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Tune Req: The Lakes of Shilin

GUEST,DG 18 Apr 06 - 08:38 AM
GUEST,IS 19 Apr 06 - 03:49 AM
GUEST,DG 19 Apr 06 - 04:16 AM
pavane 19 Apr 06 - 10:27 AM
jonm 19 Apr 06 - 10:35 AM
Mick Pearce (MCP) 19 Apr 06 - 03:00 PM
GUEST,DG 20 Apr 06 - 02:54 AM
GUEST,Yozza 26 Sep 13 - 05:31 PM
GUEST 26 Sep 13 - 06:52 PM
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Subject: The Lakes of Shillin
From: GUEST,DG
Date: 18 Apr 06 - 08:38 AM

Hello everyone,

I'm in the process of working out the above song, particularly the Nic Jones version, but I also like the Alasdair Roberts more sombre version as well.
However,
I have absolutely no idea where to start when it comes to working out the tune... Does anyone have any tips? Tunings? Chords?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Cheers,

-Dg


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Subject: RE: The Lakes of Shillin
From: GUEST,IS
Date: 19 Apr 06 - 03:49 AM

I have the 'From The Devil To A Stranger' LP by Nic Jones, and it gives notes for the tunings on some songs - but not 'The Lakes of Shilin.' I don't know the source for Nic's melody. The Alasdair Roberts version appears to be derived from Sheila Stewart's one, which she calls 'Willie Leonard', but I couldn't tell you anything about the tuning!

Sorry - this isn't a very helpful response.

Good luck...

IS


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Subject: RE: The Lakes of Shillin
From: GUEST,DG
Date: 19 Apr 06 - 04:16 AM

Thanks for the response... I've been searching far and wide for this one with no luck.
I'll see if I can find any more info and post it up here if I do. It really is a great tune though. I'm surprised more people have done it.


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Subject: RE: The Lakes of Shillin
From: pavane
Date: 19 Apr 06 - 10:27 AM

Also known as 'Lakes of Cool Flyn' I think, and other variants of the name, so you could look for them?


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Subject: RE: The Lakes of Shillin
From: jonm
Date: 19 Apr 06 - 10:35 AM

The Peter Kennedy book, "Folksongs of Britain and Ireland" has a version of both words and melody. The tune is pretty much the same as the Martin Carthy/John Kirkpatrick version, but would at least give you a start for the Nic Jones version. I don't know the Alasdair Roberts one.


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Subject: Tune Add: THE LAKES OF SHILIN
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 19 Apr 06 - 03:00 PM

Nic's tune for THE LAKES OF SHILIN (one l in his spelling!) is more like The Banks of the Bann tune than the one I use (learned from Dave Burland's singing originally IIRC. I haven't bothered looking at the other sources I've got for the tune, since it's Nic's you're interested in).

I've put a transcription of the tune below (I've used the general abc ornament sign - the tilde - but it's usually an upper mordent. It's also not always clear when he slides from a note on one word to the note on the following word, something I've noted before that he sometimes does, and I haven't tried to notate that) . Nic sings it in F and at a quick listen I'd assume he plays it in E with a capo on fret 1. The arrangement isn't very complicated and if I have time this week I might try and transcribe it. (I don't usually bother; I always do my own arrangements, but it can be an interesting exercise).

Mick



X: 1
T:The Lakes of Shilin
M:3/4
L:1/4
S:Nic Jones - The Devil To A Stranger
K:F
F/F/|F> F (F/E/)|~D C C/D/|F F> G|A2
w:Well it's ear-ly one_ morn-ing Bil-ly Hen-ry a-rose
z/C/|A A> B|(A/G/) F F|A c (c/d/)|c2
w:And straight to his com_rade's bed-chamb-er he_ goes
c/d/|d2 d/f/|~d c (A/B/)|c3/2 (F/4E/4) D|D2
w:Say-ing rise lov-ing com-rade let_ no-bo_dy know
D/E/|F> A G/F/|~D C> D|F HF (F/G/)|F2||
w:To the dark and chil-ly wat-ers a-bath-ing we'll_ go.


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Subject: RE: The Lakes of Shillin
From: GUEST,DG
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 02:54 AM

Thanks do much for that, when I get back from work tonight, I'll give it a go.

Cheers,

-Dg


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Lakes of Shilin
From: GUEST,Yozza
Date: 26 Sep 13 - 05:31 PM

Has anyone come up with the tuning that nic jones uses for The Lakes of Shilin?


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Lakes of Shilin
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Sep 13 - 06:52 PM

http://www.folkmusic.net/htmfiles/inart_nicjones_guitarstyle.htm

Worth the read, Yozza.


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