BS: I Met a Real Peace Hero....

Subject: BS: I Met a Real Peace Hero....
From: Bobert
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 09:40 PM

No, actually I met quite a few real peace heros, Dr. Benjamin Spock, Abbie Hoffman, Pete Seegar to name just some of the better known peace heros... But in reality I've met hundreds and hundreds of folks who I consider peace heros...

(BTW, my late father-in-law, Thomas G. Nanney, was a highly decorated WW II vet and one of only 2 survivors of his entire company which fought in the South Pacific... If he were still alive I can honestly say that he would be another peace hero and he would be very much against the Iraq War... Having known him on a very deep level, I know this in my heart...)

So who are the "peace heros" that you folks have met or known???

Peace

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: I Met a Real Peace Hero....
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 09:52 PM

Buffy Sainte-Marie. I met her a few times, and she is definitely a peace hero.

My father, who was in WWII, was very much opposed to the idea of fighting any further wars since, so I guess he would qualify too.

Subject: RE: BS: I Met a Real Peace Hero....
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 10:38 PM

I have never met a true combat veteran who was gung-ho for war. Not one. Those who have been there know. The REMFs, on the other hand....

Subject: RE: BS: I Met a Real Peace Hero....
From: number 6
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 10:42 PM

My father ... as mentioned in the war hero thread.

My mother who convinced my father who was a career officer in the Canadian military to resign. She was a true humanitarian.

Jane Jacobs.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: I Met a Real Peace Hero....
From: Bobert
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 11:31 PM

Amd bless her heart, sIx...

Subject: RE: BS: I Met a Real Peace Hero....
From: Cats
Date: 11 Jun 06 - 10:10 AM

My father was a Conscientious Objector in WW2 and my grandfather in WW1. Grandfather was sent to prison and when he came out joined the Society of Friends [Quaker] Ambulance Service who carried the injured from the battlefield. Now they are both heroes to me. I also met hundreds of women and men who I consider Peace Heroes, from the times at Greenham Common.

Subject: RE: BS: I Met a Real Peace Hero....
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Jun 06 - 12:26 PM

I met a piece of a hero once...

Subject: RE: BS: I Met a Real Peace Hero....
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 11 Jun 06 - 05:33 PM

I admire these who stand up for what they believe in. I admire those who have seen conflict and search for justice and equality through peaceful means. That is a hero.

When you compare the other thread here with a similar title, it's stomach turning to read people say how honoured they were to have met government killing machines,'Hail fellow well met".
Says more about them than they realise. More a sad case of hero-worship.

Subject: RE: BS: I Met a Real Peace Hero....
From: Peace
Date: 11 Jun 06 - 05:49 PM

I dislike the word 'hero'. Most 'heroism' is dictated by circumstance and response. To me, someone who does his/her best in the face of life's difficulties already qualifies: single parents, people with health issues who simply continue despite the odds--folks like that. Heroism isn't momentarily 'putting it on the line'. Heroism is putting it on the line for ever. And most people who do that never receive recognition for it.

Subject: RE: BS: I Met a Real Peace Hero....
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 11 Jun 06 - 05:55 PM

As always Peace your words speak the truth. Well said.
By the way hope all's well with you.

Subject: RE: BS: I Met a Real Peace Hero....
From: Peace
Date: 11 Jun 06 - 05:59 PM

And you, Divis.

Subject: RE: BS: I Met a Real Peace Hero....
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 11 Jun 06 - 06:16 PM

I work with them every day (none of us are REMF's) Been there bought the T shirt collected scars and postcards.....

Subject: RE: BS: I Met a Real Peace Hero....
From: Scoville
Date: 12 Jun 06 - 09:16 AM

I don't know that I'd call him a hero yet but my brother--a dyed-n-the-wool pacifist and humanitarian--is currently getting a PhD in conflict archaeology, only he plans to use it to study the effects of war on civilian populations.

Subject: RE: BS: I Met a Real Peace Hero....
From: Peace
Date: 12 Jun 06 - 10:22 AM

Perhaps then we will see that war is not good for people.

Subject: RE: BS: I Met a Real Peace Hero....
From: SunnySister
Date: 12 Jun 06 - 10:42 AM

My friend singer-songwriter extraordinaire Darryl Purpose and his friend, Kevin Deame are peace heroes to me.

They left on April 23, 2006 from Santa Monica, California to cycle across the United States to commemorate the 20th anniversary of the Great Peace March for Global Nuclear Disarmament - which was an eight and a half month peace walk from Los Angeles to Washington, D.C. back in 1986.

Darryl is one of the best singer-songerwriter's I've come across and a man committed to peace and to the environment. It's an honor to call him my friend.

Here's the road blog of their on-going journey, if interested:

http://www.darrylpurpose.com/bike_tour/bike_tour.html

Subject: RE: BS: I Met a Real Peace Hero....
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Jun 06 - 09:41 PM

It's interseting that I was in North Carolina last night and clicking thru the channels on the TV to see if I could find anything worth watching and there was Howaer Zinn talkin' on some channell.. Bothe the P-Vine and I watched, almost spellbound, for about 30 more imnutesd before the show ended...

Yeah, Howard Zinn amy be the the biggest of the big when it come to peace heros...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: I Met a Real Peace Hero....
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 04:53 AM

Cats your relations were true heroes, you are lucky to have such brave relatives.

Subject: RE: BS: I Met a Real Peace Hero....
From: Cats at Work
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 06:14 AM

Thanks. Yes, I'm seriously proud of them. It took a lot to stand up then and be counted. I'm also very, very, very proud of my grandmother who was a suffragette and was sent to Holloway Prison in London and force fed for her part in blowing up the railway lines at Oxted station. Perhaps that's where I get it from?

Subject: RE: BS: I Met a Real Peace Hero....
From: Janice in NJ
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 08:14 PM

Back when I worked in the civil rights movement I met too many heroes to name all. But there are two in particular that I would really like to mention. They aren't well known, but each played an important part and each took great personal risks. The two are Diane Nash Bevel and Jim Peck. Both were the victims of police brutality and mob violence. Jim, for example, was savagely beaten and left for dead during the Freedom Rides. Diane was spit upon, punched, kicked, burned with lighted cigarettes, and then dragged away in handcuffs during the lunch counter sit-ins. But neither backed down in face of such assaults, nor did either respond with violence.

Subject: RE: BS: I Met a Real Peace Hero....
From: frogprince
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 08:55 PM

Not strictly about pacificism, and not necessarily great song writing art, but something I wrote for an occasion a few years ago.
      
      For the Unnoticed Heroes

When I was young, so were my heroes;
Now those who are left have grown old;
I hope that the young will find heroes,
To teach them that they can be bold.

One hero may take up a rifle, to fight for the truth and stand bold;
Another may grow old in prison,
Because of some truth he has told.

A hero may die to save others; there's no greater gift one can give;
But sometimes it takes a true hero
To shoulder life's burdens and live.

Some heroes bring something of heaven,
to places touched too much by hell;
Some of them spend all their days caring,
For those who will never get well.

A hero may be any person whose honor you know you can trust;
A hero may be a brave lady   who chooses her seat on the bus.

A hero may be tall and handsome, well-favored and visibly strong;
But my hat is off to the hero, who changes our hearts with a song.

A hero makes up no excuses; a hero asks no guarantees;
Some heroes create timeless beauty,
With paint brushes gripped in their teeth.

When I was young, so were my heroes;
Now those who are left have grown old;
But this world still holds countless heroes.
Each one is more precious than gold.


                                Melody:Traditional, "Rosen the Bow".                                Lyric,   Dean Elkins,2002