Folkies supporting IRA

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST,Guest ..An Irishman
Date: 06 Aug 06 - 05:11 PM

Quote.....The majority of the whole of Ireland want unificaction


Firstly it would be a landslide no fekin two ways about it.

Secondly nobody gives a feck anymore the battles won.

Sing your songs let never it be forgotten.Never let outsiders silence you.You know they dont hear the music like you do let it lift your hearts and f..k em.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: skarpi
Date: 06 Aug 06 - 05:11 PM

You are right Paul I just checked it in a book witch I have he was a welder ....


All the best Skarpi Iceland.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 06 Aug 06 - 05:03 PM

Yes, its strange, but the only fish that comes into Hull now is from Icelandic vessels, I think.

As to the one unfortunate man who died, I THINK he was a welder, working on one of your boats, & the Navy ship warned your vessel that it was starting its engines & moving off. The water from the British ship went over the Icelandic vessel, & because the welder was using an electric arc welding torch, he was electrocuted & died.

But, its a long time ago now, & I may be wrong, but I thought that was what happened.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST,Alison
Date: 06 Aug 06 - 05:01 PM

Guest, you said "Skarpi and Alision I went to that site read their guestbook nothing much about Ireland mostly sex chat."

Loyalists from that Website FAIR have been recently defeated and they are angry about this, so they have lowered themselves and done thay by resulting to accused others of making comments about sex in their guestbook, which they have only made these comments themselves. They can't answer anyone's questions, if these questions do not support Loyalist's views. The Dan Darragh's were trying to have a political debate about Irish issues. The point of these arguments is to point out to people in the world that the Website FAIR is not a genuing site about victims at all. There maybe are real Loyalist and Unionist victims attached to this Website FAIR, but it is sad that they are being used in that way. There should be a Website about all victims from all sides of the fence here and it shoud be about helping them to come to terms with their losses. I am not on any side of the fence, but this Website FAIR is all anti IRA and this just brings hatred to Northern Ireland not peace at all. Kind Regards.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: skarpi
Date: 06 Aug 06 - 04:57 PM

Paul thats true its a shame even today in Iceland the fishing
is just a small income of this nation most of the fish goes with flights to another countrys and never stopped here in Iceland .

less and less people wants to work in this work.

no it wouldnt Paul but thay crashed one of our gunboat and one
man died ....... I remember that crash it was taken up on a tape
and they showed it in a TV I cant remember if the man died in the
crash or after the crash ...

All the Best Skarpi Iceland.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 06 Aug 06 - 04:50 PM

I dont believe there was any way that the Navy would have FIRED on your Gunboats, Skarpi, that just wouldnt have been acceptable.

Yes, have seen it...its a shame that the statue is all thats left of the fishing industry!

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: skarpi
Date: 06 Aug 06 - 04:43 PM

that s true Paul thats so true , but never a less it was a message
the Icelanders to watch out , we had our cutting gear and they had their
guns and big boats

Hey paul did see the statue they put up in Hull ?

All the best Skarpi Iceland

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 06 Aug 06 - 04:36 PM

You could have made a better pun WLD - All that seperates them r the c's...

:D (tG)

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 06 Aug 06 - 04:33 PM

...& not a shot was fired, Skarpi!

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: skarpi
Date: 06 Aug 06 - 04:31 PM

well Keith , as you may already know Iceland was under Danish
command and king as they ruled Iceland .

and I will remind you that the British coverment did sent
Big warships to Icelands coast with guns and bombs .....


All the best Skarpi Iceland.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Aug 06 - 04:19 PM

Like Britain did in Ireland to murder the population.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 06 Aug 06 - 03:44 PM

Skarpi, if you study Irish history far enough you will find the Danish connection.
They raided towns and villages carrying away slaves and loot, leaving survivors to starve.
They destroyed centres of culture and learning, the monastries.
Later they seized land and settled it themselves.
They did the same here.
But that is history. No one will go with guns and bombs to Denmark or Iceland to take revenge for what happened hundreds of years ago.
That would be stupid.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Aug 06 - 08:49 AM

Skarpi and Alision I went to that site read their guestbook nothing much about Ireland mostly sex chat.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 06 Aug 06 - 08:25 AM

ICELAND and IRELAND

a 'c' and a 'r'

Its all that separates them. Like Kurt Vonnegut said, its a grand falloon.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 06 Aug 06 - 08:24 AM

I often wonder about those cassettes of Paisley's sermons, and what sort of spitual sustenance they offer? Has anyone tried them?

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: skarpi
Date: 06 Aug 06 - 07:30 AM

OKai I looked and I have a question ........

FAIR Director William Frazer exposes a 40ft. containor full of toxic waste left over from processing smuggled fuel. This hazardous waste was just abandoned on a country lane in South Armagh.


How did he know about it ?? was this a set up ????to blaim
it on IRA ??? or is it the truth ??????

and why do have all thouse Isreal links ????


Do we have any link to the IRA ?   on web?

what do a nation who come and take away from the native people
the land and burn their houses becouse they cant pay the tax or the (landlord) expect??? that everything is going to be fine ???
that was the doing in the past right or least it was in the past ..... Jesus maria I am gonna
sit down and try to get all the history of Ireland .. we sometimes
ask each other in my work this question " why are they fighting "
most of the Icelandic people dont understand this so where can I
get all the history ????


ofcourse we fight back , the Icelanders did that when the
British tryed take away the fishing right we had

How would the people of England feel if the Icelanders came
to England and acting like this take everything away from them
they would all fight back    right !!!


I know this is not an easy matter and we are NOT gonna solve this
here and everyone has a right to say what they wants to say about this as long as we do not hurt no one with words.

I mentioned the Isreal links ,,, Why? becouse I dont trust
Isreal .... we are haveing proplems with Icelanders in Isreal
they take our people to jail and are asking all kind a questions ???
why I have no Idea we dont know what we have done to them
just few days ago they took 17 years old boy onto jail
and hes from Iceland ..... and its sad to know that a people
who had to go through all that was done to them in the world
war 2 is doing almost the same thing to an another nation ????

Maybe now some one is going to be angry at me , but
this is what I wanted to say ( sorry ) if I have hurt anyone .


I am trying to be in the middle here but I am more Irish than ever
after I have gone through the history ... and I am not done with it .

The year 874 came a Viking to Iceland " Ingólfur Arnarson"
and saddle down in Reykjavík he came from W- Norway "
Sogn og Fjordene " and when I was in Norway last year I
was told about a journey that the Vikings took , and that was the
what I call the Celtic Triangle " Norway down to Danmark to Ireland
up to Scotland, Orkney Islands , Shetlands Island , Forojar Island
and up to Iceland and later to Greenland.

Maybe there is a connection .........   between us and Ireland ??

I have lot of good freinds in UK and I hope I will get more friends
there as in Ireland and I think everyone hopes deep inside their heart
that there will be a peace forever


I have to go now but I will be back ........


All the best SkarpiIceland.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: skarpi
Date: 06 Aug 06 - 06:36 AM

I am just gonna look I am not gonna write anything ..........yet
all Best SkarpiIceland.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST,Alison
Date: 05 Aug 06 - 08:12 PM

Skarpi my friend, the Loyalist Website FAIR is best avoided if you are sensitive to Irish issues. Be warned that it is so one-sided and hurtful to Irish people. They at FAIR are telling all lies, according to Irish people that live there in South Armagh.

Kind Regards.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Aug 06 - 07:23 PM

We Brits would gladly get out of Ireland if you Republicans would promise faithfully to keep all the Unionist loonies. We daren't leave because they'd all flock over here with their passports and we don't want them! Keep them and you can enjoy your fight for evermore. It will be just like Iraq. As the song says "an endless civil war". You're welcome. Will you keep 'em? Have we got a deal?

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST,Martin
Date: 05 Aug 06 - 05:39 PM

www.victims.org.uk

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: skarpi
Date: 05 Aug 06 - 05:13 PM

hallo all , please give their webside .... I want to look .

All the best Ksarpi ICeland.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Aug 06 - 05:10 PM

Went onto F.A.I.R. Alison, creepy site.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST,Alison
Date: 05 Aug 06 - 04:19 PM

Hi Guest, They are very nasty people on that Website FAIR. People get their posts deleted just for asking a simple question. Fiona only asked about a place in South Armagh and they told her the place is full of IRA men and deleted her post and have disrepected her name too. This is not right! This does not help the victims of the conflicts at all. It's so one-sided.

kind Regards to you.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Aug 06 - 04:11 PM

They sound as if their not nice people Alison.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST,Alison
Date: 05 Aug 06 - 04:08 PM

Fiona, your name has been disrespected today on the Website FAIR too, as Big Mick and I have had our names disrespected yesterday. These people from FAIR realy do tells a load of lies about us.
Kind Regards.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST,Alison
Date: 05 Aug 06 - 04:01 PM

Big Mick hi, our names have been disrespected on the Website FAIR by the Loyalist supporters. The Dan Darragh's are defending us. Do you remember replying to my post on their Website FAIR and they deleted both of our posts for telling the truth about their Website FAIR. At present they are angry that they have been defeated. Kind Regards.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 05 Aug 06 - 01:50 PM

And you Mick, hope all's well at that end.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Big Mick
Date: 05 Aug 06 - 01:47 PM

Good man ya are, Divis.

All the best,

Mick

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 05 Aug 06 - 12:53 PM

Keith,
Today I spoke face to face with my source of information regarding Tex Banwell.
He DID NOT serve in Northern Ireland as an adviser to the military command in Ballykinler or Palace Barracks as I was lead to believe.

He attended three charity jumps in the North of Ireland between 1968 and 1972.
He attended two functions as guest of honour at the Officers Mess in the said named barracks.

At no time was he involved in any operation decisions nor was asked to.

I appologise unreservedly to you for anything I posted claiming that he had.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 05 Aug 06 - 12:08 PM

And yourself Sweeney.
There was stuff there not discussed here before.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 05 Aug 06 - 10:40 AM

No problem Keith. Enjoy weekend.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 05 Aug 06 - 10:05 AM

I am sorry.
I thought his post raised several questions.
I should have let it go.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 05 Aug 06 - 09:48 AM

Good afternoon Keith.
Sorry I just went over to that thread again and can't see any question from Joe requiring an answer in his last post. Answered his earlier question. Have now asked him which question he expects an answer to.
Thanks

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 05 Aug 06 - 08:08 AM

Good morning Sweeney.
It is not like you to duck a question.
Joe Richman is still waiting on the other thread.
Keith.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 05 Aug 06 - 06:55 AM

Best wishes from Ireland skarpi. Nice to see you here along with the other right thinking folk. Great to see so many that see things our way.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: skarpi
Date: 05 Aug 06 - 06:49 AM

Hallo , Fiona, Alison , and the rest of you my friends .

Yes you can see the picture of me wearing the cap in Portaferry
at Mudcat I think if look for Portaferry 2004.


Slán go foil
All the best Skarpi Iceland


And we´re all off to Dublin in the green in the green .........

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 05 Aug 06 - 06:04 AM

Guest Dax,
The British can not wait to leave Ireland, if only the people of the North would please stop voting for British rule.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 05 Aug 06 - 06:00 AM

American Guest 08.18
Are you Native American?
If not you live on conquered land.
Feel like giving it back?
And what about the parts of Mexico you then conquered and subjugated?
Without Californian gold and Texas oil the flow of illegal immigrants might now be the other way.

The British army never came close to killing as many civillians as did either the Republican or the Loyalist paramilitaries.
The army is already off the streets and leaving because PIRA have stopped their bombing and shooting.
It could have happened 30 years ago but for them.

We only still rule the North because the majority of the people vote for it.
Thanks to demograpphy that is about to change.
No thanks to any paramilitary killing campaign.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST,Alison
Date: 04 Aug 06 - 08:34 PM

Fiona, thanks again for your reply on here. I have got relatives all over Ireland and Northern Ireland too, but I have so many I don't know all of them. To give you all the places where they live, I would have to write a long list. I was trying to learn more about Ireland for interest in Irish life and for family history purposes.

About the Website FAIR they have been exposed as a cover Website for Loyalists. Believe me stay a way from that site, they are very very anti Catholic, as my family were and are all Catholics in Ireland. These people, which are Loyalists, are similar to the BNP in England I was told. They are so one-sided and if you are not agreeable to them they will delete your posts. There is nothing fair about FAIR. The infomation they have on their Website are mostly propeganda news according to Irish people who live in Northern Ireland. The British Governmant has refused to give them any funding, which they FAIR were asking for. That Website brings nothing but hatred to Northern Ireland and now the now world knows it. They are snakes with venom waiting to bite someone that does not agree with them. At present they are angry because they have been defeated and you have arrived here on this forum in a ceasefire! Willie Frazer seems to be their leader, and when he came to England he got arrested by the police for something to do with protesting against Sinn Fein's Good Friday Agreement with the Britsh Government. I am not a politcal person here, but you can read about this on the D.U.P. Ivan Foster's Website, but it is all in support for Willie Frazer though. There might be real Loyalist & Unionist victims attached to this Website FAIR, but it is sad to use these victims as they have suffered too during the conflicts. When I found this Website FAIR for the first time I thought it was about all innocent victims from both sides of the conflicts, but it was not so I did asked and my post was deleted, because I said that Catholics should have a right to have a say. They replied to someone else and said Catholics should not have any rights at all or let alone allowed to live. I just thought I would fill you in up to date to what people are saying about the Website FAIR. Kind Regards.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST,An Englishman
Date: 04 Aug 06 - 08:31 PM

Yes I accept our soldiers murdered civilians. Yes the IRA and provos shot many soldiers in gun battles. What I am saying is it's time we left Ireland we tried and failed to conquer her.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Aug 06 - 08:18 PM

They also removed quite a few of the invading British army and the British Royal Ulster Constabulary. The British army also killed many civilians. The British army are now leaving Ireland the British Royal Ulster Constabulary went a long time ago. Britain were never the lawful rulers in Ireland. As an America we supported the Irish RA. Few Irish Americans cried at the sight of British army coffins leaving Ireland.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST,An Englishman
Date: 04 Aug 06 - 06:50 PM

The English were the lawful rulers of Ireland from the time that Oliver Cromwell (otherwise to be execrated as a regicide) conquered that place. The English (and British) armies targeted traitors rebels and terrorists and their supporters (as Israel is now doing in Lebanon). The IRA and provos killed mostly civilians.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Aug 06 - 06:43 PM

Alison all I asked was about South Armagh !
My mother was born there and I was doing a search and came across their site. My question was about Cullyhanna and the townlands. They replied that I was asking about an area full of I.R.A. men and removed my post. I tried to get back on to reply and found I was blocked. Silly little men. My partner visits this site and told me they were talking about the group known as F.I.A.R. Not very fair to us !
Fiona

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST,Alison
Date: 04 Aug 06 - 06:15 PM

Hi Fiona, thanks for you reply here. All I asked them was why they were so one-sided and why was their Website FAIR not anti Unionist or anti Loyalist as well, as they are all anti IRA. My posts were deleted too. I was not hostile at all, as I even stated that I am not on any side of the fence in Ireland and that I was just trying to learn about Ireland. They have insulted my name and they have accused me of being a republican and a member of Sinn Fein. It is all ridiculous! Kind Regards.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST,dax
Date: 04 Aug 06 - 04:37 PM

The greatest sin of modern day Britain is that they perceive themselves as being some kind of moderating factor in Ireland. This is exactly what they are not! Time to pack it up and get to hell out and let the Irish themselves decide their own destiny . You can not be part of a solution when you are regarded as the problem. You gave Hong Kong back to China so give Ulster back to Ireland.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Aug 06 - 12:53 PM

Alison I also went onto that site and asked three questions about Northern Ireland and they removed it. It wasn't rude, but they blocked me from returning. Very one sided.
Best wishes
Fiona

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 04 Aug 06 - 12:25 PM

I reckon you get that picture very sharply from mudcat.

Outsiders seem to see Northern Ireland politics as a sort of football game, and they take one side or another. they tend to be a lot more gung ho than Irish people in their approbation or the opposite of the various factions.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: GUEST,Alison
Date: 04 Aug 06 - 10:37 AM

Thank you Snuffy for filling me in here, as I am new on here.
Kind Regards.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Snuffy
Date: 04 Aug 06 - 09:28 AM

Alison, the chap with the tri-colour hat (Skarpi) isn't Irish: he's an Icelander, and was visiting Northern Ireland for a Mudcat gathering!

As an outsider, he probably has no more insight into Irish matters than Englanders like you or I, but he now has first-hand experience of some of the problems.

Subject: RE: Folkies supporting IRA
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 04 Aug 06 - 06:33 AM

*ROFL* ....so we wouldnt recognise his handwriting....

Nice one, Other Paul!

(still trying to reonise Guest Alisons handwriting...)