Subject: RE: Where are all the black country songs? From: Jo Taylor Date: 18 Feb 99 - 07:23 PM Whew!! |
Subject: RE: Where are all the black country songs? From: MMario Date: 19 Feb 99 - 12:33 PM Well Done! *virtual thunderous applause* MMario |
Subject: RE: Where are all the black country songs? From: Jerry Friedman Date: 19 Feb 99 - 03:32 PM Whew? Wow! Fermatas are those sideways-parenthesis hold signs. I was hoping that once you knew the name, you could look them up easily on the abc standard Web page. Imagine my surprise when I found they're not there. |
Subject: RE: Where are all the black country songs? From: Steve Parkes Date: 22 Feb 99 - 10:29 AM Just got back - wow - utterly brill! Thanks Jo, yo'm a bostin' wench - will yo marry us? Steve Oh, sorry, I've just remembered I'm married already (but watch this space!), but I'm sending you a big bottle of industrial strength Oil of Ulay for those smoking fingertips, just as soon as I can work out how to get it on my scanner. |
Subject: RE: Where are all the black country songs? From: Jo Taylor Date: 22 Feb 99 - 06:04 PM Cheers Steve, yes I would if you weren't and if I weren't also, damned inconvenient isn't it? ;-) Anyone know the answer to the, ahem, fermata problem? The other ABC prob was the sign to indicate a dotted note & a little one next to it, HTML thought it was an unrecognised tag. These <<< with any of the ones going the other way afterwards wouldn't work. Solved that one by altering the default note length, lengthening the note and adjusting the tempo. Jo |
Subject: RE: Where are all the black country songs? From: Steve Parkes Date: 23 Feb 99 - 03:19 AM Anyone know how to get Oil of Ulay off a scanner? Steve |
Subject: RE: Where are all the black country songs? From: Jo Taylor Date: 23 Feb 99 - 05:18 PM Oooh Steve, young man, I think baby oil's better! STOP! We'll get told off. And we're not married (to each other) yet. Jo xxx |
Subject: RE: Where are all the black country songs? From: Steve Parkes Date: 24 Feb 99 - 03:23 AM Thanks for the young, Jo! And I think you're right; it's Steve P.S. I dreamt about geese last night ... |
Subject: RE: Where are all the black country songs? From: Roger the zimmer Date: 24 Feb 99 - 08:47 AM Sorry if this is extending this thread beyond its sustainable life but does anyone have the words to a West Midlands version of "Jack of all trades"? Possibly from the Ian Campbell Group (Birmingham's own Scots!). The usual "Gypsy Jack of all trades" (Ewan McColl etc) tune but with places and industries based on Birmingham (City of a thousand trades) and the Black Country. There was also a London version, possibly by the Critics of "Sweet Thames Flow Softly" fame. |
Subject: RE: Where are all the black country songs? From: Steve Parkes Date: 24 Feb 99 - 11:35 AM Funny you should ask, Roger. Let me refer you to this thread: Lyr req: Come on lads and bring your toolbag . Oh - no, I don't have the words! Steve |
Subject: RE: Where are all the black country songs? From: Roger the zimmer Date: 24 Feb 99 - 11:44 AM Thanks Steve, the reference to the Jug o' Punch stirred memories of 196something when I worked in the old Birmingham Central library and several of my colleagues were regular attendees at the JoP. I've always been more of a jazz/blues fan with a sideline interest in folk so I never went, tho' I have some Campbell LPs in my varied collection, (everything from piano rolls to CDs tho' the kazoo and player piano are my only instruments!). Apart from visiting my father in Erdington (the reference to the no64 tram on this thread was of interest!) I nevr get back to the old town now as I've lived away for 30+ years. |
Subject: RE: Where are all the black country songs? From: Steve Parkes Date: 25 Feb 99 - 03:12 AM Don't blame you, Roger! |
Subject: RE: Where are all the black country songs? From: Roger the zimmer Date: 01 Sep 99 - 06:26 AM Belated thanks to Dr John for the contact details of Mike Raven. I've been in touch and ordered some recordings off him. I've tried to get him interested in the Mudcat- his anecdotes of his interesting life might find a ready audience here! |
Subject: RE: Where are all the black country songs? From: Roger the zimmer Date: 03 Sep 99 - 08:20 AM MIke Raven, ex-Black Country Three, has a home page at: Click here Song books and recordings still available. |
Subject: RE: Where are all the black country songs? From: Roger the zimmer Date: 03 Sep 99 - 08:33 AM Hmmm. Well that was the webpage printed in his literature but I get an error message from virgin.net! Confused (formerly) of Birmingham |
Subject: RE: Where are all the black country songs? From: GUEST,STEVE Date: 08 Jun 17 - 10:25 AM I have a CD of Dave Goode "Barking Mad" 1998 LIVE GIG very funny indeed, I was the best Man at his eldest Daughters wedding. Pleasure to have known him email smandy0765@aol.com if you want the MP3 |
Subject: RE: Where are all the black country songs? From: Roger the Skiffler Date: 09 Jun 17 - 05:21 AM Another Lazarus thread. Who was that zimmer guy? RtS |
Subject: RE: Where are all the black country songs? From: GUEST,Desi C Date: 09 Jun 17 - 06:06 AM Very good question. I'm Irish but live in the Black Country and have performed here for many years. While I used to regularly hear BC songs in the 70's & 80's I hardly ever seem to hear them now and would love to learn one or two. I would reccomend BC Poet Billy Spakemon who has written and recorded several of his own BC songs. Just put a search in and he may be able to put you in the right direction |
Subject: RE: Where are all the black country songs? From: Big Al Whittle Date: 09 Jun 17 - 07:17 AM makes you feel bloody old reading through this - nearly twenty years back and talking about stuff 20 years before that - and i knew 'em all! |
Subject: RE: Where are all the black country songs? From: Mr Red Date: 10 Jun 17 - 05:54 AM My BC song, an old Enoch & Eli joke made music. mp3 plays, txt and pdf available. |
Subject: RE: Where are all the black country songs? From: FreddyHeadey Date: 05 Nov 18 - 06:36 AM "Midlife" by Jon Wilkes 2018 thread.cfm?threadid=165199 (even though the thread title is "Brummagem") Follow the links, there's a nice little map with the song information. The Brave Dudley Boys (Roud 1131) I Can’t Find Brummagem (Roud V34542) Navvy Boots (Roud 516) Birmingham Sally (Roud V254). Colin’s Ghost (Roud 1600) Aye For Saturday Night (My Bloke’s a Peaky) (Roud 5701 and 24185) John Hobbs & Bandy-Legged Lett (Roud 21966) Buffoon (a Morris tune) There Was An Old Man Came Over The Sea (Roud 362) Adieu, Adieu (Roud 490) |
Subject: RE: Where are all the black country songs? From: FreddyHeadey Date: 05 Nov 18 - 06:45 AM The MainlyNorfolk page for Wide Midlands mentioned several times above https://mainlynorfolk.info/folk/records/thewidemidlands.html [PC, CRi, MB, LL] The Dudley Boys (Roud 1131) (4.15) [JW, RP] When Shall We Get Married, John? (Roud 313) (2.24) [RP, chorus] The Slap-Bum Tailor (Roud V6012) (2.14) [JR, PH] Swaggering Boney / The Black Joke (1.51) [GH, DD, PB, SL] Stop That Clock / Early in the Morning / When You Get Up in the Morning (0.53) [ST] Jolly Joe the Collier's Son (Roud 1129) (2.04) [TL] Owd Never Could (3.06) [RH] I Can't Find Brummagem (Roud V34542) (2.36) [DR, chorus] The Birmingham Jack of All Trades (Roud 3017) (3.52) [CRo, PB] The Nailmakers' Strike (2.13) [ST] The Old Miner (Roud 1136) (2.09)[CRi] Birmingham Sally (2.13) [JR, PH] Buffoon / Staffordshire Hornpipe (2.25) [JS] Aye for Saturday Night (Roud 5701) (1.15) [TL] The Aston Villa Supporter (2.48) [GL, BE] Motor Trade Workers (2.55) |
Subject: RE: Where are all the black country songs? From: Mr Red Date: 06 Nov 18 - 04:00 AM I forgot this one about the "Dead Centre of Civilisation" The very Dead Centre. Wednesbury |
Subject: RE: Where are all the black country songs? From: FreddyHeadey Date: 06 Nov 18 - 10:57 AM 2018 There is a new Michael Raven web page by Joan Mills. A couple of dozen CDs available(2 pages) so there must be a few BC tracks. http://michaelraven.co.uk/recordings/ |
Subject: RE: Where are all the black country songs? From: GUEST,Kim wedge Date: 13 Nov 18 - 04:51 AM I’ve just been looking through a box of bits and bobs and guess what I have found Yes volume 2 I’ve no idea what is best to do with it do you think the Black Country museum would like it ? Thanks |
Subject: RE: Where are all the black country songs? From: GUEST,gilly Date: 14 Nov 18 - 05:51 AM 'Brave Dudley Boys' mentioned above is an interesting one. Great tune [modal?]the lyric rhymes 'join' with 'combine' which has the ring of authenticity, as does the reference to the Ward family and there were food riots in the area round about the 1830's, but I wonder whether it was written for the LP. Anyone know the provenance ? |
Subject: RE: Where are all the black country songs? From: FreddyHeadey Date: 14 Nov 18 - 10:56 AM Dudley Boys MainlyNorfolk says W. Byng Kenrick of Birmingham recited the text to Charles Parker in 1959. https://mainlynorfolk.info/folk/songs/thebravedudleyboys.html |
Subject: RE: Where are all the black country songs? From: GUEST,Gilly Date: 15 Nov 18 - 05:10 AM Ta muchly owd pal, very helpful. Should the singing credit read Mick Bramwich not Brantwich if I remember rightly? |
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