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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 08 Jun 06 - 07:30 PM Just hope you can 'ride the rails' direct here and not bump into anything else on the way... |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: GUEST,Rufus Date: 08 Jun 06 - 11:45 AM Us rocket sientists know that once you get out of earth's gravitational field the Sun takes over. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 07 Jun 06 - 11:28 PM "Set the controls for the heart of the Sun" and hope that the rockets don;t fallback due to failure on launch.. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: GUEST,Rufus Date: 07 Jun 06 - 11:20 PM The bestest ideas I have heard yet on how to dispose of depleted youranium is to cast it concrete slugs encased in stainless steel and drop 'em into ocean trenches where they will get sucked back down into the mantle of the earth. Or launch them into the Sun. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 05 Jun 06 - 11:48 PM Let the masters decree in the third degree We may live with a portion of peace So all people may see...and albeit agree That aggression must finally cease With a peacetime enduring we shall be insuring A future both caring and deep And in beauty procuring sweet passion's alluring To lift us inspired from our sleep May walking in stride with Jesus give pride That heals with knowing and faith With such kindness inside everyone can abide To the conscience that brings us to grace Shall we wish to enjoy with nary a ploy The enrichment of land, seas and souls Ner again to deploy revenge as a toy To entangle our love with false goals So as One with our hearts we could move from Decartes And take science to where it may florish We shall all play our parts without help from Sartre's And find meaning in all that we nourish So if thinking be good, seems t'me that it could Let's agree then we've outgrown this box For it's well understood that we can and we should Graduate from this school of hard knocks ttr |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: GUEST,Rufus Date: 05 Jun 06 - 09:33 PM Who??? Grow your own. Roll your own and still your own dew. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: Bobert Date: 05 Jun 06 - 09:07 PM Yo, Rufus... When did you get a pudder??? Sheeeet, boy, yer movin' up in the world, ain't ya, son??? How's the lovely Rether May??? They still havin' that Saturday night chuggun' party behind the Sweat Springs Store up top the mountain... Hey, wait a minute... Wood stoves??? Well, yeah but you was never into growin' yer own food.... Sheeeet fire, boy.... You done fooled me.... Ahhhhhh, hmmmmmmmm??? You is Rufus Timpkins, ain't cha??? (Think you got yerseff mixerated up there, Bobert...) Nevermind... Bobert (prolly not yer couzin...) |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: beardedbruce Date: 05 Jun 06 - 08:54 PM Guest, Rufus, An excellent idea. Of course, the earth could only support about 1/10 the present population- So I presume you won't mind if I decide which 9 out of 10 have to go away? (SARCASM) |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 05 Jun 06 - 07:43 PM We already have too many, we don't need to grow any more fools.. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: GUEST,Rufus Date: 05 Jun 06 - 02:58 PM Horses an buggys. Wood stoves. Grow your own food etc. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: Amos Date: 05 Jun 06 - 01:33 PM Dear GtI: Have you reduced this to practice? Can you,. if so, provide some numbers reflecting energy in (in joules) and hydrogen-based energy produced? I find your remark mostinteresting, because I have often thought the right cavitation frequency of ultrasound should enable a profitable input/output ratio, but have never had time to reduce it to practice. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: GUEST,the inventor Date: 05 Jun 06 - 12:58 PM Acoustic lensing of water fracturing ultra sound will become many factors cheaper than current electrolosis that requires much more electricity than my ultra sound cavitation technique to produce hydrogen for fuel cells. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: Amos Date: 05 Jun 06 - 12:37 PM Back to the topic, the Mudcat Think Tank is a good place to put some of the bright possibilities for a better future down, given that some of the brightest and best-intentioned people in the world visit these pages... just don't ask which ones! :D For example, what are the best avenues to resolve the major crises of planetary life in this century? One such crisis is that homo sapiens gets violent when threatened by lack or loss. But he tends to be less so when engaged in self-determined productive activity which enhances his survival. The critical resources for expanding that ability (and thus reducing violence) are water and energy. Given enough of those two things, almost anything is possible, including terraforming the deserts to render them arable. Of course, the kind of social inventions needed to make technical solutions possible and viable is also an issue -- for example, breaking the lock on alternative enrgy usage imposed by vested interests. OR somehow breaking the "catastrophic greed" syndrome that has ruined the great nations of whales, seals, sea-birds and molluscs which once populated the oceans of the North. The sad history of the Canadian governments protection of seal-slaughtering and rampant overfishing comes to mind. Come one, come all. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: GUEST,Rufus Date: 05 Jun 06 - 12:05 PM What does inbreeding mean? Like fried chiken? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: GUEST Date: 05 Jun 06 - 11:56 AM Inbreeding. No point arguing, Amos. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: Amos Date: 04 Jun 06 - 01:10 PM I think you mean "lose", Rufus. "Loose" means not fully attached or not tightly connected... which may be appropriate... A |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: GUEST,Rufus Date: 04 Jun 06 - 12:14 PM And the South shall rise agin cause we didn't loose. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: GUEST,Frank Date: 04 Jun 06 - 11:23 AM 2 major issues. The iraqi occupation and the stealing of the American vote. Connect the dots. Frank |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: GUEST,Bill Date: 04 Jun 06 - 10:52 AM That which we call a piece of rope by any other name be something other than a piece of rope? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 04 Jun 06 - 07:27 AM And when you don't Amos, rest assured there will be a long queue... :-) You could always tell this guy to get in the Far Queue... |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: Amos Date: 03 Jun 06 - 11:42 PM Mack: "No-one should try to define themselves." Interesting thought. Why not? You are right, I have cast ad hominem slurs on Mister Bush, and I have called him a maroon. You may be too young to recognize the provenance of that phrase from early Warner Brothers cartoons. But I think if you look at the places where I made such remarks they each are in a context which makes it quite clear what prompted the remark. As for "declaring arguments lack merit" unilaterally, I remember doing that once -- perhaps you posted something under another alias that I was disrespectful about? If you want to tell me about, it feel free. I believe I have good reasons for saying what I do and am always glad to expound on them, if you're really interested. My sense is that you're not, though -- probably just pissed off. As regards questioning myself, believe me, I do it often. But thanks for the challenge. I'll chew it over some. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 03 Jun 06 - 09:06 PM "Excuuuuuse me but all I see is some rope. ... Even Einstein questioned himself." Which only proves that you are very courageous and proud in insisting on retaining a very narrow minded view of the world... sigh... |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: freda underhill Date: 03 Jun 06 - 09:01 PM Amos I read & enjoyed that Bush administration thread very much, and am sorry it was brought down by nasties. re the think tank just back from Austria (this is my current mantra!) where recycling is legislated. EVERYONE separates plastics, biodegradables, and other rubbish. It goes into three small bins in the kitchen and three large bins in every street. freda |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: GUEST,Mack Date: 03 Jun 06 - 08:30 PM No Amos. You just declare that their argument lacks merit (by your standards) and there fore does not matter. I don't consider "This man is a fucking MAROOOON!" coherent and articulate. Does it meet your standards for articulate and coherent? No one can or should try to define themselves but I perceive you as riding a high horse and full of phony self serving philosophical bullshit and self righteousness. Does your understanding of "Avatar" make you deserving of such stature? It sort of reminds me of the guy that nailed up a piece of clothes line and declared it art. Of course all of the self declared art lovers had to agree. Excuuuuuse me but all I see is some rope. Even Einstein questioned himself. He said in essence that nuclear fission could not happen but when someone, not even of his caliber, Szilard, explained to him his theory of how fission could occur, He realized he was wrong and wrote a letter to President Roosevelt warning him of the danger of an atomic bomb Now who is smarter than you and have they ever told you that you were wrong? Did you ever choke on anything? Mack |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: Amos Date: 03 Jun 06 - 02:13 PM Mack: You do me great disservice. I have never called anyone stupid for countering any opinion of my with some kind of coherent and articulate argument based on facts or a genuine desire to exchange opinions. I think if you look down the back trail you will find I have gotten into that sort of fire-fight with people who resort to gross mischaracterizations, ad hominem attacks, and poorly done rhetorical devices which don't get said what they may think. Your last comment is really intriguing. I think I know what you mean, but I could be wrong. I think, at one level, that everyone defines themselves -- at least, in the final analysis, I don't see where else the formative definition of who you are could possibly come from. But clarify for me -- where does your self get its definition from? A |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: GUEST Date: 03 Jun 06 - 01:53 PM 'Anybody that points this out is termed rather dull-witted not-quite bright.' In your case it's true. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: GUEST,Mack Date: 03 Jun 06 - 10:04 AM Do those people who are clearly and unequivocally smarter than Amos ever disagree with him? If so they are vituperous and rather dull-witted not-quite bright people. He constantly talks down to anyone that questions his judgment. He this his purpose in life is to judge and criticize but he takes the arrogant position that he is immune to any criticism. Anybody that points this out is termed rather dull-witted not-quite bright. Not smart enough to grasp the fact that Amos knows it all. I am sorry but I do not see the Emperor's new clothes and I am not afraid to say so. By the way I think Bush totally has his head up his ass on what to do about illegal immigrants. Notice the key words "I think". If anybody disagrees they are invited to say so. I won't try to assume Greek God status and call them stupid for doing so. The only people I call stupid are the ones that think they are so smart they can define themselves. M |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: Amos Date: 02 Jun 06 - 11:46 PM There, at least is something that the Prez and Veep are doing right. Karl is obviously sharing part of one of his many moronic identities with the A |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: Don Firth Date: 02 Jun 06 - 09:55 PM Amos is definitely on the upper end of the bell curve. I believe the purpose of the "Popularity of the Bush Administration" thread was to promote an informed electorate. Now, some folks object to that sort of thing ("I wonder why that is," he said, naïvely), but Thomas Jefferson thought it was a good idea. In fact, he said that democracy can't survive without it. Another quote worth considering: "Never in our history has an incumbent administration relied so heavily on the intellectual sluggishness of the electorate." --Bill Maher. He may not have the status of Jefferson, but it's a helluva quote nevertheless. But in the meantime, back to the Mudcat think-tank: I think that people with multiple personalities should share them with people who don't have any. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: GUEST Date: 02 Jun 06 - 06:08 PM "In America, anyone can be President. THAT'S the problem." George Carlin |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: Amos Date: 02 Jun 06 - 06:04 PM Actually, Amos knows a number of people who are clearly and unequivocally smarter than he is. Usually they can be recognized by their contributions to intelligent conversations. They raise dialogue to higher levels of quality, rather than dragging it down into the grungy back alleys of generalized negativity and character assassination. I have allowed myself to do a little character assassination on Bush, but -- hell, it was a victimless crime, as he had so little in the first place. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: Bobert Date: 02 Jun 06 - 05:10 PM Dianavan, Tolls are terribly regressive... Case in point... Laborer who works in the inner city for $10.00 hour makes $80.00 a day gross... Lets say the toll is $2.00 which equals... ...2.8% of the laborer' gross income for the day Lawyer who works in the inner city makes $100.00 and hour for a gross of $800.00... He pays the same $2.00 toll whcih equals... ... 1/4th of 1% (.0025%)... But I like yer other ideas... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: GUEST Date: 02 Jun 06 - 04:51 PM Amos IS smarter than you. That's a given. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: GUEST,Mack Date: 02 Jun 06 - 08:25 AM Anybody that disagrees with Amos is vituperous and rather dull-witted not-quite bright people. Conclusions: A. Amos thinks he is smarter than anybody else. B. He can dish it out but he can't take it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: GUEST,Freddy Date: 02 Jun 06 - 12:25 AM What was the purpose? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: Amos Date: 01 Jun 06 - 11:47 PM Freddy: It was closed at my request because a small number of vituperous and rather dull-witted not-quite bright people kept trying to hijack the thread away from its purpose. I don't recall doing any blowharding in it -- in fact if my name came up at all it was brought up by this small stupid crowd of negative nabobbery who had nothign to offer but hatefulness and stupidity. If you like, we can start another one, though. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: GUEST,Freddy Date: 01 Jun 06 - 11:28 PM Hey. What happened to Amos's Ode to Amos AKA the popularity of the Bush Administration? Did someone tire of his blowhard drumbeat? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: M.Ted Date: 01 Jun 06 - 10:58 PM I think people should be required to reap what they sow. It is supposed to work automatically, but lately a lot of folks have been allowed to slide--you can see the results--so let's make it mandatory! |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: freda underhill Date: 01 Jun 06 - 10:47 AM Promote extensive music sharing programs between children of different races, different nationalities, different religions. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: dianavan Date: 01 Jun 06 - 12:34 AM Think tank? I think all water should be metered, including car washes. I think anyone wishing to set up alternate energy should be able to sell it to the grid. I think nuclear anything should be banned until we find a way to deal with the waste. I think all garbage should be recycled, re-used or reduced and that all cities should have a program to encourage it. I think all cars entering a metropolitan area should have to pay a toll each and every time. I think politicians should stop lying. I also think that if a president declares war, his children should have to serve in the military. I think off-shore tax shelters should be against the law. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 31 May 06 - 07:17 PM One of the basic hassles with the US political system is the fixed terms - parties have planned things terms in advance - whereas when the elections can be called at any time, it's a lot harder to wind up people on just a few weeks notice on fake problems. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 31 May 06 - 07:14 PM "Halliburton for example is based in Bermuda and some other obscure Pacific Island so they are not subject to US taxation" Tax any import by them - if a 'foreign company'... :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: Bobert Date: 31 May 06 - 02:25 PM Yeah, BB, I am a believer in federal term limits... This way folks give you their best and they ain't all concerned about gettin' re-elected... 6 years for president 8 years for Senators 6 years fir representative On the local side, leave it up to them... Some places find it hard to get folks who even want to be on their town councils... |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: beardedbruce Date: 31 May 06 - 01:13 PM Money earned here should be taxed here- if earned elsewhere, taxed by that place. But easier said than implimented... |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: Donuel Date: 31 May 06 - 01:11 PM Good tax ideas Amos but what would we do about taxing multinational corporations. The Corporate Headquarters of Halliburton for example is based in Bermuda and some other obscure Pacific Island so they are not subject to US taxation. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: Amos Date: 31 May 06 - 10:50 AM 1. Establish a legalrequirement that bills should only include material relevant to their primary intent and the subjects related to it directly -- no hidden off-topic Bill creep allowed. 2. Throw out the entire tax code. Replace same with a national flat tax no greater than 12%, but with no exemptions, neither for church or foundation or school or farm. Define the distribution of that 12% to town, county, state and federal recipients and make it a Constituional right to pay no more than that total per year. This would so simplify the tax code that hundreds of thousands of qualified IRS employees would suddenly be superfluous. The IRS should place them at the disposal of the Government Accoutability Office, with the duty of analyzing cost-benefit and e3fficiency of government expenditures and eliminating waste and corruption in government finances. That would give gainful employment to half of 'em. The rest can be put to analyzing the economic fall-out from different policies over history -- for example, the costs of war, the costs of consitutional erosion, and other salient policies offered by the overheated loins of swell-headed politicians. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: beardedbruce Date: 31 May 06 - 08:14 AM Bobert, 1-4. - throw in term limits and I'll go for them all. As for DU, Donuel brought it up, not me. "Things like what to do with expensive storage of deadly nuclear waste?: Call it "Depleted", put it in bullets and bombs and use it to blow up Islamic countries." "Things like what to do with expensive storage of deadly nuclear waste?" GOOD topic for a thinktank "Call it "Depleted", put it in bullets and bombs and use it to blow up Islamic countries" Outright lies, obviously meant for political effect. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: Bobert Date: 31 May 06 - 08:13 AM A good whack never hurt anyone, fooles-t... |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 31 May 06 - 08:06 AM Bobert, sit down me lad, you're starting to make sense... Have you been whacking the weeds again? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The mudcat think tank From: Bobert Date: 31 May 06 - 07:58 AM Okay, I'll throw a few into the mix that I have brought up before: 1. Rebuild the residential areas of New Orleans on large barge/blocks that are so well disguised that you really don't think yer looking at a barge until the storm come and then the entire block floats... 2. Private/public parnerships between prisions and industries where inmates work fir specific companies witha portion of their income, when relevant, going toward restitution to the victims of families of vistims of the crimes they committed... When the inmate has done his time he or she moves right into the same position with the same company in the outside world. 3. Public financing of all political campaigns from dog cvatcher to president and every position in between... This is the only way to restore democracy... 4. A Department of Peace is long overdue... Yeah those touch on a few that I have bvurnt up some gray matter over... Now, as fir depleted uranium... The facts about the effects are being withheld... There was doctor at a VA hospital who was zeroing in on the physical effects of vets who had traces of DU in their bodies... When he brought it to the attention of the higher ups he was dismissed... So, yeah, given the company line, DU isn't a threat... But, like many other comapny lines we've heard over the last few years is just that: a company "line"... There is a thread I started a couple years agop on this so there's no use thrying to highjack Donuel'as perfectly good thread over an issue that has been hashed out in the past... Bobert |
