A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?

Subject: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: Forsh
Date: 05 Mar 06 - 03:57 PM

Hi Folks,
I am thinking of organizing a 70's folk fest (Artists from that era)
at Clennell Hall in Northumberland, (UK) for Next year. Who do you think I should have there? Who would YOU come to see? Would you be interested in such an event? Help me out here folks!
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OR visit the site!: Visit Clennell Hall Web Site Here!
OR ya cam PM me!
Bestist Regardithongs
Forsh

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: Kaleea
Date: 05 Mar 06 - 04:00 PM

I can't speak for folks (pardon the pun) in the UK, but if it were in my neck of the woods, I think it would be lots of fun!

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: GUEST,wordy
Date: 05 Mar 06 - 04:01 PM

A great idea. Maybe dedicated to those who can't be there but who were the ones of that time. You can count me in.

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 05 Mar 06 - 04:03 PM

That was 30 years ago... why look back?

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: greg stephens
Date: 05 Mar 06 - 04:14 PM

Forsh: do you know the Mudcatter called Shepherdlass? She is currently writing a thesis on folk in the north-east pre-1975. Maybe she can supply you with some interesting back-up information?

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Mar 06 - 06:36 PM

Clinton, it's not looking back. There are some great performers out there who don't get any media coverage because of ageism and changing fashion. They're just as good as they ever were. Nice to re-discover them before it's too late don't you think?

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: Rattler
Date: 05 Mar 06 - 06:47 PM

Back to the 70's; this means smaller, un-weatherproof tents, inflationary beer prices, expensive 12" vinyl which is difficult to carry home by bus or hitch-hiking universal smoking. Would we want to go back there? If we knew then what we know now, yes, I'd go back! Anyway, what's cheaper now? videos, computers, kettles, A4 paper, imigrant labourers. Yes, I'd still go back.

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 05 Mar 06 - 06:57 PM

MICHAEL COONEY would be at the top of any list I'd make---for the '70 AND also for the '80s.

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: Leadfingers
Date: 05 Mar 06 - 06:58 PM

Steve Turner - back after a long absence , Miles Wootton ( still lurking in Brighton ) and Pete Atkin (BBC radio Four Producer )!!
   And I would do a Whistle Workshop if nothing else !!

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Mar 06 - 07:59 PM

If you look through the web sites, you can find lots of festivals that are doing this already, or to be exact never stopped doing it. Really. Have a look around and see how many festival and club guest lists could have been billed 30 or more years ago!

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: Little Robyn
Date: 06 Mar 06 - 01:31 AM

Ray Fisher
Archie, her brother
The High Level Ranters
Jez Lowe
Waterson Carthy
Paul Metsers
Vin Garbutt
Lots more. But NZ is too far away and unless I win the Lotto, I won't be there.
Robyn

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: Rasener
Date: 06 Mar 06 - 01:45 AM

Martyn Wyndham-Reid
John Conolly

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 06 Mar 06 - 05:13 AM

Go for it, Forsh. Brill idea. And don't forget Shirley Collins -

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: Emma B
Date: 06 Mar 06 - 06:02 AM

I've just been listening to the CD "Never the Same - Leave-taking from the British Folk Revival 1970-1977" featuring
Lal Waterson
Nic Jones
Dorothy Elliot
Alistair Anderson
Dick Gaughan
Dave Burland
Aly Bain
The Boys of the Lough
Tony Rose

it comes with extensive notes and some great nostalgic photographs of Ray Fisher, Bert Lloyd, Anne Briggs etc

There are many singers and muscians from the 70s we will unfortunately never hear again but I would love to celebrate those still amongst us.

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: Rasener
Date: 06 Mar 06 - 06:13 AM

Derek Brimstone
Harvey Andrews

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 06 Mar 06 - 06:26 AM

Tannahill Weavers
Houghton Weavers
John Foreman
Bully Wee Band
Eddie Walker
Martin Wyndham-Reid
Adrian May.
Gary & Vera Aspey
Fred Wedlock (but not anywhere close to Miles Wootton).

Don't know how many of these still exist, but they were all bill toppers in the 70s.

Don T.

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: ksloan
Date: 06 Mar 06 - 06:45 AM

Maggie Holland :)

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 06 Mar 06 - 10:50 AM

To reiterate:

If you want one main person who can represent all aspects of the USA folk revival, as he was called by one wag once, "He is a One Man Folk Festival unto himself". That statement is, from my point of view, completely accurate.

MICHAEL COONEY would be your man!!! Michael, entertainingly and masterfully, instrumentally and authentically, can represent just about any era of America's music---and I include Canada in there.

He is definitely worth transporting across the big pond.

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: Dave Sutherland
Date: 06 Mar 06 - 01:24 PM

Local names who would have been appearing at North East Festivals in the Seventies (Hexham, Durham, Tynemouth, Redcar, Newcastle) would have included The Fettlers, Vin Garbutt, The High Level Ranters, Ray Fisher, Hedgehog Pie, Pigmeat, Jim Sharpe, Pegleg Ferret, Bob Davenport and the Marsden Rattlers, Bernie Parry, Eddie Walker, Pete Betts, Pete Scott and Hendon Banks. I know sadly some of those are no longer with us but they were the festival names of that time.

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 06 Mar 06 - 01:33 PM

"don't get any media coverage because of ageism and changing fashion"

I'll wager that's not why they don't get attention...

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: Little Robyn
Date: 06 Mar 06 - 01:40 PM

Don't forget Lou Killen or Frankie Armstrong.
Then there's Packie Byrne and Bonnie Shaljean. (Hi Bonnie.)
Has anyone mentioned Allan Taylor or Rosemary Hardman?
Also Cilla Fisher and a wealth of other Scottish singers like Adam McNaughton.
So many lovely people!
Robyn

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 06 Mar 06 - 03:00 PM

Would we have to drink as much as we did then?

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Mar 06 - 03:01 PM

Well then I win Clinton. You're suggesting it's because they ain't good enough? I suggest you don't know enough about the UK scene to comment any more than I know the US scene. Many of those names listed above are below the parapet of media attention but anyone who knows their work also knows they can play and sing the socks off an awful lot of media darlings.

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: Forsh
Date: 06 Mar 06 - 04:39 PM

Thanks to everyone for their sugestions, but who would come? Northumberland, either Mid June 2007 or late August 2007?
Cheers,
Forsh

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: Emma B
Date: 06 Mar 06 - 04:55 PM

Great idea Forsh - depends on the date: there are so many festivals around that time and many artists already booked up.

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Mar 06 - 05:25 PM

Silas/Crows/Mick Ryan & Jon Burge might be up for it...
Presumably the fees would reflect the turn of the new century!!!
(Don't think I could get up there for season tickets and a camping permit!)
Good Luck anyway Ralphie

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: GUEST,bobcat
Date: 06 Mar 06 - 05:52 PM

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: GUEST,bobcat
Date: 06 Mar 06 - 06:06 PM

don't forget English Tapestry, Vulcan's Hammer.
My favourites from then would include Martin Wyndham-Read, Dave Burland the Waterstones, Nic Jones, Tony Rose,High Level Ranters....but hey many of these are still heading the festivals (which is great) and we should be encouraging young ones to keep the music and traditions going- Devils Interval,Ben Harker and Emily Wey, The Witches of Elswick and the many others who are involved in the tradition.A balanced festival should reflect this.
In the north, in the cities, there is a healthy interest from the student population and they are coming to our local folk clubs in droves to SING and PLAY.
I would love a festival which was a trip down memory lane but folk music is all about about being involed and if we want the music to go on then no festival should exclude artists on the grounds of their youth.

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: shepherdlass
Date: 06 Mar 06 - 06:25 PM

I'd definitely like to go to this. Dave S and Little Robyn have given some excellent suggestions for local performers. Sticking with the NE connection, maybe you could also get Geordie ex-pat Bob Davenport up from London? Bob Fox (solo or reunited with Stu Luckley) springs to mind. And how about Anthony Robb on pipes? Carolyn Robson might even up the gender balance a bit. Also there are the various surviving members of Lindisfarne (and Maxie and Mitch, for that matter).

Good luck with this - it's a great idea. Should we bring our own lava lamps?

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: vectis
Date: 06 Mar 06 - 06:28 PM

Matt Armour
Red Sullivan (gone alas)
Joe Stead
Peggy Seeger

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: shepherdlass
Date: 06 Mar 06 - 06:37 PM

By the way, just to reiterate what I've said in previous threads: I'd be really grateful if anyone (performers or listeners or organizers or ... anyone!!!) with memories of the folk scene in the NE of England from the 1950s through the 1970s (at least till 1975 or 6) would PM me. Hope to hear from some of you.

Thanks
Jude

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: Compton
Date: 06 Mar 06 - 09:06 PM

Can we all wear aran jumpers, long hair and beards (and the men!!) and carry pint tankards on our belts.
(Especially if you are an accountant)...for thats how it was...or was that the sixties??

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: Leadfingers
Date: 06 Mar 06 - 09:54 PM

I hate to admit it , but I STILL have long hair and a beard , AND a belt loop for my tankard , though its a while since I wore any of my Aran Sweaters .

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 07 Mar 06 - 01:32 AM

How about something for the dancers? Flowers and Frolics, Umps and Dumps, the Blue Mountain Band, The Old Swan Band, Blowzabella.

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Mar 06 - 02:08 AM

Will there be Watney's Red Barrel?

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Mar 06 - 04:29 AM

Clinton asks "Why look back?".

This is FOLK music we are talking about isn't it? Am I missing something here? :-)

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: Forsh
Date: 10 Mar 06 - 07:15 PM

Great to hear from you all, including those who jumped in after my last entry, ... I DO check back! I have spoke to Joe Stead & Jerremy Taylor (via agent) so far, and mentioed it to Vin G, who thought it was a good idea. Shepherdlass get back to me! Any More from you catters b4 I kill this thread off?
PS: arran jumper & Pewter Tankard for sale.

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: cptsnapper
Date: 10 Mar 06 - 11:49 PM

Decameron, Dave Paskett, Anne Lennox- Martin, Magna Carta

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: stallion
Date: 11 Mar 06 - 02:30 AM

yes, thank god for central heating, the death knell of the Arran! Although my spelling isn't great, it should be the Irish spelling. I see Bobcat chickened out of Emily's surname, it sounds like Weygang but I don't think it is spelt like that. Insofar as the Brit folk scene goes it has always been an anethema (supose I shouldn't use words I can't spell!) to me, it is such a broad church, with such a variety styles but under the roots it is hardly fashionable, so the entertainers of the 70's, although being thinned by the machine gun of time, are still around, some are performing some are not, they are hardly news worthy but still have a following of "diehards", these are the people that Ben and Emily were inspired by (don't box my ears Em. if i got it wrong)and have been "leading the line", in thirty years time I hope the young un's will be having similiar dialogues.

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: Diva
Date: 11 Mar 06 - 11:04 AM

Brilliant Idea......don't forget Canny Fettle and the wonderful George Welch. And if you were casting the next a wee bit wider what about Sheila Stewart? Still singing up a storm and teling magic stories and soon to be an author
Kathy

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: Northerner
Date: 11 Mar 06 - 11:29 AM

Some of these do still perform. In the last 2-3 years I've seen Vin Garbutt (several times, as he's a local lad), Martyn Wyndham-Read, Bob Davenport, Louis Killen, Sheila Stewart, and Derek and Dorothy Elliot. Does Bernard Wrigley still go in there (even if Nellie the Elephant IS part of his repertoire)? And of course, Marie Little.   Really, really want to catch Norman Kennedy again... And Ray Fisher...

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: GUEST,JC
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 07:41 AM

70's? wasn't it all coming to an end then? what about 50's 60's when all the real work was being done for the folk revival?

:-)

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: GUEST,JC
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 07:59 AM

thought that the Micklewood Village at Longhirst Hall near Morpeth would make a good folk festival/retreat venue prices not bad either.

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: GUEST,bobcat
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 06:54 PM

Sorry I got Emily's name werong...should be Emily Weyregg. Thanks to stallion for pointing this out.
Certainly add Bob Fox to the list...probably end up as the ultimate dream fest...but as I said earlier there are plenty of younger folk keeping the tradition going..many of whom are influenced by folk from the late sixties and seventies(pre electric days)BUT if such a gathering happens I'll be there!!!

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 07:12 PM

I love the idea of a 70's fest, but the artists shouldn't sing their current repertoire, they should sing the songs that were in their sets then or were the current favourites in the clubs.
"Hey Sandy", "Cursed Anna". I'm sure you have total recall if you were around then. You could have a 60's fest with the songs everyone was singing at that time, it's easy to do the research, but there would be no point just booking the acts to do what they do now, that would just be another festival.
If folk means anything it means preserving the best of the past and there was a lot of great stuff back then that the young don't know and don't seem to care about. Time for a revival I say.
And no cheap ageist jibes about clothes, fashions, etc please. It's been said before.

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 01:55 PM

I suppose so..........Jack Hudson, Mad Jocks, Hot Vultures, Pete Quin......but as you say so many dead or retired people its a bit depressing.

no Gerry Lockran, no Nic Jones, no Cosmotheka, no Bob williamson, no Dave Turner, no Brownsville Banned, no Ewan MacColl.

Come to think of it, I'm a bit poorly....I don't reckon it could be the same.

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: shepherdlass
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 01:03 PM

You could always bring the late (or injured) greats into the 'noughties with a club night of recorded music, so long as you have an imaginative and sympathetic DJ at the turntables. Just think of what Gilles Peterson has been doing with recordings of the jazz greats.

Subject: RE: A 70's FOLK FEST? wot u think?
From: Forsh
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 03:26 PM

Yep, the idea is to get them oldies to do the sets that they used to do in the 70's. I dunno if this will come off, but I am on it, Jerremy Taylor, Pete Quin, Pos Vin, Pos Harvey, (Hi Harvey, I will Get Round to you soon!)