Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin

Subject: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: GUEST,Fidjit
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 04:36 AM

Heard many songs I'd not heard before at this years Miskin.
Chasing the words for the following, please :
Don't know if these are the tittles or not

When Old Men Sing

It*s All For The Sake Of My Darling

Down By The Dockyard Gate : Shep Wooley

Faithless Sally Brown

A Sailor Ain't A Sailor Any More

As We Go Round The Round House : Charles Causley

Five and Twenty Ponies Riding In The Dark : Rudyard Kiplin

Grumpy Old Men Of Old England : John Connoly

Where Ravens Feed : ? Martin Wydnam Read??

Along The Road Of Time


There were hundreds of others too, but what can you do? Can't sing all of them. Well we'll try.
Anyway any chance that on of you lot know any of these. Great to hear from you

Chas

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: GUEST,Fidjit
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 04:55 AM

OkDave Webber. Found three on here.

Five And Twenty Ponies = A Present From The Gentlemen : Rudyard Kipling/Pete Bellamy. Sould have known he'd done that

A Sailor Ain't A Sailor is by Tom Lewis

Along The Road Of Time = Parting Song, by Dave Webber

Along the road of time : is the last line of the chorus.

Still need the others please.

Chas

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 04:55 AM

You'll find several of these in either the DT or the forum:

When All Men Sing (Keith Scowcroft/Derek Gifford - forum)
A Sailor Ain't A Sailor (Tom Lewis - DT)
Four And Twenty Ponies (Kipling - forum)
The Parting Song (Dave Webber - DT - "Along the road of time")

Surprisingly I can't see Graeme Miles' "Where Ravens Feed" in the forum; I'll post it later if noone else does.

Here We Go Round The Round House was a book by Charles Causely, but I don't know any song.

There are a few Sally Browns in the DT & forum, but I don't know if they're the ones you want.

Don't know about the Grumpy Old Men either.


Hope this gives you a start anyway.
Mick

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 04:56 AM

(cross-posted with your 2nd post)

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 05:01 AM

Last Shanty

Actual title of A Sailor Aint... by Tom Lewis

Keith.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 05:02 AM

Can anyone point me at a recording and/or words and dots of the second or third song Tori Lang sang - the one about the musical muse being a hard taskmistress and driving successive generations of musical performers? I didn't even get the title.

Subject: Lyr Add: WHERE RAVENS FEED (Graeme Miles)
From: Sooz
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 06:06 AM

Where Ravens Feed
Graeme Miles

I roam and ramble in lonely places
All in the coolness of the rain
Over rolling hill and rugged mountains
Over sandy heath and grassy plain
And should you ask am I contented
I'd answer yes oh yes indeed
For my love it is for lonely places
Where springs leap down where ravens feed

I seek and find these lonely places
Where bounds the hare and deer run
Over crags of grey and mossy boulders
Shaded from the morning sun
And should you ask am I at ease there
I'd answer yes oh yes indeed
For my heart it dwells in lonely places
Where springs leap down where ravens feed

I yearn and long for lonely places
Where hunts the fox and badgers play
Where midnight stars are at their brightest
Where snow lies deep where mists hang grey
And should you ask am I at home there
I'd answer yes oh yes indeed
For my desires are for lonely places
Where springs leap down where ravens feed

I lose myself in lonely places
On heathered moor and bracken fell
And with the wind hold conversation
It always has so much to tell
And should you ask am I at ease there
I'd answer yes oh yes indeed
For I'll always need these lonely places
Where springs leap down where ravens feed

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: GUEST,Fidjit
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 06:08 AM

Thanks Mike. Nice singing at Miskin.

"Here we go round the roundhouse" was sung by John Connolly at Llantrisant Folk Club on the Wednesday before Miskin. He wrote the tune himself so will no doubt be on a Cd soon. He also did his own "Grumpy Old Men" To the tune of, hard times come again no more, if I remember correctly. Think the brain is still working after Miskin.

He also had a song about the dirty postcards of the fifty's etc. With a great chorus

Send me a postcard, dirty as you please
Of big fat ladies, with their knickers round their knees
Send me a postcard, give the stamp a lick
The weathers clear, Wish you were here
Come home and kiss me quick

Richard. You in love with Tori Lang? Or something? Can't help I'm afraid as I didn't get to hear her. Too many others there. Good wasn't it

Chas

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: GUEST,Fidjit
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 06:11 AM

Hey thanks Sooz

Any more for any more

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: MoorleyMan
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 07:26 AM

Well Fidjit, that was an interesting selection - and I loved the mondegreen of When Old Men Sing !!!

MCP and others have beat me to it with the details, etc, so I'll add what I know. John Conolly's song is a relatively new one, which he prefaced last time I heard him sing it with the comment that he keeps on adding verses in the car on the way to gigs and tends to select a few different ones to perform each time!

It*s All For The Sake Of My Darling could be any one of a number of different songs, if I put my mind to it I could probably think of a few with that phrase or something like it in the lyric.

The Shep Woolley song is Down By The Dockyard Wall and if you want a recording it's on Derek Gifford's latest CD (Sunny Corners).

Faithless Sally Brown - as Mick sez, this could be any one of a large number of shanties (or forebitters even).... any more clues?

A Sailor Ain't A Sailor Any More - the proper title of this Tom Lewis song is The Last Shanty.

Wish I'd been at Miskin - each year I hear it's better and better - maybe I'll make it next year.

Keep on fidjit-in'!
Cheers,
M

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: GUEST,Paul Burke
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 07:36 AM

Here's one Faithless Sally Brown. It's a poem by the wonderful Thomas Hood (1789-1845).

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: Snuffy
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 08:12 AM

Paul, that's the one Fidjit is looking for: Rosie Marshall sang it in Mike Gibson's big sing in the Cottage.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: Crane Driver
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 10:20 AM

For the Kipling/Bellamy number (Five and twenty ponies . . .), we went back to Kipling's words, which can be found in "Pook of Pook's Hill" - it's rather unimaginatively called "Smugglers' Song". Seems that Mr Kipling may have written exceedingly good songs but was sometimes a bit pants at naming them. It's definitely FIVE and twenty ponies, BTW - it was four and twenty blackbirds, but that's another song altogether.

The rhythm of our version is deliberately influenced by the trotting of wild ponies over the moors of the Gower peninsula.

Wasn't it a good weekend?

Andrew & Carole

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: Morticia
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 10:25 AM

* It*s All For The Sake Of My Darling* is, if you were in Nellie Dean's when you heard it, All for me Grog.Should be in the DT.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: GUEST,Fidjit
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 01:12 PM

Thanks Paul and Snuffy. It was that one. Rosie (As her hat was called) said she'd send it to me, but I ain't home yet. Just on my mates lap top.
Andrew and Carole. Can't really put faces to all the mudcats I met at Miskin. I'll try harder next time. Yes it was very good.

Morleyman. Thanks we seem to be getting there. Your a great lot
Morticia. All for me grog I know, but probably that one. I'll check it out.

Chas

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 01:19 PM

Chas,
Who said your be back,or is that to see me again to buy you your pint .
Scooby

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: GUEST,Seaking at work
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 03:33 PM

Slight thread abuse so apologies.

I sang a song called 'Road to Aberdeen' a couple of times at Miskin and was asked about it's origin. Other than I heard Nancy Griffith sing it originally I know little more(other than it's great to sing). Does anyone know a bit more about the song please, Google just gives me sites like Multimap when I try a search.

Thanks
Chris

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 04:13 PM

Seaking - it was written by Nanci - lyrics on her site at: Road To Aberdeen. Look like hearking back to UK origins.

Mick

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Apr 06 - 03:21 PM

Refresh for Chas

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 22 Apr 06 - 04:06 PM

Crane Driver:
Yes, the original was "Five and Twenty Ponies" (or "Smugglers' Song") as you so rightly state, only the book was "Puck of Pook's Hill"

CHEERS

Nigel

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: Crane Driver
Date: 22 Apr 06 - 04:15 PM

OK - so I pucked up again. What's new?

;-}

Subject: Lyr Add: A Smugglers' Song
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 22 Apr 06 - 04:28 PM

A SMUGGLERS SONG
Rudyard Kipling

If you wake at midnight, and hear a horse's feet
Don't go drawing back the blinds, or looking in the street
Them that asks no questions isn't told a lie
Watch the wall my darling when the Gentlemen go by.
Chorus:
       Five-and-twenty ponies trotting through the dark
       Brandy for the Parson, 'baccy for the Clerk
       Laces for a lady, letters for a spy
       And watch the wall my darling, while the Gentlemen go by.

Running round the woodlump if you chance to find
Little barrels, roped and tarred, all full of brandy-wine
Don't you shout to come and look, nor use 'em for your play
Put the brushwood back again - and they'll be gone next day.
Chorus:

If you see the stable door setting open wide;
If you see a tired horse lying down inside;
If your mother mends a coat cut about and tore;
If the lining's wet and warm - don't you ask no more!
Chorus:

If you met King George's men, dressed in blue and red,
You be careful what you say, and mindful what is said.
If they call you, "Pretty maid", and chuck you 'neath the chin
Don't you tell where no one is, nor yet where no ones been.
Chorus:

Knocks and footsteps round the house - whistles after dark
You've no call for running out till the house-dogs bark
Trusty's here, and Pincher's here, and see how dumb they lie
They don't fret to follow when the gentlemen go by!
Chorus:

If you do as you've been told, likely there's a chance
You'll be given a dainty doll, all the way from France
With a cap of Valenciennes and a velvet hood
A present from the Gentlemen, along 'o being good.

Chorus:
    Five-and-twenty ponies trotting through the dark
    Brandy for the Parson, 'baccy for the Clerk
    Them that asks no questions isn't told a lie
    Watch the wall my darling when the Gentlemen go by.


From Rudyard Kipling's "Puck of Pook's Hill"
NP



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Re-submitted as relevent to the thread, and earlier submissions do not appear to have been 'harvested'. Also earlier submissions include typos which have been copied from one thread to another. (I think I've caught them all) I've re-checked this against my copy of the book, which is why as well as correcting a couple of errors I've followed the book's standards and capitalsed 'Parson' 'Clerk' and 'Gentlemen'

CHEERS
Nigel

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: SussexCarole
Date: 22 Apr 06 - 04:36 PM

Hi Nigel

The third line of last verse should be...You'll be GIVE a dainty doll.....not given.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: SussexCarole
Date: 22 Apr 06 - 04:39 PM

&& should be if you MEET Kings George's men...not met.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 23 Apr 06 - 03:59 AM

Carole:
O.k. on the 'meet king George's men', I thought I'd found all the typo's
My copy of the book definitely reads 'given' although scansion suggests it should be sung as a single syllable giv'n

CHEERS
Nigel

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: GUEST,Brian
Date: 23 Apr 06 - 05:08 AM

Just an addition to the spelling corrections.
Our copy gives to 4th line of the 2nd verse as

"Put the brishwood back again "

A&C see you at F&H

cheers

Brian

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Apr 06 - 11:19 AM

Fidjit
"All For The Sake Of Me Darling" is the "Hull Shanty" written by Lynne Paris (most likely sung by Lynne at Miskin). If I meet up with Lynne at the club tonight I'll ask her for the words.

KRex

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: Fidjit
Date: 23 Apr 06 - 12:42 PM

Cor! This what I like. All helping hands to the pump. I could get along well wiv you lot. Thanks Nigel you tried your best. Back to spelling skool. They just cought you out. Keep 'em coming. I'm enjoying this.

Chas

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Apr 06 - 01:01 PM

Grumpy Old Men is a recent composition - Mr Conolly is still adding verses to it!

There's also "When some men sing" (Malcolm Austen parody of Scowie's song)...

Kitty

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: Fidjit
Date: 23 Apr 06 - 02:18 PM

Now only need the following.


"All For The Sake Of My Darling". Who was it that sang that?

"Grumpy Old Men". I'll get that from John Connolly

"Down By The Dockyard Wall". That's Shep's So I'll get on to him.

"As We Go Round The Round House". I'll chase that up vis Pete Bellamy


Thanks for all the help.
Chas






Rosie came though trumps now that I'm at hame.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: MBSLynne
Date: 23 Apr 06 - 02:33 PM

Ok...faces to names..I'm not sure who you are Fidjit. Are you the Chas that partnered me in Herbaceous Border?

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: Fidjit
Date: 23 Apr 06 - 03:14 PM

Probably. I am here with my mates "The Fidjits" here >Check us out

Chas

Subject: Lyr Add: THE HULL SHANTY
From: GRex
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 03:41 AM

THE HULL SHANTY       by Lynne Paris

      Chorus: And it's Yo Ho Ho, a sailor I will be be
               Climbing up the riggin' like a sailor ought to be
               It's up with the anchor and down with the grog
               And it's all for the sake of me darlin'.

      I was four and twenty years when first I went to sea
      To make a fortune for me darlin' and me
      No money in me pocket, it didn't bother me
      And it's all for the sake of me darlin'.

       Chorus

      At four and twenty years I sailed the cruel sea
      The captain was a bastard but it didn't bother me
      My darlin' would be waiting upon that homeward shore
      And it's all for the sake of me darlin'.

       Chorus

      I sailed across the oceans, though they be far and wide
      Encountered many dangers and many fears beside
      Made a fortune to please me darlin' bride
      And it's all for the sake of me darlin'.
         
       Chorus

      Since first I went to sea, a decade has gone by
      I took me fortune home to meet the homeward bride
      Me darlin' was not waiting upon that homeward shore
      She's gone off to marry another.

       Chorus X 2

Lynne tells me that she wrote this tongue-in- cheek song in 1996
and that she will make the tune available to anyone interested.

         KRex

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 03:46 AM

Can anyone advance me on that song that Tori did? It was the one after "The Miller's Four Daughters" - not the one about the girl's spinning wheel (the name of which I should know but it's eluding me right now)

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: Fidjit
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 04:58 AM

Thanks to KRex and Lynne Paris. That's the one. Good song. Think I remember the tune. Get Lynne to send it to me.
Another day at the office.
Chas

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: Splott Man
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 11:11 AM

MGAS sings The Miller's Four Daughters too.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 11:27 AM

Hi Richard,
Thank you for all your comments - I've noticed a few postings relating to my set. If you'd like to email me on [e-mail] (yes that is two underscores - don't ask!) then hopefully I can help :-)
Best wishes,
Tori

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 11:58 AM

I have mailed Tori, thank you. Be careful with your email on public forums.....

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: Fidjit
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 02:17 PM

Ned. What does that one sound like? Seem to have missed it.
Only caught Hilary in the Scouts Hut prior to Bill Mckinnon, Ember and Shep Woolley.

I was at the, First Stirings of Spring, with Ken Stevens.
Also At Mike Gibson's Big Sing.

Others I managed to hear were, Early Birds. Dave & Ann Reader and Trefor & Vicki Williams.
Lynne Heraud & Pat Turner, Ian & Graham, the young fiddlers Kathannie. And of course Anahata & Mary Humphreys.
Plus the Ceilidh with Tarrantella and Herbacious Border on the patio.

Heard lots at the sessions over Nellie Dean's and in Nelly Dean's.

Been looking at the 2005 photos to try and place everyone.
Still having to sing Happy birthday to myself to try and remember my own name.

C er, er, has.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 02:33 PM

Could be Ned the The Weavers four daughters.
Scooby

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: Andy Jackson
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 03:03 PM

Well I missed most of that!! I keep saying I'm going to buy a ticket and enjoy myself one year.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: My guru always said
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 04:16 PM

Aha Miskin Man, Richard has a cunning plan to help you to enjoy some of the concerts this year. See you at Upton, ask me for a quick rummage! Can't have you missing out on your own party!!

Yes Scooby, it was the Weavers (not Millers, honest) Four Daughters by Spurlock which Tori sings too, cracking good song! But I don't think that was the one Richard Bridge is asking about - am sure that he'll have a reply from Tori by now.

Hey Fidgit, Happy Birthday - maybe you can let Pene Azul know the date so we'll not miss it next year! BTW, hardly sang at all in the sessions as it was only thanks to Hawker providing me with the infamous 'Hedgehog Droppings' that I had any chance of getting through my sets. Missed most of the concerts too as I was a-raffling *grin*

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: Fidjit
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 05:42 PM

hey i'm not doing bad for a newcomer. 43 as opposed to andy's 528!!

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: GUEST,Brian
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 10:08 AM

43 as opposed to Andy's 528!!

What, birthdays? I knew Andy was old, but......

cheers

Brian

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: Fidjit
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 01:38 PM

Just like to thank all who helped with the song list I had. Now to try and remember the tunes.

Thanks a bunch

Chas

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs heard at Miskin
From: GRex
Date: 08 May 06 - 02:34 PM

To Fidjit

Chas hoping you still visit this thread. If you are, see my PM regarding the Hull shanty

KRex