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SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?

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Subject: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 11:42 AM

I know this has been done before, but I don't think it's been done since the advent of blogs, the rise of Wiki, etc.

I know at one time, many Mudcat regulars claimed only to use this online forum. Well, they've now been online awhile and I expect may have gotten bored enough to go exploring the wild side of the web.

I ask this, because I'm guessing a lot of people have "branched out".

Yeah or Nay?


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: clairerise
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 11:43 AM

Nay


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 11:45 AM

♫I've been everywhere, man"♫


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: John Routledge
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 11:51 AM

I am ignoring Guest by saying "No Comment"


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 11:58 AM

Not quite only, but almost. The only other places I post regularly are sites belonging to Mudcat members.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 11:58 AM

No, you didn't ignore Guest. You responded to Guest.

But if you want me to play along in order to protect your tender delusions, OK.

Thanks for ignorning me John Routledge.

Have a nice day.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Amos
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 12:11 PM

I visit other sites regularly. For example, "Doonesbury" and "Dilbert.com".

A


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 12:15 PM

Actually, I should have been more clear. I didn't mean surfing. I meant to ask how many of you post and/or visit other online chat forums, blogs, Wiki type places, that sort of thing. Places where you have the ability to easily talk with and interact with other cyber space folk.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 12:24 PM

I am suspicious of someone not using their own name and trying to conduct an opinion poll for no given reason, and feel that it could be used either for or against this site.
I therefore want to know who you are, and why you require this information.
Giok


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 12:26 PM

you would get a MUCH better response if you would simply adopt a NAME for the sake of easier communication.

It make no difference why some feel like this small courtesy is an imposition on their sense of ....whatever....but the fact remains that total anonymity is considered less than considerate..

suit yerself...


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 12:29 PM

Well, you aren't going to find out who I am, but truly, I'm just curious. Used to be, most regulars here only came and posted here. I'm guessing that has changed, but may well be wrong about it. Unlike many here, being wrong doesn't trouble me much, as my identity as a human being isn't any more linked to being right than it is to having an internet identity.

You can participate in the survey or not. Doesn't matter. I did it on a whim. The thread will become whatever people here make it become. I'm not worried about that either.

Pretty soon, I'll be done with breakfast, tea & emails and I'll be out enjoying the day. Maybe I'll get back to check the results this weekend, maybe not. If others are curious and want to particpate, fine. If others choose to make the thread about anonymous guest posting, go for it.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Ebbie
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 12:30 PM

Hmmmmm. I was going to respond but Bill D and Giok's views persuade me.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 12:30 PM

♫ "Home, home on the Mudcat..." ♫

I've joined and briefly participated in other forums (on other interests), but got tired of the design, slow speed, and less-evolved state of the membership. I didn't really like the added features many of them had (self-edit, etc.), although I enjoyed looking at them to see how they worked. I found the admins/mods tended to be less satisfactory too, for various reasons.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 12:44 PM

I...ad most others...do not NEED to know who you are....as I have been saying for years, you can call yourself Rumplestiltskin, and no one will know anything more than that...it is still polite to HAVE a name.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 12:46 PM

I do have a name BillD. I just choose not to share it on the world wide web.

So fuck the survey idea. Let's talk about me instead.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: LilyFestre
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 12:52 PM

The internet is a mighty big place and I have found a few forums that I vist regularly. Mudcat Cafe is a nice place but it isn't the only forum on the block. :)

Michelle, The Happy Wanderer :)


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 01:07 PM

" I just choose not to share it on the world wide web."

then use "Turnip".....(but, then, you knew you weren't required to use YOUR name...)


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 01:17 PM

GUEST, what I'm about to say is a serious inquiry, no smart-assedness intended.

Since you say you choose not to share your identity on the WWW, and since you say you post to a number of forums, I'd be interested in knowing how common it is for forums to allow totally anonymous posting? Seems like every forum I've ever been to other than this one requires that one become a member before being allowed to post. Most of them allow viewing by non-members, but posting by members only. Maybe I've just not found the others which allow guest posting. Could you, perhaps, provide a link or two?


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 01:24 PM

Taken at face value, bee dub.

Yes, the other forums I use I provide a regular user name, and are member only.

No, I won't give you links or any other information about them, because I don't want Mudcatters stalking me online.

Too many unbalanced people here (especially your beloved demonic moderators) for me to give out personal information like that in this forum.

I use a number of different user names online, but I have learned not to ever use my real name as a user name in forums, newsgroups, etc. People I want to know my true identity, know it. Those I don't want to know it, for the most part, don't.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: hesperis
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 01:35 PM

Some do, some don't. I post elsewhere much more frequently.

I really wish that many members here were not so allergic to the idea of namelessness. Post traumatic stress syndrome is not the fault of every guest, only of the ones who used to make trouble, and that was years ago. So members, lighten up. Sometimes you don't need an "identity" in order to communicate, yeesh. Max allows it, deal with it rather than bitching at every new guest and making all us members look horribly cliqueish.

Ever heard of hospitality? Or of innocent until proven guilty? Bah. You're just making it worse on yourselves by reacting this way instead of with a generous heart.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Maryrrf
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 02:00 PM

I post on a couple of other forums. Both are moderated and registration is required. The moderators do not hesitate to reprimand members for personal attacks and, if necessary, to delete posts. On one forum it is required, unless there is a very good reason (and you can pm the moderator to explain) that you use your real name (first and last). The other forum requires a small payment ($15.00 per year) in order to post on all topics (a few topics are free and open to the public). I post much more often to these forums than to Mudcat. I like the fact that some degree of civility is imposed. I know Max and many Mudcatters don't believe in censorship and that's okay, but I feel that the other two forums I belong to run more smoothly. There's nothing like Mudcat for getting song, lyric or any type of folk music information though. And I quite like many of the folks on Mudcat.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 02:05 PM

I've joined and briefly participated in other forums (on other interests), but got tired of the design, slow speed, and less-evolved state of the membership.

LOL

As opposed to Mudcat, which is zippy fast, never goes down and has a membership where everybody loves everybody and bitter feuds never break out?


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 02:12 PM

Life is too short to post at only one message board....


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: bobad
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 02:15 PM

I will respond to you the same way I respond to anonymous surveyors that phone my home - CLUNK.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 02:16 PM

Guest, I will clarify, but I'm not interested in being baited out of patience.

Since I am not a compulsive poster, I generally only use/visit Mudcat when it's in its speedy form. "When it was fast, it was very very fast." When it's slow, or full of crap, I have lots and lots of other music-oriented things to do.

Other fora with all their bells and whistles that are slow, are ALWAYS slow.

See how quick a flamewar can get going and, in an instant, out of hand at Mudcat, is the proof of the pudding.

~Susan
Cable modem user


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: number 6
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 02:24 PM

I dunno Guest ... the Mudcat lately reminds me of a small town piazza in Italy during the 1950's (like one of those Federico Fellini movies) where all the citizens are are arguing about the communists or the facists, no room for the in between, or for one who wants to discuss culinary delights, cultural music of the area, joking around, sharing info .. and if ya did facism, or communism comes into play ... the arguing eventually evolves from throwing pasta into ones faces and eventually to throwing punches ... I guess I should head down south for a while, down to Sicily .. it's pretty well balanced thanks to the Costa Nostra ... I'll come back north once the 1980's rolls around ... I hear communism and fasism has pretty well faded into the the concrete and clay by then. No more bullies. The people are actually out and about in the piazza actually enjoying life, laffing, joking, sharing stories, music abounds through the piazza, and the food, well there actually eating it not throwing it inot each others faces.

sIx


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 02:27 PM

"Too many unbalanced people here (especially your beloved demonic moderators) for me to give out personal information like that in this forum."

well, no matter what your opinion of the moderators and crazies..*grin*...you still totally ignore the question of why you don't choose a fake name...even when posting a guest with no cookie set. you cannot BE identified by merely adopting a 'handle'

This is the usual pattern for paranoid..or just plain stubborn..guests. "I do it MY way...I don't have to explain to you."...and we don't have to bite on your surveys, either. Stubborness cuts both ways...


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 02:35 PM

Bill you should get over your obsession and move on. You are playing in Max's house with his rules. NOBODY needs to answer to you.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 02:47 PM

this "impolite to not use a name or a hokey pseudonym" is beginning to fit the modus operandus of another certain (in)famous member whose monomaniac attempt at foisting change fits the Einsteinian definition of insanity ...

Obviously some people not of the Old Guard don't share the "considered to be inconsiderate" proclamation.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST,1:24
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 02:48 PM

Yes BillD, I'm still ignoring your question.

And I'm so hurt you won't play with me and answer the survey question.

Sorry this is all so hard on you. You have me sympathies.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 02:49 PM

I didn't claim for a minute I could control any of the issues...and my 'obsession' is with irrational silliness ☺....

My points are still valid, whether or not you deign to answer them.

(gee...a fellow needs a hobby, right? Mine is asking pointed questions)


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 02:50 PM

What have ya got to hide??

Nothing....

You think anyone here cares who you really are? They don't....

It's just better to have a name to associate with the postings.....


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 02:56 PM

Better? I don't think so. And I don't live according to your standards, or BillD's.

Thank goodness.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 02:58 PM

As I said elsewhere, if you don't attach your face to your words, your words are useless.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:01 PM

In your opinion. Not in others.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:01 PM

Without ownership, your opinions are just farts in the dark.... Just noise and stink....

Ya wanna be taken seriously at all?!?! FKN OWN what you're trying to say... Stand up and be bold... shout your words from the roof for all the world to hear...

Otherwise.... Yer just waisting your time and Max's bandwidth


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:03 PM

OK. Thanks for sharing.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:05 PM

Wazza matter? Stymied?

Wow... that was easy...


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:06 PM

(first time in umpty-leven posts that Clinton & I have been on the same side of an issue...*grin*....oughta tell you something)


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:11 PM

I'm a little dense, BillD. What should it tell us? Really, the question is meant to be taken at face value. You've lost me.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: heric
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:13 PM

Mudcat: If you're not part of the problem, you're pretty near non-existent.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: BuckMulligan
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:21 PM

Close, Heric: If you're not part of the problem, you're only lurking.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:25 PM

It means that contrary to your assertion, others DO share the same (Or similar at least) opinion in this matter....

So take your passive-agressive attempts at flame-bait, and see if someone will let you exchange them for half a clue


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:28 PM

Clinton you having a name does not make anyone take you seriously. Hate to be the one to break it to you.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:32 PM

I'll wager, more seriously than anyone around here takes you....

At least I have the capacity...   You got nothing.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:34 PM

Hey Guest,

If we all do this, how will anyone no who's posting and be able to refer back to other postings. After all, you don't want to be blamed for something stoopid that I say, do you?


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:34 PM

How I wish I had everything...just like you.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:35 PM

yep...that's what it should tell you....that most members, even those who disagree on many things, agree on THIS issue. As you see, it causes debate that overshadows the original question...so being smugly anonymous is possible, but not very rewarding, no matter HOW you think it should be.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:37 PM

Bill you seem to be having trouble the basic concept that Max owns the site and makes the rules. Do you go into other peoples homes and tell them how they shold have decorated?


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:38 PM

Start by wishing you had anything...   Even half a clue would be a huge step forward for ya...

If you had half a clue you wouldn't feel the need to try to put words into my 'mouth'.... nowhere did I say I had everything, did I...


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:39 PM

Ok thanks for telling me where to start.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:41 PM

Stymied again eh....

it's no surprise


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:43 PM

Clinton people refusing to engage in confrontation does not mean they have been stymied. Have a quick once over on the need to win thread. I mean when you have a spare minute of course.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:43 PM

You dislike me! You really, really dislike me!

                               --Sallie Gardens


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:44 PM

I agree with the 03:34 GUEST. This could get confusing if no one used a name. Of course, if everyone used the same name it'd be just as bad.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:47 PM

well for you who think it's just insignificant words when nameless people post them ...it sure brings out some opinionated responses and evidently closely-held beliefs.

Funny how insignificant words from nameless, insignificant non-entities can do that.

This wasn't an issue and didn't cloud over anything until a member brought it up.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST,Jim
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:49 PM

Getting back on topic; I also post on the Mandolin Cafe and the Banjo Hang-Out. Sometimes I post on Homespun Tape's message board as well. Oh, I've also posted on the Fred Eaglesmith Digest and Port Putley.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:50 PM

Au contraire.

Authentic anons and pseudos know that 3:44 and 3:34 aren't guests at all, but Mudcat members feeling stymied by the likes of me and 3:43 (both of them).


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:56 PM

Fred Eaglesmith huh? ... I need to dig out "Lipstick, Lies, and Gasoline" if for nothing else to drool over the title.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:57 PM

On topic? Oh, right.

I'm looking forward to what changes are in the works at arlo.net, meself. I used to lurk there way back in the day, but then it got dodgy for awhile, and I never went back.

Used to be on the Folk Alliance list, but there was too much fighting and bickering there for my tastes.

There really aren't any good North American folk forums online for the generalists.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 04:02 PM

"If you're not part of the problem, you're only lurking." - Buck Mulligan, above

Best one I've heard in a while. Thanks, I'm stealing it. My new mantra at least for today.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 04:03 PM

"Max makes the rules"

yup! and so far, they include MY freedom to poke at those who won't use a name ...

(gee it's sorta fun to see 17 guests all arguing about who they are!Kinda makes my point for me!)


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Ebbie
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 04:06 PM

Your saying, Guest, that if everyone used the same name it would be worse brought up an old memory.

When I was a kid in perhaps 4th grade (USA) a performer with a troupe of dogs came to the local high school and we all trooped over there.

This performer had 7 German Shepherd dogs, each of them named 'Kelly', all grouped in a semicircle. He told us to tell him which dog should do a certain trick or activity and we'd say things like: The third from the left. Without a detectable signal to the dogs he would say, Kelly, go pick up the ball and bring it to me. Or, Kelly, stand on your hind legs and twirl around and sit back down.

And danged if the dog didn't do that.

Now, I know that he had signals that he had trained them to but we certainly didn't pick up on it. It was great entertainment.

Shall we try it? *G*


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 04:11 PM

♂ ..♀..♥...


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 04:19 PM

Bill, Clinton, Ebbie, Giok, et al

I'm sorry you are all so unpopular no one will play with you on the Saturday of a long holiday weekend.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Peter T.
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 04:42 PM

I only post here, though I belong to a number of other groups; however, my posting here has dwindled a lot, as Mudcat early on answered most of my burning questions. But occasionally I have a new burning question (cf. Piedmont style).

My view about guests is that they are our guests while they are here, and we should treat them like guests. It is nice to have guests, don't you think? If they don't wan't to give their name, that is fine, as long as they act like guests.   Of course if they start peeing on your carpet (like Woody Guthrie seems to have done) then one should show them the door (even if they are Woody Guthire).

yours,

Peter T.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 04:49 PM

Burning question, etiquette division:

What to do with members who pee on the carpet?


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 05:02 PM

Sure, take your time to think about it.

I mean, coming into Mudcat as a guest is akin to being graciously invited in to someone's home, only to discover many members of the household have this dirty little habit, but no one will admit to it, and when you try and mention something about it they scream at you for being rude.

I realize this might take some extra thought.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 05:09 PM

Interesting concept, Peter....but after the initial hello, it is nice to 'introduce' yourself....that's what the blank space is FOR.

To me, a guest who comes into my 'home' and wants to particiate in the activities, but who wears a bag over his head, and refuses to even allow himself to be differentiated from OTHER nameless entities, is not being very friendly.

It is also an interesting notion that those who knowingly and willfully strain the rules of hospitality, then act huffy when someone reacts should be rewarded for their iconoclastic attitude.

The 'guest' designation was never designed to encourage total anonymity, but merely to allow new folk to post and get acquainted and to post from places where they could not set cookies...etc. Most of those who, like me, object to this behavior, would be perfectly satisfied if they'd merely use a consistent name...even if they NEVER became full, cookied members. (I don't think Art Thieme has has a cookie for a couple of years...and there are several other regulars who can't 'register' for whatever reason.


(and we poor, sad souls who can't get anyone to play with us will have just suck it up and entertain ourselves as best we can, I guess...*grin*)


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 05:16 PM

Max is the host and he hasn't a problem Bill. Are you going to continue jumping on his furniture or find a house better suited to you?


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST,5:02
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 05:22 PM

Note to BillD: Mudcat isn't your house.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 05:28 PM

everyone. i have just had a PM that this man is BNP. Do not feed the trolls.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 05:30 PM

Shit. Now the entire forum has to quit the forum, because CLEARLY, we've been infiltrated.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 05:31 PM

what


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: bobad
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 05:39 PM

"Note to BillD: Mudcat isn't your house."

Mudcat is a commune, Max is the landlord.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 05:41 PM

And I'm as welcome here as you and BillD, bobad.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST,#2
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 05:43 PM

I just love this forum. Where else can you go to find such arrogant people in denial?

This one takes the cake: Since I am not a compulsive poster, I generally only use/visit Mudcat when it's in its speedy form.

Posting history shows over 17,500 posts. If you have been a member for 10 years (not likely) and posted once a day, it would average out to 3,650 posts, somewhat shy of your 17,609 posts. You do the math. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.


Guest #2


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 05:44 PM

"Max is the host and he hasn't a problem Bill"

oh, yes, as a matter of fact he does...He noted a long time ago that he didn't like the practice...he just doesn't see it as something 'quite' important enough to ask Jeff to write complex solutions to.(Which, of course, means there's no easy way to inhibit unsociable behavior except by asking... and explaining why so many find it tedious! You 'can' keep posting with a bag over your head...I 'can' keep calling attention to it)

and not 'house'...home....it is almost a "home away from home" for many of us. I am not the owner...just one of the denizens... who has been here almost 10 years. We LIKE nice new people to find us....there are new 'faces' (names) here every week, and most of them seem to like it here...the more, the merrier! As I said a long time ago...you can be "Turnip" for all I care...but 27 'guests' are a pain!


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 05:48 PM

BillD, that was your eleventh post to this thread. I think we've got your message. At least those of us 27 guests who aren't blind.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Ebbie
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 05:49 PM

Guest, just who is the troll around here? The Guest who started this thread- and is behaving appropriately - or the Guest who warns us against the first one, as though s/he could hurt us without saying a word out of the way? Hmmmm? Let's hold our fire until there is a reason to shoot.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 05:49 PM

And I do believe 11 posts screaming the same thing actually qualifies as a serious net tantrum.

Under ten is considered a misdemeanor hissy fit.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 05:51 PM

ah, but do you have a word for 77! ☻


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Peace
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 05:56 PM

When attacked by many people at once, first turn out the lights. Then, anyone you hit is your enemy. The same cannot be said for the enemy.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 06:01 PM

**strategy**...I like it!


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Peace
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 08:27 PM

"ah, but do you have a word for 77! ☻"

Maybe he/she don't, but I do. Have no idea how to pronounce it however.

01110011011001010111011001100101
01101110011101000111100100100000
01110011011001010111011001100101
01101110


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 08:33 PM

So, you boys are too embarrassed that this is the only forum you post to, aren't you?

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Sad little monkeys.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 08:35 PM

strategy yes...team up with Roger and perhaps two "issues" could be solved at once.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 08:41 PM

Maybe people are politely trying to tell you it is none of your business.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 08:50 PM

Actually, other members were participating and we were chugging right along with an interesting thread, until BillD decided to hijack the thread because it was started by an anonymous poster.

Now mind you, I haven't done anything naughty by starting the thread. But the BillD's of this world are very rigid and intolerant. Hence their need to seize control.

But ask me if I really care what others here think.

These threads have been an slightly amusing diversion, while I got gardening and the laundry done today. And it's nice to know I haven't lost my touch. I managed to get a thread closed and a post deleted in a matter of a couple of hours, just by mocking Joe and the clones.

Nice to know I haven't lost my touch. Sadly, that also means nothing has changed around this place, and the whole censorship is sending the place right into the sewer, just as I predicted it would when the "new Mudcat policy" that put Joe in charge of censorship duties was announced a few years back.

I told ya so. Ha ha.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Bobert
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 09:25 PM

Games aside, I'll answer the survey...

Nah!

I only go to two joints... Mah main joint is tweedsblues.net... It's like my home where I feel all comfy and safe... Then I sneak out to Mudcat when them's is asleep and light stink bombs here in the Catbox... I know I shouldn't do it but...

But with limited hours in the day for cyberstuff, hey, between these 2 joints and a few emails from me mom, there ain't no time for blogs... Might of fact, unless either this joint or Tweeds is consideder a blog, I don't think I've ever been to one...

Hope this of some help to ya', GUEST... I kinda like you but, hey, I've always had an attraction fir *most* GUESTs... Sho nuff had... GUESTs is like the guy in that song by Bon Jovi "I'm a Cowboy"... In my next life I want to be a GUEST... Sho nuff do...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Teribus
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 09:27 PM

hesperis - 15 Apr 06 - 01:35 PM

"Ever heard of hospitality? Or of innocent until proven guilty?"

If you have then you will realise that patently such concepts do not exist here, unless you are only prepared to sycophantically go with the flow.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 10:28 PM

Most of us "Guests" remain Guests because you close minded people pick fights over even the simplest of things like a harmless little survey and debate every single point to death. Look at 90% of the BS threads and you will find insults, obnoxious comments, racism and downright hostility. Starting a battle because someone does not want to choose a fake name is the height of stupidity. If you don't want to speak to "Guest" then don't. Just don't bother posting because all that you do is start a problem. Last I heard, most of the countries that Mudcatters live in are still democracies (not counting that Bush is becomming a bit of a dictator). Why not let everyone choose as they please without ridiculing, insulting, namecalling, etc. Try to be a little more friently. Life is to short for constant negativism. Maybe if more of you felt that way then more of us "Guests" would feel comfortable enough to choose a name.

This is just one "Guest's" opinion. But,like usual, it will probably be ignored...or, more likely, ridiculed.

And, by the way, what is BNP?


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 10:58 PM

BNP stands for Bring No Peanuts. There are a couple of primates who hang out here and they don't need any encouraging. But they are both vacationing at the moment so I suspose we could bring lots of peanuts and bugger the consequences.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 11:07 PM

It stands for the British National Party, and Brit posters here use it as a euphemism for calling people Nazis and fanning the flames.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 11:41 PM

Hey Brother Bobert, thanks for the lift.

And don't worry about them asshole guests, any more than you worry about them asshole members. They all flame me too, as you can see around here today. I'm an equal opportunity flame recipient.

Which makes me flame retarded I think.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Peace
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 12:35 PM

"It stands for the British National Party, and Brit posters here use it as a euphemism for calling people Nazis and fanning the flames."

They ARE Nazis cocksuckers. No fuckin' euphemism at all.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 12:48 PM

Please do not respond to trolling posts about the BNP it is only done to cause trouble. You may note that our bored Guest said "Who are the BNP anyway" when nobody had mentioned them previously in this thread, that was only done to sow discord.
Giok ☺


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 07:20 PM

I am a member of and post from time to time on three email distribution lists about banjos.

Mudcat is the only forum I follow and post to regularly. Just occasionally I'll touch another site, but it's very infrequent. And for whatever it's worth, Mudcat is my home page.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: melodeonboy
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 08:18 PM

I initially intended to respond to GUEST (i.e. the one who started this thread) with the information that he required, but as he appears to be far more interested in being belligerent than gathering information, I don't think I'll bother.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Leadfingers
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 08:29 PM

I'll just post the 100th to this !


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 17 Apr 06 - 05:46 AM

What a boring life some people must lead!


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: billybob
Date: 17 Apr 06 - 07:50 PM

Never go any where else, but then I am a luddite and new to all this!


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Apr 06 - 09:40 PM

Well, my survey didn't do so well. Seems folks would rather just beat up on me than have a little fun. And if your idea of fun IS beating up on me, it's your choice to be a sadist.

Anyway, OTOneH I am mildly surprised that after all these years, more Mudcatters haven't branched out to other forums, especially considering all the fun innovations online there have been in recent years.

But OTOtherH, I guess I'm not surprised that the place remains as insular as it is. Inbreeding generally fosters more inbreeding.

Thanks to those who took the thread at face value, and at least tried to have a little fun with me, rather than at my expense. Y'all know who you are.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Apr 06 - 10:05 PM

More Mudcatters haven't branched out to other forums because most other forums wouldn't put up with their petty arguments, hostility and just outright being impolite. In any other forum that I've been to there has not been such a large quantity of censored posts, threads cut off and people banned or threatened to be banned as there is here. Most other sites have members who treat each other civily and politely. They certainly don't jump on you because you don't agree with them or refuse to use some fictitious name. Let em stay here is the mud where they belong. Perhaps there is a very good reason why this site is called Mudcat. There's sure a lot of mud being tossed and crawled in.


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 17 Apr 06 - 11:39 PM

YEAH! Checked Out... Years and years ago.

Very few of my old friends check in on a yearly basis (Alzheimers and they forgot the pathway?)

Sincerely,
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 17 Apr 06 - 11:52 PM

I fell into the MC because it was a "tight community" that had a "well spring" emmenating from Susan and Dick's DT. It was hosted and grounded in Max's Delta-Blues

Then came the "critter names," then came the self-declared-witchs, and the "battle of the wiccans" with healing prayers and finally, the UK on-invasion.

I returned to various old newsgroups, and BBS, and "performance based" clusters that required "acknowledgment of sources" and vivid, voracious, vidio-conferencing, with validation.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

This place pre-cursed Wikipedia as a source for un-substantiated "BS."


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 18 Apr 06 - 12:04 AM

I have promised, and promised and promised before....



I will not LOOK....muchless post....BELOW THE LINE



I have stumbled and pledge, once again, to stay above the line.



Sincerely,

Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST,Joe_F
Date: 18 Apr 06 - 09:51 PM

I browse a dozen or so newsgroups & a couple of blogs. I used to post a fair amount on rec.music.folk until the Mudcat sucked all the juice out of it. I still post a fair amount on alt.usage.english. Occasionally on soc.motss, alt.suicide.holiday, and some of the Gnuish ngs. I used to be a regular on alt.books.george-orwell but it got taken over by boors. I used to be a regular on the Bears Mailing List but it got taken over by copyright prigs & recently Hurricane Katrina pretty near did it in.

--- Joe Fineman    joe_f@verizon.net

||: Piracy, n.: Commerce without its follyswaddles, just as God made it. :||


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