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The Ouzel Galley (Dublin ship of 1600's)

MARINER 06 Mar 06 - 06:18 PM
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Subject: The Ouzel Galley
From: MARINER
Date: 06 Mar 06 - 06:18 PM

I am doing some research into the Ouzel Galley. a Dublin ship of the 1600s . I have been told that there is a ballad about her but have been unable to trace it. Can anyone help?


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Subject: RE: The Ouzel Galley
From: MartinRyan
Date: 07 Mar 06 - 04:45 AM

Mariner

I had a copy of it years ago - from Eddie Doyle of the Goilin, if I remember rightly. I'll check my files in the hopes its still there. A quick call to the ITMA is the other alternative?

Regards

p.s. More generally, I think there is at least one small book on the incident - which ITMA may hve or know of.


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Subject: RE: The Ouzel Galley
From: MARINER
Date: 07 Mar 06 - 05:35 PM

Thanks for the tip Martin . I have a fair bit of detail about the Ouzel Galley and the reason she became famous, but the song has escaped me so far. If you have it in your files I would appreciate a copy.


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Subject: RE: The Ouzel Galley (Dublin ship of 1600's)
From: MartinRyan
Date: 08 Mar 06 - 04:39 AM

A first look failed to find it - but then the ship was missing for years!

Regards


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Subject: RE: The Ouzel Galley (Dublin ship of 1600's)
From: Paul Burke
Date: 08 Mar 06 - 05:26 AM

I would have thought the Ouzel was a canal boat, named after the Gong Ouzel, so often seen perched on lock balance beams.


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Subject: RE: The Ouzel Galley (Dublin ship of 1600's)
From: MARINER
Date: 08 Mar 06 - 05:49 AM

No Paul, the Ouzel Galley appears to have been an armed merchantman .She left Dublin and went missing. After three years she was considered lost. However, after being gone for five years she showed up again in Dublin , battle worn and laden with booty . The crew told of their adventures which included being captured by pirates and forced to take part in various raids etc. How true the tales were nobody knows. In fact their whole trip is still shrouded by mystery . One theory is that they just went off "pirating" themselves and came home when the holds were full of treasures .

In the end the crew gained nothing from their endevours as the courts decided that the money raised from the booty be put into a fund for the support of poor merchants. (It went to the courts because the insurance companies had paid out to the owners for the loss of their ship and, I suppose, they wanted their money back.)


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Subject: RE: The Ouzel Galley (Dublin ship of 1600's)
From: MartinRyan
Date: 08 Mar 06 - 05:50 AM

MARINER

Beware of crossword addicts, bearing gifts!

Regards


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Subject: RE: The Ouzel Galley (Dublin ship of 1600's)
From: MartinRyan
Date: 05 Apr 06 - 11:33 AM

Got it! I'll transcribe it over the next few days, when I get a chance.

Regards

p.s. Mariner: I also found Eddy's covering letter - in which he mentions that it's in "Songs of the Wexford Coast"! You may well have discovered that by now!


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Subject: RE: The Ouzel Galley (Dublin ship of 1600's)
From: MARINER
Date: 05 Apr 06 - 12:22 PM

God, Martin I feel a right Gom! Ihad songs of the Wexford Coast beside me as I read your post. Opened at page 113 and there it was. But I'm not too bad ,a friend who is also looking for that song worked for the publishers of the book and also bound it. And he forgot it was there too. Thanks for the tip Martin , now any chance of an air for it?


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Subject: RE: The Ouzel Galley (Dublin ship of 1600's)
From: MartinRyan
Date: 05 Apr 06 - 05:06 PM

I'm not sure that I ever heard Eddie sing it - I think I was interested in it for other reasons at the time. I'll see what I can find out.

Regards


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Subject: RE: The Ouzel Galley (Dublin ship of 1600's)
From: MartinRyan
Date: 08 Apr 06 - 04:42 PM

Mariner:

Talked to a few people in the Goilin last night. Looks like Eddie was the only one known to sing it - and nobody can recall what tune he used, not to mention where it came from. He hasn't been involved in the club for a good few years now.

I meet Eddie occasionally, when in Dublin, and will ask him about it next time.

Regards


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Subject: RE: The Ouzel Galley (Dublin ship of 1600's)
From: MARINER
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 01:12 PM

Thanks Martin . Hope you make Cobh this coming summer ,perhaps I can get the air from you then?


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Subject: RE: The Ouzel Galley (Dublin ship of 1600's)
From: MartinRyan
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 04:45 PM

The plan, at the moment, is indeed to make Cobh - having missed it last year. Whether I'll have seen Eddie and picked up the tune by then is another matter - but, sure, we'll have lots to talk about anyway!

Regards


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Subject: RE: The Ouzel Galley (Dublin ship of 1600's)
From: MartinRyan
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 04:59 PM

Getting back to Paul Burke's comment earlier: as it happens, he-of-whom-we-speak lives on a house boat on a canal!

Regards


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Subject: RE: The Ouzel Galley (Dublin ship of 1600's)
From: GUEST,Tony
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 04:37 PM

Hi Mariner and others, i've been looking for The Songs of the Wexford Coast and came across your thread. Apparently the front cover has a picture of my Great Grandfather on it - Captain Thomas 'Lanigan' Walsh. I would dearly like a scan if anybody could assist

Thanks
Tony


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Subject: RE: The Ouzel Galley (Dublin ship of 1600's)
From: MartinRyan
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 04:49 PM

Tony

Athlone? Antiques?

There is indeed a photograph of Lanigan Walsh on the frontispiece of the book (mine is a paperback 1975 reprint).I'll try to organise a scan. - keep an eye on the thread and we'll organise something.

Regards


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Subject: RE: The Ouzel Galley (Dublin ship of 1600's)
From: MARINER
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 05:32 PM

Hi Tony, That's correct, there is a ,now well known , photo of Thomas "Lanigan" Walsh in the front piece of "Songs of the Wexford Coast" I have some others of him as well . My scanner is out of action at the moment , but I'll try to get them to you later. ( I am a local maritime historian and by coincidence another one of Lanigan's numerous great grandchildren is my next door neighbour.)


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Subject: RE: The Ouzel Galley (Dublin ship of 1600's)
From: MartinRyan
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 05:43 PM

I'll leave it to you, Mariner - since you clearly have some other material of interest to Tony.

Regards

p.s. Was just checking on Cobh this morning - seems to be the weekend AFTER the Bank Holiday, this year. Hoping to get there.


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Subject: RE: The Ouzel Galley (Dublin ship of 1600's)
From: GUEST,Tony
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 06:14 PM

Hi Martin and Mariner,
So excited, thanks to you both, Mariner, would love an intoduction to your neighbour, here is what i know about Thomas 'Lanigan' Walsh, if it's of interest in your field of interest?

About Walsh, Thomas (Lannigan), Captain
Capt Thomas Walsh known as "Lannigan" by everyone. Born in 3 William Street, Wexford. Often described as "the father of Wexford`s sailors". Son of Captain James Walsh (who died of fever onboard the Barque "Kate" of which he was skipper). Lannigan 1st went to see at the age of thirteen and a half and finished at sea at the age of 68 years. Attained Master Mariners Certificate at the age of 21. His 1st command was he "Rambler". Sailed as Master on fifty three vessels some were: Ellen Kerr, Jane McCall, Yarra Yarra, Agnes Carty, Wave, Clare, Elizabeth Worthington, Mary Agnes. The last vessel he sailed on was the "A. Hastings" a two masted schooner. He never lost a ship. A genial companion he took a keen interest in current affairs and enjoyed excellent health until an accident when he was hit by a vehicle and fractured his leg. He appeared on the front cover of a book called "Songs of the Wexford Coast" in which he contributed a number of shanties. He was the oldest member of the Holy Family Confraternity being a Gold Jubilarian. He had 48 grandchildren and 53 Great Grandchildren. He was the father of 10 sons and three daughters. At one time he was a commander in the Wexford fleet of sailing ships known as the "Galatzmen" whose epic races home from the Black Sea with grain and cargoes were as famous in those days as those of the China clippers. Blackbeared Captain Walsh was the holder of the coveted Square rigged Masters certificate. A hard driving fearless navigator of the days of wooden ships and "iron men"

I believe the nickname Lanigan came from the fact that a well known Dublin singer 'Lanigan' failed to turn up for a "do" in Wexford and Thomas Walsh stepped in forever earning himself the name of 'Lannigan'

Would love to hear more, and if i can help in any way with your interests just let me know.

My email address is mjahurley (replace next with @) yahoo.co.uk, forgive the odd address, but i'm sure you know about scams harvesting sites for e-mail addresses.

Really looking forward to hearing from you both, and thanks ever so much again.

Best wishes
Tony


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Subject: RE: The Ouzel Galley (Dublin ship of 1600's)
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 27 Apr 06 - 09:35 AM

Tony

You can ignore the cryptic references to Athlone and antiques in an earlier post of mine! By other channels, I had received a similar request a few years ago and wondered if it was the same person!

I'm sure MARINER will look after you - no better man!

Regards


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Subject: The ship---Gift of God---1600's
From: GUEST,Bettye
Date: 04 May 06 - 05:57 PM

Does anyone know of the sailing ship "Gift of God" which sailed in the 1600's.

I have found only one referace to this ship in the 1930's publication "Pioneers on Maine Rivers".

One researcher at one time said my original Joshua Proctor ancestor came to this side of the pond on this ship. Both exact date (+/- 1650), embarkation, and arrival ports unknown.

ANY clue will be more than I have now!!!
Thanks!
Bettye
pepperjaq@comcast.net


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Subject: RE: The Ouzel Galley (Dublin ship of 1600's)
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 05 May 06 - 01:43 PM

Bettye I have sent you an email with information on the vessel you were interested in.

Yours, Aye. Dave


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Subject: RE: The Ouzel Galley (Dublin ship of 1600's)
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Nov 11 - 03:55 PM

"That's correct, there is a ,now well known , photo of Thomas "Lanigan" Walsh in the front piece of "Songs of the Wexford Coast" I have some others of him as well . My scanner is out of action at the moment , but I'll try to get them to you later. ( I am a local maritime historian and by coincidence another one of Lanigan's numerous great grandchildren is my next door neighbour.)"

copied from a message sent. am also a descendat - by marriage. is it possible to also get copies of the pictures that you have of Lanigan Walsh. (my grandfather-in-law was James Walsh, son of Lanigan
thank you


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Subject: RE: The Ouzel Galley (Dublin ship of 1600's)
From: MartinRyan
Date: 20 Nov 11 - 12:06 PM

There is now a (colour-retouched?) copy of the photo online:

Click here

Regards


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Subject: RE: The Ouzel Galley (Dublin ship of 1600's)
From: GUEST,Paul O'Brien
Date: 08 Dec 11 - 05:16 AM

I just released my new CD "Port to Port" with an eight and a half minute song about the Ouzel galley saga.

you can read the lyrics HERE

Paul

----------------------- Link added. Mudelf.-----------------


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Subject: RE: The Ouzel Galley (Dublin ship of 1600's)
From: Charley Noble
Date: 08 Dec 11 - 08:13 AM

Paul-

Thanks for your lyrics and notes. An excellent song to while away the winter evenings.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: The Ouzel Galley (Dublin ship of 1600's)
From: MartinRyan
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 08:58 AM

The redoubtable Luke Cheevers, of Ringsend and the Goilin Singers Club in Dublin, composed a ballad on the Ouzel Galley incident a few years ago as part of a songwriting project, using the "Morrissey and the Rooshian Sailor" air. Just came across a video of it:

Click here

Regards


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Subject: RE: The Ouzel Galley (Dublin ship of 1600's)
From: GUEST,Mrs Flannery
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 03:26 PM

It was very nice to unexpectedly fall upon that tit bit Martin ,Is Big Jack Mariner still still in Menapialand ?
Thank you , Louis O Dwyer


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Subject: RE: The Ouzel Galley (Dublin ship of 1600's)
From: MartinRyan
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 03:37 PM

Haven't bumped into Jack lately. He still posts here occasionally - last was just before Christmas.

Regards


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