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Origins:I'm Henery the Eighth I Am / Henry the 8th

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ANNE BOLEYN
GOODBYE
HEAVEN WILL PROTECT an HONEST GIRL
I'M HENERY THE EIGHTH, I AM
I'VE GOT RINGS ON MY FINGERS
SISTER SUSIE'S SEWING SHIRTS FOR SOLDIERS
SWIMSAM
WHEN FATHER PAPERED THE PARLOUR


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GUEST,cmcw 20 Jun 06 - 07:26 PM
Liz the Squeak 20 Jun 06 - 07:28 PM
Ron Davies 20 Jun 06 - 07:50 PM
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Folkiedave 21 Jun 06 - 02:28 AM
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Liz the Squeak 21 Jun 06 - 04:09 AM
GUEST 21 Jun 06 - 05:27 AM
Ron Davies 21 Jun 06 - 10:02 PM
Jim Dixon 13 Jul 06 - 07:37 AM
GUEST,Ruston Hornsby 13 Jul 06 - 09:56 AM
GUEST,Pelrad 13 Jul 06 - 02:15 PM
Mick Pearce (MCP) 13 Jul 06 - 03:52 PM
Jim Dixon 29 Jan 11 - 07:42 PM
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Subject: verses for Henery the eighth
From: GUEST,cmcw
Date: 20 Jun 06 - 07:26 PM

Can anyone tell me if there are verses for the Herman' s Hermits song, Henery the eighth? Failing that, can anyone tell me definitively that there are NOT verses?

Thanks.


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Subject: RE: verses for Henery the eighth
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 20 Jun 06 - 07:28 PM

Considerably older than Herman's Hermits....

Henery the Eighth I am.
LTS

Lyrics from the link cited above are more-or-less the same as what's in the Digital Tradition.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: verses for Henery the eighth
From: Ron Davies
Date: 20 Jun 06 - 07:50 PM

Thanks Liz--those are great verses (even if the song is already in DT)--and a lot of other great music hall songs. Can you tell us the significance of Charley Peace?


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Subject: RE: verses for Henery the eighth
From: GUEST,cmcw
Date: 20 Jun 06 - 07:51 PM

brilliant, Liz. I'm gonna win the bet!


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Subject: RE: verses for Henery the eighth
From: Folkiedave
Date: 21 Jun 06 - 02:28 AM

Charly Peace was a murderer/burglar fronm Sheffield.

His story is here:


http://www.met.police.uk/history/history_cases/charlie_peace.htm


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Subject: RE: verses for Henery the eighth
From: Paul Burke
Date: 21 Jun 06 - 04:04 AM

If you run across him, get Gordon Geekie of Manchester to sing his "chanson" version, which (pardon my bad French) runs something like:

Henri huit, c'est moi, c'est moi,
Henri huit, c'est moi, c'est moi,
Je m'ai mariee a ma voisine,
Elle a mariee sept fois deja,
Et tous s'appellent des "Henris",
Elle ne voudrait ni un "Ouilly" ni un "Sam".
Je suis le huitieme des "Henris",
Henri huit, c'est moi!

With a ridiculous French vibrato and gurgle, and a Brel style piano to go with it.


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Subject: RE: verses for Henery the eighth
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 21 Jun 06 - 04:09 AM

Do'you know... it didn't even occur to me to check the DT... D'oh!!!

I just went for Harry Champion, the singer, because I remembered it was one of his pieces!

Ah well.. if the winnings include chocolate, I'll take my share in weekly installments!

LTS


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Subject: RE: verses for Henery the eighth
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Jun 06 - 05:27 AM

Harry Champion is recorded on "Cockney Bill" singing the last verse as

The undertaker called and to the missus I heard him say:
“ ’Ave you any business, ma'am? We’re very slack today.
I packed up number seven for you for the Pearly Gates.
For half a crown, I'll put a gown on 'Enery the Eighth.”
Oh, when he measured me with 'alf a yard of string,
I dropped upon me marrowbones and sang Gawd Save the King.

G


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Subject: RE: verses for Henery the eighth
From: Ron Davies
Date: 21 Jun 06 - 10:02 PM

Thanks, FolkieDave, for that information on Charlie Peace. What a character--and a musician (of sorts) to boot!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: I'm Henery the Eighth I Am (Murray,Weston
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 13 Jul 06 - 07:37 AM

Here's a link to the song in the DT: I'M HENERY THE EIGHTH, I AM

There's a playable mp3 file of Harry Champion singing I'M HENERY THE EIGHTH in a 1911 recording at The Internet Archive.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: I'm Henery the Eighth I Am (Murray,Weston
From: GUEST,Ruston Hornsby
Date: 13 Jul 06 - 09:56 AM

Actually have my great grandmother's copy of the Harry Champion 78rpm recoding of it at home somewhere - one of the old thick and heavy 78's. I'll dig it out and give it a play sometime (we still have her wind-up record player) - it'll be interesting to see if it's the same as the internet archive recording.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: I'm Henery the Eighth I Am (Murray,Weston
From: GUEST,Pelrad
Date: 13 Jul 06 - 02:15 PM

I always thought the word in that last verse was "metabones," like metatarsals. ??

David Jones recorded this on his cassette "Songs of Exquisite Taste," but I'm not sure where anyone could find it these days. I believe he only released it on cassette.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: I'm Henery the Eighth I Am (Murray,Weston
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 13 Jul 06 - 03:52 PM

Pelrad - marrowbones is fine, meaning down on your knees. There's a C19th North Eastern song called Success Unto The Coal Trade which includes the line: "Down on your marrowbones and pray, Success unto the coal trade".

According to my slang dictionary marrowbones for knees is jocular standard English and my OED says that usage has been OK since 1532!

Mick


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Subject: Lyr Add: I'M HENERY THE EIGHTH I AM (Murray,Weston
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 29 Jan 11 - 07:42 PM

You can hear this recording at YouTube or at the Internet Archive. I have listened, compared it to the version in the DT, and boldfaced the differences:


I'M HENERY THE EIGHTH I AM
Written by Fred Murray & Robert P Weston, 1910.
As recorded by Harry Champion, 1911

1. You don't know who you're looking at. Now just you look at me!
I'm a bit of a nob, I am, belong to royalty.
I'll tell you how it got about: I married Widow Burch.
I was King of England when we trotted out of church.
Outside the people started shouting, "Hip, hooray!"
Said I, "Go down upon your knees. It's Coronation Day!"

CHORUS: I'm Henery the Eighth, I am!
Henery the Eighth, I am, I am!
I got married to the widow next door.
She's been married seven times before.
Every one was a Henery.
She wouldn't have a Willie* or a Sam.
I'm her eighth old man named Henery.
Henery the Eighth I am.

2. I left the Duke of Cumberland, a pub up in the town.
Soon with one or two monarchs I was holding up me Crown.
Seated on the bucket what the carmen call their own,
Surrounded by me subjects, I was sitting on the throne.
Out came the potman. He said, "Now get off to bed."
Said I, "Now say another word, and off'll go your head!"

3. The undertaker called and to the wife I heard him say:
"Have you got any orders, mum? We're very slack today.
I packed up number seven for you, for the Golden Gates.
Let's have a pound upon accounts of Henery the Eighth.
Oh, when he measured me with half a yard of string,
I dropped upon me marrowbones and sang "God Save the King."

* On some repetitions of the chorus, substitute "William."


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: I'm Henery the Eighth I Am (Murray/Weston
From: GUEST,SteveG
Date: 30 Jan 11 - 12:39 PM

Original sheet music in a charity shop on the High St in Barnett, 50p.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: I'm Henery the Eighth I Am (Murray/Weston
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 25 Feb 11 - 03:33 PM

I found an image of the sheet music here. (Note there is a "Go to next page" link at the bottom of that page.) It shows that the lyrics in the DT are accurate, except that the DT is missing verse 4, the "undertaker" verse. The wording of that verse in the sheet music is somewhat different from what Harry Champion sang, so I repeat it here with the differences boldfaced:


4. The undertaker called and to the wife I heard him say:
"Have you got any orders, mum? We're rather slack today.
I packed up all your other seven for the Golden Gates.
Let's have a pound upon account for Henery the Eighth."
But when he measured me with half a yard of string,
I dropped upon my marrowbones and sang "God Save the King!"


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: I'm Henery the Eighth I Am (Murray/Weston
From: Dead Horse
Date: 25 Feb 11 - 05:40 PM

I always think of Joe Brown when I think of this tune. :-)


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