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BS: HP Sauce

Rasener 23 Mar 06 - 02:20 AM
Bert 22 Mar 06 - 09:44 PM
Peace 22 Mar 06 - 06:12 PM
MMario 22 Mar 06 - 03:25 PM
Stilly River Sage 22 Mar 06 - 03:20 PM
Dave the Gnome 22 Mar 06 - 04:26 AM
Peace 21 Mar 06 - 08:36 PM
Big Al Whittle 21 Mar 06 - 07:40 PM
Peace 21 Mar 06 - 05:22 PM
Clinton Hammond 21 Mar 06 - 05:21 PM
Peace 21 Mar 06 - 04:41 PM
Peace 21 Mar 06 - 01:22 PM
Clinton Hammond 21 Mar 06 - 01:22 PM
Peace 21 Mar 06 - 01:21 PM
Clinton Hammond 21 Mar 06 - 01:11 PM
MMario 21 Mar 06 - 10:44 AM
clueless don 21 Mar 06 - 10:41 AM
Peace 20 Mar 06 - 11:40 AM
Clinton Hammond 20 Mar 06 - 11:37 AM
MMario 20 Mar 06 - 11:35 AM
Peace 20 Mar 06 - 11:31 AM
Rasener 20 Mar 06 - 11:27 AM
Clinton Hammond 20 Mar 06 - 11:15 AM
Peace 20 Mar 06 - 10:37 AM
MMario 20 Mar 06 - 10:35 AM
Peace 20 Mar 06 - 10:26 AM
Rasener 20 Mar 06 - 08:55 AM
The Fooles Troupe 20 Mar 06 - 07:42 AM
Strollin' Johnny 20 Mar 06 - 06:57 AM
Catherine Jayne 20 Mar 06 - 01:59 AM
Seamus Kennedy 20 Mar 06 - 01:42 AM
Stilly River Sage 19 Mar 06 - 11:42 PM
Clinton Hammond 19 Mar 06 - 11:40 PM
Seamus Kennedy 19 Mar 06 - 07:05 PM
The Fooles Troupe 19 Mar 06 - 06:07 PM
Rasener 19 Mar 06 - 05:43 PM
Clinton Hammond 19 Mar 06 - 04:34 PM
Peace 19 Mar 06 - 04:16 PM
Seamus Kennedy 19 Mar 06 - 04:09 PM
Clinton Hammond 19 Mar 06 - 03:33 PM
GUEST 19 Mar 06 - 03:30 PM
scouse 19 Mar 06 - 04:18 AM
Joe Offer 19 Mar 06 - 03:10 AM
michaelr 19 Mar 06 - 03:02 AM
The Fooles Troupe 18 Mar 06 - 11:38 PM
The Fooles Troupe 18 Mar 06 - 08:58 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Rasener
Date: 23 Mar 06 - 02:20 AM

Cheeky bugger LOL :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Bert
Date: 22 Mar 06 - 09:44 PM

In England it's Wooster sauce.
Now getting back to HP sauce. If Villain is proud of it along with being proud of Aston Villa that doesn't say too much for poor ol' HP sauce.


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Peace
Date: 22 Mar 06 - 06:12 PM

Next they'll be putting beer in bottles. Like, what's THAT about?


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: MMario
Date: 22 Mar 06 - 03:25 PM

Now waitaminute! Did someone say "squeeze bottle"????? Isn't that going a bit too far? Some things just shouldn't be meddled with.


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Mar 06 - 03:20 PM

Mario,

Out west in Washington where I learned to use the sauce we pronounced it "Wurster-sure" keeping the "shire" intact but slighly slurred.

;-D


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 Mar 06 - 04:26 AM

No-one ever needs sauce, Clinton, but it's nice to have. Kind of like folk music and obstreperous Canadians...

:D (tG)


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Peace
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 08:36 PM

Regular or the fruity kind?


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 07:40 PM

I think it was probably a mistake to have faith in HP sauce to start off with.

An HP sauce apostate.......the chances of finding a support group are minimal.

Time to face future bravely: that means everything; the new label and the squeezy bottle.

Now might be a good time - its on offer at Somerfield this week.


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Peace
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 05:22 PM

You're back to being your loving, warm self. Good to see.


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 05:21 PM

I was just trying to be as predictable as you are...


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Peace
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 04:41 PM

"You certainly are...."

I KNEW you'd say that.


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Peace
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 01:22 PM

%)__<>>.

Howzat?


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 01:22 PM

You certainly are....


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Peace
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 01:21 PM

Well, I'm tryin'.


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 01:11 PM

"How's that?"

It doesn't look like anything...


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: MMario
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 10:44 AM

I'm glad there are other warped minds - Was I the only one who saw the thread title and thought - 'Oh, Harry Potter as an alcoholic!"


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: clueless don
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 10:41 AM

Oh shucks, you mean this isn't another Harry Potter thread?

Don


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Peace
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 11:40 AM

"Then use smilies, like everyone else on the internet.... that's what they're for! :-P"

;;I;;

How's that?


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 11:37 AM

" It was meant jocularly, Clinton."

Then use smilies, like everyone else on the internet.... that's what they're for! :-P

"Is nothing sacred anymore?"
I hope not :-|


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: MMario
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 11:35 AM

?? never heard that - but commonly hear 'woost-ur-sheer' or in massachusetts 'woost-ah-sheer'


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Peace
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 11:31 AM

LOL

It was meant jocularly, Clinton. I love HP Sauce. Even after the change of recipe and label.

Reminded me of a commercial for some sorta barbeque sauce: They used

Bar-bar-bar-bar-bar-be-que, bar-bar-bar-bar-bar-be-que--and all I could think was, "Is nothing sacred anymore?"

Incidentally, it's Worcestershire Sauce. There's no 'h' in it. Or 'p' either for that matter.


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Rasener
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 11:27 AM

Just to help on this discussion I have copied and pasted this article from a Birmingham website.

Worcester Sauce

Worcestershire Sauce was brought back from India by Lord Marcus Sandys, ex-Governor of Bengal, who gave it to two local chemists, John Lea and William Perrins, with an order for a large batch to be made up from his recipe. A few weeks later he returned to pick up the sauce, only to proclaim upon sampling some that it tasted filthy and was nothing like how it should be, and left in disgust.

Nothing more was thought of this until the chemists discovered it at the back of their stores a few months later, and they decided to give it just one more try before tipping it down the drain. To their surprise, the foul-tasting anchovy broth, after being left to ferment, had matured into an interesting spicy condiment, and they immediately purchased the recipe from Lord Marcus. So thanks to this chance retasting,1838 saw the UK's best-known sauce launched, and the name of Worcestershire Sauce (originally called just Worcester Sauce), has spread to be mispronounced by many a foreigner in every corner of this spherical world.

In the UK, Worcestershire is pronounced 'woost-ur-shire' and Worcestershire Sauce is referred to as 'Worcester Sauce', pronounced 'woos-tah'. In many other parts of the world, however, it is referred to as 'War-sest-uh-shire' Sauce.


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 11:15 AM

"They changed the recipe at the same time they changed the label."

So... maybe... just maybe they changed it for the better....   

What exactly are 'folkies' so afraid of, that they think that all change is bad?


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Peace
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 10:37 AM

Yep to that here, Mario. My grandmom said it that way--she was English. The merest hint of 'sh' on the end of 'wooster'.


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: MMario
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 10:35 AM

back to pronunciations!

"Worchester" = 'wooster', correct?

and you are telling me "worchestershire" is also pronounced 'wooster'?    the "shire" is silent in its entirety?


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Peace
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 10:26 AM

Clinton, Clinton, Clinton: They changed the recipe at the same time they changed the label.


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Rasener
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 08:55 AM

I'll go back home then Strolli' :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 07:42 AM

"... traditions change.... ALL traditions change.... "

This year we are going to perform Handel's Messiah on tin whistle and bagpipes, with the Vienna Boys Choir, as arranged by Phillip Glass.


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 06:57 AM

It's the only good thing that ever came out of Brummagem! :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 01:59 AM

Foolestroupe....I work for a company that supplies HP, and Lea and Perrins and the ingredients we suppy are top quality....just to put your mind at rest!


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 01:42 AM

SRS, sorry - 'haute'.
Anybody know the rest?

Seamus


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Mar 06 - 11:42 PM

Hate or Haute?


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 19 Mar 06 - 11:40 PM

"The French on the label was 'tradition'"

Suck it up... traditions change.... ALL traditions change....


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 19 Mar 06 - 07:05 PM

I used to have that French bit memorised!:

"Cette sauce de hate qualité est un mélange fruits orienteaux, des épices, et de vinaigre de malt."

There's more, but I've forgotten it.

Anyone?

Seamus


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 19 Mar 06 - 06:07 PM

The French on the label was 'tradition' destroyed by some stupid arrogant ignorant marketing weasel. If the company cared that little about the image of its product, would they care about the taste, or the quality of the ingredients?


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Rasener
Date: 19 Mar 06 - 05:43 PM

How dare people confuse Worcester Sauce with HP sauce.

As a Brummy, we were proud of our HP Sauce, M&B Mild, Ansells Bitter, Cadburys Chocolate, GEC, British Leyland, Aston Villa, The Rotunda (which my brothet heped to build), Spaghetti Junction, The Brummies Speedway Team, Birchfield Harriers (one of the finest athletic clubs - my father ran for them, and should have gone to the olympics, which his parents couldn't afford, so he didn't go (major diapointment for him), Warwickshire Cricket Club, Jasper Carrot (but not his crap B'ham City :-) ), The Bullring.

Ah those were the days when work was plenty and Brum was a thriving city. Get very dispondant when I go back now.

Better come back to reality at Market Rasen where the grass is green, the air fresh and bugger all to do except for going to great folk clubs such as Gainborough and Market Rasen. :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 19 Mar 06 - 04:34 PM

Do you judge book by their covers too?


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Peace
Date: 19 Mar 06 - 04:16 PM

I lost faith in HP Sauce when they changed the label.


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 19 Mar 06 - 04:09 PM

I grew up on the stuff, and I love it.
In fact, I just finished a chicken and HP sammitch.
When I was a kid we had HP and bread and butter sammitches.

Seamus


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 19 Mar 06 - 03:33 PM

"Sure sounds like A1 sauce to me"

HP beat A1 hands down in my book... but I wouldn't put either of them on a good cut of meat...

For that matter... if you aren't a total mess, and can cook a good slab of meat even half way decently, it shouldn't NEED any sauce.....


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Mar 06 - 03:30 PM

"Cette sauce de haute qualite est un melange d'epice, des fruits orienteux et..."
Does anyone else remember whwn they had the ingredients listed in French on the label? as a compulsive reader I was fascinated by this as a child.


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: scouse
Date: 19 Mar 06 - 04:18 AM

Bought Hp up in the backwoods of Sweden, and all over Denmark but here the dear Ol' "Cloggies." in the Netherlands still seem to prefere Tomato sauce from Heinz..People in the supermarkets look at you strange when you ask for HP, As Aye, Scouse..


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Mar 06 - 03:10 AM

I wouldn't trust Wikipedia for everything, but their article on HP Sauce is interesting. And you can get it animated at HP Foods.
Sure sounds like A1 sauce to me.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: michaelr
Date: 19 Mar 06 - 03:02 AM

HP, A-1, Wooster - it's all basically the same flavor type. Anchovies optional, I guess.

I use a bit in recipes at times, but I sure don't like it glopped on my steak.

Cheers,
Michael


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 18 Mar 06 - 11:38 PM

Tamarind is the slightly bitter taste in both "'Wooster'-type" sauces and HP.


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 18 Mar 06 - 08:58 PM

HP Sauce is a 'British Thing' - it come in square sided bottles, and we only have it in Aus cause of our historical connections.


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: DougR
Date: 18 Mar 06 - 07:59 PM

I assume HP is a sauce that is used to flavor steaks, roasts, other types of meat? Is it applied to the meat before, or after, cooking? I've never heard of HP sauce.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: number 6
Date: 18 Mar 06 - 05:12 PM

HP ... Luv it!!

BTW, for those Canucks that are fans of HP, I suggest that you can save $1.00 a bottle buy purchasing President's Choice Steak Sauce ... it is HP made by the Canadian Company E.D. Smith ... who happens to have the HP manufacturing licence here in Canada.

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Mar 06 - 03:24 PM

Our affectionate name for the sauce is "What's-It-Shit Sauce."


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Subject: RE: BS: HP Sauce
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 18 Mar 06 - 02:46 PM

HP isn't Worcester sauce. Totally different beast. And yes, it's 'wooster-sher', not 'werchester-shyre' as I heard one American refer to it. It made I larff! :-) :-)


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