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Review: Floyd Tillman

Beer 29 May 06 - 10:51 PM
Azizi 30 May 06 - 09:13 PM
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Subject: Review: Floyd Tillman
From: Beer
Date: 29 May 06 - 10:51 PM

Did you know that he was considered to have recorded the first cheating song! The song title is " Slippin Around". He had a way of playing that made him quite unique. I can't figure out this blue clicky, but if you do a quick search on google you will find a site that shows a short video of him.
Beer.


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Subject: RE: Review: Floyd Tillman
From: Azizi
Date: 30 May 06 - 09:13 PM

I never heard of Floyd Tillman, and so went googling.

Sorry, I can't do blue clickies either, or at least my blue clickies appear reddish brown on my computer-why I don't know. And I didn't find the video you mentioned.

But I did find this quote which I think worth linking to-whatever the color the link turns out:

Floyd Tillman

"You don't know (when it's time to write a song). You just feel the song. It comes through you. The good songs do 'cause you can write a commercial song where you have to squeeze it out, but the idea songs just happen. They're just...you're riding along sometime and you get something in your mind, and you write it down and that's an idea.

Sometimes you get an idea from what somebody said...But you don't write it unless you feel like it...They're personal (songs), but they weren't written during the time they were personal. In other words when you have these problems you don't...the last thing you think of is writing a song about a problem. But later on you laugh at it, and then you write a song about it."
-Floyd Tillman, Country Music Hall of Fame inductee, 1984

http://www.nashvillesongwritersfoundation.com/fame/tillman.html


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Subject: RE: Review: Floyd Tillman
From: GUEST
Date: 31 May 06 - 08:45 PM

Slippin' Around
Jimmy Wakely & Margaret Whiting
-Words and Music by Floyd Tillman

-Source: "Jimmy Wakely Vintage Collections" - Capitol 7243-8-36591-2-8
-Notes: Recorded July 20, 1949

Seems we always have to slip around
To be together, Dear
Slipping around
Afraid we might be found

I know I can't forget you
And I've gotta have you near
But we just have to
Slip around and live in constant fear

Oh, you're tied up with someone else
And I am all tied up, too
I know I've made mistakes, Dear
But I'm so in love with you

I hope some day I'll find a way
To bring you back to me
And I won't have to slip around
To have your company

Oh, you're tied up with someone else
And I'm all tied up, too
I know I've made mistakes, Dear
But I'm so in love with you

I hope some day I'll find a way
To bring you back to me
And I won't have to slip around
And I won't have to slip around
To have your company


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Subject: RE: Review: Floyd Tillman
From: Beer
Date: 31 May 06 - 09:42 PM

Azizi.
Here is the link for the video, but you may have to play with it to open it. This guy was truly amazing.
Beer
http://country0.site27.bokhosting.com/site/multimedia-video.aspx?cid=313


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Subject: RE: Review: Floyd Tillman
From: Peace
Date: 31 May 06 - 09:46 PM

Link here.


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Subject: RE: Review: Floyd Tillman
From: Azizi
Date: 31 May 06 - 10:12 PM

Thanks, Beer & Peace for posting that link.

I appreciate that introduction to Country music, a genre of music that I don't know beans about. I'm not even sure if Country music and Country & Western music are the same thing.

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Subject: RE: Review: Floyd Tillman
From: Beer
Date: 31 May 06 - 10:13 PM

Thanks Peace.
Hope all is well. Not bad here.
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Subject: RE: Review: Floyd Tillman
From: Beer
Date: 31 May 06 - 10:20 PM

I'll be damn if I ever could figure out the difference. Another great song of Floyd's was " This Cold War With You". A lot of songs are written on a personal note. If this was the case with Floyd , then he was having a rough time. Depending of course on which end of the stick your on. Then maybe he was just writing about a story he heard or a friend having a bad time. As you had referred to in your post Azizi.


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Subject: RE: Review: Floyd Tillman
From: Azizi
Date: 31 May 06 - 10:27 PM

Well, I googled "country & western" and landed first at a wikipedia site. Here's what who ever wrote that article has to say:

"In popular music, country music, also called country and western music or country-western, is an amalgam of popular musical forms developed in the Southern United States, with roots in traditional folk music, Celtic music, blues, gospel music, and old-time music that began to develop rapidly [1] in the 1920s. The term country music began to be widely applied to the music in the 1940s and was fully embraced in the 1970s while country and western declined in use [1].

However, country music is actually a catch-all category that embraces several different genres of music: Nashville sound (the pop-like music very popular in the 1960s); bluegrass, a fast mandolin, banjo and fiddle-based music popularized by Bill Monroe and by Flatt and Scruggs; Western, which encompasses traditional Western ballads and Hollywood cowboy music; Western swing, a sophisticated dance music popularized by Bob Wills; the Bakersfield sound (popularized by Buck Owens and Merle Haggard); outlaw country; Cajun; zydeco; gospel; oldtime (generally pre-1930 folk music); honky tonk; Appalachian; rockabilly; neotraditional country and jug band.

Each style is unique in its execution, its use of rhythms, and its chord structures, though many songs have been adapted to the different country styles..."

-snip-

Click http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_music for the complete article.


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Subject: RE: Review: Floyd Tillman
From: Peace
Date: 31 May 06 - 11:05 PM

This Cold War With You: Floyd Tillman [1949]

Only a country song could use the Cold War as a metaphor for a romantic standoff and get away with it. Floyd Tillman's tired, lonely, heart-pained delivery of such lines as "the sun goes down and leaves me sad and blue, the iron curtain falls on this cold war with you" make the tune work not only as a great Cold War song, but as a great song period.

Floyd Tillman, nicknamed the 'the Original Outlaw' by Willie Nelson, was born in Ryan, Oklahoma in 1914, the son of a sharecropper. Tillman was raised in the cotton mill town of Post, Texas where he learned to play mandolin. Later Tillman learned how to play resonator guitar. Tillman played lead electric guitar in Adolph Hofner's western swing band in San Antonio where he immersed himself in a variety of different kinds of music.

Tillman's eclectic musical skills led him to jobs with Houston pop bandleader Mack Clark and various western swing groups. In 1939 Tillman recorded vocals with Leon 'Pappy' Selph's Blue Ridge Playboys and the same year Decca signed him as a solo artist. Tillman's first songwriting hit was It Makes No Difference Now recorded by Cliff Bruner in 1938 and Bing Crosby in 1940. During World War II Tillman served as a radio operator near Houston and he continued to be able to record. After the war Tillman scored another songwriting success with I Love You So Much It Hurts which was eventually recorded by Vic Damone, Red Foley and Andy Williams.

In 1949 Tillman wrote one of country's most famous 'cheating' songs, Slippin' Around that was a duet hit for Jimmy Wakely and Margaret Whiting. At the height of his career Tillman decided to recede from the spotlight, though he did record one last album, 'The Influence', shortly before his death in 2003. In 1984 Tillman was inducted into the Country Music Hall of Fame.


LYRICS/TRANSCRIPTION:
This Cold War With You: Floyd Tillman [1949]

The sun goes down and leaves me sad and blue
The iron curtain falls on this cold war with you
Though you won't speak and I won't speak that's true
Two stubborn people with a cold war to go through

Oh why, oh, why should love ever come
To couples, like you and me
Whose cold, cold wars are never done
And whose hearts just can't be free
Oh let's do right or let's just say we're through
I just can't stand another cold, cold war with you

Oh why, oh, why should love ever come
To couples, like you and me
Whose cold, cold wars are never done
And whose hearts just can't be free
Now let's do right, or let's just say we're through
I just can't stand another cold, cold war with you



Floyd Tillman [1949]
This Cold War With You
(Tillman)
Columbia 20 615-4


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Subject: RE: Review: Floyd Tillman
From: Peace
Date: 01 Jun 06 - 12:02 AM

Hey, Ad, I trust everything is well with you and that the festival is a great success. Sorry it wasn't possible to get there. Maybe next year, God willin' and the creeks don't rise.


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Subject: RE: Review: Floyd Tillman
From: Beer
Date: 01 Jun 06 - 05:42 PM

Thanks Bruce. All is ready to roll. I'm already looking in booking for next year. Never to early when it comes to musicians. Will be in touch again I'm sure.
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Subject: RE: Review: Floyd Tillman
From: Kenneth Ingham
Date: 02 Jun 06 - 02:38 PM

Dark side Of The Moon was their best album, but I don't mind Ummagumma.


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Subject: RE: Review: Floyd Tillman
From: Beer
Date: 20 Apr 11 - 07:41 PM

Here is an interview that Jerry Jeff Walker does with Floyd.
http://youtu.be/4nMnZKo01Wo

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