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Folkies supporting IRA

Alison M 26 Aug 06 - 05:16 PM
GUEST,Alison 26 Aug 06 - 05:09 PM
GUEST 26 Aug 06 - 01:57 PM
dan darragh 26 Aug 06 - 01:51 PM
Den 22 Aug 06 - 11:29 PM
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Paul from Hull 21 Aug 06 - 04:49 PM
Leadfingers 21 Aug 06 - 04:45 PM
Paul from Hull 21 Aug 06 - 03:24 PM
Dave the Gnome 21 Aug 06 - 01:55 PM
Paul from Hull 21 Aug 06 - 01:04 PM
Keith A of Hertford 21 Aug 06 - 08:07 AM
GUEST,Alison 21 Aug 06 - 06:51 AM
dan darragh 20 Aug 06 - 09:44 PM
GUEST,Alison 20 Aug 06 - 03:58 PM
Big Al Whittle 20 Aug 06 - 02:08 PM
dan darragh 20 Aug 06 - 12:54 PM
GUEST,Alison 20 Aug 06 - 07:51 AM
robomatic 19 Aug 06 - 03:34 PM
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Big Al Whittle 19 Aug 06 - 02:19 PM
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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Alison M
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 05:16 PM

Rhe Website FAIR http://www.victims.org.uk/guestbook.html


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST,Alison
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 05:09 PM

Guest, The Website FAIR is a cover Website for Loyalists.


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 01:57 PM

Who's FAIR ?


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: dan darragh
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 01:51 PM

KEEP FAIR OFF THIS SITE THEY ARE SHIT STIRRING SCUM


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Den
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 11:29 PM

Good God, I've been away for a while, in Ireland incidently and returning to the site I find this excuse for a thread. Mindblaster you apparently are in a quandry, how do you stand and shit straight(apologies to others for language). Go educate yourself. If it weren't for Irish and Scottish songs I'm sure your repertoire would be limited.

So you take personal offense with Irish rebel songs...tough that's part of the history of our country. You have a choice when you hear them, let your legs do the thinking.

And Leadfingers said, "Before the IRA Hi Jacked the Civil Rights movement and re vitalised The Troubles in 1969,"

I'd like to ask Leadfingers to explain the IRA's role in 1969 in relation to the "troubles" and while your at it maybe you could explain to everyone the British Army 1st Parashoot Regiment's effect on the civil rights movement (in particular), and the British Government's influence on what became known as the troubles after January 30th 1972 (in relation to the IRA) and what really started the troubles as we knew them.

I haven't had a chance to go right through this thread. I skimmed it really and I see that it seems to have opened the doors to new posters. Hopefully they can join in discussion without all the caps, having reviewed what they have written before they post. I welcome new posters with opposing views to those that I and others hold and I sincerely hope we can debate this and other issues with respect in future.


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 08:12 PM

Third prize a sensible reply from that anti Irish guy on this site from England.


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 21 Aug 06 - 04:49 PM

I THINK that means you win a prize, doesnt it? *G*

Sadly, its a week in a caravan with Ian Paisley...

Hmmm.....I'm hoping there isnt a 2nd Prize, for posting 301...that might mean 2 weeks in a caravan with Paisley...


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Leadfingers
Date: 21 Aug 06 - 04:45 PM

3oo ??


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 21 Aug 06 - 03:24 PM

*G*


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Aug 06 - 01:55 PM

I don't think it is really still here, Paul. It is a figleaf of your imagination.

Not wanting to do multiple posts but waiting for 3C...

:D (tG)


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 21 Aug 06 - 01:04 PM

I see this is STILL dragging on, despite me being away for a couple of weeks


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 21 Aug 06 - 08:07 AM

Please stop treating this site as an annexe to another one.
At least start your own little thread.


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST,Alison
Date: 21 Aug 06 - 06:51 AM

Dan Darragh, Thanks for your reply on here, but I hope you know that the people from FAIR are reading our posts on here even if they have not left any comments on here either. The FAIR people sometimes do to come here and leave a unfriendly message, but they won't be challenged by anyone, which means they don't reply to anyone that replies to their messages. I did feel at one time I would have liked to put your Website link on here for people to come and visit to you, but I would of asked first. I was a bit concerned that Loyalists or FAIR people would write hate messages on your Website, which I did not want to encourage as you do have a very nice Website and guestbook for people to visit. Kind Regards.


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: dan darragh
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 09:44 PM

THANKS ALISON THAT IS ALL WE DO IS ANSWER QUESTIONS ON A FAIR AN TRUTHFUL MANNER,WE DO NOT HIDE WHO OR WHAT WE ARE AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE UP FRONT FOR IF THE PEOPLE DONT LIKE US THEN ITS THERE PROBLEM.AS FOR THE GROUP CALLED F.A.I.R. WE OUT SMARTED THEM EVERYTIME ON THERE WEB SITE AND NOW SOMETIMES THEY WRITE IN USING OR NAME TO MAKE PEOPLE TURN AGAINST US BUT IT WILL NOT WORK,WE ARE THE OPPRESSED PEOPLE NOT THE OPPRESSORS,TIOCFAIDH AR LA............FEEL FREE TO CHECK OUT OUR WEBSITE www.dandarraghrfb.net.tf


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST,Alison
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 03:58 PM

The Dan Darraghs are defending themselves on the Website FAIR, but their name is being used by the people behind FAIR to say things that are untrue about them. The Dan Darraghs are republicans, but they are not anti protestant like the Website FAIR that claims them to be. From my experience of asking questions to the Dan Darraghs about Irish issues is that the Dan Darraghs are respectful people, who does not abuse the public for asking simple questions whatever the side of the fence the public comes from or what country they come from either. They do listen and answer your questions without any hostility towards anyone. The Website FAIR should stop using Dan's name on their Website FAIR and leave them alone.


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 02:08 PM

Ever get the feeling this is getting too crazy?


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: dan darragh
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 12:54 PM

A CHAIRDE,AT PRESANT ON THE FAIR WEB SITE THEY ARE USING MY NAME AND TAN KILLERS TO GET AT EACH OTHER SO IF YOUR HERE TAN KILLER ITS NOT THE REAL ME WRITING THE HALF THEM POSTS.WATCH OUT FOR COLIN HERE AS HE IS ONE OF FAIRS PEOPLE AND IS A DANGEROUS PERSON,ALSO GAVE ALISON AND MICK AND A FEW OTHERS A HARD TIME ON FAIRS WEB SITE SOFUCK HIM,IN CHICAGO FOR THE HUNGER STRIKE COMMEMERATIONS,TIOCFAIDH AR LA,GO RAIBH MILE MO AGAT


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST,Alison
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 07:51 AM

To the person that calls himself "Dave the gnome", Well said. I don't know why people like Guest seems always horrible to Divis when Divis is not hostile towards anyone? Yes, Divis supports the PIRA and republicans, but he is a reasonable person to talk with. Guest is not even a member, but he accusing Divis of writing all the posts himself. He just comes on here and tells us all to shut up and get lost. This is free speech on here so if Guest does not like what is reading on here then why don't he take himself off to another thread to more of his liking and leave us alone.


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Subject: Lyr Add: HOUSE OF ORANGE (Stan Rogers)
From: robomatic
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 03:34 PM

I know I've posted this before, but it's been a long time and this thread is perfect for it, even could lift it above the line:]

[Stan introduced this song on stage, "I don't care what your politics are; when our children are dying in the streets, it's time to put away the guns." He said he'd never write a political song, but he did and we thank him for it. It is fitting that it be the last on the album as it was the last one he wrote.]

THE HOUSE OF ORANGE
(Stan Rogers)
As recorded by Stan Rogers on "From Fresh Water" (1984)

I took back my hand and I showed him the door.
No dollar of mine would I part with this day
For fueling the engine of a bloody cruel war
In my forefathers' home far away,
Who fled the first Famine wearing all that they owned,
Were called 'Navigators', all ragged and torn,
And built the Grand Trunk here, and found a new home
Wherever their children were born.

Their sons have no politics. None can recall
Allegiance from long generations before.
O'this or O'that name just can't matter at all
Or be cause enough for to war;
And meanwhile my babies are safe in their home,
Unlike their pale cousins who cower and cry
While kneecappers nail their poor Dads to the floor
And teach them to hate and to die.

It's those cruel beggars who spurn the fair coin.
The peace for their kids they could take at their will.
Since the day old King Billy prevailed at the Boyne,
They've bombed and they've maimed and they've killed.
Now they cry out for money and wail at the door
But Home Rule or Republic, 'tis all of it shame;
And a curse for us here who want nothing of war.
We're kindred in nothing but name.

All rights and all wrongs have long since blown away,
For causes are ashes where children lie slain.
Yet the damned U.D.L. and the cruel I.R.A.
Will tomorrow go murdering again.
But no penny of mine will I add to the fray.
"Remember the Boyne!" they will cry out in vain,
For I've given my heart to the place I was born
And forgiven the whole House of Orange,
King Billy and the whole House of Orange.


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 03:10 PM

It is still an awful lot more than I know about you, dear Guest. If you cannot see that is it really worth continuing this conversation. Join the 'cat. PM me your real name and address. Let me know who your wife and family are and what you like to do in your spare time. Then I may trust you as much as Divis. In other words, put up or shut up.

Cheers

DtG


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 02:19 PM

well obviously we all could be different people from who we say we are

theres an outside chance that dave isn't a gnome, and I don't play drums.

some things we just have to take on trust.

and it will be sad day when that isn't so.


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 01:17 PM

You correspond with him and he tells you all about himself.how could you be wrong then.


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 08:47 AM

Nah - couldn't be WLD - no-one has that vivid an imagination...;-)


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 07:58 AM

cogito Ergo Sum

How do I know who I am
Perhaps I'm not, not really

i could be a hologram
a cypher laid upon an unsuspecting world by a superior alien technology
in fact it would explain quite a bit.


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 06:08 AM

I know lots about Divis, Guest. We correspond regularly. You won't even let us know your name so how can you expect us to believe anything you say?

Cheers

DtG


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 06:35 AM

And how do you know that Mr. Gnome? Did he tell you? But he tells lies.


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Aug 06 - 01:28 PM

all the GUEST posts are made by Divis Sweeney. Get lost all of you.

If all the Guest posts are made by Divis who just made that one?

Anyhow...

Who is to get lost? All the Guests - In which case why are you here? All the Divis Sweeneys - I happen to know there is only one, or all the rest of us - In which case it will be just you and Divis. I am sure you may think that is cozy but I can assure you that Divis isn't at all like that...

:D (tG)


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 17 Aug 06 - 09:15 AM

Guest, Sorry I don't make Guest posts. Shouldn't really be calling you Guest, but will this time I will to save you face. Guest is "threas" running at Doncaster this weekend ?


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Aug 06 - 07:39 AM

This damn thread is just like all the other IRA threas, all the GUEST posts are made by Divis Sweeney. Get lost all of you.


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Aug 06 - 07:31 AM

Shut up about website FAIR.
No one gives a shit.
Start a separate thread for you enthusiasts and leave us alone.


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST,Alison
Date: 15 Aug 06 - 05:57 PM

Divis hi, before you say anything I have not had anything to do with the people on the Website FAIR, as you know that I have been blocked out of their Website for sometime now, which means I cannot say anything to them about things. Guest, billy sands from FAIR contacted me on the tread called something like "sorry, not another NI thread" and I warn you he is a nasty piece of work. I would say he is a very strong Loyalist supporter or a Loyalist himself like Colin from Pontzpass could be too.


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Aug 06 - 08:31 AM

Beats playing the Organ on a Sunday.

Bringing in the sheaths, bringing in the sheaths,
We shall cum rejoicing, bringing in the sheaths,
Bringing in the sheaves, bringing in the sheaths,
We shall cum rejoicing, bringing in the sheaths,


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 13 Aug 06 - 08:30 AM

that's all we need on this thread, a religious nut - too hung up to have a wank.


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Aug 06 - 08:08 AM

Church admitted they have a big problem with ministers visiting porn sites on net. Group set up to help with addiction.

George Williamson said, "Christian Porn-Help" helps people discover the truth about themselves and pornography and "sexual" addictions. While sex is a wonderful, God-given gift, it can be abused like a drug for a variety of reasons. Today, many ministers find themselves captive to addictive cycles of viewing pornography and masturbation. We want ministers to come forward for help and this site could be helpful for them.


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 13 Aug 06 - 07:36 AM

yeh I get that way on Sundays too. I think its when you switch the radio on and itse religious bastards commandeering the airwaves.

its enough to turn any man into a savage.

make a deal, you sortout the multi nationals buggering the rainforest and I'll deal with the American and British government.


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: InOBU
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 08:59 PM

Well mind blaster, tell it to the Guildfor four, the Birmingham 6, all the victems of British torture I knew in the northern counties of Ireland... frankly, if you don't like folks singing about British attrocities, why don't you work very hard to get the UK and US out of Iraq.. one day soon you will have to put up with songs about the wrongs your squaddies committed there as well... in fact I'll write them and sing them.
what the hell, I'm in one of those moods...
Peace, friends,
lor


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 12:16 PM

It is the calibre of the man which is important.


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 11:52 AM

You're fired?


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 10:45 AM

Seems a very loaded question.


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 09:55 AM

Dunno, Paul, but I'll give it my best shot...

:D (tG)


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Paul Burke
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 06:16 AM

"lets hope I get all 6 numbers on that rollover"

Why did I read that as "revolver"?


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 06:48 PM

Sorry that meant to read "sleep well"


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 06:47 PM

Sleep will buddy and regards to the bride.


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 06:41 PM

Oh, bugger. I knew I shouldn't have responded. I can't help it sometimes though. It's just in my make-up.

Everyone, please rewind a few posts to where we were all happy. Lets stop there.

Even more, lets hope I get all 6 numbers on that rollover tomorrow and can arrange a meeting in Hertfordshire followed by one in Armargh:-)

Get over it you guys. I'm off to bed now. See you in t'morn'.

DtG


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 05:46 PM

It was a light hearted post and "No offence meant " was regarding you Keith, which I expect you already know. I would never have to say sorry to Dave or make any kind of an apology to him. He understands my position and accepts mu viewpoint. He would be a good man in conflict resolution situations. Regarding you and I. We will never see eye to eye and I accept it.


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 05:30 PM

Separate you two?
There was no "common or garden personal abuse" from me.
But I am glad you took no offence from it Dave.


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 03:35 PM

Non taken Divis:-)


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 02:35 PM

No offence meant Dave.


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 02:16 PM

OK - I saw that more as a bit of common or garden personal abuse rather than to do with the issue in question but I can see how you took it as furthering hostilities!

Now, have I got to seperate you two or should I get the headmaster?

:D (tG)


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Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 01:27 PM

Referring to 08 12.02 post.


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