs right... you have to sing it to hear it.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: *Laura*
Date: 26 Feb 06 - 01:30 PM

I haven't got one of my own at the moment but I'm enjoying the kitchen table stories. I'm being the person at the moment who sits next to the table and listens to all the people sitting round it.
Nice thread Jerry

xLx


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 26 Feb 06 - 01:35 PM

Glad to see you, Laura:

Everyone has a tale that just waits to be told. You too..

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: leftydee
Date: 26 Feb 06 - 02:31 PM

Jerry,

I'm pickin' and grinning. I just played Davenport along with the tape The Secret Life of, well..... You.

Nice little gathering you've got going here. Listen closely, you'll here me growling out Ten Pound Radio in a minute.

Bob


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: leftydee
Date: 26 Feb 06 - 02:50 PM

Well....d'ja hear me? I was beltin' out that bass line!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Feb 06 - 03:00 PM

I can fondly remember many times around kitchen tables, but haven't had one in a few years now, as it happens. Every now and then I get to sit at Raptor's kitchen table, though. He has a traditionally set up living place in that sense, and it's nice. It has a great view in the backyard.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: lady penelope
Date: 26 Feb 06 - 06:02 PM

I've always liked Blue Moon done as a doo wop song........


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Snuffy
Date: 26 Feb 06 - 07:06 PM

Bom bom a bom a bom bom a bom a
Dang a dong dang a ding a dong ding


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: number 6
Date: 26 Feb 06 - 08:29 PM

I don't like doo wop ... but it is beter than apacella.

sIx


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 Feb 06 - 08:29 PM

Hey, Jerry, we call ours "The Dining Room." A counter/low wall between the table, etc. and the kitchen, just enough that you can tell they're two different areas. Our table, extended, has eight regular chairs and we have seated sixteen adults (but it's cozy). We leave our table extended, and we eat there all the time.

And then there's the back porch (deck). Summertime, we eat out there and watch the golfers and then, when the golfers go home, we watch the sun set behind the mountains seventy miles away. Best show in town; someday the city is gonna charge us entertainment tax.

Come 'round, tune up the guitar that's in the basement by the fireplace. And oh yea, that's another "great room" area....


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 26 Feb 06 - 09:06 PM

Sounds good, Rap:

We don't have a mountain view, although we are at the highest end of Hillcrest Ave, which pretty much says it all. What we do have is an area we created for attracting birds. Our yard is small, but there is an 8 foot (or 14 foot if I don't trim it) hedge between our house and the neighbors. We created a bird sanctuary with a squirrel- proof bird feeder (yes they do exist,) two (Count 'em) birdhouses our Grandson and his friend made for us, a bird bath and in the summer, two recirculating waterfalls. When we sit at our table (which sounds much like yours) we look out a floor-to-ceiling wall directly at the small bird sanctuary. The birds are endless entertainment (even moreso than the fish in the aquarium that have become so large that Ruth is afraid of them.) We also have a deck off the Great Room where we have cookouts. Last Summer, our son Pasha and his son "little" Pa-Sha and I (mostly helping) built a screened-in Gazebo that comfortably sits 16 people. Between the Great room and kitchen, the deck and the gazebo, we can easily handle 40 people... and usually do a couple of times a year. There's music and food... the two basic fuels of life.

And plenty of extra guitars, banjos, mandolas and even a fiddle..

And Bob, if I ever make it out to Michigan again or we make it to the Getaway, I know who to get to sing the bass part on Ten Pound Radio..

Doom boppa doom, Doom boppa doom, badah Doom boppa doom...

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Feb 06 - 09:10 PM

Great thread, Jerry...

Oh, where to start???

I grew up sitting a a huge "dining" room table that seats 12.... It's where my mom would offer me 2 cents to finish the remianing brocolli... It was where my mom and dad would argue over civil rights as my brother and I would look on... And where when I came into my own self I would argue about politics, civil right, and the war in Vietnam...

But it was also a table where our gay nest door neighbors would talk of theater and art... And where my friends woould sit when ivited to dinner... My dad worked for Ford Motor Company and he would have his business friends over for dinners there and my mom would be on her best behavior...

Then I got marries and my folks moved away to New York City and the table went into storage... And then they moved again and again as my dad kept getting different jobs but the table was always "somewhere" with blankets thrown over it...

Then when I moved to Wes Ginny and was designing an addition on the house we had bought I asked about "the table" and my parents seemed relieved that I wanted it and so I built a big room for it and until recently moving back to Virginia had it for 18 years... And in those 18 years it took on a new life... Next to it is where my son ate his first meals in his high-chair... It was at that table that Judy and I spent our evenings and where relatives and friends sat when they came to visit... It was there that many an evening I would be asked to play a few songs and ended up playin' half the night...

And it was at that table that Judy took her last meal... It was a Tuesday and she died that Friday...

Foure years later it was the table where I served my new wife, P-Vine, her first Bobert-cooked breakfast and where we had all three of her sons and their wives for Thanksgivings...

BUT it was also the table where I would sit every December and write out Christmas cards to my family and to my friends and, if nothing else, this has been it's most important duty as I try very hard to stay in touch, even if only once a year, with my friends... Yeah, some prolly wonder why I still do it since I don't see them too much anymore but it means a lot to me and sitting at that table writing messages to my old friends keep the lines of communication open for when I get time to see them agian... You included, Jerry... sniff..

Now, since the move "the table" is yet back in storage and I am building madly trying to make a space for it and it will happen and my prayersa and my hopes are that many folks who I have come to know- and love- here at Mudcat will come to visit and sit at "the table" and add another chapter to its glorious life...

No, it's not exactly a "kitchen" table but, hey, I think if it could talk, there's probably not too many "kitchen" tables that wouldn't let it thru the door....

I'll let everyone know when it's ready for some new chapters...

And...

...thanks Jerry. One day you and Ruth will break bread with me and the P-Vine and...

..."the table"...

Yer Bro,
Bobert


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 26 Feb 06 - 09:18 PM

"It was his old kitchen table.." I can already here the song. Certainly a worthy topic for one. I actually wrote a song about our screen porch door... mentioned it in one thread or another on the Cat so I won't repeat it. Sometimes, something inanimate is woven so finely into our life that it seems to take on a character of its own. That old saying, "If walls could talk" applies to kitchen tables and screen porch doors, too.

My oldest son, his wife and kids have moved to North Carolina. I wouldn't be surprised if we ended up swinging down that way, maybe catch you and the Pea-Vine, maybe even catch a day at the Getway. Ya never know...

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Amos
Date: 26 Feb 06 - 11:19 PM

It was just an old kitchen table
It had been painted six or seven times
It was where I'd sit while my momma made us dinner
It was where I saw my first dime
If I needed a place to take apart a radio
Or glue a plastic model plane
There was that old kitchen table waitin' there
And I wish that I had it back again.

The winter I was seventeen, Joleen and I drank cocoa
And sat there while we talked about our plans.
And if Momma went upstairs when the kitchen clock said nine,
We'd get a chance to kiss and hold each others' hands
We would sit and listen to the kitchen radio
Singing "Blue Moon" and "Cryin' in the Rain"
Just an old kitchen table waiting there when it was needed
And I wish that I had it back again.

...hell, it's a rough and smarmy start, but it's a start. IMagine a tune vaguely parallel to "Momma Tried".

A


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 26 Feb 06 - 11:37 PM

Jerry--

That's amazing--that you have all those connections with those classic doo-wop groups--the lead singer in the 5 Satins, and you mentioned the Flamingos and even pre doo-wop classics--the Ink Spots. Just wonderful stuff--it is so great to be in a group and just be able to break into multi-part harmony in a field or on the street. I used to be in a madrigal group and we'd do that in restaurants, etc (after a Renaissance Fair for instance.)

And I noticed that a lot of my singing friends weren't getting much exercise so I started "Volleyball Not For Singers Only"--we'd play volleyball and sing madrigals and Sacred Harp between games. We weren't very good at volleyball--that's for sure--we also had players who did things like one put a deflated beach ball on his head. I always imagined we were getting some exercise. And we had some really good volleys from time to time. But we had to try to attract some good players to keep games lively. Fortunately we had a lot of friends (remember it was not for singers only)--and some of the non-madrigal people even enjoyed hearing madrigals and Sacred Harp between games (all memorized). We even tried once to sing while playing-- I AM the Rose of Sharon and the LILL-y of the Valley. We only tried it once.

Anyway, I just love all sorts of a cappella, unaccompanied or whatever anybody wants to call it--archipelago, Acapulco etc.

Hope we can do more at the Getaway this year.

And Leftydee--your sessions sound just wonderful.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 27 Feb 06 - 08:32 AM

Good start, Amos... keep working on it... it should be a fine song.

Yes, Ron: It is amazing to sing with some of the old rhythm and blues legends. Jimmy, who sang lead with the Ink Soots for so many years was my first choice to replace our tenor. He sang with us once, and it was very exciting! He stepped in and sang with us for the first time when we were performing. He immediately found his harmony and we blended together beautifully. He's also a verey sweet man. Unfortunately, he doesn't have the freedom to join the group because he has heavy demands on his life because of health problems in his family. Family has to come first, and I understand that. Doug also sang with us three or four times... the one who not only sang tenor for so many years with the Flamingos, but was also on the Five Satins recording of In The Still Of The Night, which was recorded in the basement of a house in New Haven. Doug didn't work out because he has a much more contemporary approach to harmony and doesn't really enjoy the straightforward four-part harmony that we love. It was a difference in style and we couldn't make it work. Maybe I should see if Fred Paris would like to join us.

One thing I've seen in my life is how certain cities become a hotbed for particular styles of music. That's always been true from Nashville to Detroit with the Motown sound, Philly, Seattle, Minneapolis in the era of the artist formerly known as Prince, New York, Boston, Chicago and San Francisco for the folk revival.. New Haven has always been a hotbed for groups, and many of the great rhythm and blues groups came from there. I spent most of my adult life in Stamford, Ct. which is only 45 miles at most from New Haven.
I started my gospel quartet there, and we were the only old-styyle gospel quartet in Stamford and the surrounding towns. In New Haven when they put a program together, they invite more than twenty different groups to come and with each group doing tow songs, the programs can last four or five hours. Now that we are no longer in Stamford, there isn't a single old-style gospel quartet singing there, while there are probably thirty or 40 in New Haven and the neighboring communities.

I also wanted to comment about sharing music. But, I think I'll start another post for that. I think I've pretty much used up a screen's worth with this one.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 27 Feb 06 - 08:48 AM

There's always been a lot of talk about being a cheerful giver. They say that God loves a cheerful giver. There's much less talk about being a cheerful receiver. If we can't be a cheerful receiver, we are denying someone the chance to be a cheerful giver. I used to tell a friend of mine who was constantly sending me music that I was his "unplowed field." Now musically, I am not completely "unplowed," but the image seemed right. We all need friends who are "unplowed fields". If we didn't have them, how could we know the joy of sharing?

Ten years ago when I first joined the black Men's Chorus that I sing in, I was so excited about singing with the guys (we don't sing from sheet music and learn all the parts by ear,) that I could hardly contain myself. And couldn't think of a good reason why I should. So, I put together a listening tape of some of my favorite black gospel recordings and gave a copy to every man in the chorus, and a few friends. The Male Chorus is about 40 men, and I ended up making pretty close to 50 copies. There are also folks we visit who are house bound because of age or health problems who appreciate getting music. When I handed out the cassettes, the guys said, "How much do I owe you?" and started reaching for their wallet. I told them "You don't owe me anything... just enjoy the music, and that's more than enough payment for me." Everyone enjoyed the tape so much that I made a Volume II and shared copies with everyone. I finally ran out of enough good material after I finished Volume VIII. All told, I made close to 400 cassettes and completely burned out my tape box in the process. But, no one was happier than I was. And that's how sharing works.

Lest it sound like I am congratulating myself for my generosity, I have to say that I can never give as much as I have received. For every tape or CD I send out, I've probably received as much from others.. often people are hardly know. If I end up sending Catters music, understand that I am only giving in response to the generosity of others towards me. My friends who have been so generous to me have so much more music than I do that I can't give them the same amount of music in return. I have to give to other "unplowed fields." In the Good Folks" thread, I mentioned Don Stevens and Jim Hickam as two people who have buried me in wonderful music. There is no way that I can reciprocate with them. But, I can shower someone they have never met with music. And that person can shower someone else.

If we all took showers, the world would be a better place to live in.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Amos
Date: 27 Feb 06 - 09:42 AM

If we all took showers, the world would be a better place to live in.


Sometimes the simplest ideas are the most powerful.

:D


A


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 27 Feb 06 - 04:56 PM

It's been a beautiful day, the sun is setting and we're about to have supper in our Great Room. I talked to the guys today and we're having practice this Saturday morning up here. Today at the dentist's, I was talking with the Dental Hygienist (before she filled my mouth with tubes) and she told me that her husband was listening to a CD I gave her a year ago of the Messengers when we did a concert in Washington, D.C. for the GWFSS. She said that he had asked if he could ever come to one of our practices because he loves our music. He plays guitar and was in charge of the music ministry at his church for 8 years and sings TENOR! and us being without a tenor and all... When I got home, I talked with my wife about it (NEVER ask friends over for food unless you ask your wife first, fellas... that's real dissrespectful.) She was fine with it, so this Saturday we'll have a tenor to be named later coming to sing with us and a genoouine Dental Hygienist thrown in on the deal. There'll be plenty of food and a lot of music.

And plenty of room...

I'll keep an eye out the window, looking for you..

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 27 Feb 06 - 04:57 PM

Oh yeah, be sure to floss before you come..

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Charmion
Date: 27 Feb 06 - 05:42 PM

WE have a green leather armchair and a La-Z-Boy couch in our kitchen, with an ottoman and a beat-up pine coffee table. The "real" kitchen table is a granite-topped work island -- not very homey -- but somehow the couch and the armchair and the coffee table cancel out the graniteness. The inevitable presence of Perdita (small black cat) in the armchair helps, of course.

My kitchen is primarily a workshop, a clean version of the village forge where I liked to hang out when I was four. Like the blacksmith's shop, half of the kitchen is workspace and the other half is entirely social. Sometimes the social impinges on the work, and elbows have to be nudged out of the pastry, but in the seven years Edmund and I have lived there I have only once shooed people out so I could make the gravy in peace. It doesn't matter if I put out a tray of glasses and tempting bottles in the -- what did you call it, Jerry, a Great Room? -- right, the Great Room. People always go where the action is, and plop themselves down at Ground Zero.

We have a round mahogany dining table that I bought for $200 from a guy who put an advertisement in the Penny Saver. I love that table so much I even paid a cabinet-maker another $200 to make leaves for it so it could be expanded to seat eight. The Victorian oak chairs came from my great-grandfather's house in Beauport, Quebec, and I dimly remember sitting on one of those chairs, supplemented with a cushion and three volumes of the Encyclopaedia Britannica, as a very small child. My father would shove his thumb between the rails into the small of my back to make me sit up straight; he deeply disapproved of children who slumped at the table. He later told me that his father had done exactly the same thing.

I think the single thing Edmund likes best in life is to sit down with half a dozen friends at that table, and then proceed to ply them with course after course of hearty food, accompanied by lashings of wine. I remember him looking at a photograph of a festive table-setting in the Homes section of the newspaper: you know the kind, all centrepieces and place cards. "Where the hell are they going to put the turkey?" he demanded. "That's no way to set a table!"


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Micca
Date: 27 Feb 06 - 06:05 PM

Charmion, I KNOW what he means!!! when I had the opportunity to get a Dining Table made to my specs. It is 6'6"long and 3'6"wide sothat there is room down the middle between place settings for dishes of food!!!
But to pick up Jerrys Kitchen Tables theme, yeah, it was the centre of our house when I was growing up, complete with the split in a board in the middle that my father had accidently made while he was making a fishing rod on it. When we moved to England in the late 50s-early 60S it got left behind as we could only take what we could carry. So, along with my collection of "carefully saved for" books hoarded and added to from 2nd hand sources, my first microscope and other personal effects it was left behind. It was many years before I realised that a focus was missing from things. But gradually other Kitchen tables in other peoples houses made new memories , some of the best I have,of music and talk and singing. Now my mother and sister ( who were the indisputable Queens of their Kitchen tables) have passed on and I am reminded again that Kitchen tables are so important because so often they are close to the centre of caring and love in a house.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: GUEST,Joe_F
Date: 27 Feb 06 - 08:55 PM

Likewise, Ken Hicks's "All the Good People":



We drank in the kitchen & held no competition,

Each knowing the other was a good friend to have.



Alas, my kitchen is too small for a table. It is a real kitchen, but about the size & shape of a dining-car one. Likewise in the house in Vermont when I was a kid. But in California, we were so fancy-shmancy that we had a *breakfast room*, on the opposite side of the kitchen from the dining room. The only sociable kitchen I've ever had was while I lived in a rooming house in Cambridge, MA, oh, 45 years ago or so.

--- Joe Fineman    joe_f@verizon.net

||: A politician uses statistics as a drunk uses a lamppost -- for support rather than illumination. :||


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: kendall
Date: 27 Feb 06 - 09:02 PM

We gathered in the kitchen because that's where the stove was.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: kendall
Date: 27 Feb 06 - 09:18 PM

I don't feel at liberty to analize Gordon. All I can say is, he is my oldest best friend, and you would never believe some of the things we have done. He is a man who values his privacy and doesn't do well with people who try to insinuate themselves into his circle of comfort. That's typical of Mainers; I'm the same way. In fact, there is an old Maine saying: "Be careful who you befriend, they will want something from you sooner or later." Now, we are not that bad, but you get the idea.
He's one of the finest people I know, and even after almost 50 years, I still don't know him totally.

He is at his least approachable when he is performing. His mind is on what he is doing almost to the exclusion of all else. That I understand too, having a similar mind set.

Lastly, he is not "stuck on himself", just shy.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 12:00 AM

Kendall--

Absolutely nothing wrong with valuing privacy--that's for sure. But you sure are teasing us--"you wouldn't believe some of the things we have done"--isn't there one story you can tell us--here around the kitchen table.?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: GUEST,Kt
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 01:06 AM

stay tuned.....


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Amos
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 01:53 AM

Yeah, Skipper -t'aint fair ya know -- tell all!!

:D


A


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: GUEST,King Table
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 06:50 AM

Tables r grate


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: kendall
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 08:56 AM

We have never done anything illegal or immoral, yet I still don't know if he would appreciate me sharing some of the mis adventures.

Ok, maybe just a couple. Many years ago, Gordon and I visited Dave Mallett, and we decided to have home made beef stew. In the process of making it and consuming large quantities of firewater, the stew came out looking like a seagull's breakfast. It made me very ill, but I've never been sure if it was the stew or the booze.
Anyway, we were having a hell of a good time, swapping songs, and stories, (Mallett is a very funny guy when he relaxes) and, at one point, we were discussing songs that we mis heard the right lyrics to, and found out later that we were wrong all along.

Mallett told us about learning a song in which the hero comes home from the war and his wife is not home. He looks all around and finds a picture of her and another man. She is dressed in a wedding gown, so he knows she thinks him dead.
The line goes....I saw a picture of her and a man. Well he was a small boy when he heard this, and what he heard was,...I saw a picture of her and a HAM. That started a giggle fest, then when Gordon reminded us that a certain song from OZ went...and freedom's humping bluie.. and we were on the floor.

I spent a week or so on his boat sailing from Falmouth to Rockport, and every night we would drop anchor and have a few brews and sing some of the old songs we learned when we first met back in 1959.
At one point, I said to him, "Do you have some first aid cream? I have a chafe in a rather tender spot, and I think it's caused by TIDE laundry detergent." He said "What the hell are you doing with it"?

There are funnier stories but I don't know if he would appreciate my sharing them with the world!

We have spent countless hours swapping stories and songs over a bit of John Barleycorn, and I tell you, there is no one in the world whos friendship and company I value more.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 09:01 AM

I can understand that, Kendall. I've got similar stories. In fact, we all probably do. Good, laughing times.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 09:16 AM

Thanks, Kendall. You remind me of a couple of things.

This too is not telling anything about Gordon "Out of school." This was an admission that he made in a workshop that I did many years ago at the Eisteddfod. It was a "singing" workshop... the only one that I ever hosted. I have never taken singing lessons, or ever even felt tempted to. That's not to knock them... it's just an experience and knowledge that I don't have. Gordon and Sandy & Caroline were in the workshop and the first thing I asked people to do was to talk about who they first imitated as singers (or at least sang along with and were influenced by.) I started out doing Blue Suede Shoes and talked about Carl Perkins. I could as easily have done Blue Monday, and talked about Fats Domino. When it was Gordon's turn, I imagine that most people thought he'd say that he really learned to sing by singing along with some old, crusty lobster fisherman sitting on a rocky coastline in Maine. It's understandable to me that people who are well loved as musicians or singers cultivate a persona and never let a crack appear. It's a way to keep your own life private. I really got a kick out of Gordon (who has a wonderful sense of humor.) One of his first influences? Perry Como. Perry Como? Why not Dean Martin? Funny thing is, Gordon shares that in common with Elvis, who acknowledged Perry Como as one of his main images. How weird that two singers as different as Gordon and Elvis could have the same influence. I admired Gordon for that. What could be less self-aggrandizing at a folk festival than saying that Perry Como was an early influence? Maybe Margaret MacArthur saying her first influence as a singer was Annette Funicello.

Coming up with funny lines that can destroy a song has to be a natural, adult hangover of making up silly satires when we were kids. For many years, I sang with Luke Faust and one of our very favorite songs we did as a duet was Mary Of The Wild Moore, which we learned from a Blue Sky Boys recording. There is a very dramatic line in the song where Mary's Father comes down and opens the front door of his house in the morning to find Mary dead from lieing (... how in the world do you spell lieing?) on the doorstep in the cold all night. As the song says, "with the child still alive, closely clasped in its dead Mother's arm." How did the old man respond to this horrific scene. The line says, "In anguish he tore his gray hair." I was fooling around one night and sang it "In anguish he tore his gray shirt." That was it. I guess we were in a silly mood like you, David and Gordon, Kendall. Somehow, it seemed like the funniest image imagineable. Kinda like the biblical phrase, "Thou hast caused me to rend my garments." It took forever to be able to sing that song with a straight face again. What a stupid point in the song to go into hysterics! I can sing the song straight now, but I must admit that the thought does cross my mind, when I get to that line...

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 09:27 AM

Jerry, you ought to try singing a song after your brother has messed with the lines!

These came out once when he was fixing dinner (yes, we sit around the kitchen table in homes of both my brothers).

"He drove his car to the racing ground/He was the only driver there...."
"By the rising of the moon YEE-HAA! by the rising of the moon...."
"..and she fell down dead in the yellow snow..."


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 09:32 AM

Now there's a thread for you, Rap: Songs we've ruined by changing a line..

They must be legion..

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Amos
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 09:33 AM

Jerry:

Wish you could have been over in Pacific Beach with us, last night. Chicken Kiev and wine a-flowing and the most amazing evolution of inspired, spontaneous dancing; one of our party was a Mexican airline pilot who demonstrated a beautiful karate form, and another was a vivid modern dancer who taught us African dances of welcome, and then the oceanographer and the choreographer started waltzing to the strains of "Night Rider's lament" and the wine kept flowing freely. You would have had a blast. After we staggered home to bed, I dreamed i was sitting at your Magic Kitchen Table, telling you the whole thing. Go figger!

And I like the notion of you being the Keeper of a new permanent Mudcat Artifact, the Magic Kitchen Table, right up there with Spaw's possum whistle, Jen's flaming kestrel, Mick's potato-thong, and tipples...I mean tupples...aw, hell, you know what I mean.

A


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 10:30 AM

Thanks, Amos: I would like to have this thread here as a cyber-kitchen table where we all stop in and talk about whatever we feel like talking about. We'll all run out of nostalgic kitchen table stories, and while I'm enjoying reading every one, I did hope that this thread would work just as your last post did... people just stopping by to talk about something they'd be likely to share around a kitchen table.

And even though you wouldn't appreciate the subject matter of the songs, you might have enjoyed the black gospel group I described earlier in this thread. While I have always loved rhythm and blues and soul singers, I didn't have any opportunity to hear them in an all-white small town in Wisconsin. And, by the time I came to New York, that music was pretty much gone. Not that I could have afforded to go hear anyone on my peanut butter budget. All the great soul singers came out of black churches, and every once in awhile I'll come across someone who seems like they've stepped out of a time warp. It's the closest I'll ever get to hearing Wilson Pickett or James Brown. (James Brown is still performing but he stands completely still now... too old to dance.) The lead singer of the gospel quartet got down on one knee very dramatically when a line in the song talked about dropping to our knees in prayer. All he needed was a cape, and a couple of stage hands to help him get back on his feet, like James Brown used to do.. His day job is a bus driver, in New Haven..

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Amos
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 11:42 AM

MIGHT have??? I'm afraid I have given you a false impression of my views, Jerry. I would have been jumping with the gang, here ta tell ya. A good gospel group is a thing of joy.



A


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 12:10 PM

I thought it was interesting, by the by, that no one claimed the 100th post. Feels very kitcheny. I've never know anyone to say, "I just said the 100th sentence!" sitting around a kitchen table.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 02:37 PM

I knew a judge who celebrated his 100th sentence....


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 02:51 PM

well, I 'almost' posted here the other day, but was busy and by the time I got back, the thread had gotten a lot longer and I felt like I oughta READ it before jumping in...but now I got an engraved invitation from Jerry, and I just bit the bullet and let it flow over me. (like all the tea & coffee, I guess)

I spent most of my adult life drinking tea..(good tea! Loose tea...) but a few years ago, some regular company around my kitchen table needed coffee ☺, and I sorta got converted. I still HAVE good tea on hand, but coffee kinda gets ya'.....

I am fortunate, living where I do and getting to meet so many in the folk community. I have recently shared my kitchen table with Dick Greenhaus & Susan of DT, and not too far back with Danny Spooner, Elizabeth LaPrelle (young singer extraordinare) and her family, Noreen & Stewart (after the Getaway), and a couple years ago, greg stephens & Kate. I have had the pleasure of sitting at Bobert's table (indoors & out!)........and SO many local folks, some of whom post here, and some who don't.....and if you want to think of those amazing long tables at the Getaway as 'kitchen', there are a hundred more I could list! Jeri & Kendall and KT and Ebbie and Ron Davies and Amos and Micca and Charmion and Snuffy and jimmyt all know what I mean. It's not the 'quiet' and feeling of home, but it tells me that I know places now where I could go and find a welcome and that cup of coffee (or tea).

Maybe I will get to some of those places one of these days.....

My kitchen table is small & round, but we can get 5-6 settin' around when necessary...and that's a good limit to an easy conversation, anyway.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 11:04 PM

Maybe one of these days I'll drop by for a cupa, Bill. I'd enjoy sitting around your kitchen table and just shooting the breeze.

Ya never know..

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 11:15 PM

we'll be here. (and before & after the Getaway is always a good time...)

ohhhh! Hey, Jerry...it just hit me. I have some digital pictures of you & Ruth at The Royal Mile Pub...that time when Bobert came in. I'll get those put up someplace where you can grab'em! (It wasn't a 'kitchen' table, but there was some good conversation!)(I put them in a strange file when I took 'em off the camera and lost track!)


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 01 Mar 06 - 12:07 AM

Kitchen tables can be anywhere, Bill ... in pubs, auditoriums, church basements, backyards... They can be beautiful walnut or mahogany, card tables, picnic tables, folding tables with tempera paint splattered all over them.. even glass.

It's the people who sit around them who make the difference..

I have some shots from the Royal Mile Pub of the Bobert and Pea Vine, Chance and Susette, and maybe even you, Bill. I didn't know who you were at the time and I have a couple of photos of mighty handsome couples. Maybe you're in one of them...

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 01 Mar 06 - 08:50 PM

Been a quiet day around the table.. been out much of the day, and have spent most of this evening working on burning tracks to a CD.

Every once in a while I check the BS to see if there are any threads that don't end with a question mark.. :-)

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Mar 06 - 09:44 PM

I just put the last brushstrokes on the "Sun Room" (formerly "The Cave"). Now to clean it up, redo the lighting, put up curtains and things, and start using it! Hot dog! -- we'll be using the whole house!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 01 Mar 06 - 10:35 PM

Sounds good, Rap. Is a sun room anything like a Great Room? Our Great Room has glass on three sides and probably would have been called a sun room in previous times.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 01 Mar 06 - 11:24 PM

Jerry--

I thought this might be of interest to others around the table, so I'd ask it. The Levi Kelly story from your CD Back When I Was Young--what year was this alleged crime, and where?    The song came from an old-style broadside?--I understand you have a copy. And what was he supposed to have done? Is the song based on fact?--I gather there must be something behind the broadside.

Thanks,

Ron


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 01 Mar 06 - 11:56 PM

Hey Ron: I've spent most of this evening cleaning my office. Thank God I misplace things. It's about the only motivation I seem to have for straightening up. :-) I still haven't found what I'm looking for, as Bono would say, so I'll keep my eye out for the copy of the broadside when I'm looking, tomorrow. As for the CD of mine, Back When I was Young, you are the only person on Mudcat that has a copy at this point, Ron. Many years ago when I was visiting Sturbridge Village, they were printing copies of the old handbill describing the attempted hanging of Levi Kelly. I do believe it was based on an actual event that occured in Massachusetts where so many people gathered on teh scaffold to witness the hanging that the scaffold collapsed from the weight and several people were seriously injured or killed. I haven't read the handbill in 20 years, so I make no claim to the accuracy of the account.

If I run across it, I'll post it in this thread..

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 02 Mar 06 - 10:20 PM

Jerry--

Thanks so much for the information on Levi Kelly. If you find more, it would be great--it's quite a story--and a song.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 02 Mar 06 - 10:34 PM

Thanks Ron... looks like we have the table to ourselves for awhile. That's fine, too.

I just burned a 5 CD set of rhythm and blues for you. Kinda got snowed in today, but if I can get to the Post Orifice tomorrow, I'll throw them in the mail.

Also finished a 14 song master CD of the Gospel Messengers.

Cooking over here, and not in the kitchen.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 03 Mar 06 - 10:30 AM

All's quiet at the table today. Mostly me and Ron recently. That will all change around here, tomorrow. Tomorrow morning is Messengers practice, so my wife and I are busy getting ready. Funny thing is, the one thing I don't spend a lot of time getting ready for is the music. It seems like the music is a good reason for eating a lot and just sitting around, enjoying each other. We sing this Sunday, but it's only two songs at a celebration with ten or twelve other groups, and we can do two songs rolling out of bed at three in the morning. This practice will be different though, because I've invited my dental hygenist and her husband. Dental hygenist, you ask? Next practice is for lawyers. Only kidding. When my mouth isn't full of gadgets at the dentist's office, I talk about what's going on in my life with the hygenist (and the dentist) and I've shared a CD of the Messengers with them both. My dental hygenist said last week that she and her husband love the CD and had been listening to it that morning. She said that if there was ever a chance when her husband could come to one of our practices, he would really be excited. So of course, I invited the two of them for practice tomorrow. There's always room for one more. I've tried to reach someone who sings in the male chorus I sing in to come over too, with more ulterior motives. He's a wonderful tenor, but declined a few months ago when I asked him if he'd like to sing with us. He's retiring this month, so I thought this was a good time to not so subtly try to reel him in. If he can't make it, we'll be singing at the same program, on Sunday.

Good tenors are hard to come by..

Thinking about tomorrow reminds me of the last practice we had with our tenor, Derrick before he moved to Florida. Derrick was with us for 7 years and is one of the most delightful people I've ever hade the honor of calling a friend. That made our last practice very poignant. It was doubly enjoyable because Col K and Leadfingers were here and came with me to the practice at Frankie's house. It's a night I'll never forget..

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Leadfingers
Date: 04 Mar 06 - 06:09 AM

Finally got the time to sit and chat ! Its been a bit chaotic here the last couple of days , and MY kitchen isnt big enough for a STOOL let alone a table folks could sit round !
Jerry - talking about meeting old friends , a thread was started late last year about Uxbridge Folk Club concerts , and one of the first replies was from EffSee , a new catter , asking about me ! Turned out he's an old RAF mate who I hadnt seen for over thirty years , and we are now in regular contact - He even made it to Portaferry in February , and it was as if we had been singing together in Changi Attic club last week , rather than in 1970 !
Oh , and dont bother with the tea pot - English I might be (and proud of it) but I still prefer a cup (Or perhaps a BUCKET ) of coffee .


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 04 Mar 06 - 07:56 AM

Hi Jerry,

As Shakespeare said, a blue jay hath murdered sleep. Well, he said something like that.

Actually, I like blue jays--and I'm glad to have them back--it means West Nile, which was really cutting them down, is on the wane. These must be the survivors who have genetically modified to counter it.

They have quite a few calls, including Jan's favorite--what she calls "bloopy bloopy", during which their head bobs up and down.

And of course it's partly my own fault I woke up too early (didn't bet to bed til 1)--ate weird stuff late at night. Didn't get back from work til 8:30 and she had cooked a Portobello mushroom with onions and some other things. Probably not the best thing to eat at 8:30. And then I was still hungry, so I ate bread and other stuff.

The song I woke up with in my head was, I think, by Joe Diffie

"I only planned on one or two--I might stay for three
If that good looking thang in the corner keeps staring back at me
It's so easy not to care 'bout what's right or what's wrong
It's too hot to fish, too hot for golf
And it's too cold at home."

I really like that one--and so does Jan.

There's an Ohrwurm (earworm) thread or there was--but I don't really see what the problem is for anybody who can sing. You just sing a song you like just before walking out the door. Then it'll stay in your head all day.

Admittedly I did have to ask a co-worker to turn down his music. But we're on good terms--and all I asked him to do was turn down the bass--so it didn't come throbbing through the wall. In fact, as I told him, I actually liked a lot of the music he was playing, but I can't work with a bass coming through the wall. I couldn't hear the words--but I could tell from the bass what song it was.

How are things in your neck of the woods?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 04 Mar 06 - 08:01 AM

Jerry-

And thanks so much for that R & B. You're really going overboard on your generosity. Mudcat must be turning out to be a big benefactor to the US Postal Service.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 04 Mar 06 - 08:04 AM

"Down on the corner where the kids hang out
And listen to the radio
At two in the morning, they act real mean
If you ask 'em just to keep it down low."

   Now isn't that a dreadful shame?
   Isn't that a dreaful shame?
   The kids can't have any fun anymore
   Isn't that a dreadful shame?

Yeah, I can't deal with that booming bass stuff. Sometimes they have the sound system up so loud in church before the service starts and they're singing Praise and Worship songs, I can't stand to be in the building... they even pipe the sound downstairs. I keep intending to print up some small stickers for the people on the keyboards and guitars that says:

God Is Not Hard Of Hearing

God wearing a hearing aid... now there's a good one.

Got Messengers coming... I'll check back in later and talk about birds..

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 04 Mar 06 - 08:20 AM

Amos get this one finished - great song. when I fist saw the tread - I thought Jerry's had a great idea for a song. maybe you could manage with two verses. repeat the first. but what raptor said about the missing faces round the table needs to be in there somewhere.

you got me singing it already

all the best

al


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: kendall
Date: 04 Mar 06 - 09:57 AM

Jerry, I avoid all places where those empty headed idiots are allowed to take over.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 04 Mar 06 - 12:28 PM

Hey Al: If you're referring to Dreadful Shame, it is a complete song.

The other verses are:

Old Aunt Addie she's lived too long
The neighbors all complain
Walking all around in an old print dress
She hardly even knows her name

   Isn't that a dreadful shame?
   Isn't that a dreadful shame?
   The old folks are messing up the neighborhood
   Isn't that a dreadful shame

(one the chorus, it's just the third line that changes)

Bill he's small and built for speed
His car is just the same
They caught him doing 50 in a 25 zone
Now the judge says he has to pay

   He had to pay good money just because he broke the law

Donw on the farm, the government pays
If you don't plant nothing at all
And then they try to tell you that the crops have all failed
And the price is going up in the Fall

   When a man can make a living doing nothing at all

Some are too young and some are too old
And most are too blind to see
You'd think with all these people who are living 'round here
There'd be a few as nice as me

   Out of all these people, not a one like me

It's alright to crack an instrument case here... we're in the kitchen..

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Elmer Fudd
Date: 05 Mar 06 - 01:39 AM

There's a mighty fine book called "Kitchen Table Wisdom," by Rachel Naomi Remen.

Remen is one of a growing number of physicians exploring the spiritual dimension of the healing arts. "Sitting around the table telling stories is not just a way of passing time," writes Remen in her introduction. "It is the way wisdom gets passed along. The stuff that helps us live a life worth remembering." Remen, a physician, therapist, professor of medicine, and long-term survivor of chronic illness, is also a down-home storyteller.

"Coherent, elegant, mysterious, aesthetic," she writes. "When I first earned my degree in medicine I would not have described life in this way. But I was not on intimate terms with life then."


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 05 Mar 06 - 07:32 AM

no I meant the basic concept from your first posting on this thread Jerry

seemed like a really good theme, a powerful thought

perhaps I got lost in there, but I thought Amos had run with it

all the best
al


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 05 Mar 06 - 12:05 PM

Got you, Al:

That's not my gift. Looks like it is Amos's. You know, they talk about "gifted children," but everyone is gifted. Everyone. The secret is to recognize what your gift is (and isn't,) and be grateful for it. And not envious of other's gifts. It seems like most songwriters have the gift of setting out to write a song with a particular statement. When I try to do that, I get too self-conscious, and it doesn't work well for. I mean, the words rhyme, but it sounds like a song someone really tried hard to write. It should sound effortless... or at least, that's true for me. If I tried to write a song about a kitchen table, you probably wouldn't want to hear it. You, Amos and many others have that gift. I don't.
I don't write songs, I tame them. They are like shy, timid wild creatures. If I approach them too aggressively, they run for cover. I need to coax them out, encourage them and if they draw back, let them. They will come to me in their own time.

A few weeks ago, I invited a wonderful singer to sing with the Messengers as a possible replacement for our tenor who moved away. He considers himself a lead singer, and has sung lead most of his life. I told him that Joe, Frankie and I all sing leads, but we're not "lead singers." We're just guys who sing lead. There is a very different mind-set that "lead singers" have. They're itching to sing leads and when they aren't, too often they are thinking about how they would sing a song that someone else is leading (and of course, do it better.) The same perspective is true for me as a songwriter. I write songs, but don't think of myself as a singer-songwriter. I'm just a singer who writes some songs every once in awhile. That may be a subtle difference, but I think it is an honest description of my music.. where my gifts lie, and where they don't. It's why I could never do a songwriter's workshop where I give people advice on "how" to write a song.

Other than maybe "Don't make any quick moves or it will run and hide." :-)

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Leadfingers
Date: 05 Mar 06 - 02:56 PM

I often feel I get more pleasure 'backing' a good musician or singer than actually being the front man - Though I HAVE done that in the past !


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 05 Mar 06 - 08:58 PM

The books sounds great, Elmer: I'll have to track it down.

I dunno, Lead... I can go either way, lead or accompany. Does that me bi-musical? Singing harmony and playing accompaniment is a definite gift which not all people have. I don't think anyone can equal Ed Trickett as an accompanist who enriches other musicians. He's a fine harmony singer, too. And not all lead singers can sing harmony... something I've discovered (much to my surprise.)

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 06 Mar 06 - 10:25 AM

Alright, we didn't sit at the kitchen table... we sat at the table in our Great Room Saturday morning. To eat. We must have cast iron throats because we don't seem to have any trouble eating, and then singing. One of the previous members in our group was always caliming to have problems with his voice. It was always one thing. Or another. Sometimes it was that he had eaten something, sometimes it was because he drank cold water. Maybe that was all true. I got the feeling that it was a serious insecurity that he had singing in front of others, and that was what caused his voice to tighten up when he stepped up to a mic. I know that used to happen to me, back when I was concerned about my own safety singing in front of people.

That said, we had our usual full plate of food to choose from... sausage and peppers, Kentucky Fried Chicken, sour cream onion dip and chips, tossed salad, sliced peaches and a variety of cookies.
Ruth and I invited my dental hygenist and her husband over and there was an instant connection. That doesn't happen often. It's happened to me with our bass singer Joe, and some Catters... Art Thieme, before we were Catters, or there was a Mudcat, jimmyt, Ron Davies, Peace, ColK, Leadfingers and several others (so no one feels left out..) It's a good feeling. Like making an instant friend. The process is simple, but it doesn't usually work so immediately.

Making an Instant Friend is much like making Instant Mashed Potatoes. Instead of opening a box and adding water, you open the door to your home and add love.

It's always exciting when it works (Instant Friends, that is... Instant Mashed Potatoes are never exciting.) And then the music becomes energized and very special. That's what happened here Saturday morning.

One of these days, we're going to get jimmyt and his wife, and Bobert and Pea-Vine up here. Our door is always open... just let us know that you're coming... we'll put an extra plate setting or two on the table.

Wrote a song about a dog (Rosco) with that idea in mind...

"Set another bowl on the floor, Mildred
I think Rosco's got a friend."

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 06 Mar 06 - 11:57 AM

Good thread here, once again, Jerry...

But kitchen tables are where you find them...

We had none at home when I was growing up. The dining-room table sort of was it! Even that became a place to leave quickly and move on from---a place to get away from in order to get back to your real life. My father passed away when I was five, and I never had that anchor or guidance in my life. (Could that be why I'm not a Republican? ;-)

An aside: Male role models were ones I chose for myself---often mentors from afar that I've spoken of here in many a thread.

THE NO EXIT COFFEEHOUSE AND GALLERY in Chicago became my kitchen table in the sense that this thread implies I think. As I said in greater detail in the "Great Coffeehouses" and Clubs thread, it was a multi-faceted oasis for me where songs were shared and friendships were made and dissolved--- where loves were nurtured -- and also, sometimes sadly, and other times not very sadly, dissolved. It was a place where thoughts and positions and ideologies could be crystallized---and possibly shattered---much like being here at Mudcat now that I am more isolated from our music.

I played and shared my music and ideas there at the NO EXIT for thirty-seven years---because the place was my touchstone---my KITCHEN TABLE. Carol and I hung out there---and so did our son, Chris while he was growing up because that is where his dad made music. That space in Chicago is used very sporadicallynow by
Michael James, the new owner. His main restaurant is the "Heartland Cafe" down the street. The dark brown burlap walls, and the old graffiti are painted white now.-----It is peopled my "here and now" folks---and some fascinating ghosts to boot.

Chris lives near it now. A continuum of sorts I guess!

But Jerry Rasmussen's Kitchen Table in his "guest house" where he lived while heading up the Stamford (CT) Museum And Nature Center was one of many on-the-folkie-gigging-road kitchen tables for me. Those, of necessity, became the setting for numerous road life birthday parties, New Years celebrations, Christmas times, and other holiday gatherings. Thanksgivings galore...

Thanks to all of you who made that camaraderie possible!

Art Thieme


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 06 Mar 06 - 11:20 PM

About backing vs singing lead. I agree completely that it's at least as much fun to harmonize as to sing lead. It's a skill in itself to be able to throw in a harmony that fits the song without trampling on the melody--just being part of the musical texture is immensely satisfying--and I love to do it. Jan calls me a harmony slut--I'll sing with anybody who likes it--duets, trios, quartets, bigger groups.

And it's also what I try to do with the viola--just compliment the melody--which it seems is much easier to do with a low harmony than a high one--so the viola works well. It's great fun to try to guess where the melody is going if you've never heard it before. And you have to recognize if the melody is more complicated than you first thought--and to just listen til you know you really have it. But it is great fun--and amazingly well appreciated.

If somebody is singing a cappella the chances are he or she wants to be free to lengthen or shorten the notes and phrases in telling the story--and you have to wait for a chorus or refrain before putting in a harmony. At least that's what I've found--and I have to admit that, sure enough, in the verses if I'm leading the song, I like to be able to be free in phrasing. Unless of course the song is an anthem--like John Tams' Rolling Home for instance, where the driving rhythm is important, even though the song is unaccompanied.

It seems to me that either you need to know in advance how the person is going to sing the song or there needs to be a very steady rhythm, often from a guitar--otherwise making up a harmony is really hard--and may even detract from a song.

But there are certain rough-hewn genres where there's more give and take--like sea chanteys.

It seems there's a whole science of harmonizing.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 07 Mar 06 - 08:30 AM

Singing harmony... ahh.. there's a subject that's dear to my heart.

A few weeks ago, I was very excited about the chance to have a wonderful singer join the Gospel Messengers. Doug came with impeccable credentials, having sung most of his life with reknowned rhythm and blues groups, all the way back to the Five Satins, the Flamingos and the Coasters. My feel for harmony is just that... not based on formal training. I can read sheet music just passably, but I have always sung the harmony that I hear. The Male chorus that I've sung in for the last nine years sings from memory, not sheet music. When Doug came to our first practice, we were all excited at the prospect of learning more about harmony and we were very receptive. We quickly discovered that there's harmony, and there's harmony. And harmony, too. We sing in a very straightforward four part harmony. It's what we hear and what we love. Ironically, the first time Doug heard a CD of ours he said, "I thought you said you did old black gospel quartet stuff... this sounds like folk music." Was I proud, or what? Most of the older style black gospel quartet songs we do are done in straightforward four-part harmony. If that sounds like "folk music" it's because it is folk music. Doug's concept of harmony was much more modern and he tried to change our four part harmony to three part. It sounded great to him, but we didn't like it, and weren't comfortable with it.
I told him that we had gone from a trio singing three-part harmony to a quartet singing three-part harmony. That made absolutely no sense to us, and we parted ways very respectfully. We heard harmony radically differently. I ended up putting together a three page statement about what we seek in singing harmony, just to avoid repeating the same mistake with someone else.

Ya want to be a Messenger, Ron?

The workshop that I've done for many years, that I did a thread on here: The Gospel In Black And White has been a great revelation for me. It helped me to learn a lot about harmony. I can't say that I am really that much more knowledgeable I guess, and I still cannot express my understanding of harmony in formal terms, but I've become much more aware of how differently people hear harmony (and therefor sing it.)

I particularly enjoy singing harmony on a song that I've never heard before (singing very quietly until I'm sure that I know what I'm doing. If the melody and chord progression are fairly straightforward, I can anticipate where they're going and sing a fairly "safe" harmony.

When we had Colin Kemp, Leadfingers, Noreen, Theresa and Sussex Carole visiting us here at the house, we sang with the Messengers, alternating sea chanteys and old black gospel. It was great fun, and our harmonies worked well together.

If you ever make it to our kitchen table, I'll invite the Messengers over, and we'll have a fine time singing.

And eating.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 07 Mar 06 - 08:11 PM

Hey, Art:

Yes, kitchen tables can be anywhere. Funny that John Harford didn't write a song about "the kitchen tables of my mind." He coulda made a fortune and bin on tee vee. You understand what I'm talking about. It's the comfort of a friendship, or even a warm conversation with a total stranger. That can happen anywhere. I couldn't really write a nostalgic song about any kitchen table other than the one in the Gate House that we sat around many times when you came out this way. When I was growing up, we had a small kitchen and a small table covered with oil cloth. Remember oil cloth? Checkered oil cloth? I wonder whatever became of oil cloth. I bet the guy who invented it thought he'd be living in the lap of luxury until fashions cruely passed him by. We ate at our kitchen table. Very utilitarian. I actually have fonder memories of our dining room table, because we only ate there on holidays, when the whole family gathered together.

In my first marriage, our kitchen table was the water hole. My sons and I were gazelles cautiously approaching to get a drink, and my wife was a lioness hiding in the tall grass waiting to pounce on me to rip me to shreds when I sat down. I'm sure there's a song there, but it's not one that I want to write.

And then there were the years I lived alone in an apartment. Kitchen tables were never meant to be for one. They're too lonely.

Now my life is joyful, with a beautiful, loving wife to share the table with me.

That looks life four verses right there... nothing nostalgic... just real life. If my life is a song, I'm glad that it has such a beautiful last verse..

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ebbie
Date: 07 Mar 06 - 11:28 PM

Whew! Thanks for the chair. It's lovely to be back. I've been a busy woman this last week, having moved from a roomy house to a two-room plus bath apartment. I'm still working on settling in, approaching it without stress. I've put up shelves and am getting everything off the floor that I can. I tell people that whatever doesn't fit in is going out the door.

But today is the first day I've worked my way over to the computer. I still have paths threading their way around the heaps here but it is wonderful to sit at the computer and join you at the table.

I've been thinking about song making lately. On occasion I've written songs - maybe twenty of them in my life, with long dry spells - but the last few days I've been realizing how very many subjects there are to be written about. It's an endless list - and if one got to the end, it would be time to start over.

I think that my bemusement stems from my reaction to Tommy Sands' concert here the other day. The man is such a marvel and just being around him opens so many gates. He's been here twice before and the peace that surrounds him is sweeter each time.

I just finished his book 'The Songman', and I'll be passing that around to a number of friends. He arrived without enough copies of it for everyone so many people didn't get one. I was fortunate enough to wait out two different women who were reading in it at the sales table and decided against buying it. I kept my mouth shut and my mind from sending any energy into their decision.

But enough about me - time to let someone else speak!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 08 Mar 06 - 06:52 AM

Definitely.. pull up a chair, Ebbie. My wife and I were just talking about moving, this morning. Not planning to move... being thankful that we're done. We moved up here 5 years ago when we were in our mid and upper 60's and we did it by ourselves. Neither of us wanted to end up trapped in the city where we lived and I knew that there'd come a time in our lives when we just didn't have the strength to face a move. The three most stressful events in life according to Psychiatrists are the loss of a loved one, divorce and moving. We've been blessed with very good health (and still are,) and were able to do the move alone. There was a ton of work to do on the house... some needed, most desired. But we did it. As you know, getting the stuff in the house/apartment is just the beginning. Then the real work begins. We moved from a two bedroom co-op into a three bedroom house with almost twice the floor space, AND a garage. The downside of that was that there was no necessity of getting rid of anything. We still have a lot of stuff that my wife has probably kept for at least twenty years in boxes that haven't been sorted through.

This morning, our son is coming over and we're going to sand and refinish the living room, master bedroom and hallway. Life will be total chaos for three or four days, so I'm going to appreciate stopping here at the computer and plunking down in a chair here at the table. We may not even be able to find our actual kitchen table once we move all the furniture out of the two rooms..

But life is good..

Nice to see you, Ebbie..

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: leftydee
Date: 08 Mar 06 - 12:03 PM

Good luck with the floors, Jerry. It's not such a bad job but can get messy. Workin' around the house can be fun and rewarding.

I've been building myself a new workshop for the last couple of weeks and just need a minute or two to sit at the table and catch my breath. Ellen has been setting up a playroom in the basement for the grandkids too. It looks great and I'm sure the kids will have a ball.

I sure appreciated the music you sent. It's awfully nice to catch a new spark now and then. The Gospel in Black and White has become a favorite. I'm going to PM you for you address, I have some stuff I'd like to share with you too.

Bob


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 08 Mar 06 - 08:31 PM

Hey, Bob:

Stage one done... clearing out the furniture, carpet and various and sundries and covering and taping over everything else. Like most things that are worth doing, the preparation time is more consuming than actually "doing" the project. We're taking it a little easy on ourselves by doing it in two stages so by the weekend we'll have the first half done and be human again.

I bought the printer I need to print labels on CDs, and once we get through this project, I'll do the labels. I am painfully slow at deciphering computer stuff, so it may take awhile. But, I'll get there. As Uncle Dave Macon sang:

"I'd rather get to heaven in a Mitchell Wagon than to Hell in an automobile."

It's not how fast you get there. It's how good a time you have on the way.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: ranger1
Date: 09 Mar 06 - 09:06 AM

Hey Jerry! Just stopped by for a cup of coffee and to shoot the breeze. I'm loving this thread. I've had a chair wedged up in the corner and just been listening to the conversation flowing through.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: GUEST,Modest but proud
Date: 09 Mar 06 - 09:41 AM

As one of the pioneers of the invention of the cochlear implant over 35 years ago I am still astounded by the advancement of the art and science of the device.

Here is the story of one man's quest to again hear Ravel's Bolero although he had become totally deaf.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4737586

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4737586


I was moved to invent the cochlear device when I heard a deaf student play the guitar impeccably but like Beethoven he could not hear what he played.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 09 Mar 06 - 05:46 PM

Musicians are coming in the windows. It seems like no matter what I do, I run into musicians. The one thing in common is that they aren't making a living doing music.

This morning, my wife, son and I went down to Home Depot to rent a floor sander and get all the supplies for refinishing the floors. My son Pasha was listening to the music being piped into the store, and started playing "drums" on some cans, and the many who was waiting on us asked if he was a muscian. Pasha said thqat he used to play drums, but I am the musician. The started a long conversation (basically a monologue) about all the years the man who was waiting on us had been a musician. He's probably in his 60's, I'd guess and first got excited about music listening to rockabilly in the 50's. Then, when he heard James Brown, he got in to soul music. He plays electric bass and for many years was in an 8 piece soul band. Now, he plays bass in a country band. He's played with the Drifters and a few other "name" groups, and I told him I had a friend who'd been in the Flamingos and the Coasters, and have met Fred Paris, the lead singer of the Five Satins.

There is a basic fabvric of music that runs through this country. There are countless people who have had their lives enriched by music. Only a small handful of them have made enough money out of it to support themselves. And yet music remains an important part of their life. Not just us folkies.

Today, when we took a break from working on the floors, I told Pasha of a tape I made, and encouraged others to think about. It was a Soundtrack Of My Life tape. If someone made a movie of our lives (which is highly unlikely) what would I want on the soundtrack? What would you... that's a separate thread, but I could see Pasha getting in to it.

I know that Poppa's Got A Brand New Bag would on his soundtrack... :-)

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 10 Mar 06 - 05:49 AM

I think if you played the bass line or that guitar bit on Papa's got a Brand New Bag - you should be awarded a pension for life for services to humanity for making us all happy at some time or other.

a bit like the poet laureate


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 10 Mar 06 - 06:35 AM

I don't know how many of you have seen Standing In The Shadows Of Motown, about the musicians who were on all those great Motown hits, but it is fascinating. How good are they? Even Elvis Costello can't completely destroy their music. As an aside, what's with Elvis Costello? I can't think of anyone (other than perhaps John Davidson) who made such a long career out of such limited talent.)

I'dd add to Wee Little's Pantheon of Unforgetttable musical lines the opening to My Girl. That stops me dead in my tracks whenever I hear it, and it sounds as fresh today as it did the first time that I heard it. And then, you'd have to add several signature lines of Keith Richard's...

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Bobert
Date: 10 Mar 06 - 08:12 AM

Well, as per usual I am loving every word of this thread...

You see, the P-Vine and I are going into our 8th month here in Pine Grove holler and we are just at that point in the redo of this farm house where we can evn discuss the luxary of having a "real table" back in our lives as the end is now in sight...

But we've been makin' do with a old table that she has owned forever that used to sit in the living room by the front door and had the important function of being the place where car keys were thrown...

...but it has been in service since the move and has been our office at times, a work table at times and the table where we had Christmas dinner with old man Clifford who lives here in the holler and ain't got nobody to look mush after him...

And it's where the lady who came to sell us carpet broke down and told us about arelationship which had soured and we found oursleves not only buying the higher priced carpet but playing mom and dad...

I wish I could say that I wrote a great epic or song at this table but I haven't but I did do the inside art work for my new CD on that table so, hey, maybe one day I'll write that epic or song about our experiences over the last 8 months...

But one this is for sure. Jerry is right. A kitchen table can be anywhere...

sniff...

Bobert


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: SINSULL
Date: 10 Mar 06 - 09:04 AM

Everytime I see the title to this thread I remember Orson Welles' brilliant use of the kitchen table in "Citizen Kane". The newlyweds move farther and farther apart as their marriage fails. Then there is James Cagney mushing a grapefruit into some blond's face - ah yes... the kitchen table.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 10 Mar 06 - 09:14 AM

And in the movie Avalon, the family slowly disintegrates through time as they move from having dinner and conversation at the kitchen table, to watching television while they are eating, to moving into the living room to watch television while they eat.

And how can I ever forget that classic howl of disbelief.. "You CUT the TOIKEY!"

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 10 Mar 06 - 11:56 AM

And Modest But Proud: Hearing is a terrible thing to lose. So, good on you! My Aunt was almost completely deaf the last few months of her life (she died when she was 97) and it was heartbreaking not only for her, but for my Mother. They were the two remaining siblings from 8, and were living in the same retirement complex. What initially was a beautiful situation, where my Mother could visit her sister every day became an enormous frustration. My Aunt could no longer hear my Mother, and I'm not sure who was most frustrated. Even though they lived in the same complex, they weren't able to communicate. For many years, they'd spoken to each other over the phone every day. What a loss it was. My Aunt would have required surgery to regain her hearing, and she was just killing time until her kidneys finally gave out on her and she was gone.

I've noticed as I get older that people speak more softly. It's an irritation and a bother. Why don't people speak up like they did when I was younger?

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 10 Mar 06 - 02:48 PM

Hey modest..I worked with Ben Clopton and Joe Miller at U.Washington in the cochlear implant lab. Late 70s. I am always amazed to hear the stories. mg


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 10 Mar 06 - 11:49 PM

Jerry-- sorry I didn't answer before--sure, I'd love to be a Messenger. I sure try to get into the swing of it when my group (about 180) does gospel. We mostly do pretty heavy stuff--Mozart Requiem, Brahms Requiem, Bach St. Matthew Passion etc. And I love that--my all-time favorite piece of any genre is the Brahms Requiem, partly because Brahms made it an inclusive as possible (not specifically Christian), and emphasizes the consoling aspects, no Hell and damnation--- and also because it's just wonderful music. And since I speak German, I can understand what we're singing.

But when we do gospel, I try to get out of the printed score as fast as I can--so you get into the spirit of the music. My group does a good job on Deep River--with a huge dynamic range, and bringing out the melody while letting the other parts just stay in the background. But in livelier pieces the group just finds it agony to swing--Jan says she's embarrassed at watching all the stiff choral singers. And some just never get into it at all--they're fish out of water and stand there frowning while they sing-- and waiting for it to be over. But I sing and sway and grin--I love it--especially songs like Witness, Elijah Rock, and Ain'a That Good News?--the really lively ones. Of course I also get into it physically when we sing the classical pieces too.   But it's a shame to be narrow in music--among other things you deny yourself so much pleasure.

When we sing for the Martin Luther King celebration every year, we always sing with black groups and under black conductors. Gospel singing is sure totally different from what we're used to-- last time the conductor had a whole repertoire of gestures which told the singers where to go back to in the music--lots of repeats of phrases from various parts of the music--just until the director felt moved to go on, regardless of what was in the printed music--building the excitement.   You had to keep your eyes glued on the conductor, not the music at all--you had to have the music virtually memorized, even though we only had 2 rehearsals on it. Fantastic experience.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 11 Mar 06 - 07:51 AM

Hi,Ron:

An anecdote:

When I first joined the Men's Chorus at the church where my wife and I are members, I was very excited about the prospect of singing with the guys. They sang with great power and freedom, not singing from sheet music. I'd never had any desire to sing in a choir, because I am not musically trained and am barely, barely adequate reading music. Our Chorus Director teaches us new songs, starting with the second tenors who sing the melody, then teaching the baritones, first tenors and bass their harmonies by ear. When it was time for the baritones to learn their harmony, we all stood up and I was quickly into the rhythm of the music. It just felt great to be able to move freely while we were singing. When the baritones had practiced their part, it was time for the first tenors to learn their harmony. I remained standing and was very much into moving with the music, even though we weren't singing yet. Bill, (the only person I knew by name) said to me, "You can stop moving now, we're not singing," and I answered "I waited all my life to be able to move to the music while I'm singing, and I'm not going to stop now!"

I told this story to a group of 1st to 3rd grade girls in a private school where we were singing, and one of the kids raised her hand and asked "Why did it take you so long?" My wife and I and all the teachers really cracked up at the question. It was a logical question, and I wasn't really sure of the answer.

Back in the early 60's when I first started performing regularly, I performed sitting down. It was the way a lof of singers did it. I took lessons from Dave Van Ronk, and he performed sitting down, so it seemed logical to me to do the same thing. But Tom Paxton, Phil Ochs, Peter LaFarge and many others performed standing up. As time went by, I started performing standing up, and discovered that I liked it a lot because I could move more freely with the music. When I've performed folk music in recent years, I've gone back to performing sitting down. Most of the performers I booked over the years performed that way. Bluegrass bands always perform standing up... as much as anything, because they move back and forth from the mic to do harmonies. And, it would be awkward playing stand-up bass, sitting down. Choirs always perform standing up, and I can't imagine singing black gospel music sitting down. I can sing the old white southern gospel sitting down just fine, but not black gospel.
I suppose I could start a thread (there probably already is one) on whether people perform sitting or standing and why, but those threads always seem to turn out to be one or two sentence responses, without a lot of coversation. This is a kitchen table thread, so we can talk about anything, and have a conversation not just do a survey.

But if it's black gospel, I gotta mooooovvvvveeeee.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: billybob
Date: 11 Mar 06 - 11:13 AM

I love this thread, I have been listening in and enjoying.Made me remember our kitchen table at Grandma's when we were little. My cousin and I would sit under the table and listen to the grown ups talk.We used to love to hear the stories of Gran and her sisters.Grandma was apprenticed to a court dressmaker in London, for the first few years she had to unstich the ruffles at the hem of the dresses and replace with new ones, imagine the filth where the dresses dragged in the mud!She had to walk miles to and fro to work, her sisters all went into "service" as maids.Aunt Lillioe never married as her young man died in France in the first world war, how I wish we had had tape recorders then as I am sure I have forgotten more than I remember. Sometimes the chat became "not suitable for the children" and we would be sent out to the garden for fresh air, but often we were lucky and they would forget we were there.
There was always wonderful smells from the stove, cakes, bread and Lamb stew.We were taught to sew and cross stitch. Lovely memories.I guess that is where I heard my first folk songs as the sisters would sing together in front of the fire in the afternoons.
Years later when I first met my sisters in law in Pennsauken N J we would sit round mother's table in her kitchen, drinking coffee and eating danish pastries.So the kitchen table is the heart of the home where ever we are.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 07:31 AM

Billybob-

Those are great stories about your Grandma and later your sisters in law. I grew up (first 13 years) in NJ--mostly in Moorestown, but also in Pennsauken (so I know exactly where that is.) New Jersey gets a bad rap from people who only see the NJ Turnpike, or associate it with the Mob (thanks to Atlantic City, I suppose). Most people, it seems, have never heard of the Pine Barrens--where in one of the most, if not the most, densely populated states in the Union it is possible to get lost in the wilderness.

I've also read that another reason NJ gets to be the butt of jokes all the time is that for a very long time there was no TV station based in NJ--so both the New York and Philadelphia TV comedians had a field day ridiculing NJ. (Of course, what we used to call Chemical Alley (in north NJ) didn't help--it really did reek up there.) But that was not the whole state by a long shot.


When I was growing up in Moorestown-- ( which, recently, according to, I believe it's Money magazine, was rated by their staff the best town in the whole country)--there was an author of books for early adoloscents named Stephen W Meader. I absolutely loved his books--and devoured them (and others) ferociously and voraciously. The book I most still remember was called Shadow In the Pines. It had to do with an amazing assortment of characters in the Pine Barrens, including a ring of Nazi spies and some birders. I used to take books with me to Sunday school class and read them while everybody else was talking about the assigned (religious) readings. (I had read the books we were suppposed to read for Sunday school long since--usually read the assigned book in the first week--while it was supposed to last the whole year.

Anyway, Shadow in the Pines had to do with a boy who stumbled across a cabin in the Pine Barrens where he found both the Nazis and a copy of Audubon's Elephant Folio--which I'm sure you know was a very valuable and stunningly beautiful huge book of Audubon paintings of US birds. But what really struck me was the graves and especially the diary the boy also found--which documented how the family who ran the iron foundry which used to be there died out. The diary talked about how competition from Pennsylvania foundries was ruining the business and later how each one of the family was dying of (smallpox, I think it was) there in the wilderness until even the diary writer himself--in mid passage-- succumbed. The boy also found graves with gravestones with language like "Sayfe from this sadd Worlde's alarms/ Resteth in his Mayker's Arms. As an 11-year old, I was stunned.

For me, at least, NJ will always be far more about Moorestown and the Pine Barrens than about the NJ Turnpike.


Jerry-- that's a great story about your being moved by music.   I'm with you.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 09:23 AM

Hey Ron: Is there really a Moorestown, and a Morristown too? I served one year's apprenticeship at the Newark Museum in the early 60's, and spent several months developing an exhibit on Thomas Edison. That gave me an opportunity to travel around the state, collecting objects and photographs for the exhibition. New Jersey is a very beautiful state (forget the Jersey Turnpike, i'ts really part of New York City.) I must admit that one time when I had my sons in the car heading down the Jersey Turnpike when a sudden gusty rainstorm blew up. It put all that fine red clay swirling into the air, where it mixed with the rain, and it was actually raining red mud. My sons thought that it was the most hilarious thing they'd ever witnessed. That aside, I really loved the countryside in New Jersey.

When I finished by year at the Newark Museum, I was offered a job at three Museums. One was the museum in Morristown, New Jersey. It was tempting, because the town is very beautiful. I was also offered a job at the Boston Children's Museum, which would have given me the opportunity to work for Mike Spock, but the position wouldn't be opening up for a couple of months and I was out of work and had gotten into the habit of eating. I ended up taking a position at the Stamford Museum and Nature Center in Connecticut, and as it turned out, I believe I made the right decision.

Occasionally, I get things right.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 09:50 AM

Yup, Jerry, both a Morristown and a Moorestown in NJ. People always assume I mean Morristown--where Washington slept--but we only had Hessians. One of the town's few claims to fame was the house on Main St. with the plaque "Hessians wintered here 1777-78". Moorestown was founded by Quakers, including Mr, Moore. I lived close to the water towers, which you could see from far away.

A wonderful place to grow up--I even had the chance to hear the Philadelphia Orchestra and visit the Franklin Institute, including wandering through the pumping heart-- since we were relatively close to Philadelphia. But Moorestown was still a small town where a kid coin collector could exchange 5 rolls of nickels for 2 rolls of dimes, you could go see the ducks on Strawbridge Lake, get fresh corn at Flying Feather Farm after church, go back in the tall grass and watch birds--and as I said we had that famous author of adolescents' books. I was not at all happy to move at age 13--and to Maryland, a state named after a girl! When we moved I was determined to be miserably unhappy--and was gloriously successful in that endeavor.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 02:06 PM

Hey, Ron:

Sounds a lot like my experience growing up in a small town in Wisconsin. Except we didn't have the Philadelphia Orchestra within driving distance. Not that it mattered, as we didn't own a car. The biggest thing we had nearby was in Milwaukee, where Whoopee John Willfahrt was king of the polka. Honest. You can look it up.

Every small town has its claims to fame... small though they may be. Mine had Carrie Jacobs Bond who wrote I Love You Truly... for many years the most commonly sung song at weddings. The Gideon Society got it's start in my hometown, too. I didn't discover that until many years after I left home when I wrote a song that mentioned the grandest hotel in town and in reading about its history found out that the first meeting of the Gideon Society was held there.

And then, Kerwin Matthews, who starred in The 7th Voyage Of Sinbad and Gulliver's Travels was a classmate of my older sister... or at least was in High School when she was.

The nice thing about small towns is that there is that tall grass and open country within walking distance. If you walk down to the railroad tracks,

"All you have to do is to walk those tracks
And they're bound to lead you to the country
Lie on your back in the tall, sweet grass
Or you can take your dog and go hunting:

Milwaukee/St. Paul

I wasn't much into hunting.. and had a bad accident when I first started hunting with my Father... accidently shot my dog. I never liked fishing either.. turned out I was a naturalist, and didn't know it yet. I preferred watching to killing.

Been talking to my wife Ruth, and she's enthusiastic about coming down to the Getaway this year on the way to visit my son, his wife and their two kids in North Carolina. If we make it, I may just decide to strap our kitchen table to the top of our car and bring it with me..

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Naemanson
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 03:06 PM

I wish I had time to read down through this whole thread. I think you've struck a chord with the kitchen table. It certainly was that way in my parents' home and still is. The living room is for TV, the den is for reading, the music room... well, you get the idea. But all my memories of talk, from common gossip to world philosophy, center around the table in that kitchen. Dining rooms are a waste of space. Just set a table in the kitchen and solve all the problems in the world.

I had a friend I met at the break up of a relationship. She had just had her heart broken too. We became very close friends and spent many hours drinking tea and talking at kitchen tables, hers and mine, for many years. I married in December 04 and am very happy now. She is marrying this coming June and is also very happy. I hope to see her marry and see her as happy as we dreamed of around those tables.

Hey Jerry, aren't you in Connecticut? Can I swing by and visit in June?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 06:21 PM

Yes, Naemanson: I live in Derby... just west of New Haven on Rte. 34. We'd be glad to have you stop by... we'll be in Wisconsin (hopefully) for my Mother's 99th birthday in early June... her birthday is on the 5th, and we usually go out for 7 or 8 days with her birthday somewhere in the middle.

I'll PM our telephone number to you...

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Naemanson
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 08:07 PM

Excellant, I have friend in Easton I plan to visit also. I'm looking forward to it. We'll consolidate plans as the date draws near.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 08:51 PM

We should be done finishing the floors by then.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ebbie
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 10:07 PM

Jerry, I was listening in - did I hear you say that you and Ruth might come to the Getaway this year?? Hip Hip!! Come primed to sing- I want to hear you.

Speaking again of kitchen tables, mine was utilized today. There was a really sad incident early this morning: a historic church and attendant community hall down the hill burnt to rubble. This is where our new (7 months old) folk club was born and nurtured and also where I went to work as secretary a few months ago- and now it's gone. Practically everybody in town has a history with the community hall- we've played for dances there, we gathered for concerts and slide shows and live theatre and dinners and breakfasts and just about everything- and now it's gone. There's a lot of sadness in town.

Anyway, later this morning one of our folk club co-founders who is a member of the church that burnt came to my door and we sat at the kitchen table and drank tea and commiserated. No one knows what will happen next. Except that I know I won't be going to work tomorrow!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 10:35 PM

Yes, Ebbie:

As things stand, Ruth and I are planning to catch at least one day of the Getaway in the fall. It would be a real pleasure to see so many friends I've never met before. You included. I imagine I could sing a song or two..

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 10:37 PM

... and I am really sorry to hear about the loss of the church and community center. I know how devastating that can be to a town. It's not just the building that's lost... it's all the good memories. They will live on, but it's different when the place where people lived them is taken away.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 10:46 PM

Oh, and Naemanson: I had several conversations with a woman-friend I came to know many years ago on the same topics... lost love, and the wonder if love was ever to be in our individual futures. She had never been more than a friend. At the time, it seemed very distant and unattainable. But then, nine years ago I met Ruth and we've had almost 8 years of the most beautiful life imagineable together. My woman-friend? I heard from her a few months ago, out of the clear blue. She was doing an album of songs of faith and wanted to record a song I'd written many years ago. She met a wonderful man and after talking with the two of them, they sound as happy (almost) as my wife and me. She recorded the song and did a wonderful job on it... made it completely new for me.

A few years ago, she recorded another song I'd written that was kicking around on a tape I'd shared with her about the Screen Porch Door that graced our front porch when I was growing up. But that's another story. Screen Porch Doors aren't the heart of the house. Perhaps they are the eyes, because they've seen the history of our lives.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Phot
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 04:05 AM

Hi guys, just passing by, and thought I'd stick my head round the door. Judging by the description, you guys seem to live in one of the nicest bits of the US. When I get home, Pixie and I are going down to Devon to visit my Mum and Dad, they have a 300 year old thatched cottage with a lovley garden, and a stream running at the side of it, its beautiful in the summer, and a great place to relax, sing and play. Ask Cllr about the time we made the valley ring, literally! Well time to get back to work, have fun.

Wassail!! Chris


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Naemanson
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 04:25 AM

Well, THEY live in a nice part of the country. I have to live in a tropical paradise on an island in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. The trade winds rattle the palm trees making it too noisy to sleep and the waves pound incessantly on the reef outside the lagoon. Nice sunsets, though.

Snow is more of a concept here, not a reality, and a cold day is when you roll down the windows and turn off the AC.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 05:31 AM

I wonder if you're right about every town having a claim to fame. I think, all my life, I have dwelled in places of total obscurity.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: David C. Carter
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 06:29 AM

Hi there Jerri and everybody,missed the Kitchen Table Sunday.Had a late night Saturday,or more like an early Sunday morning, before we got home.Nice to see this "Kitchen Table" still going strong.The Lady and I are off to Germany end of this month,a 7hr drive from here.Talking of moving around,if any of you guys are my way sometime,we don't have much room, but you're very welcome to come and share it.
Take care

David


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 06:39 AM

Hey, Phot: When you're in Devon, swing up this way to Derby and stop in for a cuppa. We're about a fifteen minute drive from Devon. Devon, Connecticut. :-)

As long as people enjoy stopping in and shooting the breeze on this thread, I'll keep it going. When times are quiet, I'll just sit here for a minute, myself.

I'll keep the kettle on.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: David C. Carter
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 06:52 AM

Jerry: Spelled your name Wrong.I Prostrate myself before you.How Can I get some of your music?

Divad


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 07:08 AM

Thas awright, David: There is a Jerri in here who is a female type, and I always find it humorous how much alike we think on so many things.

I'll send you a PM about my music.... I have two CDs out on Folk-Legacy and am just finalizing a re-issue of Handful of Songs on CD. I have two other CDs I'm just finalizing... one made from cassettes of my own (and traditional stuff) and one of my black gospel quartet.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: David C. Carter
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 07:26 AM

Thanks:I don't think I could find Folk-Legacy, along with a lot of other music which is hard to find here.Wish I could,because I like to trawl the out of the way record stores,you never know what you might find.OK,I'll look out for your PM.
Cheers
David


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: ranger1
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 09:43 AM

Hey Jerry! It'd be great if you came to the Getaway! It would be wonderful to meet you and Ruth.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 10:12 AM

Unless something comes up, we intend to be there for at least one day. Ruth and I are both enthusiastic about coming...

Jerry and Ruth


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Leadfingers
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 12:47 PM

Jerry - IF you and Ruth are Gettawaying , thats another good reason to risk personal bankruptcy to get over again !


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Charley Noble
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 04:01 PM

We had an old black walnut round table with a couple of leaves inserted that stretched it out into an oval, back when I was growing up on the farm in Maine.

The kitchen itself was farm command central, with seven doors, each providing access to a different domain. There was the door to the living room, the door up the back-stairs, the door down to the cellar depths, the backyard door, the pantry door, the backroom door and the door out into the front barnyard. There were times when things got quite busy in the kitchen with all the possible comings and goings of people, pets and vermin.

The door frames were interesting as well. Either the center of the house was moving up or the walls were sinking down, or maybe both were happening silultaneously. There used to be an old coal stove on one side of the room that the dogs slept behind, and a dry sink with a hand pump at one end against the back wall. There was also a mural of "Sweet Betsy from Pike" on the back wall, including the shanghai rooster and the spotted hog. No wall was safe from Mother! She also had painted a pair of small oval murals on the wall above the kitchen table between the windows, one of Molly Malone wheeling her famous cart and another with a shapely mermaid a-sitting on a buoy.

When my brother and I were younger there was no electricity. There were oil lamps for lighting, a real icebox that my parents cut ice for, and a battery operated radio that we loved to listen to for country music and radio drama. My parents also had some good friends who would come over for singing folk songs, and who would also consume huge quantities of food, hard liquor and beer. Some of the more interesting songs we only learned late at night by listening carefully from the head of the stairs. The acoustics were quite good up the stair well!

The farm kitchen is still a comfortable place where Mother in her late 80's is still holding court. The doorframes look even more weird but she's had the ceiling recently re-painted and is planning to resurface the floor. I stop by there once or twice a week to do some chores and swap gossip about various projects. She still enjoys the old songs.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 04:19 PM

WOnderful remembrances, Charley:

I have many rememberances of my Uncle Ross and Aunt Ruth's farm house. And my Uncle Jim and Aunt Glady's, also. When we went to visit my Uncle Ross and Aunt Ruth, the highpoint would be coming into that kitchen in the evening after all the chores were done. The kitchen was blindingly bright, with just a bare light bulb exposed in the center of the ceiling. I loved the light in there and tried unsuccessfuly to get my Mother to agree to have a bare light bulb in each ceiling in our house. Aunt Ruth always seemed to have a batch of freshly made mollasses cookies and home-made ice cream waiting for us.

I ended up putting many of those memories into a song titled Uncle Jim. It was a composite of memories of both of my Uncles, and even some of my Dad.

"Old Uncle Jim he sits, sits in his chair he sits
Reading Reader's Digest for the 14th time
Puffing on a bowl of old Prince Albert
And sipping on some elderberry wine"

Later when I grew up, I made my own elderberry wine, and smoked Prince Albert for a long time...

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Charley Noble
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 05:32 PM

Jerry-

Yes, even Prince Albert in his can! Father smoked a pipe for years and when he finally gave it up at the age of 60 my brother and I were pissed because we no longer knew what to get him for a birthday present.

Well, it was good that he gave up smoking the pipe – in the long-run it meant having him around for another 48 years.

We always had a patch of elderberries growing out back. Since the backyard door been converted into more kitchen shelving, it's been a little more difficult to interact with them.

We also made dandylion wine!

I don't suppose you have a story about how someone set the pressure cooker going on the stove, left the room to do an errand, only to hear a tremendous explosion from the kitchen. Not a good thing when one is processing canned tomatoes. The murals never looked quite the same. Maybe that helps explain why Mother finally painted over them.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 05:39 PM

Yeah, Charlie: We had elderberry bushes growing all down the length of our driveway. I enjoyed just picking them and eating them. Back in the days when I made about every imagineable kind of wine, elderberry was my favorite. I made danedlion wine too... din't like it much thought. Maybe it was looking at the occasional ant that I missed when I was sorting out the dandelions. What a way to go... drowned in alcohol.

Pressure cookers were dangerous. We had the top blow off ours once, but at least the pot wasn't filled with tomatoes..

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 10:18 PM

Late this afternoon when we were done staining and painting for the day, I spent some time diligently cleaning paint brushes. Not the most exciting thing to start a thread about, mind you. But as I was cleaning them, I realized that is was my Father who taught me the importance of taking care of brushes and tools.

When I was a kid, my Father and I were at loggerheads most of the time. I didn't turn out at all like he wanted me to, and we seemed to disagree on everything. I seemed to spend most of my days trying to be the exact opposite of my Father. For a long time, I couldn't see that he had taught me anything. (And puhleeeesssss, can we not have anymore stupid books titled "Everything I Needed To Know I Learned from Our Garbage Disposal.") It's only been in recent years that I've come to realize how much my Father taught me, despite my deepest conviction that he didn't know anything worth learning. Kinda like the old saying, "The older I get, the smarter my parents are." It makes me wonder what my sons have learned from me. Maybe not all of the stuff that I harped on all the time. One thing that makes me laugh is that my oldest son Gideon learned the value of the phrase "We'll see." When his kids ask him if they can do something, he answers, "We'll see." They hate it as much as he did when I'd say it to him when he was a kid. Kids hold you to promises, not matter how impossible they turn out to be. Promise that you're going to take them to a movie and if you're in a car accident and have both arms and legs broken and don't take them, they'll cry, "But Dad, you PROMISED!" The trick is to say "well see." Now that my Grandkids know that their Father learned that from me, I've been diminished somewhat in their eyes... :-)

You never know what your kids are going to learn from you. Sometimes it's hard to realize how much you absorbed from your parents. Even if you tried your hardest not to listen to them.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Naemanson
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 04:48 AM

My earliest memories of the kitchen table actually take place in the other room. As a child I sat in there, bored, while the adults talked long into the night. As I sat there the talk would slowly fade and become muffled, the noises getting farther and farter away until, to my complete surprise my parents would wake me to put on my coat and go home. It usually disgusted me that getting out the door seemed to take forever and more than once I groused that they could have let me sleep for another hour.

My children have learned from me. I know I was a disappointment to my father but he seems to have gotten over it now. I learned a lot from him, some of which I had to unlearn to live happily in this modern age. My father could give lessons to Luddites.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Charley Noble
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 08:51 AM

The other kitchen table I fondly remember is an extended octagon-shaped one that I put together for Rivendell Housing Co-op back in the mid-1970's when I was living in Lansing, Michigan. There were seven of us who had formed this co-op, we actually purchased the building with a joint downpayment and some incorporation documents, all friends who played folk music or at least loved the songs. The existing utilitarian Formica table just didn't cut it.

I wasn't skilled enough at that point to make an oval-shaped table and not experienced enough to realize how difficult an octagon table would be. However, it was easy to draw up the plans. And it was totally nomadic! Although I don't think anyone has ever moved it. The legs were attached to the top rails with dove-tailed joints, and the rails attached to the table top (a box-like structure underneath) with large dowels. The top surface was oak veneer, with solid maple routed molding, and the legs were solid maple. With this type of carpentry you get one chance to do it right, and I lucked out.

The damn thing actually got put together and has worked perfectly for over 30 years. However, I doubt if the present generation of Rivendwellers has a clue about the table's origin. The housing co-op still functions, remarkably after several complete turnovers, with some of its members still working at Elderly Instruments. Every year they send me a Thanksmas card (our reunion special event between Thanksgiving and Christmas) and I occasionally send them tidbits about the early house history.

One of our "house rules" was having at least dinner together and much of the stress of sharing a house with 6 other creative people was eased by our dinner conversations, far better than our more structured monthly house meetings. We were also very good about sharing the cooking and clean-up responsibilities with regard to the kitchen. That kitchen was cleaner than any place I ever lived in prior or since! Maybe that had to do with the large chore matrix taped to the nearby refrigerator door. The kitchen table was also a safe place to hang out with a few housemates late at night, although one did have to take care not to disturb the occupants of the three adjacent bedrooms; that kitchen had only 6 doors, unlike our old farm kitchen!

Some of my fondest memories were lazy breakfasts with performers who stayed at our house after their gigs at the 10-Pound Fiddle. We would load them up with strong coffee, omelets and toast, or homemade granola, and send them back out on the road to fame and fortune. If there had been a late-night after-the-concert party, and there were many of those, the breakfast was more likely to be a brunch. But, you're right, one learns a lot more about performers (and other folks) by sharing food and conversation around such a table.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: billybob
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 03:31 PM

Hi Ron, been away from this table for a few days, Billy and I have just watched a wonderful TV programme with kathryn Tickell and Alistair Anderson, we do not often get folk music on English TV, but this was great,then I thought I would come back to the table and catch up. Billy was brought up in Pennsauken and came to the UK in the 60s with the US airforce.He remembers the Pine Barrens, broke down there in his car with sister Connie en route to the Jersey shore. He also remembers the pumping heart on a 5th grade school trip.
My favourite part of NJ has to be Cape May and an early breakfast at the Mad Batter. Later that day we watched the World Clam Throwing Championship.returning to the Essex coast in England and to the annual Folk Festival we were running we held the world Whelk Throwing Championship but it did not live up to Cape May( great fun though)
We are trying to trace our family trees, I have got back to 1723, wish I had paid more attention to Grandma at her table as it has been hard work and I have missed out on all the anecdotes that I listened too but did not retain. We do not have much information about Billy's family. their name is French in origin but we do not know when they emigrated to the USA.His aunt, now 87, tells us her grandfather was Frederick Simon the Pennsauken iceman, he delivered ice by horse and cart in the summer and in the winter by Horse and sleigh.( he also did weddings taking brides to and fro from church in the sleigh)He was approached by Fridgeadair to go into a partnership but did not think it would take off!! Oh well!
I love this thread it has brought back many memories and quite a few phonecalls to my cousins to see what they remember of our grandma.One cousin recalled that Grandma's house was hit by a V2 during World War 2 and the rescuers dug her out of the ruins, she had been hiding under the kitchen table!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 05:53 PM

Maybe everyone was born at the end of an era. The pre-me era.

Reading some of these threads, I hear the last rumblings of an age now gone. I was born at the end of a lot of things that were commonplace when I was a kid... ice boxes and ice wagons, milk delivery, mail delivered twice a day, the circus coming to town on the train and parading down Main Street, barefoot summers with no television... All of that is so familiar to me, and yet it sounds like something out of an old movie to my sons. I guess my life is an old movie.

A friend of mine, Eric Garrison has slowly evolved as a songwriter. Eric is probably about 15 years younger than me. At first his songs were about love (found, lost, misplaced..) But through time, he started writing songs about when he was growing up. I found it very interesting to see his perspective and hear his life through his songs because even though he talked about hearing the Beatles as a little kid, his experiences sounded much like my own, growing up. We just had a different soundtrack. He can talk about the first time he heard I Want To Hold Your Hand. I can remember the first time I heard Earth Angel. Small town life is small town life is small town life. Admittedly, most small towns are dealing with drug dealing and occasional violent crime. But I look at the kids in our neighborhood here in Derby and their life doesn't look that different than mine was. I walked the neighborhood in the winter asking people if I could shovel their sidewalk, and kids are still doing that around here. They go sledding over by the reservoir and shoot baskets in their driveways. Their language may be saltier than mine was, but not all kids talk like the most foul-mouthed rappers and hip-hoppers. Life hasn't gone to Hell in a handbasket yet. Even if nobody knows what a handbasket is, any more...

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Charley Noble
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 08:51 PM

Jerry-

We usually used a couple of big wash baskets, rather than a handbasket, when we were getting serious about working at the kitchen table. The washbaskets were full of peapods, or some such vegetable, and those assembled were responsible for shelling them pods and extracting the peas, generally for freezing but a few were popped into mouths. This was always a good time to sing sings as well, everything from the latest country western hit to old music halls songs, teerjerkers from the 1890's, calypso songs, and a few old ballads. We never came up with a shelling shanty, or created our own songs. But we sure did a lot of singing while we worked. The wash baskets were made out of woven wood, not plastic, and they're still in use for Mother's laundry.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: GUEST,Jim
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 12:28 PM

Great thread!

Al Kirby and I (Kirby & Yates) released a CD last year called SITTIN' IN THE KITCHEN. The cover photo was taken in a pioneer kitchen at Lang Pioneer Village, near Keene Ontario where we play a regular gig. The title song was written by one of my favourite Canadian singer/songwriters, Bob Snider. I don't think it's been mentioned in this thread yet, but it should be:

SITTION' IN THE KITCHEN       by Bob Snider

Sittin in the kitchen is my favorite thing to do
I said, Sittin in the kitchen is my favorite thing to do
Well you can dine at the ritz
you can lie on the beach
but I like everything right in reach
I said, Sittin in the kitchen thats what I like to do

Sittin in the kitchen is my favorite place to be
lookin out the window, admiring the scenery
you got a smoke stack here, ventlator there
television areals every where else
Sittin in the kitchen is my favorite where I like to be

my little kitchen has every thing I re-quire
its got a pot and a stove, and a light bulb hangin on a wire
I got meat balls simmerin, the lights on low
cause I got myself a dimmer and an even glow
I said, Sittin in the kitchen, you can¹t beat that for nothin

I usta have a room full of chickens come home to roost
I never have to go far to cook my goose
Well I¹d stay there till the cows come too
but if they look in the refridgerator they¹ll beat me black an blue
I said, Sittin in the kitchen thats what I like to do

I thought of going out once but I threw a party instead
we had dancing in the livin room , coats all on the bed
well the radio played the music and I played the host
long as I didn¹t have to leave the place like most
Sittin in the kitchen thats where I was all night long

there was a time when I roamed this land
it was pillar to post,Paul to Peter and hand to hand
it was rain, sleet & snow in ferenheight & celcius
I didn't have a kitchen so I used sombody else-cious
Well, Sittin in the kitchen I never get tired of that

Well I was sittin in the kitchen wailin' on the old guitar
I¹m thinkin of becoming the worlds most famous rock n roll star
well I 'd give it a shot, draw lose or win
but I dont think I can fit everybody in
cause sittin in the kitchenm is the only place I'd want to do somethin like that

Well Sittin in the kitchen all I want on my plate is chow
I 'm wishin I was Sittin in my kitchen right about now
I'll pick up a pizza from a joint up the street
cause I hate to cook but I love to eat
Sittin in the kitchen is my favorite thing
I can even hear the telephone ring ..sometimes
Sittin in the kitchen is my favorite thing to do
Sittin in the kitchen is my favorite thing to do

mrtom@bigfoot.com

I just googled the words to save myself the bother of typing them out again, so they're not exactly how I (or Bob Snider) sings 'em, but you get the idea.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 01:19 PM

Thanks for contributing that song, Jim:

It captures the special feeling of a kitchen real well. Whatever the view is out the kitchen window, it works fine. I particularly enjoy looking out onto trees, shrubs and flowes just to watch the wildlife... but city scapes work, too. Somehow, even a brick wall four feet away seems "right."

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Naemanson
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 07:01 PM

Speaking of views out of kitchen windows... Our table (here in Guam) sits next to the window looking at the back yard. There is a high bank about twenty feet out. The jungle stops at the top of the bank. My wife once dedicated herself to cutting back that jungle and was pretty successful for a time. Now the wild chickens, or should I say feral chickens, spend a lot of time up there. We have a family flock that hangs out, scratching for food and squabbling over things, in that area. There is one huge white rooster that is definitely in charge. He keeps the others in line and makes sure the other two roosters don't fertilize any of his hens.

The trees out there are mostly mango, coconut palm, and tagentangen. There are no houses out there because the ground slopes very steeply up to the top of the mountain. Wehn the mangoes ripen we sit at the table enjoying mango in our meals and blessing the day we deicded to rent this place. We often dream of buying it.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Col K
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 07:13 PM

Thanks Jerry for starting this wonderful thread ,and thanks to all those who have contributed so far.
I have very happy memories of sitting at Jerry and Ruth's kitchen table and singing with the Messengers the first time and just generally chatting one my second visit. I also remember with great pleasure going with you and Leadfingers to your last rehearsal with Derrick before he left for Florida. That evening was also very special because of the love for each other that was there that night.

What is it about kitchen tables----- all the best parties happen around them, never in the room that the hosts expect you to use.
I hope that one day I will be able to share your kitchen table again Jerry and also have the chance to share kitchen tables with many others, both here on the cat and with many other friends all over the world.
All the best,
Colin


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ebbie
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 07:44 PM

Gads. Naemanson, you make heat and humidity sound postively idyllic.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 07:15 PM

I've been enjoying this thread, just sitting in my chair at a corner of the table, cradling my cup of tea, listening in on conversations as I work my way through a nasty cold.
Kitchen tables haven't featured much in my life for many years- as a child, it was where I sat among beloved grownups and just listened and learned, not comprehending everything but enjoying the company (much as I've been doing in this thread).
In later years, it's been the couch that's the center of the house- where I (still) cuddle my kids (even though they're both taller than me!), where my closest friends and I share a woolly throw over our toes as we confide and shoot the breeze. My kitchen/living room is all one big room, which might be why it's so.
When I was young, my mom's best friend had a couch in her old Vermont kitchen - it's still there, or was the last time I visited a few years ago. It was the spot for shelling peas, taking the weight off the feet after kneading the bread, sharing a cup of tea after a meal- I've always loved having the couch in the kitchen.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 11:31 PM

Billy Bob--

You were talking earlier about Cape May. I really like it too--associate it with great birding and with charming Victorian houses (charming--not in the realtor's translation, meaning "needs a lot of work" but actually full of charm.) Really have to get back there. But admittedly Sidmouth in festival week has more to offer than Cape May, to say the least, especially to a music addict --so Sidmouth is where we try to go every year. Hate to miss it ever. And there's only so much time.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 17 Mar 06 - 09:41 AM

Had an interesting kitchen-table conversation yesterday. Except it was over the phone. I was talking with Jonathan, the director of the Greater New Haven Male Fellowship Chorus that I sing in. I've been looking for a tenor for my gospel quartet now for well over half a year, with no success. I probably know, or have contact with at least a couple hundred singers in various groups and choruses, and I can't come up with one tenor. My friend Jonathan is very enthusiastic about my three man quartet and called to book us to do a concert at his church. I'd talked to him before about finding a tenor, and brought the subject up again. He said that I was going to have a hard time finding someone, and couldn't recommend anyone from his male chorus, or any of the other choirs and churches where he plays. He saw the difficulty in finding someone who has a natural ear for harmony, and can stick with it. Before I started singing in a male chorus ten years ago, I assumed that all singers could hear harmony. Man, was I wrong! Hearing harmony is a gift. Almost all of the singers in male choruses I've been involved in have to be taught their harmony part, and if they don't read music, they have a terrible time retaining it. Most of the baritones sing the melody, because that's what they hear. In the baritone sections in the two male choruses I sing in, half the time there are more baritones singing the melody than the baritone harmony. That's a puzzlement to me.

As long as we're just sitting around the table, I thought I'd find out what your experiences are in singing harmony (if you're a singer.) I might add that some of the greatest singers I know can't sing harmony.

Some of the greatest singers I know can't hear the key that the song is in.

Some of the greatest singers I know have no sense of timing.

That makes me greatful that I'm not one of the greatest singers, because I have always been able to hear harmony, can tell if I'm singing in a different key than the accompniment, and know when to come in on the next line. I don't take any credit for it. I did nothing to acquire the ability. I just have it, through no great effort on my part. It amazes me to hear singers confidently singing in a different key than the accompaniment, or thinking that they are singing harmony, when they're singing the melody. And can't hear the difference.

Any thoughts on this?

Have another cup of coffee.

Got cold beer in the fridge..

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Naemanson
Date: 17 Mar 06 - 06:11 PM

Just coffee, thanks. Yes, cream and sugar.

I can make up a harmony if the tune is simple enough. But I cannot do it easily. Usually I need to be taught a harmony and then I find I slip into unison singing if I'm not careful. I think it drove my fellow singers in Roll & Go crazy, at least those who could easily do their harmonies.

I even had trouble singing the melody line of one song a fifth higher than the lead. I kept wanting to drop down to his range. I've always attributed it to years spent singing with the radio on recordings.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 17 Mar 06 - 10:47 PM

That's interesting, Naemanson... Being a baritone, when most lead singers of popular music were tenors, I found myself singing harmony a lot. I couldn't hit the high notes on some of the songs. I think that I really got a feel for singing harmony by learning harmonies to Christmas carols as a kid. My Mother, my two older sisters and a handful of neighbors would go out Christmas caroling when I was a kid. (Now there's a lost tradition for you.) Byt the time rhythm and blues came out, I found myself singing harmony as often as I sang lead when I was listening to the radio.

One thing I've realized is that people who sing tenor (2nd tenor in a choir) almost always are singing the melody. They can be great singers, but have experience singing harmony. The first two tenors we had in our group had no ear for harmony at all... they were fine singers, but hadn't sung harmony most of their life.

I notice, by the way, that most of the baritones in the male chorus I sing in learn the baritone harmony by heart at a practice, but when the next practice rolls around, they've slipped back down to singing the melody.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 17 Mar 06 - 11:04 PM

Jerry-

I've already said a bit about harmony but I can always find more to say--it's a passion with me. Luckily I've always found it pretty easy to make up harmonies--or, perhaps just as significant, to realize when I'd best listen a bit more before trying to do it. Suppose it's the old nature/nurture split. I was lucky enough to get it from both. A lot of musical exposure early--and I gravitated to harmony pretty quick. Having some piano, I'm sure, helps, since you frequently hear harmonies in what you play with the left hand, and eventually, with the right hand too. I've been playing the viola for quite a while (though not seriously for a long time--haven't been in any orchestra since college.) You better believe with the viola you have to get used to playing harmonies--about the only melody I can recall for viola in classical music (aside from Berlioz' Harold In Italy, where the viola is the solo instrument)--(take that, you viola denigrators!)--is in the second movement of Beethoven's 7th Symphony. But I just love being part of the musical texture.

I've also had a bit of theory--not enough to understand all the threads about theory I've seen on Mudcat--but enough to be dangerous. A bit of theory sure does help in choral groups--you can tell from the accidentals--now Bach's in D major, now in G minor, now in F major. That way it's not just note, note, note--you can see how the harmonic progressions go--and it makes the music much easier to learn.


Then on top of that, I've been singing in groups for over 25 years--all different sorts of groups, and different sorts of music--madrigals, Sacred Harp, doo-wop, classical, Gershwin, Irving Berlin etc., bluegrass, sea chanteys, lots of church music--and I love lots of other types of vocal music--including Bulgarian women's groups, 30s and 40s calypso, lots of country duets, early jazz, Western swing, lots of black gospel, Sephardic--the list goes on. I think, though I have no evidence for this, that the more types of music you like, sing, and listen to, the more you understand how harmonies work in various types of music --and it helps you put them together quickly--and change super-quick when you realize you guessed wrong.

But you also need a good ear--and I lucked out there also.

What do you think--do you think people can be trained to learn to make up harmonies? I don't see how you'd go about doing it. Somehow you have to hear them--how could you instruct somebody in that?

Hope we get more comments.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 18 Mar 06 - 06:36 AM

I too learned harmony singing at my mother's knee, or rather, at her side, in church. I remember being very young, and noticing that she wasn't singing the melody of the hymns, but was singing something that sounded very beautiful to my 6-year-old ears. So I just joined in and sang with her- I remember her startled glance and her smile- a tremendous incentive to listen more and try to figure out how music worked.
I've been singing harmony ever since! I never really knew what I was doing until I got a university degree in music- but even that didn't take the spontaneous joy from me when singing.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: billybob
Date: 18 Mar 06 - 08:55 AM

Ron
you are so right about the charm of Cape May,the other thing I love about it (being English) is that few English tourists find it,and it is so unspoilt.We go there when we visit Billys folks in Pennsauken and one sister has a beach house at Wildwood.You are right about so little time , we have not been back to the states for thanksgiving for two years.Have   not been to Sidmouth for 15 years but have just booked to go this summer and 6 of my cousins are booked into the same pub,Hope they have a big table for our family reunion.The main reason for going is that I promised Dave Bryant I would join in with the middle bar singers singing "The leaf" (whats the life of a man) in his memory.Now there was a harmony singer!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 18 Mar 06 - 10:55 AM

Billy Bob--

Hope to see you at the Middle Bar. That must be one of the absolute best things about Sidmouth--and some of the best sings in the world. And I love all the Middle Bar traditions. As far as I'm concerned the Middle Bar is what not just pub singing but folk singing is all about.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: billybob
Date: 18 Mar 06 - 02:40 PM

see you there Ron, looking forward to meeting you and all the other mudcatters.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 18 Mar 06 - 03:44 PM

Not being able to "hear" the key of a song is a problem that is not limited to singers, by the way. In the last couple of years I've had the painful experience of hearing musicians blithely accompanying singers, playing in a different key. In black churches, it is commonplace for a singer or a group to get up and start singing, unaccompanied. It's the job of the instrumentalists to figure out what key they're singing in, and add the accompaniment. There are two men... one very short who plays electric bass, and one tall and thin who plays "lead" guitar. I keep coming across them. When the singers launch in to a new song, they quickly figure out a key that they can play in and they're off and running. Never mind that it isn't the key that the people are singing in. They are so transfixed by their guitars that they rarely even look up, other than to look at each other. Meanwhile, the singers are left twisting in the wind. I've seen this happen so many times in the last couple of years that I am convinced that they simply cannot hear that they are playing in the wrong key. They're nice enough guys when you talk to them. Just oblivious.

Can you teach someone how to find their own harmony? I know I couldn't. I've been a teacher for long stretches of my life, but I know that I don't have the education to do it. I don't even know how you'd go about it. Seems like it's more productive for all of us to discover where our gifts lie and develop them. And where they don't lie. I could never be a good dancer because I'm not graceful enough. But I can sing harmony...

Ya takes what ya gets and does the best ya can with it.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 19 Mar 06 - 12:33 PM

Jerry--

You're right about how important it is for instrumentalists to know what key the singer is in. If I'm acccompanying I always ask before the singer starts. As a singer, I always tell everybody before I start.

But it's a real problem, I'm sure, when the singer is going up against electric instruments who are determined to play in their own key.    Basically the singer has no chance.

I have a recording by Milton Brown (I think it's "Garbage Man") where the band is playing in an entirely different key from Milton--for at least a whole verse. It's hilarious--but probably wasn't intended to be so for that reason.

If the singer doesn't know what key he or she sings in, that has to be ironed out before the song starts.

I don't have a wonderful range. Without falsetto --(thanks to the Beach Boys my falsetto is strong)--I wouldn't be in any choral group. So when I lead a song I usually tell people "I sing in 2 keys, D and probably D". And in fact, it usually is D. So when it's going to be in G or A, I warn people. Then there's "Faded Love". Though a lot of recordings change keys at the chorus so the singer can sing it, I think it's much better if you can stay in the same key.   I've figured out that I can sing the whole song in one key--but only if the key is F (not instrumentalists' favorite key). But at least guitarists are usually willing to use capos. I can play it on the viola and sing it--in F. And people are willing to let me do it--fortunately for me.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Naemanson
Date: 19 Mar 06 - 03:24 PM

As an uneducated singer that is a problem I have run into time and time again. Musicians who know waht they are doing tend to ask what key I use for a song. But I don't know! My music comes from the heart and comes out of me at a key that sounds good in my head and fits into my vocal range.

Which brings up another point. Music must be one of those areas where the practitioner doesn't need to know what he's doing to succeed. There are plenty of successful (i.e., making a living on music) singers out there who don't know one key from another. They depend on their co-musicians to tell them. I can't point fingers because I am one of those people but then, I've never tried to make a living with music.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 19 Mar 06 - 03:58 PM

Don't feel bad, Naemanson: I often don't know what key I sing songs in either.

An interesting obesrvation. When a new person joins the Men's Chorus that I sing in, the Director asks them to sing a song, and then he figures out what key they're singing in. He says that that's their key... just as Ron's key seems to be D. Whe I questioned him on that, because I sing in several different keys, depending on the range of the particular song, he said that every singer has one key that's "their" key. So, I went back to my list of songs that the Gospel Messengers sing, to see if there was any validity to his generality. What I found was:

I sing songs in G, A,C,D, E and F (I don't seem to do any songs in B, but tha'ts probably because it's awkward plays a song in B on guitar. (Although Charlie Christian did The Blues In B.)

Our bass singer Joe sings in E, F, A & B

Frankie, (another baritone like me) sings songs in A, B, C and D.

Maybe it's because we all have a pretty large range. All of us can sing bass, baritone or second tenor on most songs. Joe is our best bass singer, although I sing bass when Joe is singing some of his leads. Frankie is our best tenor, although he is basically a baritone, but I sing second tenor when Frankie is singing lead. And Frankie has a fine falsetto, which he sings, except occasionally when he's singing the lead and I sing a passable, but not great falsetto to get above him.

With a trio, you do what you gotta do..

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 19 Mar 06 - 07:52 PM

In an informal situation (fortunately, that's the vast majority of them), somebody who's not sure what key he or she sings a given song in can hum either a snatch or maybe a full verse of a song before actually starting--by the end of the verse, instrumentalists can virtually always figure out the key. In a large portion of country songs, for instance, the key is the note sung on the last word sung in a chorus.

Then after instrumentalists do figure out the key, they may ask the singer to just go up or down a half step (particularly going up to C (no sharps or flats) from B (5 sharps--not the choice of fiddlers, for instance)--though Bill Monroe, I understand insisted on singing a awful lot in B (just to be cantankerous?--or to test his sidemen?--who knows?)

I've always thought that adjusting a half-step should be no problem for a singer. A full step--that's a different story.

But if you want instrumental accompaniment, it's eminently reasonable that the singer should be guided onto a specific key (not in between keys)--if he or she has no idea what key they sing a song in.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ebbie
Date: 19 Mar 06 - 10:29 PM

Whew. Had an emotional day so it feels good to be back here. Yes, I'd be happy for a cuppa. Thanks.

Today we had a memorial celebration for the long years and many events that this community lost a week ago. It was called McPhetres Hall, attached to a church that was also used for music. Gold Street Music, our new folk club, was born and nurtured there, along with many other events for more than two generations. Scarcely a person in Juneau does not have a connection with that hall.

It all went up in flames last Sunday in the early morning. Nothing was saved and it moils the heart and mind to see it today. About the only thing left intact is the three story chimney rearing its bleak head. There is a tall chain link fence around the site while the investigators do their thing. The church was built in 1895; the community hall some forty years later. Everything was made of wood, of course, as befits this forested land and everything was tinder dry.

Today there were many testimonials and reminiscenses from the audience, interspersed with 10 or so live music sets. It was all well done and each song was appropriate, including a song still in process by our resident bluesman, Pat Henry. He sang that the building is gone, it's gone, but the church still stands...


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 19 Mar 06 - 11:21 PM

Thanks for sharing that, Ebbie:

You know, the nice thing about this thread is that there is no such thing as thread drift. I started this not as a nostalgia thread (although God Knows, I've done more than my share of nostalgia-mongering in my day.) It's a "sitting at the kitchen table, talking about whatever comes to mind kind of a thread, so everything is equally valid to talk about. I really appreciate the specific threads, and have learned an enormous amount from them. (Tonight I printed my first label on a CD for my Gospel Messengers CD and am ready to go into production.) I don't know that I could have done that without all of the help from my friends in here.

But, this is just a nice, late-night kinda thread. I just got off the phone after talking with one of my sons for almost an hour and a half. I hadn't heard from him since Christmas and was concerned about him. Turns out, he's going through a lot of stress at work and has been wiped out emotionally by all the turmoil. Our conversation was very much a kitchen table kind of talk... minus the kitchen table.

I'm so sorry to hear what happened up your way, Ebbie. That's a hard loss to deal with. Oddly, it brought back memories of a tragedy where I worked. A young man (early 30's) who was a beloved Boy Scout leader of a pack sponsored by the place where I worked was accused of sexually molesting young boys, years earlier. His current pack stood up for him as character witnesses, but a couple of adults came forward saying that he had molested them several years earlier. When it became clear that it was going to be made public and taken to trial, the man who worked for me committed suicide. Hung himself in his Mother's garage where he lived. His Mother came out and found him. Some tragedies defy any rational explanation. They just hurt. There's no sense in trying to figure out "why." You just have let the pain out, release it and try to comfort each other. It sounds like that's what you and your friends did, Ebbie. Good on you!

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: billybob
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 01:57 PM

Sitting at my table with a glass of wine bemoaning the fact that my iron just blew up and the pile of ironing is far too high,So I thought I would look in at the mudcat table and Ebbie and Jerry just made me put things in perspective!I have snowdrops in the garden, snow is forcast here in East Anglia, but it is the spring equinox and summer will come soon.Mothers Day here in the uk next Sunday Gerry , makes me feel so much for that young mans mother.Must count my blessings, all the family coming home on Sunday and a grand child on the way.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 03:04 PM

I'm sure that it will be a Grand child, billybob.

You got me nervous about Mother's Day... it's not until May 14th, here. Can't forget me Mum..

I raised my two sons alone. That still don't make me a Mum, though.
Maybe they should have Surrogate Mums Day for all those who raised kids what didn't have a Mum around.

Maybe I'll e-mail Hallmark..

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: billybob
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 03:32 PM

Thanks Jerry, bet it will be a Grand grandchild,it will be our first and we are over the moon,
we always had a problem for mothers day as in the UK it is always the same sunday in Lent so the date changes year by year, but we always had to buy an extra card and save till May for Billys mother in Pennsauken.I was always worried that I would put the card away somewhere safe and miss the day!I have to admit it did happen ocasionally,
Great idea about Surrogate Mums day, maybe we should have a day for everyone who loves kids that would include mums,dads, grandparents ,uncles, aunts and numerous friends and family.I was on my own when the kids were young before I met Billy and I have to say that the best friends I had were from folk clubs and morris teams and they all became very supportive to my daughter and son,many of them came to my daughters wedding and indeed played during the wedding.
These friendships have grown over 35 years and now I find are continuing in Mudcat,best they all draw up a chair at this table?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 03:38 PM

Plenny a room at the table. How many people have raised discarded kids from their children or relatives? That kind of loving commitment is staggering to me. In a way, it seems even more of a lifetime generous act than raising your own children.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: jimmyt
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 10:22 PM

Hi All,

Nice to be here at the table to talk a bit! I have had a very trying day and I would like to add to the harmony discussion but if you don't mind, I will just drink a glass of wine and reflect on you all a bit til I gather my thoughts. Jerry and Ron and Naemanson and Ebbie and BIllybob seem to make a good table full and a vast source of info on music and harmony. I will be back soon to write a bit. We may all meet at getaway and if we do, I want to sing the great chorus, Farther Along that Jerry and I discussed one night on the phone! I can hear the harmonies ringing right now, and yes, Ron, D is a fine key! grin


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 10:27 PM

Yeah, it would be great to sing together at the Getaway, Jimmy. Even if it does mean that you get to sing bass. I'm pretty good at filling holes in the harmony, though and content to do that.

By the by, I've got a batch of Gospel Messenger CDs about ready... as soon as I find out the composer of one of the songs, I'll be ready to print the booklet and back. I already have a batch of CDs recorded, with labels printed on the CDs. I'm hoping to see who holds the copyright on the song tomorrow. I certainly want to give songwriters due credit. If I pay royalties, they'll end up getting a check for a cool $1.63 six months from now when they add up..

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: jimmyt
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 10:33 PM

Jerry I only love singing bass on Do-wop. Otherwise,I rather enjoy inner harmony parts and baritone is great for my tastes! sounds like you are doing great with your CDs COngrats   jimmyt


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: ranger1
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 10:32 AM

On the subject of fine folks raising kids not theirs by biology, I would like to thank my steps for being such wonderful people. When I speak of my parents, it usually means my mom and my step-dad. A wonderful guy who wasn't particularly into having kids but took raising us like a duck to water. When people ask him about kids, he always answers: "I have two daughters." There's never any mentions of us being his step-kids, we're his kids.

My step-mom was also a fantastic person and what she was doing with my dad, I never did figure out. But I'm sure glad she was there. It made weekend visits not only tolerable but also fun. She's been dead for 10 years now, and I still miss her very much.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 11:27 AM

Hey, Ranger:

Yeah, I'm not much into step-folks. One of the things that please me is that my son Pasha from Ruth's first marriage introduces me as his father. I refer to him as my son, and it has felt natural from the beginning for us, even though he was in his late 40's when Ruth and I were married. He was kinda an instant son. The folks at the bank say, "Your son was in here the other day," and that's sweet too because Pasha is black and last time I checked, I was white. Our daughter Dee from Ruth's first marriage has always introduced me as "This is my Mother's husband." That's fine, too. Whatever people honestly feel is fine with me. But, the other night when we were out somewhere, she introduced us as "This is my Mother, and this is Pops." I liked that. I'll take "Pops" any day. Beats Step-Pops.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: ranger1
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 11:41 AM

Yeah, Jerry. I have to bite my tongue around my sister a lot because of the whole step-parent thing. I love her dearly, but she falls squarely into the evil "step-mother" category. And she can't figure out why the kids act up around her. When they're out with me, I introduce them as "this is my niece/nephew." I don't have any kids of my own, but I am blessed with twelve wonderful nieces and nephews on my side of the family and three on Jason's. Some of them are related by blood, some aren't, and I don't care. I love 'em all and wish I got to see all them more.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: David C. Carter
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 01:21 PM

Hi there Jerry,a pretty crowded table you got here,hope you got enough chairs!I'm sure you do.Things are fast going down hill here at the moment,student strikes,unions calling for a general strike etc.My son Vladimir,goes off to college in the morning, and is back in 20mins.Exams are coming around soon,things are going every which way.Talking of children,one of Vladimir's friends,a real nice kid,lost his parents,the father at Christmas and his mother the following Easter.We became his Foster parents.Fabien was 10 at the time,he's now been with us 9yrs.It wasn't all roses at first,getting to know each other's habits,adjusting etc.But along with Fabien we found a whole new family,his aunts,uncles,their children who took to our own son as one of theirs.We've been all around Europe,over to my friends in London,to my wife's family in Croatia.I can't tell you what he has brought to us as a family.Just wanted to share that with you.Put the kettle on!

David


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 01:33 PM

Polly put the kettle on..

Hi, David:

Always plenty of room at the table. Good for you and your wife for being foster parents... a noble, extremely demanding responsibility to take. Not without its rewards, as you have discovered.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Naemanson
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 05:53 PM

This seems like a good place for a bit of humor. Several years ago, here on Guam, Several years ago we had an election and one of the candidates was named Geri. Her name was on signs all over the island. The Japanese tourists were surprised, puzzled, and somewhat disgusted to see these signs. The Japanese word for diarhea is 'geri' pronounced (geh-li - hard 'g'). That has spawned an interesting bit of urban legend here on the island. No babies have been named Jerry (or any variation of that name) since them. People on the island really believe the word means diarhea not realizing they are not pronouncing it correctly.

A rose by any other name...

As to parents, I was very lucky that I have two great parents and that they still live in relatively good health. My sister's husband was not a good parent and early on she asked me to stand in as a role model for her son. I did my best. We ended up in a role playing game that ran on for 8 years. Her son and my kids formed a solid allegiance that found its headquarters in my home. Now they are all grown and gone off to live their lives but they still remember those long evenings playing a game around a table and laughing with family into the wee hours.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 06:07 PM

And good on you helping your sister's son, naemanson. Diarhea, eh? I've been called a lot of things in my life, but never that.. :-)

Funny how I got my name. My Parents wanted to name me Lars, after my Grandfather. Now, that would have been a cool name. I bet it doesn't mean diarhea in any language.. But, my oldest sister had a terrible crush on a boy in our neighborhood named Jerry and she bugged my parents so mercilessly that they finally relented and named me Jerry. Of course, the romance between my older sister and the love of her life faded. She was only five years old at the time..

My son Pasha started calling me Jeremiah, the Old Prophet not long after he first met me. Now, Jeremiah sounds a lot more dignified. Than diarhea.

Lars (Don't I wish)


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: billybob
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 08:32 PM

When I married Billy he had a son and a daughter and so did I.Right at the begining we said we did not believe in "steps" children have a mother and a father and "steps" are bonus parents as they choose to have you.
I think we got it right, Billy has been a wonderful bonus dad to my two,( we would have to ask the opinion of his two as to what they think of me!!)My proudest moment was my daughter getting married and her two dads walking her into church and giving her away and then both giving speeches at the reception as father of the bride. I always feel sad when young people are getting married and one parent or the other(when divorced) dictate that if the ex comes to the wedding then they will not.A young lady who used to work for me got married far away from home in St Lucia with neither parents there as her mother refused to be in the same room as her ex husband and the bride did not want to upset either of them at great emotional expense to herself, we all have issues, but our children should come first.
Loving this late night table Jerry, glass of wine then off to bed, night all


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 11:01 PM

Yeah, Billybob, I love stopping in here to see who has settled in for a moment. And I know that others have stopped by but didn't feel moved to post at the time.

Tonight was a beautiful one for me. My friends Joe and Frankie of the Gospel Messengers are such wonderful men. Like many wonderful people, they've passed through life almost unnoticed. They are both fine singers, and even finer people. Frankie will hit 80 early in May, and Joe will follow right behind him later in the month, hitting 82. Like all high-mileage models, they're spending more and more time in the repair shop and it becomes increasingly difficult for them to make the kind of commitment that is needed to keep a group growing. But tonight... I gave each of them their first 6 copies of our CD... it's hard to know how much it means to them. I know that Joe is very moved by it. After a life-time of singing whit his whole heart and soul, he finally has something he can hold in his hands, and give to others. I feel very honored to have been able to give this to both of them, and they are soooo thankful. It does my heart good to see good people get their just deserts.

Of coures, they have to eat their vegetables first. Joe and Frankie have been eating their vegetables for 80 years.

Now it's desert time..

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 11:31 PM

Gee Jerry, what did they do to be sent into the desert? (Just kidding).


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 11:49 PM

LOL, Ron: I guess I must be tired. Maybe that's what they mean about being retired. Ever since I retired I've been tired again, and again. Re-tired.

Joe and Frankie are getting their just desserts.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 22 Mar 06 - 06:33 AM

Jerry--I didn't mean to be presumptous. I just look for humor everywhere--and therefore find it. I love puns and other wordplay. I suppose that's why the copycat threads these days don't bother me at all--they're often based on puns, misstypings and other wordgames.

I suppose this also illustrates two possible hazards of the Internet. At a real kitchen table, typing wouldn't be important since you would have pronounced the word. Also, at a real table, you would be able to see that I was kidding from my expression. I just felt that we were informal enough so I could venture that facetious remark. Probably shouldn't have--but I'm glad you took it in the right (joshing) spirit. I was picturing a possible Far Side cartoon in which a guy was telling some others now they would get their just desert--and pointing out into a waterless waste.

Oh well, I should learn to restrain myself. It ain't easy.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 22 Mar 06 - 07:05 AM

"presumptuous". Physician, heal thyself.

"Young man home from college makes a great display
"'With a fancy adjective that he can hardly say"

(Both directed at myself)


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 22 Mar 06 - 08:42 AM

I thought it was pretty funny, Ron:

Sometimes funny uses of words flow naturally. Once I was playing a board game (In graduate school) with my roommate and I need a sxi, rolling the dice. I rolled a 4 and a 2, and without even thinking said, "how fortuitous." :-)

I can deal with the most obnoxious person on earth. But put me in the company of someone without a sense of humor and I'm in trouble.

I also so a photo mislabeled, by the way, of my wife and I stopping for desert...

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Mar 06 - 11:26 AM

When my father turned 80, he and two friends went out for a celebratory breakfast. Both his friends had turned 80 earlier in the same month; my father was the youngest of the three.

At one point my father said, You know, we've about got it made. They say very few people die when they're 80.


My father died when he was 93. Strangely enough, each of the three men died in the order of their births.

Speaking of a sense of humor, that is the one place where my mother and father were well matched. My father loved to make people laugh and my mother loved funny things.

Another cup, Jerry? Can I get someone else a cup while I'm up?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 22 Mar 06 - 11:50 AM

I'll take a cup while you're up, Ebbie:

Getting back to harmony.. of the musical kind. Last night I had practice with my friends Joe and Frankie. We've been together now for over 9 years and because we all have a good, natural sense of harmony, none of us has stepped forward to do "arrangements." At least that's the way I've perceived it. In truth, I guess I have been the one, although I have never felt capable of doing it. So, even when I've been doing a lot of the arranging, I would never call it that. Sometimes I think that things we think we can't do are often things we just haven't done yet. Or realized that we've been doing them all along. Last night, I tried something different, because we were having trouble finding good harmonies on a song we all love. Because our tenor is gone, we've had to rework a lot of the harmonies, and it's been a good experience. Joe, our wonderful bass singer has an enormous range and he decided to come up and sing Frankie's baritone harmony. That pushed Frankie up into a high tenor range, which was too high for him, so he slipped down underneath Joe's harmony. That left us with our bass singer tenor and our baritone singing bass. And we really stunk (Whoops, that's being judgmental!) By the time we realized it and went back to what we used to do, we'd lost everything. So, what I started doing was at each chord change, I stopped and showed the guys what notes they could hit that were in that chord. It was a breakthrough for us. After all these years. When we found our notes at each chord change, then it was relatively easy for the guys to hear where they were going. Along the way, I realize that I was "arranging" our harmonies. Considering that I can't do it, it worked out fine. :-)

When we are singing in the Male Chorus we all sing in, I have reached the point where I can hear the baritone harmony on the piano. I think that's because when a chord is hit, you hear all four harmony notes simultaneously. It's different on guitar, and harder for the guys to hear. That's why stopping and playing the individual notes of the chord was so helpful.

I'm curious to hear from you Catters who really know what you're doing, "arranging" harmonies..

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Mar 06 - 12:03 PM

Boy! This I want to hear.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 23 Mar 06 - 11:16 AM

Yeah, I'm waiting too, Ebbie: (I just sent off a long e-mail on the subject and would be glad to forward one to you if you PM your e-mail address.)

One thing about kitchen tables. Sometimes, you just sit down by yourself and have a cup of coffee and reflect on friends and old conversations. I lived alone for a long slug of time in my life, when the only company I had at my kitchen table was my two cats. They were good company, and listened attentively when I spoke to them (as long as there was some food in the deal.)

There's a line in a song that Carmen McRae sings that seemed very wise to me, and it applies to all conversation. The song is about looking back at the mistakes we've made in our lives:

"I Never stopped to listen, never missed a chance to speak."

Sometimes, it's good to just sit and listen to the silence. Old conversations come floating back to you and it's as if you are once again sitting at the table with an old friend.

So, if you don't mind, I'll just sit here and have a cup of coffee and talk with my wife. Perhaps someone will stop by, later..

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Ron Davies
Date: 24 Mar 06 - 11:36 AM

Jerry-

I wish I could help with explaining about arranging harmonies. My hat's off to those can arrange music, as it is to composers and writers like you.

But as for arranging--no,no, no it ain't me babe, it ain't me you're lookin' for, babe. In the groups I've led, either the entire arrangement was already written out or we just filled in the chords as they changed, trying not to duplicate. It wasn't easy.

In the bluegrass group I was in, it was even harder--bluegrass seems to prescribe only specific harmonies for specific voices--I was used to making up harmonies according to what I could do and what I thought the song called for--but wound up poaching on others' vocal territory, it seems. They seem pretty strict about that in bluegrass.

By the way, I will be very busy for the next 3 days---hope to get back to the Kitchen Table perhaps Monday.

I do know some people who have arranged music. Maybe next week I can pick the brains of one arranger--who, interestingly enough, arranges black gospel--to get some pointers from him. It sure sounds like an arcane science to me.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 24 Mar 06 - 11:46 AM

Well, have a good weekend then, Ron:

Not to excessively oversimplify bluegrass harmony, but it seems like it could all be entered in to a computer. It's one of the reasons that I don't personally enjoy most bluegrass. (There are some exceptions, like our own Barbara and Frank Shaw's group, Shoregrass... they are probably more to my taste because they don't seem programmed.) Coming to harmony through folok music probably makes me more amenable to looser harmonies. Some of the stuff I really love in traditional folk allows for a lot of freedom, including individual harmonies to change at times, even within the same song. Some folks find security and pleasure in tightly worked out, close harmonies. Just call me too-loose Latrec.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: lady penelope
Date: 24 Mar 06 - 04:30 PM

Heh.

Hi guys, haven't been round for a bit. Life's been a bit ....... strained. Any way, Richard Digence's definition of harmony is to "pick a note an move it around till the person next to you stops whincing....." It's advice that worked for me for years. :0)


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 24 Mar 06 - 04:45 PM

Hey Lady:

That sounds like my approach to playing chords on guitar. When I first started out as a teenager, I wanted to be a jazz guitarist. I barely knew the basic chords, but I could hear the music in my head. I worked out an admittedly somewhat primitive arrangement of one of my favorite pieces, Little Girl Blue with fairly sophisticated chords way up on the neck, played in a less than graceful approach due to my limited experience. I wonder what it would sound like now, if I heard it. I'd probably do some wincing (not because the harmonies were wrong, but because I didn't have the facility to make the music flow smoothly) but I'd probably laugh at my audacity and naevity. For me, it has always been a matter of moving my fingers around until what I hear in my head comes out of my guitar. Even today, I play many chords that I have no idea what they are. They just sound right.

Singing harmony can be the same way. I have the musical literacy of a cave man, but I know what sounds good (and what sounds sour.)

Sorry your life has been a bit strained lately... and glad that you stopped by for a minute..

Be sure to come back..

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Naemanson
Date: 24 Mar 06 - 07:05 PM

My seat at our kitchen table is next to the back door. Now that we are into the dry season we often open up the house in the cool of the morning. We have a flock of wild chickens that wander through our yeard every morning, the roosters crowing and the hens cackling and clucking to each other. The other day I picked the last piece of crust out of the bread bag and threw it out there for them. They scrambled and squabbled over it and generally appreciated it as only a flock of chickens can. Today I tossed them another piece of bread and then some cooked rice. I enjoy feeding them. They are very skittish, being wild, but also greedy enough to overcome that skittishness if I don't move too much. The roosters are big beautiful birds, very colorful and proud. The hens are pretty in a variety of colors and markings. One is almost all black and very dark green. Another is white with brown speckles. I'm hoping to see chicks soon. I love to watch them chasing around under the mother hen's feet.

It makes for good entertainment from my kitchen table. Much better than TV.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 24 Mar 06 - 08:21 PM

Chickens are indeed good entertainment. As I mentioned earlier, in the years that I lived in the Gate House at the Stamford Museum where I worked, chickens would wander down from our small farm to search for food on the lawn outside my kitchen window. I always got a kick out of watching them. They were quite aggressive if I put food out, not being intimidated by the crows who always appeared within 30 seconds out of nowhere, or the squirrels.

I also has a banty rooster as a pet when I was living at home for my first year of college. His name was Herbert, and I wrote a song about him. Chickens aren't just good for eating.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: billybob
Date: 25 Mar 06 - 05:58 AM

Morning all, thought it was time to stop work for a coffee ,at last Spring has come to England , after weeks of very cold weather yesterday was dreary,wet and grey but this morning the sun is shining , the sky blue and the temperature is warm.Looking out of my window people walking by are smiling and chatting in the street, happy to spend a few minutes to gossip and put the world to rights.
I may go for a walk by the sea at lunchtime.We are only a few hundred yards from the beach but never go there in the winter, one sunny day and the place comes alive.
Loving all your talk about harmony, I can do it but have no idea how!
Used to sing in the church choir when I was young so maybe old memories from a time long gone?
Coffee smells good.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Leadfingers
Date: 25 Mar 06 - 06:43 AM

I HATE Computers !!! Just wrote a real screed about Harmony singing ,
only to have my electronic monster eat it and NOT send it of to Mudcat Central ! I'll try again later - Going to get my crossword now (Good for the Torygraph) - Be trying again later ! In fact , start the kettle for a strong coffe and I will be right back !


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 25 Mar 06 - 11:08 AM

Hey, Terry:

Occasionally, I wished that I had a formal musical education so that I could express myself more intelligently. There's a particularly British/English harmony that I can recognize and yet can't identify what it is about it that makes it sound like the Copper Family, not the Carter Family. Friends of mine took one of my very American songs, Milwaukee/St. Paul and gave it an, English sounding harmony. I thought that they did a nice job on the song (they recorded it) and appreciated their support. But why did they make it sound English? It's about a railroad line in the upper Midwest.

Two things I notice when there are sing-alongs at Folk Festivals in this country. That English harmony thing is very prevalent. I actually like the sound of it a LOT, but it gives a different feel to the songs. They all start to sound like sea chanteys.

The other thing I find, interestingly, is that when The Gospel Messengers are leading singing in a folk festival workshop or concert in a folk club, the audience likes to hold out the notes at the end of the line ... kinda savor them. Black gospel is often very rhythmic and the way I describe it is that you "snap" the last word of a line, rather than hold it out. There's often a subtle tug of war going on when we sing for a folk audience, trying to get them to get into the rhythm of the music rather than slowing down the rhythm to fit their usual style of singing. It's a challenge at times, but great fun, too. Once you accept that it's a different style of singing and get into it, it's very liberating and invigorating. Wouldn't work very well on a sea chantey or murder ballad, but it really drives the music home in black gospel.

Always nice to hear from you, Terry

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Leadfingers
Date: 25 Mar 06 - 02:15 PM

I'll try again ! Jerry - you're mention of the bantam reminded me of Jake Thackeray 's Bantam Cock - Very Funny and definately NOT politically correct !
When I was involved with Fools Gold , we did straight three part harmony , with all sorts of instrumental backing ! I had always 'had a go' at harmonies in choruses sometimes even getting away with it . With the Gold , it was a different ball game as the other two members had been singing harmony for EVER ! In rehearsal there would be a cry of " WHOA !! You're on MY note there" - OK , whats the melody note ? YOUR Harmany is what ? OK , the chord means I want something like X to fit . - Sounds long winded , but as we all three had portable tape recorders , we had an aural reminder of each rehearsal , so it was easy for me to memorise the harmony I needed . A steep learning curve , but it DID work , and there were a lot worse semi pro groups on the local scene .


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 25 Mar 06 - 02:29 PM

Tape recorders are a help indeed, Terry. And when you sing harmony, people can get very possesive of "their" note. I did a gospel album many years ago and used The Beans (Jim Bean is a sometimes visitor in here.) When I'd hear them working out harmonies, I thought that it was very humorous. Talk about pride of possession.

You're right too, Terry about instruments carrying harmony too, as other "voices." I use my guitar to fill in "holes" or strengthen the lead. And when we have it right, I love to stop playing guitar and just listen to the voices. Nothing tops four (or three) voices in strong harmony when you hit that perfect blend and it becomes one sound. At least, not for me.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: lady penelope
Date: 25 Mar 06 - 05:14 PM

I know what you mean about 'english' harmonies. From the viewpoint of being english, I listen to american stuff and notice that the harmonies that tend to be prevelant (well at least in the stuff I've heard) are noticeably different to those used over here.

I think it has to do with accents. How you speak a sentence and how you sing it are not so different unless you have a different accent and working vocabulary. I reckon that people pick up on the sounds they're used to. Also the 'english' harmonies are more straightforward. Or, if you like, less subtle..... :0)


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Naemanson
Date: 25 Mar 06 - 08:07 PM

Ah, The Beans. After Dave Parry died (a terrible shame, that) I shared a stage with them at a memorial concert. That was a great experience. Next time you see any of them tell them Brett Burnham remembers them and wishes them well. I doubt they'll remember me. At the concert I did a recitation of C. Fox Smythe's Ships That Pass. They might remember that.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 25 Mar 06 - 10:00 PM

I'll pass along my regards, Brett. I've done several of the Gospel In Black And White Workshops I host with the Beans as the "white" gospel. They were a delight to work with on the gospel album that I never released... no fault of theirs, as their singing was right on the money. They really opened my eyes to the whole process of working out harmonies when they worked on my gospel album, too.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 25 Mar 06 - 10:25 PM

People, it has been grand being here UNDER THE TABLE all this time just listening like crazy to all the music and the talk. (Bet you never noticed I was down there!? Right?)

It reminds me of the time when I was about 20 years old and me and a couple of friends would go into the bar at Second City in Chicago---circa 1961. The talk and the camaraderie down there was simply grand. Several times that year, when I had nothing much better to do, I'd wander in there and order some food and a Coke--since I was too young to drink. They didn't seem to mind as long as I stuck to soft drinks. Del Close was down there holding court then--and Nelson Algren, writer of 'Man With The Golden Arm' too. The conversations were mesmerizing and they'd let a kid say something once in a while too. One night Algren kept after me to have a beer but I didn't want to get anyone in trouble--especially myself. He'd had several already I yhink, and he just slid his own beer down the bar to me and winked at the bartender--who turned away exasperated. No way was he gonna argue with the pretty well known writer. (I actually didn't know much about the guy then.)--- Sure, I'd had beer before, but that was actually the first beer I ever had sitting at the bar in a real saloon. ------ After that I read his books and found out who that cantankerous surly guy was.----
Them are real fond memories from another kitchen table that really wasn't one at all. Seems like a dream all this time later.

If youll let me get up from bein' under here, it's about time I headed to the john...

Art Thieme


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 26 Mar 06 - 07:06 AM

Interesting comments, Lady Penelope. When Colin Kemp has visited here and stayed with us there would be times when he'd start speaking rapidly and I couldn't catch everything he was saying. When he did that, I'd jokingly tell him, "Speak English, Colin!" There are words where the accent falls on a different symbol in the two countries, and that will have an affect of phrasing (although not necessarily on harmony.)

From my perspective, American harmonies are not more subtle than English.. just more varied. That makes sense, because as the movie says, "This is a big country." It's harder to say what American harmony is. If I had to make a copmarison (And it should take 30 seconds for someone to shoot this down,) I'd compare English harmony with bluegrass harmony.. not because they sound at all alike, but because they seem to be pretty much "all worked out." I wish there was a better way to describe that. In bluegrass, you don't have to figure out where your harmony line is (or the bass runs on guitar.)
Somebody already figured it out for you fifty years ago. It seems much the same in English harmony (again an overgeneralization.) There seem to be some distinctive chords that are protable from song to song. (I really enjoy English harmony a lot, and don't think of it as less subtle, by the way.)

When Colin, Theresa, Noreen and Sussex Carole (and Terry) have been here, they've sung with the Messengers, and it's been a great deal of fun. Sea chantey singing and black gospel seem to mesh very naturally, as far as harmonies are concerned... pretty straightforward four part harmonies. The rhythms may be different, but Colin would make a fine bass for the Gospel Messengers. And Joe could handle sea chanteys just fine.

Interesting to get your perspective, Penelope...

Jerry

What could be clunkier and less subtle than the Carter Family? And I love them..


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: lady penelope
Date: 26 Mar 06 - 09:55 AM

It's more in the tone of various accents. You pick up on the tone of a voice and that can vary what sounds good as the next note along..... I dunno if I'm saying this in a coherant fashion.

I guess it's also a case of what you're used to. I find english harmonies straightforward, but then that's what I grew up with.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: jimmyt
Date: 26 Mar 06 - 10:26 AM

Good stuff here! On arrangements, I try to write out the melody first. Then go back and lay down the chords at the right places, usually written if root position (CEG), knowing that if necessary I can change the chord to 1st inversion(EGC) or 2nd inversion (GEC) if it fits the 'voicings. THen I write the bass line which has the usual jumps in it. From there it is pretty much a connect-the-dots as the one or 2 inner harmonies are comprised of the missing note from the triad. Obviously if the song requires a really close harmony with lots of trash chords MAjor 7ths, sixths or ninths like you hear in the blueeyed do-wop I do, it requires a bit more tweaking to keep from having the 3 big problems I hear in poor arrangements, 1 odd lines in the inner parts, 2 parallel 5ths, 3 missing part, ie no third of the chord so it sounds like Gregorian chant on that note. Mind you, all of these issues I also see used for EFFECT by good arrangers, but it is a bit like painting, you need to be able to draw a picture of a horse first, then you can make the horse look odd with cubism. Well I have rambled on enough about that, but would like your thoughts ! jimmyt


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 26 Mar 06 - 11:17 AM

Thanks for your imput, Jimmy. It's always a pleasure listening to someone who knows what he's doing. While you are far more musically sophisticated than I am, it's at least encouraging to see that you build harmony lines from chord to chord. I will most likely never be able to approach arranging the way that you do, because I don't have the background to do it. I don't even understand what you're talking about.. :-) I just admire folks what knows what they're doing. I have to do things by ear. Fortunately, I've had singers to work with who had a good ear for harmony and the "arranging" has been a group process. Kind of a "That doesn't sound right.. let's try this... oh, that sounds good!" Or, "That's even worse!, let's try something else." If anything, I function as a harmony policeman, stopping the guys when I hear something that doesn't sound right. Again, coming back to the chord helps to find where the harmony has gone astray.

Hopefully, someone who knows more than I do will come in and respond to your post, Jimmy..

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: jimmyt
Date: 26 Mar 06 - 01:10 PM

Jerry, you forget more about music every day than I will ever know. It is in your heart and soul. I always approached music aurally even when I was a little kid.   In the 4th grade I got a trumpet and joined the school band program. Even before we got off the first page of the Belwin Band Builder book, I had learned to play three notes,E,( first two fingers), G (open) and C (open) I figured out that this was the theme of "In the Mood" the great old Glenn Miller song. Within a couple days I found out an amazing discovery for a 4th grader. If I started on low C, and played the same pattern, but made it CEG instead of EGC, I played a part that I KNEW was a companion to the "melody" I really didn't know what harmony was per se but I could "hear" the melody as I played this rudimentary harmony.

Well, that pretty much was all I needed to run with the ball. I always resisted learning to read and am still a poor reader, but Harmony just made sense to me in a very elemental way. I still get more out af a beautiful chord progression than I ever do from the melody line or the words to a song. I just enjoy the "Fabric" of music, the harmonic relationships.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: jimmyt
Date: 26 Mar 06 - 01:14 PM

By the way, I have, in my mind at present, writing an entire piece for musical theater named HARMONY, which will feature all of the different voicings from chant forward, through our modern harmonies, barbershop, etc. sort of a Music APpreciation course on stage! It is still in the very early thought stage, but I just know it is a do-able idea. WIsh me luck!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: David C. Carter
Date: 26 Mar 06 - 01:58 PM

Jerry,my family were never "clunky!" well maybe just a wee bit!And they certainly were never accused of being "subtle".
You didn't hear my mother play the banjo,a sight for sore ears,I can tell you!

I'll get me banjo
David


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 26 Mar 06 - 02:07 PM

LOL, David!

I knew Janette Carter and loved her music, and her family's. The Carter family is the bedrock of much of my music. Maybe you were that "other" Carter Family I heard about? I love Maybelle's chunka chunka rhythm. If only they'd done some Mozart... I would have loved to have heard them. Maybe that's why one of their cousins was named Amadeus.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: David C. Carter
Date: 26 Mar 06 - 02:19 PM

We were not known for "Twining with our Mingles",that's for sure!Probably why we rocketed to oblivion!

A P


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Naemanson
Date: 26 Mar 06 - 06:32 PM

Would you say that gospel music is easier to make harmonies on? I find, when listening to gospel, that I can actually come up with harmony lines. This is something I can not do with most other styles. Why is that I wonder?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 26 Mar 06 - 08:12 PM

I think that the old gospel music really came out of group singing, either in church or in the living room. Wherever the individual song originated, I think that they were tempered in the experience of singing them together. Contemporary black gospel (at least) comes out of mass choirs to a great extent, but the musical influences are less the old style of singing than hip hop and contemporary R&B. funny the way things evolve... rhythm and blues and soul music came out of black gospel, and now contemporary gospel is coming out of R&B and hip hop. Not Little Richard, Chuck Berry, Fats Domino or the Moonglows. Definitely not James Brown or Tina Turner. Somewhere along the way, R&B got smoothed out and lost its individuality... probably about the time that corporate motivations over-rode creative ones.

I was kidding my son Pasha the other day when we were working on refinishing floors and he had a contemporary R&B station on. I said that if you eliminated all songs that had "ooh," or "baby" in them, you'd have trouble coming up with enough songs to make a top 40.

But, the old southern gospel, black or white had straightforward melodies and chord progressions and simple harmonies. There were also a lot of call and response songs, and songs where just one word would be changed in a verse, and it would be sung again. Plenty of time to pick up the harmonies.

Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Sitting At The Kitchen Table
From: jimmyt
Date: 26 Mar 06 - 08:51 PM

Yeah, Neamanson. It is pretty straight forward for 2 reasons. Melodies that you are familiar with, and predictable chord progressions. A bit like the easiest way to learn to ad lib instrumentally is on a straight blues progression. You know where it is going all the time. Try to follow celtic music if you want to go batty trying to predict harmonic progression. It is totally unpredictable to our American ears and does not dwell on the 1,4, 1, 5, 5(7th) stuff that we sort of know at a primitave level. Celtic harmony is frequently 1, 7