SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:50 PM

Au contraire.

Authentic anons and pseudos know that 3:44 and 3:34 aren't guests at all, but Mudcat members feeling stymied by the likes of me and 3:43 (both of them).

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST,Jim
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:49 PM

Getting back on topic; I also post on the Mandolin Cafe and the Banjo Hang-Out. Sometimes I post on Homespun Tape's message board as well. Oh, I've also posted on the Fred Eaglesmith Digest and Port Putley.

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:47 PM

well for you who think it's just insignificant words when nameless people post them ...it sure brings out some opinionated responses and evidently closely-held beliefs.

Funny how insignificant words from nameless, insignificant non-entities can do that.

This wasn't an issue and didn't cloud over anything until a member brought it up.

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:44 PM

I agree with the 03:34 GUEST. This could get confusing if no one used a name. Of course, if everyone used the same name it'd be just as bad.

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:43 PM

You dislike me! You really, really dislike me!

                               --Sallie Gardens

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:43 PM

Clinton people refusing to engage in confrontation does not mean they have been stymied. Have a quick once over on the need to win thread. I mean when you have a spare minute of course.

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:41 PM

Stymied again eh....

it's no surprise

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:39 PM

Ok thanks for telling me where to start.

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:38 PM

Start by wishing you had anything...   Even half a clue would be a huge step forward for ya...

If you had half a clue you wouldn't feel the need to try to put words into my 'mouth'.... nowhere did I say I had everything, did I...

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:37 PM

Bill you seem to be having trouble the basic concept that Max owns the site and makes the rules. Do you go into other peoples homes and tell them how they shold have decorated?

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:35 PM

yep...that's what it should tell you....that most members, even those who disagree on many things, agree on THIS issue. As you see, it causes debate that overshadows the original question...so being smugly anonymous is possible, but not very rewarding, no matter HOW you think it should be.

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:34 PM

How I wish I had everything...just like you.

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:34 PM

Hey Guest,

If we all do this, how will anyone no who's posting and be able to refer back to other postings. After all, you don't want to be blamed for something stoopid that I say, do you?

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:32 PM

I'll wager, more seriously than anyone around here takes you....

At least I have the capacity...   You got nothing.

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:28 PM

Clinton you having a name does not make anyone take you seriously. Hate to be the one to break it to you.

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:25 PM

It means that contrary to your assertion, others DO share the same (Or similar at least) opinion in this matter....

So take your passive-agressive attempts at flame-bait, and see if someone will let you exchange them for half a clue

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: BuckMulligan
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:21 PM

Close, Heric: If you're not part of the problem, you're only lurking.

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: heric
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:13 PM

Mudcat: If you're not part of the problem, you're pretty near non-existent.

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:11 PM

I'm a little dense, BillD. What should it tell us? Really, the question is meant to be taken at face value. You've lost me.

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:06 PM

(first time in umpty-leven posts that Clinton & I have been on the same side of an issue...*grin*....oughta tell you something)

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:05 PM

Wazza matter? Stymied?

Wow... that was easy...

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:03 PM

OK. Thanks for sharing.

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:01 PM

Without ownership, your opinions are just farts in the dark.... Just noise and stink....

Ya wanna be taken seriously at all?!?! FKN OWN what you're trying to say... Stand up and be bold... shout your words from the roof for all the world to hear...

Otherwise.... Yer just waisting your time and Max's bandwidth

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 03:01 PM

In your opinion. Not in others.

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 02:58 PM

As I said elsewhere, if you don't attach your face to your words, your words are useless.

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 02:56 PM

Better? I don't think so. And I don't live according to your standards, or BillD's.

Thank goodness.

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 02:50 PM

What have ya got to hide??

Nothing....

You think anyone here cares who you really are? They don't....

It's just better to have a name to associate with the postings.....

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 02:49 PM

I didn't claim for a minute I could control any of the issues...and my 'obsession' is with irrational silliness ☺....

My points are still valid, whether or not you deign to answer them.

(gee...a fellow needs a hobby, right? Mine is asking pointed questions)

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST,1:24
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 02:48 PM

Yes BillD, I'm still ignoring your question.

And I'm so hurt you won't play with me and answer the survey question.

Sorry this is all so hard on you. You have me sympathies.

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 02:47 PM

this "impolite to not use a name or a hokey pseudonym" is beginning to fit the modus operandus of another certain (in)famous member whose monomaniac attempt at foisting change fits the Einsteinian definition of insanity ...

Obviously some people not of the Old Guard don't share the "considered to be inconsiderate" proclamation.

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 02:35 PM

Bill you should get over your obsession and move on. You are playing in Max's house with his rules. NOBODY needs to answer to you.

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 02:27 PM

"Too many unbalanced people here (especially your beloved demonic moderators) for me to give out personal information like that in this forum."

well, no matter what your opinion of the moderators and crazies..*grin*...you still totally ignore the question of why you don't choose a fake name...even when posting a guest with no cookie set. you cannot BE identified by merely adopting a 'handle'

This is the usual pattern for paranoid..or just plain stubborn..guests. "I do it MY way...I don't have to explain to you."...and we don't have to bite on your surveys, either. Stubborness cuts both ways...

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: number 6
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 02:24 PM

I dunno Guest ... the Mudcat lately reminds me of a small town piazza in Italy during the 1950's (like one of those Federico Fellini movies) where all the citizens are are arguing about the communists or the facists, no room for the in between, or for one who wants to discuss culinary delights, cultural music of the area, joking around, sharing info .. and if ya did facism, or communism comes into play ... the arguing eventually evolves from throwing pasta into ones faces and eventually to throwing punches ... I guess I should head down south for a while, down to Sicily .. it's pretty well balanced thanks to the Costa Nostra ... I'll come back north once the 1980's rolls around ... I hear communism and fasism has pretty well faded into the the concrete and clay by then. No more bullies. The people are actually out and about in the piazza actually enjoying life, laffing, joking, sharing stories, music abounds through the piazza, and the food, well there actually eating it not throwing it inot each others faces.

sIx

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 02:16 PM

Guest, I will clarify, but I'm not interested in being baited out of patience.

Since I am not a compulsive poster, I generally only use/visit Mudcat when it's in its speedy form. "When it was fast, it was very very fast." When it's slow, or full of crap, I have lots and lots of other music-oriented things to do.

Other fora with all their bells and whistles that are slow, are ALWAYS slow.

See how quick a flamewar can get going and, in an instant, out of hand at Mudcat, is the proof of the pudding.

~Susan
Cable modem user

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: bobad
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 02:15 PM

I will respond to you the same way I respond to anonymous surveyors that phone my home - CLUNK.

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 02:12 PM

Life is too short to post at only one message board....

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 02:05 PM

I've joined and briefly participated in other forums (on other interests), but got tired of the design, slow speed, and less-evolved state of the membership.

LOL

As opposed to Mudcat, which is zippy fast, never goes down and has a membership where everybody loves everybody and bitter feuds never break out?

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Maryrrf
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 02:00 PM

I post on a couple of other forums. Both are moderated and registration is required. The moderators do not hesitate to reprimand members for personal attacks and, if necessary, to delete posts. On one forum it is required, unless there is a very good reason (and you can pm the moderator to explain) that you use your real name (first and last). The other forum requires a small payment ($15.00 per year) in order to post on all topics (a few topics are free and open to the public). I post much more often to these forums than to Mudcat. I like the fact that some degree of civility is imposed. I know Max and many Mudcatters don't believe in censorship and that's okay, but I feel that the other two forums I belong to run more smoothly. There's nothing like Mudcat for getting song, lyric or any type of folk music information though. And I quite like many of the folks on Mudcat.

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: hesperis
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 01:35 PM

Some do, some don't. I post elsewhere much more frequently.

I really wish that many members here were not so allergic to the idea of namelessness. Post traumatic stress syndrome is not the fault of every guest, only of the ones who used to make trouble, and that was years ago. So members, lighten up. Sometimes you don't need an "identity" in order to communicate, yeesh. Max allows it, deal with it rather than bitching at every new guest and making all us members look horribly cliqueish.

Ever heard of hospitality? Or of innocent until proven guilty? Bah. You're just making it worse on yourselves by reacting this way instead of with a generous heart.

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 01:24 PM

Taken at face value, bee dub.

Yes, the other forums I use I provide a regular user name, and are member only.

No, I won't give you links or any other information about them, because I don't want Mudcatters stalking me online.

Too many unbalanced people here (especially your beloved demonic moderators) for me to give out personal information like that in this forum.

I use a number of different user names online, but I have learned not to ever use my real name as a user name in forums, newsgroups, etc. People I want to know my true identity, know it. Those I don't want to know it, for the most part, don't.

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 01:17 PM

GUEST, what I'm about to say is a serious inquiry, no smart-assedness intended.

Since you say you choose not to share your identity on the WWW, and since you say you post to a number of forums, I'd be interested in knowing how common it is for forums to allow totally anonymous posting? Seems like every forum I've ever been to other than this one requires that one become a member before being allowed to post. Most of them allow viewing by non-members, but posting by members only. Maybe I've just not found the others which allow guest posting. Could you, perhaps, provide a link or two?

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 01:07 PM

" I just choose not to share it on the world wide web."

then use "Turnip".....(but, then, you knew you weren't required to use YOUR name...)

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: LilyFestre
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 12:52 PM

The internet is a mighty big place and I have found a few forums that I vist regularly. Mudcat Cafe is a nice place but it isn't the only forum on the block. :)

Michelle, The Happy Wanderer :)

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 12:46 PM

I do have a name BillD. I just choose not to share it on the world wide web.

So fuck the survey idea. Let's talk about me instead.

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 12:44 PM

I...ad most others...do not NEED to know who you are....as I have been saying for years, you can call yourself Rumplestiltskin, and no one will know anything more than that...it is still polite to HAVE a name.

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 12:30 PM

♫ "Home, home on the Mudcat..." ♫

I've joined and briefly participated in other forums (on other interests), but got tired of the design, slow speed, and less-evolved state of the membership. I didn't really like the added features many of them had (self-edit, etc.), although I enjoyed looking at them to see how they worked. I found the admins/mods tended to be less satisfactory too, for various reasons.

~Susan

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Ebbie
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 12:30 PM

Hmmmmm. I was going to respond but Bill D and Giok's views persuade me.

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 12:29 PM

Well, you aren't going to find out who I am, but truly, I'm just curious. Used to be, most regulars here only came and posted here. I'm guessing that has changed, but may well be wrong about it. Unlike many here, being wrong doesn't trouble me much, as my identity as a human being isn't any more linked to being right than it is to having an internet identity.

You can participate in the survey or not. Doesn't matter. I did it on a whim. The thread will become whatever people here make it become. I'm not worried about that either.

Pretty soon, I'll be done with breakfast, tea & emails and I'll be out enjoying the day. Maybe I'll get back to check the results this weekend, maybe not. If others are curious and want to particpate, fine. If others choose to make the thread about anonymous guest posting, go for it.

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 12:26 PM

you would get a MUCH better response if you would simply adopt a NAME for the sake of easier communication.

It make no difference why some feel like this small courtesy is an imposition on their sense of ....whatever....but the fact remains that total anonymity is considered less than considerate..

suit yerself...

Subject: RE: SURVEY: How many post to Mudcat ONLY?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 12:24 PM

I am suspicious of someone not using their own name and trying to conduct an opinion poll for no given reason, and feel that it could be used either for or against this site.
I therefore want to know who you are, and why you require this information.
Giok