BS: Gaelic to English translation

Subject: BS: Gaelic to English translation
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 14 May 06 - 05:44 AM

On my way back from this year's Mudcat Eurogathering in Cork, I bought a T-shirt in a souvenir shop which has a number of sheep on it playing various folk instruments :- banjo, accordion, whistle, fiddle and bhodran. There is also the phrase, in Gaelic:
                                                            sin scéal eile

Being on the east side of Ireland at the time, the woman in the shop was less than certain as to the English translation. I tried using an on-line Irish-English dictionary but came up with lots of permutations, none of which made any sense.

Can any Gaelic speakers help me out with a translation ?


DC

Subject: RE: BS: Gaelic to English translation
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 14 May 06 - 06:21 AM

This is all I could come up with Doug, but it seems to fit.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Gaelic to English translation
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 14 May 06 - 06:25 AM

This would seem to clinch it. It's either That's another story, or That's another matter.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Gaelic to English translation
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 14 May 06 - 06:39 AM

Yes it's That's another Story. You threw he there with the first translation, thought it was That's another score.

Subject: RE: BS: Gaelic to English translation
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 14 May 06 - 06:41 AM

Sorry should of said you threw me there, not threw he ! Speed typing again !

Subject: RE: BS: Gaelic to English translation
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 14 May 06 - 06:42 AM

Thanks.

When I realised that I had left the "c" out of scéal, I had another go at the dictionary and came up with much the same conclusion.

Can anyone give a guide to the correct pronunciation ?

DC

Subject: RE: BS: Gaelic to English translation
From: MartinRyan
Date: 14 May 06 - 07:17 AM

Try: shin (as on leg) - schkale - ell - eh
The first three syllables are roughly equally stressed, the last -eh (as in in hesitation) is weaker.

Regards
p.s. And before my fellow pedants come galloping in - yes, it does vary regionally! Not much, though.

Subject: RE: BS: Gaelic to English translation
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 14 May 06 - 07:49 AM

Agreed Martin

Subject: RE: BS: Gaelic to English translation
From: Big Mick
Date: 14 May 06 - 08:21 AM

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A very enjoyable CD. Website here

Subject: RE: BS: Gaelic to English translation
From: GUEST,Brendy
Date: 14 May 06 - 09:20 PM

Sin scór eile, a Dhibhis....

B.

Subject: RE: BS: Gaelic to English translation
From: GUEST,Wee Willie from up the Falls
Date: 15 May 06 - 03:19 PM

Brendy now there is a long lost Soul.

Subject: RE: BS: Gaelic to English translation
From: GUEST,Brendy
Date: 15 May 06 - 04:08 PM

... and that which is lost....

;-)

B.

Subject: RE: BS: Gaelic to English translation
From: GUEST,CrazyEddie
Date: 16 May 06 - 02:15 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Gaelic to English translation
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Mar 15 - 04:00 PM

Can anyone lead me to a recorded pronunciation?

Subject: RE: BS: Gaelic to English translation
From: GUEST,#
Date: 05 Mar 15 - 05:49 PM

http://www.focloir.ie/en/dictionary/ei/pronunciation

Try that and see if it works for you. .

Subject: RE: BS: Gaelic to English translation
From: Thompson
Date: 05 Mar 15 - 06:40 PM

This official Irish-English-Irish dictionary is useful for words and phrases and can be used for audio, though it doesn't have audio for that specific phrase - you'd have to get separate audio for the three words:

sin (pron shin) = that
scéal (pron shkale/shkayul) = story
eile (pron elleh) = other