BS: Attitude problem?

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 01 May 06 - 04:50 AM

that was an excellent 'pick up of an unconsidered trifle' Autolycus. well I hadn't considered it.

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: autolycus
Date: 30 Apr 06 - 06:39 PM

Sorry,I'm a bit late back to this.

i was just trying to be helpful in saying Roger has asked a specific question, got loads of answers, so can we close this.

I completely missed the point that this is a conversation. Of course. And, as a hard-hearted, bloodless liberal, I have no wish to curtail conversations (or threads).

incidentally, that should have read "permission from you or me to do ....", Roger. "You or I" has to be the subject of the sentence to be grammaticallly correct. Whereas in your sentence, "you or I" is the grammatical object.


   Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: The Shambles
Date: 30 Apr 06 - 05:10 AM

No - I am wrong.

I saw the TV advert last night - it is Kellogs Bran Flakes with Mr S in a light blue jogging suit.

Not logical.

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Apr 06 - 11:24 PM

A cereal killer?

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: The Shambles
Date: 29 Apr 06 - 05:45 AM

On a dead man's door, you can knock forever. But, I repeat myself, sorry

Is he dead then?

It must be have been eating all that Shredded Wheat.

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 10:04 PM

LOL! Oh, the inhumanity of it all! Well, Amos, you can ramble on all you want trying to assassinate the character of a man who has done nothing but exemplify the noblest human virtues for all to emulate, but remember this! "They" will NOT look to a man who cannot even spell "paraplegic"! No, I think not.

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: kendall
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 09:21 PM

On a dead man's door, you can knock forever. But, I repeat myself, sorry.

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: Amos
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 09:20 PM

They would look to someone overweight, inept, bumbling, self-aggrandizing, musically parapalegic...someone like Shatner.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: The Shambles
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 09:20 PM

To boldly judge where no judge has judged before.

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 09:09 PM

Of course not! They would look to someone with a proven track record of leadership, someone whose perspicacity and good judgement is simply beyond question.

Someone like...William Shatner.

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: The Shambles
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 08:59 PM

Noted - but do you really think that selected moderators think they now need permission from you or I to do as they think fit, or rather do just as they wish?

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: Wesley S
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 05:26 PM

Roger - Remember when I said :

Grant our members and guests the serenity to accept the things they cannot change - the courage to change the things they can - and the wisdom to realise that this is a forum open to the public and that they have no control over the posts and ideas of others.

Please note that I said "members and guests". The owner and his selected moderators are in charge and get to run this place as they see fit.

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 03:37 PM

Fear and Loathing at Mudcat Cafe...

The book Hunter S. Thompson should have written! ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: The Shambles
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 03:34 PM

Censorship and attitude rolled into one

Take your pick.....

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: jeffp
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 10:52 AM

Sounds like a refusal to me. You obviously do not truly desire a discussion.

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: The Shambles
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 09:49 AM

Grant our members and guests the serenity to accept the things they cannot change - the courage to change the things they can - and the wisdom to realise that this is a forum open to the public and that they have no control over the posts and ideas of others.
Wesley S

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: jeffp
Date: 27 Apr 06 - 02:45 PM

If you wish to have a discussion, then answer peoples' questions directly with your own words, not by randomly cutting and pasting other peoples' posts over and over.

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: The Shambles
Date: 27 Apr 06 - 02:35 PM

A discussion?

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: gnu
Date: 27 Apr 06 - 02:34 PM

You talkin ta me? You talkin taaa ME? You got a problem with my attitude problem?

Just askin. No problem.

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: jeffp
Date: 27 Apr 06 - 02:29 PM

What is it you do wish for?

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: The Shambles
Date: 27 Apr 06 - 02:21 PM

There is now a 'persecuting aspect of the group'?

Surely not?

Why would you think there would be such an attitude?

Is it because some posters are now seen to wish for some reason to be persecuted - as has been suggested recently?

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 27 Apr 06 - 01:10 PM

I totally agree that attitudes have changed but unfortunately little can be done to change it unless the 'group' wants such change and works mutually for the same goals. I for one prefer things as they were 'a while back' but as with life, one can only move on in the current mode of the group and live with it... or get out of it. I guess I have become a bit thick skinned over time here but I won't become calloused! I try very hard to maintain my 'individuality' as I have seen and personally experienced the Mudcat mob syndrome and would not want to be part of the persecuting aspect of the group. Whether it be Martin Gibson, Me, the moderators or whoever....the group will have its say...won't it!
I enjoy the music section and have learned much from lyrics/knowledge and facts and opinions but I don't visit the BS in an 'involved way' as I feel I would give too much of the inner me away to some who I wouldn't particularly want to know me that well. I prefer to meet 'real people' face to face and can confidently say I have not met a mudcatter yet that I have disliked...and I have met many. This place is unreal as are some of the characters in it....Some find this a great place to role play, some take it seriously, some love to wind others up, some,,,well the list is probably endless but the attitudes will be dictated by the group as a whole overall. Best wishes, Mike.

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: The Shambles
Date: 27 Apr 06 - 11:06 AM

Well I know which of those two attitudes I prefer - how about you?

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 27 Apr 06 - 09:08 AM

Presumably something to do with 'attitude problems' then eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: The Shambles
Date: 27 Apr 06 - 06:14 AM

IMO this thread could now be conveniently closed because of that.

Sometimes many things appear to be done only because they can.

You know what - for many years until our protectors were shown how to do it - our forum managed quite happly with all threads open.

Posters were encouraged to start and contribute to threads - rather than asking for them to be closed and prevent others from contributing to them.

A different attitude seemed to be encouraged then - than is encouraged now.

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 05:39 PM

In the light of the fact that the Mudcat is a wonderful free gift to all of us from Max and the crew (and also from most most Mudcatters to each other), perhaps there is some kind of gratitude problem around here...

I draw your attention to this spin-off thread I started last night - Recognising Psychobabble

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: jeffp
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 04:38 PM

Now, that's entertainment!

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 04:33 PM

now, if we could just get Clinton H. amd Martin Gibson to take on Shambles, we could all just sit back and watch and eat popcorn.

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 04:32 PM

Ha! Ha! Ha! (snort) That's a really sick idea, jeffp. REALLY sick.

Don't worry, I am not going to do it. Hell, I don't even have the time for it.

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: jeffp
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 04:31 PM

LOL

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: GUEST,receptionist at the Mudcat Central
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 04:26 PM

Don't you dare do that jeffp. I have enough filing do do around here.

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: jeffp
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 04:24 PM

Maybe you could start a whole bunch of threads with cut-n-paste of all his insults (without context) and repetitive whining. That seems to work a treat around here.

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 04:20 PM

While we're on this fascinating subject, can anyone suggest how I can get Clinton Hammond to apologize for the few hundred absolutely awful things he has said to me and numerous other people on this forum....get him to mend his belligerent ways and be a nice guy who tries hard not to step on anyone's toes...that sort of thing?

Or should we try to find the Fountain of Youth first?

(grin)

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 04:14 PM

I had a teacher many years ago who allowed his class to discuss why THEY should have certain 'rights'...then walked in the next day and wrote on the blackboard:

"This class is run democratically"
       signed, King Harmon the First

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 04:11 PM

Neither is the USA. In my mind, that is a more significant problem.

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: Wesley S
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 04:06 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: The Shambles - PM
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 04:04 PM

This is not a democracy - or so I have been told.

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: The Shambles
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 04:04 PM

This is not a democracy - or so I have been told.

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: jeffp
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 04:01 PM

Aye

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: autolycus
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 03:28 PM

Roger asked a clear question and has had many, clear answers.

IMO this thread could now be conveniently closed because of that.

All those in favour write "Aye."


   Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 03:07 PM

The moment I saw the title of this thread, I thought, "Aha! There's carrion down there. Something rotting at the side of the road. Must check it out at once. Let me guess who launched the thread. Hmmmm....gee this is tough! Who could it be?"

Perhaps I am not a hawk, but a vulture. ;-D

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 01:30 PM

Roger is like a salmon, Kendall; he will swim upstream to the bitter end. The rest of us simply have to decide whether to accompany him on his journey.

The analogy is not perfect however, there are differences. Seeing the salmon defy the laws of physics is inspiring and magnificent.

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: GUEST,Clogger
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 09:55 AM

I got ATTITUDE ..... no problem!

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: Wolfgang
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 08:56 AM

Could it just be that I wanted some resposes to the question I asked in this thread as a starting point for a discussion? (Shambles)

Very unlikely, see your post from 25 Apr 06 - 06:15 PM.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: kendall
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 08:35 AM

After 7 years of swimming upstream, I'd examine my stand and adjust.

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: The Shambles
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 05:23 AM

What would you do?

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: The Shambles
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 05:04 AM

As I do. First you accept the realities of the situation - if you can't stand the heat - you don't place yourself in the kitchen.

And you politly carry on simply trying to express and evidence a view that you have been treated unfairly even when others would prefer you did not and despite all the methods they think are fair to try and prevent you from doing this.

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 03:07 AM

Shambles...When treated unfairly, how should they behave? As you do? or how you think they should behave?

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 08:30 PM

it wasn't my 'at he chewed.
http://www.mardigrasoutlet.com/details.asp?ProdID=921

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: frogprince
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 08:23 PM

"One person's values = Somebody else's attitude problem" B-D-L

I worked, thank goodness for only a few weeks, in the worst sweatshop situation I've ever seen, for a supplier of car carpets and hardboard car panels. The work pace, catching pieces coming off the press and stacking or boxing them, was often unthinkable. So one day a large ugly gorilla with some sort of foreman's position comes over to the press operator and says, "I don't like the way he's (pointing out a worker) handling those panels." The press operator blurted out, "He's just trying to keep up". The gorilla leaned over him and growled, "You getting an attitude?"

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: jacqui.c
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 06:19 PM

LOL Giok and Kevin.