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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: leeneia Date: 16 Sep 22 - 12:17 PM What I use to make a travelling music book: small, tough book That's the easy part. The complicated part is buying and learning the music program (I use Noteworthy Composer) which prints music that fits on a 3 x 5 card. |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: leeneia Date: 16 Sep 22 - 12:12 PM On another topic - thanks for bringing this lovely melody to my attention. I have printed it out for my travelling music book, and I'll be playing it on recorder on a mountainside some day. |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: RunrigFan Date: 15 Sep 22 - 06:19 PM we all know that Come by the Hills has is derived from a Gaelic work. However, the words you reproduced, which have already been included in other places are the copyright work of the late W. Gordon Smith who died in 1996 - you credited the performer "as performed by..." as if they were performing a trad variant, but didn't credit the true modern writer. - Look up inlays in cassettes/cd/vinyl. Did I even say they were a trad variant? No I didn't. The fact is the album in question is credited (know what that means) as Trad. Don't pass the buck on me dear. Do you throw your arms when many releases that has a Robert Burns songs or songs with known writers are credited as trad, arr or arranged by said artist. More things to worry then about petty things, No matter if someone varies the lyric with a word change here and there, it always remains the copyright of the original writer. - Dur Sherlock. Of course. But I didn't say if some lyric were changed a bit the copyright wasn't the rights of the writer. If you look at my message; I didn't say such a thing. If no such writer are credited; how the hell am I going to know W. Gordon Smith wrote the song. If someone who may not be familiar with Folk Music and they had a release that said trad, would you belittle them because they are not familiar with said song. The words will be in UK copyright until 2066, though many take the whole work as being trad. due to the use of the old Gaelic tune from which that side is derived. W. Gordon Smith wrote a wholly original lyric as 'Come By The Hills'. His English lyric has nothing whatsoever to do with the Gaelic one, and the origins of the Gaelic work has its own thread. W. Gordon Smith was a playwright, songwriter, TV producer, journalist and folk record producer who worked with the Corries etc. - Again not something I asked but thanks. |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: Jack Campin Date: 02 Feb 21 - 02:28 AM Biographical note about W. Gordon Smith as art collector: https://www.thenational.scot/news/19053315.lasting-legacy-w-gordon-smith-wife-jay/ |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: GUEST,Rossey Date: 09 Jan 21 - 12:02 AM we all know that Come by the Hills has is derived from a Gaelic work. However, the words you reproduced, which have already been included in other places are the copyright work of the late W. Gordon Smith who died in 1996 - you credited the performer "as performed by..." as if they were performing a trad variant, but didn't credit the true modern writer. No matter if someone varies the lyric with a word change here and there, it always remains the copyright of the original writer. The words will be in UK copyright until 2066, though many take the whole work as being trad. due to the use of the old Gaelic tune from which that side is derived. W. Gordon Smith wrote a wholly original lyric as 'Come By The Hills'. His English lyric has nothing whatsoever to do with the Gaelic one, and the origins of the Gaelic work has its own thread. W. Gordon Smith was a playwright, songwriter, TV producer, journalist and folk record producer who worked with the Corries etc. |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: RunrigFan Date: 06 Jan 21 - 01:20 PM Anne Lorne gillies info https://www.discogs.com/image/R-9269266-1489265187-7714.jpeg |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: RunrigFan Date: 06 Jan 21 - 01:19 PM Buachaille Ban used the Come By The Hills melody but a other tune is used |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: RunrigFan Date: 05 Jan 21 - 05:08 AM The lyrics? The artist who not have lyrics in their album. I believe it said traditional. It's not the artist recording it who is the originator, you are not adding anything to these previously covered threads, just confusing it. - Are you deluded? Did i say it was the artist was the originator? No? If by you talking about the links as I said before the Scottish version using a similar melody. Big difference |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: GUEST,Rossey Date: 05 Jan 21 - 03:46 AM Runrig fan.. please STOP circulating words of well known songs without credit to the known writers. This is the late W. Gordon Smith's modern lyrics to a well known older air. They are not the words of the artist performing it..who have no part in the matter, The song's origins have been discussed many times and written down many times on here. I fail to understand why you feel the need to reproduce them again. It's not the artist recording it who is the originator, you are not adding anything to these previously covered threads, just confusing it. |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: RunrigFan Date: 05 Jan 21 - 12:16 AM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIHqebR-jfk Capercaillie and Anne Lorne Gillies use a similar melody to Come By The Hills https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y04MhVzV_DY |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: robomatic Date: 04 Jan 21 - 08:28 PM I've only heard the version sung by Gordon Bok and Anne Mayo Muir, though I think the story on the LP album cover was that it was a recent song penned by a Scots television producer, the song speaks to me of an ever ready nostalgia that anyone can apply if not to actual images, to an image of images. By the end verse, I usually have tears in my eyes. I've never been to Scotland. |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: RunrigFan Date: 04 Jan 21 - 07:53 PM Come by the hills to the land where fancy is free And stand where the peaks meet the sky and the loch reach the sea Where the rivers run clear and the bracken grows gold in the sun And cares of tomorrow must wait 'til this day is done Come by the hills to the land where wealth is a song And listen while birds fill the air with their joy all day long Where the trees sway in time, even the wind seems in tune And cares of tomorrow must wait 'til this day is done Come by the hills to the land where legend remains Where stories of old fill the heart and may yet come again For a past has been lost and the future is there to be won And cares of tomorrow must wait 'til this day is done Come by the hills to the land where fancy is free And stand where the peaks meet the sky and the loch reach the sea Where the rivers run clear and the bracken grows gold in the sun And cares of tomorrow must wait 'til this day is done And cares of tomorrow must wait 'til this day is done As recorded by Angus Smith from his album Òrain |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: Jack Campin Date: 27 May 13 - 05:57 AM The tune can't be, the words are. W. Gordon Smith died around 1990, I think. I may still have his daughter's address and phone number somewhere, but he will have been organized enough to get the song registered in the usual places. |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: GUEST Date: 27 May 13 - 01:19 AM Is this song copyrighted somewhere? |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: kendall Date: 09 Jun 12 - 11:48 AM Guest, have you heard my recording of this? |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: Bat Goddess Date: 09 Jun 12 - 11:05 AM I used to sing harmony with Jay Smith on "Come By the Hills"...can't remember (maybe it's in my notes on the other computer) where he got it. Miss him. Should really start singing the song again. Linn |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: GUEST Date: 08 Jun 12 - 10:35 PM best version ever THE CORRIES |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: Jack Campin Date: 28 Jan 12 - 02:14 PM W. Gordon Smith in "This is My Country" (1976), in a piece about romantic Jacobitism, as exemplified by "Ma" Castles, a Miss-Jean-Brodie-like English teacher he had at school: A few years ago I wrote a song, "Come by the Hills", and it is probably very much in the mainstream of contemporary Scottish songs- a gentle ballad, melodic, wistful, with that flawless Scottish virtue, pride. The Moira Andersons of this world sing it sweetly and sincerely. The last verse is: |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: Mick Pearce (MCP) Date: 27 Jan 12 - 08:08 AM According to Wikipedia W.Gordon Smith; but I can't confirm that. Mick |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: GUEST,Alistair Banfield Date: 27 Jan 12 - 07:28 AM Can I weigh in with a different (and possibly earlier) version of the "Come By The Hills" song that this thread is meant to be about. I have just bought a French ep with Ted Furey and Patsy Whelan singing this song. I believe this to be from the early to mid 1960s, but it might be from the early to mid 70s. Who knows when Ted and Patsy were in L'Orient for the festival? Also people have mentioned that the lyrics were written by Gordon Smith, was this W. Gordon-Smith or Gordon "hank" Smith who was also a radio presenter in Shetland and musician and band leader at a time when Aly Bain was still in short trousers and playing in his band. |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: GUEST Date: 29 Jun 11 - 12:12 PM This song, Tramps and Hawkers is one of the songs I like to perform. I think that some of the folks that I play for might remember it as a diffrent song but the version I remember was The Corries from 1972. Mum and I are thinking about doing a list of songs that we remember as difrent words all the time and Tramps and hawkers will be in it. |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: Genie Date: 04 Jun 11 - 06:21 AM Here is the Gaelic-only version of "Buachaill o'n Eirne" sung by Damian McGinty And here is "Buachaill òn Eirne" sung by Maire Brennan (Clannad) |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: Little Robyn Date: 27 Apr 11 - 05:37 PM Dave and Panda Calder recorded it as well, here in NZ back in the 1960s. Robyn |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: GUEST,Guest - Linda Date: 27 Apr 11 - 02:28 PM My favourite version is by an Irish folk singer by the name of Anne Byrne. Anne had a beautiful voice (reminds me of early Joan Baez type voice). Unfortunately, all of her albums, including the one with her singing, "Come By The Hills" was only released on LPs. She had several albums but none ever released on CD. Anne's version of, "Come By The Hills" is gorgeous! Most of her albums were released in the 1960's. There is a few videos of Anne Byrne singing on Youtube but not this song. |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: GUEST,Lighter Date: 27 Apr 11 - 08:11 AM Part of the horror of the trees is that I've seen them doing just that in an animated cartoon from the '30s. Also, I think there'd have to be unnaturally shifting apocalyptic winds for you really to notice trees "swaying in time." IMO. |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: kendall Date: 27 Apr 11 - 07:21 AM It's on my latest CD titled "I Remember Loving You.". If I knew how to do it I would put it on my web site. If not for Old Dude I wouldn't even have a web site. ...and sing while the birds fill the air with their joy all day long...that's a lovely line to anyone who has an ounce of romance in them. |
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Subject: Lyr: Come by the Hills (Buachaill ón Eirne) From: Genie Date: 27 Apr 11 - 04:05 AM Jack, yes, Celtic ThuLnder may be a overproduced, but I'd never think of comparing them to Danial O'Donnell. But thanks for pointing out that the English is not a translation of the Irish. When I heard Damien McGinty sing the song recently on PBS, it was entirely in Gaelic. And I thought he did a fine job of it. (But what do I know?) Anyway, I think it's a beautiful song. BTW, I tried to find Dougie MacLean's version on YouTube but to no avail. And I'd love to hear you sing it, Kendall. |
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Subject: Lyr: Come by the Hills (Buachaill ón Eirne) From: Genie Date: 27 Apr 11 - 04:05 AM Jack, yes, Celtic ThuLnder may be a overproduced, but I'd never think of comparing them to Danial O'Donnell. But thanks for pointing out that the English is not a translation of the Irish. When I heard Damien McGinty sing the song recently on PBS, it was entirely in Gaelic. And I thought he did a fine job of it. (But what do I know?) Anyway, I think it's a beautiful song. BTW, I tried to find Dougie MacLean's version on YouTube but to no avail. And I'd love to hear you sing it, Kendall. |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: GUEST,Lighter Date: 26 Apr 11 - 09:24 PM Yeah, it's the trees swaying in time that especially triggers my flight or fight response. The Irish words are far more interesting. |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: Jack Campin Date: 26 Apr 11 - 08:39 PM The English isn't a translation of the Irish, it's an entirely different song. I couldn't take more than the first verse of that overproduced slop. Looks like he's the next Daniel O'Donnell. |
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Subject: YouTube: Come by the Hills From: Genie Date: 25 Apr 11 - 11:45 PM This is from Damien McGinty, of Celtic Thunder. I have not heard other renditions of the song in Gaelic, and I enjoyed young Damien's singing of it very much. (Excuse me if I don't know where the punctuation goes.) COME BY THE HILLS Buachaill ón Eirne mé's bhréagfainn féin cailín deas óg ' Né iarfainn bó spré léithe tá mé saibhir go leor 'S liom Corcaigh a mhéid e , dhá thaobh a ghleanna's Tír Eoghain 'S mur n-athraí mé béasaí 's mé n' t-oibhr ar Chontae Mhaigh Eo. (Here is the English Translation) I am a boy from Ireland and I'd coax a nice young girl, I wouldn't ask for a dowry with her, I'm rich enough myself, I own Cork, big as it is both sides of the glen and Tyrone, And if I don't change my ways I'll be the heir for County Mayo. Come by the hills to the land where fancy is free. And stand where the peaks meet the sky and the loughs meet the sea, Where the rivers run clear and the bracken is gold in the sun, And the cares of tomorrow can wait till this day is done. Come by the hills to the land where life is a song. And stand where the birds fill the air with their joy all day long, Where the trees sway in time and even the wind sings in tune; And the cares of tomorrow can wait till this day is done. Come by the hills to the land where legend remains. The stories of old fill the heart and may yet come again, Where the past has been lost and the future is still to be won; And, the cares of tomorrow can wait till this day is done. And, the cares of tomorrow can wait till this day is done. |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: maeve Date: 18 Jul 10 - 09:47 PM Welcome to Mudcat, Rosemary. Thank you for stopping by to leave an update. |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: GUEST Date: 18 Jul 10 - 09:22 PM Hello everybody. Just surfing the net and see my name! I am that Rosemary Maguire:) Harry (Henry)was a great character who enjoyed life to the full. The couple of years we sang together were very enjoyable and great fun. We stopped singing together when I was gearing up for my final year in university(studying languages)as I felt I needed to concentrate. We subsequently lost contact. I was sad when I heard he had died. I attended his wake and was honoured when his son handed me Harry's guitar to sing a song. By the way I still enjoy singing but mainly limit it to the shower! |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: SINSULL Date: 21 Dec 09 - 11:57 AM Kendall included this on one of his new CDs. Beautifully done. SINS |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: Jack Campin Date: 21 Dec 09 - 11:50 AM I've never heard of him named as anything but W. Gordon Smith. The "Gordon" is part of his surname, he was descended from the Gordons of north-east Scotland. There are quite a few Gordon Smiths in the Edinburgh area. It's a fine song which has become well-established in Scotland. I've never heard the Irish one and I don't know where W. Gordon Smith got the tune. (His daughter Belinda plays the fiddle and I used to play with her a few years ago, but I never asked her for all the details). I believe he entered it for a song competition and came second to something now long forgotten. I posted an ABC of the way I hear it sung these days round here in thread 30948. It seems to have been mutated a bit from the Irish version. |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Come by the Hills From: GUEST,Mick Stubbles Date: 21 Dec 09 - 11:26 AM I have just fished out one of my favourite vinyl albums. It is called 'Finbar and Eddie Furey', it features (of course) Finbar and Eddie; and it includes Finbar and Eddie's version of Come By The Hills. According to the record label the album was published in 1968. The notes state that Come By The Hills was writen by the Scottish TV producer Gordon Smith. The words are set to the traditional Irish air "Buchal an Eire." The biographical notes on the cover mention that Finbar and Eddie came to Scotland for the first time in 1967 and based themselves in Edinburgh where their many friends included The Corries and Paddy Bell! The album was Transatlantic TRA 168; and the 14 tracks also appear as half of a compilation CD The Best of the Furies, Pulse CD PLS 106, in 2000. The original album includes three or four Scottish songs; and a wonderful uillean pipe version of Tattered Jack Welch. |
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Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Come by the hills From: GUEST,Tom Beveridge Date: 08 Nov 02 - 10:24 AM Mea culpa! I'm the Tom Beveridge who reported Paddie Bell/Fureys album as being issued in "1963?". It was issued in 1968 (on Waverley, which by then had been taken over by EMI). Unfortunately, the Corries discography hasn't had a comprehensive update since I discovered my error. The earliest Waverley version of "Come By the Hills" I've found is by Peter Mallan (an orthodox Scottish singer) in 1967. Other info that's waiting to be published on the Corries Discography--there were different versions of the first three EPs (with extra tracks) and, did you know that Roy Williamson issued a couple of non-Corrie tracks during the 1970s? |
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Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Come by the hills From: GUEST Date: 09 Aug 02 - 09:33 AM GerryB, Just found this rather sad posting from Sean Quinn on the IRTRAD list: Listers will be saddened to learn of the sudden passing, Belfast, Wednesday 7th August 2002, of our dear friend Harry O'Prey (HOP). I introduced Harry to the list a few years ago and he since entertained us all with his wisdom and wit. He was a talented pianist, guitarist and singer as well as a Gaelic scholar, authority on songs in Irish and English, and prolific photographer. He played piano with numerous ceili bands. Tragically, he buried his dear wife Marceline less than a fortnight ago. He will be sadly missed within the Irish language and music communities. Ar dheis De go raibh a anam.
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Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Come by the hills From: GUEST,GerryB Date: 05 Aug 02 - 02:23 PM Refresh |
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Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Come by the hills From: GUEST,GerryB Date: 04 Aug 02 - 04:06 PM Guest, I think you've got it. Stangely enough, my wife remembers meeting the duo in Kerry at some big festival or other in Dingle way back when. If "Henry" is the same person and he was solo in the mid 60s, then I guess they had broken up by then. Certainly, the girl, Rosemary, disappeared from the scene entirely apparently. Do any other Catters from Ireland remember them? GerryB |
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Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Come by the hills From: GUEST Date: 04 Aug 02 - 11:12 AM GerryB, Would that have been Henry O'Prey? I remember him singing solo at gigs in the mid-60s, by which time I assume the partnership had broken up. |
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Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Come by the hills From: Cappuccino Date: 04 Aug 02 - 04:02 AM If it's of any assistance, I recall Paddie herself telling me, and this was in the late 70s early 80s, that the song was indeed written for her and that she was the first to record it. Although I knew her well back then, I haven't seen the lady since about 1980-ish... she used to live in, I think, Royal Crescent in Edinburgh, but my memory is hazy about that. One of the classy blocks just along from the Dean Bridge, heading out of town. - Ian B |
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Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Come by the hills From: GUEST,GerryB Date: 03 Aug 02 - 01:32 PM I remember this pair. The girl was Rosemary Maguire and was very striking looking.The man was O'Prey (I think). Between them they sang in something like five languages. Their soiund was quite unique due to the fact that they harmonised on the guitars as well as the voices. They sere very big in the Trad. / Folk scene especially in Northern Ireland but they sang in various venues throughout Ireland. I believe that the man was still singing and playing until fairly recently but I have heard nothing of Rosemary Maguire. Someone apart from myself must remember them. GerryB |
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Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Come by the hills From: GUEST,Tony Date: 02 Aug 02 - 03:33 PM Not a lot. they were very well known and featured frequently on local TV and also on RTE. The particular thing I remember was their winning the Bellaghy Ballad Festival - a very big deal. The girl, if my memory serves me right was called Maguire / Mc Guire. She was a very striking looking lass with long jet black hair and strong features. Very Spanish looking, funny enough. I dont think they produced any records, but I could be wrong. Tony |
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Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Come by the hills From: GUEST,Ballyholme Date: 02 Aug 02 - 09:23 AM My goodness, Will Millar's quite the "composer", isn't he? Makes Stephen Foster look like a one-hit wonder. On the other hand, Bill Smith seems to have written one great set of lyrics and quit while he was ahead. Tony, having been familiar with the Belfast folk scene in the 60s, I'm intrigued by your reference to the couple who sang in Irish and Spanish. Any more info on them? |
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Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Come by the hills From: GUEST, Dale Date: 02 Aug 02 - 04:00 AM Actually, that was not my statement, but of Tom Beveridge who was responsible for some of the content on the Corries Discography page. I know Spanish Lady, but only from the Fureys on the Bell/Furey album mentioned above. Following the link I gave will let you hear a bit of Spanish Lady. I searched their site for Ettrick Lady and found that it is on The Corries Live From Scotland Album. The sound sample for that is all instrumental intro except for a second or two, but the tune is (to my ears) the same. I am definitely the wrong person to venture any opinion or information beyond that. I DID do a copyright search at both ASCAP and BMI, with these results: ASCAP returned one result, writers: Brian Alexander Keane & Joan Marie Madden (Joanie Madden of Cherish The Ladies), Publisher: Brian Keane Music Inc. BMI had four results: William Gordon Smith, Beechwood Music Corporation Loreena McKennitt, Warner-Tamerlane Publishing Co. Will R Millar/Traditional, no publisher listed (Irish Rovers) Geoffry Noble/Traditional, no publisher listed (I didn't have to look the others up, but this one I did, and I confess to knowing no more after looking up his name than before I looked. His list of other works makes me think he is Canadian, probably from BC.) Will Millar had an amazing list of 523 "compositions", quite a body of work, sort of a hits of the ages. Annie Laurie, Barbara Allen, Bard of Armagh, Black Velvet Band, Blue Tail Fly ~~ you get the picture. For what it's worth, there was ONE listing for William Gordon Smith. Neither site gives dates, which would be extremely helpful, but they don't, so there you go. I started to search Socan, but couldn't seem to find the right buttons to push so I gave up.
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Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Come by the hills From: GUEST,Boab Date: 02 Aug 02 - 02:23 AM Just a wee "aside". I note Dale, in one of his postings mentions "spanish Lady" becoming "Ettrick Lady". I sing "Ettrick Lady" as a duet with one of the lassies in our group; can anyone give me its history?? |
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Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Come by the hills From: GUEST,Tony Date: 01 Aug 02 - 10:12 PM For whatit is worth, the original - and still the best version IMHO - is the Irish "Buachail ón Éirne". The English one under discussion here is too self-conscious and studied a composition. It is not of the Irish Tradition and has not taken root among traditional singers. As some-one remarked, it became a staple of the "Folk Clubs". Just as a matter of inerest, yet another version called "Gréasaí ón Ghréig", was in the repertoire of a very successful duo in the early 60's; a young Belfast couple who sang in a number of languages including Irish and Spanish. Does anyone know if they produced any recordings ? Tony |
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Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Come by the hills From: GUEST,Ballyholme Date: 01 Aug 02 - 04:24 PM At the risk of muddying the water a bit (why not? this isn't exactly science, is it?) Liam Clancy recorded Buachaill On Eirne (the air for Come By The Hills) on his first solo album in 1965> |
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Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Come by the hills From: GUEST,Ballyholme Date: 01 Aug 02 - 03:11 PM GUEST,Dale Good to hear that Paddie's old albums are being re-released. I'm sticking my neck out here but I find it hard to believe that the Clancy's recorded Come By The Hills before Paddie. My understanding is that Gordon Smith wrote the song in Scotland and with his connections to the local folk scene (Corrie Bill Smith was his brother) it seems unlikely that such a good song would not have been recorded by a Scots performer. I still believe that Paddie recorded it first and the Clancy's some time later. I recall seeing the Clancy's several times in the 60s (from 1965 onwards) and don't remember the song being in their repertoire at that time. |
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Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Come by the hills From: GUEST,Dale Date: 01 Aug 02 - 01:47 PM Clarification. Ballyholme didn't SAY 68, but "at least 1966/67 - possibly later." I worded that poorly. |
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Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Come by the hills From: GUEST,Dale Date: 01 Aug 02 - 01:42 PM Well, there IS good news. I see by Corries.com that I Know Where I Am Going/Paddie Herself has been released as a double CD with 29 tracks. This is the first I have been made aware of this, and I HAVE looked before. (Follow the Paddie Bell link on the left to her other recordings.) It gives the date of Paddie Herself as 1965, as listed in the Discography above. It also agrees with Ballyholme that the release of I Know Where I Am Going was in 1968. This is certainly at odds with the theory that her version was the first. If The Clancys recorded it in 66, that would be two years earlier than hers. It could be that it was recorded as noted in 63 or thereabouts and not released until later. Stay tuned. (No matter what, her version still gets my vote as the best.) |
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Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Come by the hills From: GUEST Date: 01 Aug 02 - 01:18 PM Dale, I'll check my album when I get home tonight, but I'm sure that the album wasn't released until at least 1966/67 - possibly later. I remember Paddie Bell visiting Belfast around that date and singing in Pat's Bar. The album was released around that time. It was around this time that the Fureys first went to Scotland where they were "discovered" by a much wider audience than they had in Ireland. Finbar and Eddie's first album as a duo followed shortly. It's difficult to believe that anyone had recorded "Come By The Hills" before Paddie. After her recording was released it suddenly became a staple in folk clubs. A song as good as that couldn't have lain around unnoticed. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: COME BY THE HILLS (Gordon Smith) From: GUEST,Dale Date: 01 Aug 02 - 12:26 PM I have been listening again to Paddie Bell's version, and note a few differences from the lyrics printed in the DT and other places around the net. Most notable is her singing "Where glories of old stir the heart," rather than "Where stories of old fill the heart." That line alone makes it seem worthwhile to me to include her version here. It seems logical to me that it is likely to be as written by Gordon Smith, or at the very least a change approved by him, since he was the producer of her album.
COME BY THE HILLS
Come by the hills to the land where life is a song
Come by the hills to the land where legends remain
Come by the hills to the land where fancy is free
Ballyholme, this is what the Corries Discography has to say ~~ a bit sketchy. They list the date as 1963?, which is earlier than the Clancy album mentioned by cetmst, but not exactly definite. My album is undated, and I can't remember exactly.
I KNOW WHERE I'M GOING (1963?)
I Know Where I'm Going *
Tom Beveridge: Several of these, and songs from "Herself" (see below) show up later on Corrie releases, or on Paddie's two solo efforts from the 1990s. It's a warm wonderful album--as Irish as waking with a hangover on the banks of the Liffey after a night of draught Guinness. Paddie never sounded more at home. Clearly, there was a lot of cross-pollination. One of the tracks is "Spanish Lady" which became "Ettrick Lady". Of the two, the album with the Fureys is far better. Paddie sounds much more comfortable and "authentic". The solo album, as you can see, contains a diversity of material--Scottish, Irish, English, American--that often falls a bit flat. A reliable correspondent reports of Paddie about 3 LPs on Waverley in concert with artists other than the Trio. (I think the elves have been rearranging things. This thread and related ones seem somehow different.) |
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Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Come by the hills From: GUEST,Ballyholme Date: 01 Aug 02 - 10:19 AM GUEST,Dale I believe you're right in believing that Paddie Bell was the first to record the song. I have the album somewhere at home but I don't think it was ever released on the Waverley label. Waverley may have ceased operation by the time the album was released. It is my understanding that Gordon Smith was the brother of Bill Smith, a founding member of the Corries, and that he wrote the song for a TV program. |
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Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Come by the hills From: GUEST,maryrrf Date: 01 Aug 02 - 09:47 AM Somebody told me Tommy Makem wrote the words to this song - but it seems that according to this thread he didn't??? |
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Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Come by the hills From: cetmst Date: 01 Aug 02 - 07:47 AM The earliest recording I have is the Clancy Brothers and Tommy Makem record Bold Fenian Men, Columbia CS 9805 in 1966, noting words by Gordon Smith to the above tune. Since then it has been recorded by many people including Jean Redpath, Gordon Bok and Anne Mayo Muir. Ensemble Galilei has an instrumental only recording on their Follow the Moon CD, Dorian DIS-80139, 1995. Lovely tune, inspiring and comforting words - "the cares of tomorrow must wait 'til this day is done". |
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Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Come by the hills From: GUEST,Dale Date: 01 Aug 02 - 07:21 AM I think that the recording Boab is referring to was an early 60s collaboration by Paddie Bell(pre Corries) and The Fureys. Paddie actually did the vocal on Come By The Hills, though Finbar and Eddie are well represented on the album. My copy is on Capitol International, but I have read that the original issue was on Waverly. Important to note that the producer was GORDON SMITH, who penned the words. My thinking is that this may be the first recording of the song, but as always, feel free to correct me if I am wrong. I think I remember that there is a Mudcatter (or maybe two) who is acquainted with Paddie, so maybe that someone could ask her ~~ provided they read this thread, that is! |
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Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Come by the hills From: GUEST,Boab Date: 01 Aug 02 - 04:07 AM The tune has been named correctly. The lyrics, though, [sorry, I can't name him]were written by a Scot---a t.v. company employee, I believe. The Fureys were among the earliest performers of this song, back in the sixties. Finbar was the first to tell me that the lyrics were Scottish, and subsequent inquiry confirmed this. |
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Subject: Buachaill From: GUEST Date: 31 Jul 02 - 09:00 PM |
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Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Come by the hills From: fairy godmother Date: 05 Feb 99 - 03:07 AM Yep, it's sung to the same tune, but 'tis not the same song by any means, look to the translation, Buachaill on Eirne is alot more sexy!!! |
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Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Come by the hills From: Philippa Date: 04 Feb 99 - 07:29 AM note - "Buachaill ¢n Eirne" is sung to the same tune |
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Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Come by the hills From: Helen Date: 04 Feb 99 - 07:25 AM Hey Alison, Thanks for this one. I have a tape of an Irishman called Mick O'Brien who sang it and played accordion at a session at my place in the early 80's but I've never had the music for it. Helen |
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Subject: Tune Add: COME BY THE HILLS / BUACHAILL ÓN EIRNE From: alison Date: 04 Feb 99 - 12:08 AM also known as Buachaill o/n Eirne ABC format: X:1
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