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Subject: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Azizi Date: 12 Jul 06 - 08:38 PM This is not a copy-cat thread. But I admit that this thread Lyr Req: Oscar Brown's 'Forbidden Fruit' got me my categorization jones going again. For some time I've been thinking about the whats and whys and wherefores of children's rhymes & children's songs that I've read or heard that mention snakes. And I figure there's probably also a number of adult songs that mention snakes. So if you wanna you can blame that other thread for prompting me to ask this question: What children and/or adult songs & rhymes do you know that mention snakes? **** Btw, in No way is this Snake thread an attempt to rip off that "Forbidden Fruit" thread. Though that thread contains examples and information about songs that mention snakes, in my opinion this thread's intent is broader. Also, it seems to me that if people post songs about snakes on this thread, then because of this thread's title, folks seeking songs about snakes will be better able to find them here then on a thread that is named "Forbidden Fruit". Again, no disrespect to that title or to that thread... **** Having said that, I'll start with some examples I've found and hope that you join in. |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Azizi Date: 12 Jul 06 - 08:49 PM There's a number of versions of this children's rhyme that mentions snakes [among other things]: Coca Cola .. Came to town Diet Pepsi ... Come on down Theres a place on mars where the women smoke cigars Every puff they take is enough to kill a snake When the snake is dead they put roses on its head When the roses die . they put diamonds in its eyes When the diamond break .. they begin to make a cake When the cake is done ... it'll be 1991 http://blog.oftheoctopuses.com/000518.php posted by heather at March 18, 2006 **** theres a place on mars where the women smoke cigars and the men wear bikinis and the babies drink martinis every step you take is enough to kill a snake when the snake is dead you put diamonds on his head when the diamonds crack you put mustard on its back when the mustard dries its year 1969. then you tell the king and the king says FREEZE! http://blog.oftheoctopuses.com/000518.php posted by September at July 11, 2006 **** [Also, a version of this rhyme was given in a Mudcat thread. I'm reposting that entire comment. I hope it is alright to do so]: In The Land Of Oz Some dim fragments from my far-off childhood.. "Say say my playmate, come out and play with me" was popular for both skipping, clapping, and elastic games. And finally, there was "In the land of Oz" which was also multipurpose. In the land of Oz where the ladies smoke cigars Every puff they take is enough to kill a snake When the snakes are dead they put roses in their head When the roses die They put diamonds in their eye When the diamonds break It is nineteen-(sixty)-eight! This of course had its own risque variant: "In the land of Oz / where the ladies don't wear bras / but the men don't care / cause they don't wear underwear!" Mudcat; "Child's Game: Elastics", posted by Bard Judith, 26 Sep 05 [I tried to find the thread URL by putting "children's games elastics" in the search engine-without apostraphes-but got 'no results'] |
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Subject: Lyr Add: SNEAKY SNAKE (Tom T. Hall) From: GUEST,Dale Date: 12 Jul 06 - 08:51 PM SNEAKY SNAKE Words and music by Tom T. Hall (c&p, not checked) [G] Boys and girls take [G7] warning If [C] you go near the [G] lake [C] keep your eyes wide [G] open And [A7] look for Sneaky [D7] Snake Now [G] maybe you won't [G7] see him And [C] maybe you won't [G] hear But [C] he'll sneak up behind [G] you And [D7] drink all of your Root [G] Beer. CHORUS: And then [G] Sneaky Snake goes [C] dancin' [G] wigglin' and a-[C] hissin' [G] Sneaky Snake goes dancin' [A7] gigglin' and a-[D7] kissin' I [G] dont like old [G7] Sneaky Snake, He [C] laughs too much, you [G] see When [C] he goes wiggin' [G] thru the grass It [D7] tickles his under-[G] neath. Well, Sneaky Snake drinks Root Beer and he just makes me sick When he is not dancin', he looks just like a stick Now he doesn't have any arms or legs, you cannot see his ears And while we are not lookin', he's stealin' all of our beer. CHORUS |
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Subject: Lyr Add: OLD BILL THE ROLLING PIN From: Azizi Date: 12 Jul 06 - 08:54 PM Here's an example that I shared in this Mudcat thread: African American Secular Folk Songs OLD BILL THE ROLLING PIN Bessie Jones, Bess Lomax Hawes,"Step It Down" {University of Georgia Press, 1972, p. 208} Now, Old Bill the Rolling Pin this morning. Now, Old Bill the Rolling Pin this morning. Now, Old Bill the Rolling Pin, He's up the road and back again. Big eyes and double chin this morning. I geed to the mule but the mule wouldn't gee this morning. I geed to the mule but the mule wouldn't gee this morning. I geed to the mule but the mule wouldn't gee. I knocked him side the head with thes singletree this morning. Now Old Bill, etc. I hawed the mule but the mule wouldn't haw this morning. I hawed the mule but the mule wouldn't haw this morning. I hawed the mule but the mule wouldn't haw, He wouldn't do nothing but the pssum-la this morning. Now Old Bill, etc. Mister Frog went swimming down the lake this morning. Mister Frog went swimming down the lake this morning. Mister Frog went swimming down the lake. But he got swallowed by a big black snake this morning. Now Old Bill, etc. [sung to the chorus melody] Mrs. Duck went swimming down the lake this morning. Mrs. Duck went swimming down the lake this morning. Mrs. Duck went swimming down the lake. But she got struck by a big black snake. Poor thing, her neck got breaked this morning. Note from book: "When the mule wouldn't do nothing but the possum-la, that means he'd back around and cut up and like that-like he was dancing...* Mrs Jones say that Old Bill was a "patterroller" and that people made this song up to make fun of him. During slavery, when Negroes were not allowed to leave their home plantation without a pass, "patterollers" were armed guards, hired to patrol the roads at night, enforcing the pass system. This particular 'patteroller' had "big eyes and a double chin", apparently reminding the singers of Mister Frog {the same one who went a-courting and who got "struck by a big black snake"}. The mule,who dances instead of working,is not as extraneous as he may seem either." -snip- |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Bob the Postman Date: 12 Jul 06 - 08:59 PM The first snake I thought of was the one at the end of the play-party song Froggy Went A-Courting |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Bob the Postman Date: 12 Jul 06 - 09:00 PM Darn that cross-posting. |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Azizi Date: 12 Jul 06 - 09:02 PM That's a good one, Dale. Thanks for posting it. **** Speaking of a Sneaky Snake goin dancin' wigglin' and a-hissin', here's a children's taunting rhyme that mentions a snake: skip skip snake in your hips wiggle around and break ur lip. http://blog.oftheoctopuses.com/000518.php posted by j-mil at April 9, 2005 **** Here's another example from that Octoblog website: ok ok ... its bad but its not 4 your lil kids .. of course ... yes i am a bad lil gurl hehe... I was dreamin of genie With a ten foor weinie And I showed to the girl next door. She though it was a snake And she hit it with a rake And now it's only five foor four i dont realli care tho ... http://blog.oftheoctopuses.com/000518.php posted by Cassi at April 17, 2004 [Note: the Octoblog examples are used with permission from that blog's members] |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Azizi Date: 12 Jul 06 - 09:06 PM Hey Bob the Postman! We didn't post the exact same song and even if we did, that's the Internet for you-not the mention the fact that it would serve as an example of great minds thinking alike :o} |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Mr Happy Date: 12 Jul 06 - 09:28 PM @displaysong.cfm?SongID=2592 |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: GUEST,Dale Date: 12 Jul 06 - 09:28 PM Wendy Bagwell was a comedian/gospel musician who died about 10 years ago. Sometime in the long ago Wendy (Wendell) recorded a song called "Here Come The Rattlesnakes". I believe it was released under other names as well, Maybe the Rattle Snake Song? Anyway, in the song, more recitation really, Wendy talked of being at a church in I think West Virginia. Turned out it was a snake-handling church. Wendy and his backup singers started looking for an exit. When he asked somebody where the back door was, he was informed that there wasn't one. So Wendy sez something like, "Where do you reckon you'd like one?" A member of the congregation chided Wendy for not taking kindly to snakes. The exchange went something like this: Brother so and so: You mean if the Lord asked you to take up a snake that you wouldn't do it? Wendy: Yes, I would . . . but he didn't and I ain't! Sorry I don't have it. I had a Wendy Bagwell and the Sunliters album years ago. Probably still do, just don't know where. This is the sort of thing that might be right down Gene's alley. I'll check in with him. |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: GUEST,Joe_F Date: 12 Jul 06 - 09:34 PM Springfield Mountain. Lord Randall (not actually mentioned, but implied). --- Joe Fineman joe_f@verizon.net ||: Men are luckier than women: they marry later & die sooner. :|| |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Bob the Postman Date: 12 Jul 06 - 09:40 PM And of course bluegrass has its awful Dreadful Snake |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Ferrara Date: 12 Jul 06 - 09:50 PM Here's a thread on Rattlesnake Mountain/Springfield Mountain. |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Gorgeous Gary Date: 12 Jul 06 - 10:00 PM How 'bout "I'm Being Swallowed by a Boa Constrictor". The only rhymes I remember from it tho' are "...oh gee, it's up to my knee..." and "...oh heck, it's up to my neck..." (usually followed by *gulp*) -- Gary |
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Subject: Lyr Add: WOODY KNOWS NOTHING From: Janie Date: 12 Jul 06 - 10:17 PM Bluejay pulled the 4 horse plow Sparrow why can't you? Because my legs is little and thin And they might get broke in two. Redbird sittin' on a sycamore limb Singin' out his soul Big black snake crawled up that tree And swallowed that poor bird whole. Wild geese flyin' thru the air Thru the sky of blue They're now a floatin' where the north wind blows So why not me and you. |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Janie Date: 12 Jul 06 - 10:22 PM And a verse from 'Groundhog'... Rattlesnake, oh rattlesnake Tell me why your bite so bad? I been crawlin' on the ground so darn long Lucky I ain't dead, dead. Lucky I ain't dead. |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Janie Date: 12 Jul 06 - 10:29 PM And one verse from "Dem Bones Gonna Rise Again" that I can't remember and both the search and refresh functions are too screwed up to take me to. |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Rapparee Date: 12 Jul 06 - 10:49 PM All I could think of off hand was "Here, Rattler, here" and that ain't it. |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Mrrzy Date: 12 Jul 06 - 11:02 PM Doc Watson's version of Froggy Went A-Courtin' ends in "and he got swallered up (gulp, gulp) by a big black snake" ...and there is a poem about Texas and how the devil put all kinds offawful stuff there and that mentions rattlesnakes, I'll look that one up. |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Mrrzy Date: 12 Jul 06 - 11:05 PM In seeking that poem I found this line from a gRATEFUL dEAD SONG: Here there may be rattlesnakes, to punch you in the eye... |
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Subject: Lyr Add: THE BEGINNING OF TEXAS From: Mrrzy Date: 12 Jul 06 - 11:08 PM Found it: THE BEGINNING OF TEXAS The Devil in Hell, we are told, was chained. Ten thousand years he there remained. He didn't complain nor did he groan, But he swore he would have a Hell of his own, Where he could torment the souls of men Without being chained in a prison pen. So he asked the Lord if he had on hand Anything left when He made this land. The Lord said, "Yes, I have plenty of land, But it's down in Texas on the Rio Grande. The fact is, old boy, the stuff is so poor I don't think you could make a Hell anymore." The Devil went down to look at the tract, Said, "If I get if for nothing, I surely am stuck," But in order to get the stuff off his hands, The Lord promised the Devil to water the lands. He had lots of water for which there which there was no use: 'Twas the Rio Grande River and stinks like the deuce; So the bargain was made and the deed was given, And the Lord went back to His seat in Heaven. "Now," said the Devil, "I've all that is needed To make a good Hell," and he nearly succeeded. He put thorns on all the trees, And filled up the sand with millions of fleas. He put thorns on the cactus and horns on the toads, And scattered tarantulas along the road, Made the rattlesnake bite and the scorpions sting, And the mosquitoes amuse you with the buzz of their wings. He covered the country with millions of ants, So when you sit down, they eat holes in your pants. He lengthened the horns on the Texas steers, And built two additions on the jackrabbits' ears. The wild boar roams through the black chaparral. What a hell of a place he got for his Hell! The heat in the summer is two hundred and ten, Too hot for the Devil and too hot for the men. Red peppers grow wild on the banks of the brook, And the Mexicans use them in all that they cook. Just dine with a Mex, and no more will you doubt, That it's hell on the inside as well as the out. But now things have changed, for the soil was so rich, They could feed the whole world by the side of that ditch. The finest legumbers and fruit in the land, Are grown in Texas by the Rio Grande. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: SAINT PATRICK WAS A GENTLEMAN From: SharonA Date: 12 Jul 06 - 11:42 PM What, no songs about Saint Patrick yet??? Let's fix that right now. I've copied this version of "St. Patrick Was a Gentleman" from The Session website (there's more info there, on the tune and so forth, also). It differs a bit from the Mudcat DT version... SAINT PATRICK WAS A GENTLEMAN words by Henry Bennett and John Tolekin (?) Saint Patrick was a gentleman, and he came of decent people, In Dublin town he built a church, and he put a'-pon't a steeple, His father was a Wollogan, his mother was a Grady, His aunt she was a Kinnigan, and his wife the widow Brady. CHORUS (repeat after each verse): Then success to bold Saint Patrick's fist, For he was a saint so clever, He gave the snakes and toads a twist And banished them forever. There's not a mile in Ireland's isle, where the dirty vermin musters, Where-e'er he put his dear forefoot, he murder'd them in clusters, The toads went hop, the frogs went flop, slap dash into to water, And the snakes committed suicide to save themselves from slaughter. Nine hundred thousand reptiles blue, he charm'd with sweet discourses, And dined on them at Killaloe, in soups and second courses, When blind worms crawling in the grass, disgusted all the nation, He gave them a rise, which ope'd theier eyes to a sense of their situation. No wonder that those Irish lads should be so gay and frisky, For Saint Patrick taught them first the joys of tippling the whisky, No wonder that the saint himself to taste it should be willing, For his mother kept a she-ban shop, in the town of Enniskillen. The Wicklow hills are very high, and so's the hill of Howth, sir, But there's a hill much higher still, ay, higher than them both, sir; 'Twas on the top of this high hill Saint Patrick preached the sarment, He drove the frogs into the bogs, and bother'd all the varment. Oh! was I but so fortunate as to be back in Munster, 'Tis I'll be bound that from that ground I nevermore would once stir. For there Saint Patrick planted turf, and plenty of the praties, With pigs galore, ma gra, ma store, and cabbages -- and ladies. (According to a comment on the site, 'a gradh mo stor' means 'My love, my treasure') |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Mo the caller Date: 13 Jul 06 - 01:12 AM An English version of the one Azizi posted at 09.02pm My friend Billy had a 6 foot willy And he showed it to the girl next door She thought it was a snake and she hit it with a rake And now it's only 5 foot 4 (of course I didn't know what it meant, when I heard it at school!) "I'm Being Swallowed by a Boa Constrictor". I'm Being Swallowed by a Boa Constrictor and I don't like it one bit (twice) Oh no, its up to my toe (twice) I'm being... Oh gee it's up to my knee Oh fiddle, it's up to my middle You've guessed, it's up to my chest Oh heck, it's up to my neck Scream Ther may be more, that's all I can remember. I heard it at a Hobby Horse club at Litchfield Folk Festival about 10 years ago. Then of course there's the tune called Morgan Rattler. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: BOA CONSTRICTOR (Shel Silverstein) From: SharonA Date: 13 Jul 06 - 01:33 AM Here's the original (Shel Silverstein) version of... BOA CONSTRICTOR Shel Silverstein - Tro-Hollis Music, Inc. BMI I'm being swallowed by a boa constrictor I'm being swallowed by a boa constrictor I'm being swallowed by a boa constrictor And I don't like it very much! Oh no, oh no, He swallowed my toe, he swallowed my toe Oh gee, oh gee, He's up to my knee, he's up to my knee Oh fiddle, oh fiddle, He's reached my middle, he's reached my middle Oh heck, oh heck, He's up to my neck, he's up to my neck Oh dread, oh dread, He swallowed my.... schlirppp! ---------------- Note: the version I learned from my older brothers included a bit of the "folk process"; they added: Oh my, oh my, he swallowed my thigh, he swallowed my thigh and Oh darn, oh darn, he swallowed my arm, he swallowed my arm |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Joe Offer Date: 13 Jul 06 - 01:46 AM I was just telling somebody today how John in Brisbane used to torment me with snake stories and e-mail snake photos to me. I think he actually liked the 8-foot boa constrictor that lived under his house. He said it kept the bad snakes away. I hate snakes. -Joe Offer, in Rattlesnake Country- |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Doug Chadwick Date: 13 Jul 06 - 02:54 AM This song, Henry My Son (also known as Green and Yella), tells the sad tale of someone, who eats snakes, mistaking them for eels. DC |
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Subject: Lyr Add: SAMMY THE SNAKE (Jeffrey Moss) From: Azizi Date: 13 Jul 06 - 07:52 AM You know things are bad* when you wake up with a song on your mind from an early 1970 Sesame Street television show. That song is demanding to be posted on this Mudcat thread so here it is: SAMMY THE SNAKE sung by Sammy the Snake (Jim Henson) Written by Jeffrey Moss (spoken) Sssss! Say hey! I'm Sammy the snake, and I'm here to tell you people something about the letter "S". (sung) Oh, I'm Sammy the snake And I look like the letter "S"ssss. Oh, yes. I'm all wiggly and curvy, And I look like the letter "S"ssss. I confess. But do you know the sound Of Sammy the snake? Well, the sound of the letter "S" Is the sound I make. (spoken) I say "Sssssss!" Let me tell you about it. Out of sight. (sung) I say "Sssss!" in the morning, "Sssss!" in the afternoon. (spoken) Yes, I do to all my snake friends. (sung) I say "See you later, Slinky." She's my sister. I say "See you soon." (spoken) Yeah, she's super slick. (sung) Yeah, I'm Sammy the snake, And I have to confess That I look and I sound just like the letter "S". (spoken) Now come on, all you children, and make that "S" sound with me. Here we go. Ssssssssssss! Yeah, that's fine. That's the sound you hear in the beginning of a word like "sing" or "storytime." Let's do it again. Ssssssssssss! Yeah, you hear that sound in the beginning of a word like "seesaw," "silly," "super," "star," or "seven." (sung) Yeah, I'm Sammy the snake, And I have to confess That I look and I sound just like the letter "S". (spoken) Ssssssssssss! So long. -snip- Online source for the transcription http://members.tripod.com/Tiny_dancer/sammy.html **** * But then again, sometimes 'bad' means 'good'. And I think that many Sesame Street segments were very good ['good' meaning 'creative']. I haven't seen that show for years. I hope the segments are still good. Btw: is this show seen outside of the USA? |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: GUEST Date: 13 Jul 06 - 08:07 AM I adder, I adder, I adder I aye, I ups and I shows her the way.... |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Azizi Date: 13 Jul 06 - 08:13 AM One of the things I like best about Mudcat is that it provides opportunities for folks around the world to share their versions of songs and rhymes. And Mudcat also provides the opportunity for folks with that interest to ponder about and exchange thoughts about the origin and meaning of songs and rhymes. And-no it's not of heavy duty importance, but it is interesting and fun for folks like me...so in that spirit, I'd like to take a station break [sorry, a discussion break] from examples of rhymes to return to add some thoughts on the "I was dreamin of genie' rhyme found in my 12 Jul 06 - 09:02 PM post: I'm wondering if this was the original American version of that rhyme was the same as the English version that Mo the Caller posted "My friend Billy had a 6 foot willy"? If so, the "I Dream of Jeanie" television show probably accounts for the USA change. Re-runs of that show are probably still on tv, but the show was first seen in 1965 and filming ended in 1970. Click http://www.tv.com/i-dream-of-jeannie/show/608/summary.html for a summary of that show and some clips from that show. Also-you probably figured this out- but the words 'i dont realli care' are not part of the rhyme, but are Cassi's statement about folks' opinion of her for reciting such a risque rhyme. Btw, Cassi has other entries & witty comments on that Octoblog thread. I wish I knew more about her. I'm assuming that she's from the USA. In one of her posts she says she's a pre-teen [or was it a teenager?]. At any rate, she's a delight! |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: GUEST Date: 13 Jul 06 - 08:15 AM "The Laily Worm and the Machrel of the Sea" - in Child's collection. Recently anglicised, recorded and released as 'The Loathsome Worm and the Mackerel of the Sea" by young English singer and guitarist James Raynard on his 'Strange Histories' LP. |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Mo the caller Date: 13 Jul 06 - 08:27 AM Yes we had Sesame Street in England. The last time I overwatched it (if there isn't a word like overheard that means seeing something accidentally, there should be) was 6 years ago, while caring for my Mother-in-law. She was chair bound with Arthritis and Parkinsons, so had nothing much to do but listen to tapes and watch TV. She found Sesame Street highly amusing. Didn't I read somewhere that the puppet makers were English? |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Snuffy Date: 13 Jul 06 - 09:11 AM The Shakespeare Mummers have been singing "Not for Joe" including a variant of that verse at the end of our plays for many years: My Uncle Billy had a ten foot willy And he showed it to the girl next door. She though it was a snake, so she hit it with a rake And now it's only five foot four We've never changed that verse, but we did change the first verse: We had a little N***** and he grew no bigger So we put him in the Wild West Show He fell through the window and broke his little finger And he couldn't play the old banjo This is now We had a little mummer and he was no strummer etc |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Dave the Gnome Date: 13 Jul 06 - 09:16 AM and one from Lancashire My brother Billy's got a ten foor willy and he showed it to the girl next door She thought it was a snake and she hit it with a rake and now it's only five foot four Had to come down to it didn't it? :D (tG) |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: GUEST Date: 13 Jul 06 - 09:18 AM What about: Rattlesnake Rock - Pete Atkin (lyrics by Clive James) The song about Hissing Sid from Captain Beaky (don't know the song title) - Keith Michell Trust in Me (from the Disney animated movie Jungle Book) |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Paco Rabanne Date: 13 Jul 06 - 09:27 AM 'Snakes on everything' by Little Feat. |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Scrump Date: 13 Jul 06 - 09:30 AM Oops! That last GUEST was me. Sorry, my cookie must have been deleted or something. |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: webfolk Date: 13 Jul 06 - 09:37 AM The Lambton Worm could be thought of as being about a snake, or a dragon. I think of it as a sort of 'Geordie' verion of 'George and the Dragon' really seeing as how Lord Lambton (Sir John) goes off to fight in the crusades in it. Geoff |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: webfolk Date: 13 Jul 06 - 09:38 AM Letterland, the tool used in may schools to teach the alphabet, has a set of songs with it for each charachter and there is one for Sammy Snake. Geoff |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: dick greenhaus Date: 13 Jul 06 - 10:46 AM Y'know- This is the kind of thing that DigiTrad is especially handy for. Just look for "snake", then "snakes", then "serpent" etc. and you get a very healthy start to a list. |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Azizi Date: 13 Jul 06 - 03:37 PM Dick, I agree that the Digitrad is a Great start. But that list doesn't appear to include any children's rhymes. Also, I started this thread because I'm curious what examples folks would share [examples that may or may not yet be in the DigiTrad]. And besides, I was hoping that there might be some discussion of the origin/source materials/meanings of some of these songs. |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: katlaughing Date: 13 Jul 06 - 03:57 PM That "list" is a song database of many, many years of work on the part of Dick Greenhaus and Susan of the DT, long before the Mudcat even came into being. Not every song which gets listed on Mudcat makes it into the DT; it's up to Dick and Susan what gets included. Also, IF you have already posted a song/rhyme/whatever elsewhere on Mudcat, save the space and just post a link. kat |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Azizi Date: 13 Jul 06 - 05:25 PM katlaughing - I very much appreciate the effort and dedication that went into the creation of the Digitrad. I recognize that every song posted on Mudcat won't be added to the Digitrad. And I also recognize it was/is not meant to be a source for children's rhymes. As to my providing a link to a song/rhyme/post that I [or presumably] anyone else has written on Mudcat, I don't know how to post a link to a specific post on a thread. I'm technologically challenged, and just learned how to post to a specific thread a little more than a year ago. I'd appreciate it if you or someone else could share those instructions with me. Thank you. |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: GUEST,ClaireBear Date: 13 Jul 06 - 05:34 PM Here's a "toast" version of St Patrick Was a Gentleman. I seem to recall getting it from the 1950s Penguin book of Folk Songs: Saint Patrick was a gentleman Who through strategy and stealth Drove all the snakes from Ireland Here's a bumper to his health. But not too many bumpers Or we'll lose ourselves and then Forget the good St Patrick And see the snakes again. |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Big Al Whittle Date: 13 Jul 06 - 05:41 PM Springfield Mountain, there was a snake there as I remember. Fod |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: katlaughing Date: 13 Jul 06 - 05:42 PM When you get the box up in which you type your post, you will see at the righthand bottom "Make a link (blue clicky)" Click on that. Failing that, here's the html which you can put in manually, as posted in the FAQs by Joe Offer:
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: katlaughing Date: 13 Jul 06 - 05:44 PM The addy which is in that above example, the text in RED, is just an example. You would want to replace it with whatever the addy is of the place/page you want to link to. I thought you had links on your website, no? |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Azizi Date: 13 Jul 06 - 05:46 PM Here's another version of the song "Johnny Booker" than I found on the Digitrad. The source for this version is Dorothy Scarborough "On The Trail Of Negro Folk Songs" {Folklore Associates, Inc. edition; 1963; p.100 ; originally published by Harvard, University Press, 1925} JOHNNY BOOKER I went down to de back of de fiel' A black snake cotch me by de heel. I cut my dus', I run my bes,' I run right into a horney's nes'. Chorus: Oh, do, Mr. Booker, do! Oh, do, Mr. Booker, do! Oh, do, Mr. Booker, Johnny Booker, Mr Booker, Mr, Booker, Johnny Booker, do! -snip- See Scarborough's introduction to that song: "Dr. Wyeth performed magical tricks with a banjo, as he had been taught by old Uncle Billy in slavery times. He evoked melodies of wishful gaiety by drawing a handkerchief across the banjo strings, and lively tunes by playing it with a whisk-broom. And when he danced some of the old breakdowns for me, just to show how they went, I felt transported to an old plantation of days before the war. Another of the dance-songs he gave me was Johnny Booker." |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Azizi Date: 13 Jul 06 - 05:52 PM katlaughing, I'm continuing this exchange here rather than by pm, because other people might also be interested in finding out how to do this. I have used the blue clicky thingy on the bottom of these posting boxes for hyperlinking to a thread, but how do you ensure that you hyperlink to a specific post on a thread? I'm grateful to have that easier make a blue clicky thingy because frankly the red html or whatever it is that Joe Offer has scares me. I'm not sure that I understand how to do it. As to how I make hyperlinks on my website, my webmaster showed me how to do it and it works there, but the same thing doesn't work here. And sometimes I forget how to do it there, and have to ask him for a reminder course. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: OUTRUNNING THE DEVIL From: Azizi Date: 13 Jul 06 - 06:07 PM There was a time that I tried to read something heavy duty in the line from African American folk songs about snakes biting people on the heel. But now I figure these lines reflected the worry that people had who lived in areas where there are a lot of snakes-maybe this worry was even more pronounced in people who were barefooted, because they couldn't afford shoes, but I'm not sure about that. Here's another song I found with a line about a snake biting a person on the heel. This song also has the line about falling into a hornet's nest: OUTRUNNING THE DEVIL I went upon de mountain, An' I seed de Devil comin'. I retched an' got my hat an' coat, An' I beat de Devil runnin'. As I run'd down across de fiel'. A rattlesnake bit me on de heel. I rears an' pitches an' does my bes' An' I falls right back in a hornet's nes'. For w'en I wus a sinnah man, I run by leaps an' boun's. I wus afeard de Devil 'ould ketch me Wid his ole three legged houn's. But now I'se come a Christun, I kneels right down an' prays. An' den de Devil runs from me- I'se tried dem other ways. Source: Thomas W. Talley "Negro Folk Rhymes" {Kennikat Press, Inc. Edition, 1968, p. 108; originally published by The Macmillan Co., 1922} |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Azizi Date: 13 Jul 06 - 06:25 PM Re "Dem Bones Gonna Rise Again": I've found some online versions of this song that have this verse: Serpent crawling around that trunk. Dem bones gonna rise again At miss Eve, his eye he wunk. Dem bones gonna rise again Source: http://www.scoutsongs.com/lyrics/dembones.html And other online versions that subsitute 'Satan' for 'serpent' like here: Round that tree old Satan slunk Dem bones gonna rise again At Miss Eve his eye he wunk. Dem bones gonna rise again Source: http://ingeb.org/spiritua/dembones.html I think that the serpent version is probably the oldest one, since a serpent 'slunking' makes more sense than Satan slunking. But it's an open question as to whether serpents can 'wink' or not... |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: SharonA Date: 13 Jul 06 - 06:34 PM More link-posting info for Azizi! In order to create a link on Thread A to a specific post on Thread B, you need to do the following: Open the thread you want to link to (Thread B). At the top of that thread is a list of posts that have been made to the thread (names, dates and times), all of which are links to those posts. Click on the link that takes you to the post you're targeting. (You can click on the name, the date or the time of the post -- any of those will link you to the post.) The URL of that post will now appear in the "Address" section at the top of your window. For example, the URL of the lovely poem Kendall posted on the "Sorch's Most Recent Strange Experience" thread (11 Jul 06 - 10:08 AM) is http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=92868&messages=28#1781007 Copy the URL. Click on the "Make a link ('blue clicky')" link to the right of the "Submit Message" button at the bottom of the thread. Paste the URL into the "Link URL" box in the Link Maker window. If desired, type some text in the "Link text (optional*)" box in the Link Maker window. (For our example, I will type "Bill Levenworth poem posted by Kendall".) Click the "Create Link" button. Copy the HTML gobbledygook that appears in the window -- this is your link to the message on Thread B. Paste it into your message on Thread A. Here's the link from my example: Bill Levenworth poem posted by Kendall You can even make a link to a post that's on the same thread (Thread A)! Here's a link to Azizi's post where she asked for these instructions (13 Jul 06 - 05:25 PM): Azizi's question Clear as mud? Sharon |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: GUEST,Amy Date: 13 Jul 06 - 06:42 PM Wow! So that is how it's done. Thanks a lot SharonA and Katlaughing for the info! Amy |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Azizi Date: 13 Jul 06 - 06:50 PM Yes, thank you both! And Amy, thanks for posting that comment. I guess maybe it's a case of misery liking company, but at least I know that I'm not the only one who didn't know how to do this. I'll copy these instructions and put it in my files so I can find it when I get up the nerve to try it. Best wishes, Azizi |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Amos Date: 13 Jul 06 - 07:03 PM It is funny to notice that no-one has offered the verse from "Keep On Truckin' Mama" which implores: "Keep that black snake off, me it's cold and clammy to the touch!" "Keep that black snake off, me it's cold and clammy to the touch!" "Oh, mama, mama, donc'ha realize? That blacksnake 'longs between your thighs" "Keep that black snake off, me it's cold and clammy to the touch!" But maybe that was better left unmentioned.... A |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: SharonA Date: 13 Jul 06 - 07:06 PM Azizi and Amy: No problem! Mind you, this is the method I've devised through trial-and-error. If there's an easier way to find the URL of a specific post (without having to take note of the name and date and time of the post, go to the top of the thread, and hunt for the link with the right name-date-time match), then I wish somebody would tell me! |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 13 Jul 06 - 08:19 PM How about I Ain't Fattening Frogs For Snakes, by the Larks? A guy singing about his woman he's taking care of so well, who's cheating on him with some snake in the grass.. Jerry |
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Subject: Lyr Add: BLACK SNAKE MOAN (Blind Lemon Jefferson) From: Azizi Date: 13 Jul 06 - 09:21 PM Speaking of black snakes, here's a classic song: BLACK SNAKE MOAN by Blind Lemon Jefferson recording of circa June 1926, Chicago, Illinois from Blind Lemon Jefferson (Milestone 47022) I - I ain't got no mama now I - I ain't got no mama now She told me late last night, "You don't need no mama no how" Mmm, mmm, black snake crawlin' in my room Mmm, mmm, black snake crawlin' in my room Some pretty mama better come and get this black snake soon Ohh-oh, that must have been a bed bug, baby a chinch can't bite that hard Ohh-oh, that must have been a bed bug, honey a chinch can't bite that hard Ask my sugar for fifty cents, she said "Lemon, ain't a child in the yard" Mama, that's all right, mama that's all right for you Mama, that's all right, mama that's all right for you Mama, that's all right, most seen all you do Mmm, mmm, what's the matter now? Mmm, mmm, honey what's the matter now? Sugar, what's the matter, don't like no black snake no how Mmm, mmm, wonder where my black snake gone? Mmm, mmm, wonder where this black snake gone? Black snake mama done run my darlin' home __________ Note: Jefferson's first single for Paramount was also his most successful recording. An excellent example of how Blind Lemon used overtly suggestive sexual imagery without becoming salacious; Note 1: Chinch bug, defined in different terms as a type of bed bug and as another insect which is destructive to types of lawn grass; Note 2: lyric is garbled, "Most seen all you do" is a best guess. Online source: http://www.harptab.com/lyrics/ly2719.shtml |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: GUEST,Bob Coltman Date: 13 Jul 06 - 09:31 PM "We Need More Rattlesnakes." Was that Wayne Raney? Can't remember. By the way, "Fattening Frogs" goes away back to the Mobile Strugglers in the 1940s. I recorded it too, in 1971. Bob |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 13 Jul 06 - 09:32 PM Thanks for the info, Bob.. Jerry |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Azizi Date: 13 Jul 06 - 09:33 PM Here's another children's rhyme that includes the "There's A Place On Mars" verses: Coca Cola (clap clap clap) went to town (clap clap clap) Hi-C (clap clap clap) knocked him down (clap clap clap) 7up (clap clap clap) picked him up (clap clap clap) Dr. Pepper (clap clap clap) gave him (clap clap clap) sleeping pills (clap clap clap) jelly rolls (clap clap clap) Theres a place on Mars where the ladies smoke cigars every puff they take is enough to kill a snake when the snake is dead you put diamonds in his head when the diamonds break it's enough to bake a cake when the cake is done it is 1991 when you tie your shoe it is 1992 when you get stung by a bee it is 1993 when you slam a door it is 1994 when you dance the jive it is 1995 when you pick up sticks it is 1996 when you like a boy named devon it is 1997 when you close the gate it is 1998 when you're feelin' fine it is 1999 then it gets all cold then you FREEZE! http://blog.oftheoctopuses.com/000518.php posted by Miranda at August 19, 2004 |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Elmer Fudd Date: 13 Jul 06 - 10:44 PM There was a rock and roll song from the late fifties or early sixties with the chorus: Let me in, oh tender woman, Let me in for heaven's sake! Let me in, oh tender woman, Sssssighed the snake. The last verse, after the woman takes in the snake and feeds and cuddles him and he turns around and bites her: "Shut up silly woman," Said the snake with an evil grin. "You knew darn well I was a snake Before you let me in." |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: dick greenhaus Date: 13 Jul 06 - 10:50 PM And there's always "Charlotte the Harlot" |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: GUEST,Joe_F Date: 13 Jul 06 - 11:23 PM How happy I am when I crawl into bed And a rattlesnake rattles his tail at my head. -- The Old Settler's Song --- Joe Fineman joe_f@verizon.net ||: Art, being bartender, is never drunk, And magic that believes itself must die. :|| |
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Subject: Lyr Add: THE SNAKE (Oscar Brown, Jr.) From: Alba Date: 13 Jul 06 - 11:24 PM Ah Yes Dick. A Good Un for sure. Great Song too Elmer. I think it was written by a Man called Al Wilson but I could be wrong so don't qoute me..:) I love the Song. The Snake is a man for sure in this one The Snake On her way to work one morning, down the path alongside the lake A tender-hearted woman saw a poor, half-frozen snake Its pretty coloured skin had been all frosted up with dew 'Oh wow' she cried 'I'll take you in and I'll take care of you' Take me in, oh tender woman Take me in, for heaven's sake Take me in tender woman, yeah, 'Cos I'm the snake She wrapped him up all cosy in a ??? of silk And she laid him by the fire-side with some honey and some milk She hurried home from work that night and as soon as she arrived She found that pretty snake she'd taken in had been revived Take me in, oh tender woman Take me in, for heaven's sake Take me in tender woman, yeah, 'Cos I'm the snake She clutched him to her bosom, 'You're so beautiful!' she cried 'But if I had not a-taken you in, by now you would have died' She stroked his pretty skin again and kissed and held him tight But instead of giving her the thanks, he gave her a viscious bite Take me in, oh tender woman Take me in, for heaven's sake Take me in tender woman, yeah, 'Cos I'm the snake 'Oh snake, you' cried that woman 'you have bitten me, but why? You know your body's poisonous and now I'm gonna die' 'Ah, shut up silly woman' said that reptile with a grin 'You knew I was a snake before you ever took me in' Take me in, oh tender woman Take me in, for heaven's sake Take me in tender woman 'Cos I'm the snake I'm the snake. Oh no just what I needed. An earworm at Bedtime...!! Jude |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: katlaughing Date: 13 Jul 06 - 11:28 PM Ummm, Alba, would "earworm" be the diminutive of "earsnake?"**bg** |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Alba Date: 13 Jul 06 - 11:32 PM Indeed Kat it very well could be...LOL! |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Mo the caller Date: 14 Jul 06 - 06:07 AM That link thing never works for me, let's try again http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=92940&messages=66#1782984 thats cut happened when I did what it said - "cut" and "pasted" Now let's try "copy" and "paste" try again No still no luck. What am I doing wrong, I followed Sharon's instructions. On the link maker the Test this link had my link and it worked try again That's all I get if I copy and paste that bit! |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Mo the caller Date: 14 Jul 06 - 06:09 AM Aha, in the reply box it looks as if it hasn't worked, then when I posted it, it had. No wonder I'm confused. |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Alba Date: 14 Jul 06 - 06:14 AM OK. The Earworm won. I listened to the Song a minute ago to hear the word I had forgotten and here is the complete line:) "She wrapped him up all cosy in a curvature of silk" Now to find another piece of Music in an effort replace this earworm with another...**sigh** Happy Fry Day All! Jude |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: SharonA Date: 14 Jul 06 - 08:03 AM Mo says of blue clickies: " ...in the reply box it looks as if it hasn't worked, then when I posted it, it had." That's right! When you copy the HTML gobbledygook that the Link Maker makes (y'know, the line that starts with the "<" symbol and ends with the ">" symbol), and you paste it in the Reply box, it still looks like gobbledygook. If you want to check and make sure that you really put a link in your message, be sure to check the "Preview" box next to the "Submit Message" button BEFORE you click on the button! That way, you will see your message as it will appear on the thread, complete with link, AND you can click on the link that's IN THE PREVIEW to test it without losing your message! Once you've made sure that everything works, click on the "Submit Message" button without checking the "Preview" box first. Hope that made sense! Sharon |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: GUEST,Pete Peterson Date: 14 Jul 06 - 09:35 AM Does anybody besides me remember the late (and sorely missed) Jonathan Eberhart singing his own composition "Reptile Reel" ?? The refrain (apologies in advance for 15 years of Folk Process in my head) went: Reptiles, reptiles, got 'em by the score Rattlesnakes and garden snakes parading by my door Put a 'gator in your garter and cobra in your creel If you want to raise a ruckus with the Reptile Reel Before posting I searched DT (no hits) and Googled on Jonathan's name-- no luck. There wre some 3-4 verses each one more outrageous than the previous. Would love to reconstruct that one. . . |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Bob the Postman Date: 14 Jul 06 - 09:44 AM Alba, I think the missing word is actually "coverture" (a thing that covers) rather than "curvature" (the state of being curvey). |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Alba Date: 14 Jul 06 - 09:49 AM Thanks Bob. Now that sounds more like it and makes more sense! I have the Song on an old Tape I made Years ago and I did have that earworm in my ear while I was listening to it this morning..heehee Have a good Day Bob and Thanks again. Best Wishes, Jude |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Cool Beans Date: 14 Jul 06 - 09:56 AM The Beach Boys' "Serpent USA" |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Bill D Date: 14 Jul 06 - 10:00 AM ok...I heard this sung 35-40 years ago by a white guy who sang lot of black blues. He did it in a very driving blues-like style on 12 string guitar. I have not heard it before or since...It 'sounds' very composed and relatively modern, so someone ought to have heard it. Here are some pieces I can remember. "Adam and Eve was in the garden; Everything was jake. When a creature did come up sayin' "MY...name...is...Snake!" ....then there are some lines about the apple, etc. then a refrain: "Go ahead and bite it...bet you'd be delighted" "Go ahead and taste it...you don't wanta waste it!" never mind...I refined my search terms in Google, and found this: Forbidden Fruits (Nina Simone) ...so, I see it WAS composed....but the version I heard sung was way funkier and 'heavier' than the somewhat genteel version on that link. ok...*grin* (following more links)....more like THIS with sound file in Real Audio.... This has a more of the feel of what I remember, but it is clear that the guy had adapted it heavily for 12 string. |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Bill D Date: 14 Jul 06 - 10:06 AM so...we come full circle.....I read thru the thread not realizing what we had started with was the song I remembered... |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: GUEST,Greycap Date: 14 Jul 06 - 11:10 AM 'The Little Girl & The Dreadful Snake' - recorded by Bill Monroe & the Bluegrass Boys, also performed by the New Lost City Ramblers. Lyrics on request. |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Mrrzy Date: 14 Jul 06 - 11:16 AM Request! |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Tannywheeler Date: 14 Jul 06 - 02:39 PM In one of Mrrzy's posts of Jun 12 she quotes a poem about Texas which mentions snakes. The Scottish singer, Ed Miller (who bases himself in Austin, Texas), does this poem, which has been set to music. Don't know if he set it, or someone else. He says sometimes in performance, but I haven't tucked that tidbit away. It's a good tune, sprightly & fun to listen to. Tw |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Elmer Fudd Date: 14 Jul 06 - 02:50 PM Alba, here are the lyrics to "The Snake Song," by Al Wilson. You were right about the "curvature of silk" and I was right about the last line, "sighed the snake." As I remember it, he sang it with a fiendish hiss: "SSsssssssighed the sssssnake." Elmer The Snake Song |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Alba Date: 14 Jul 06 - 03:19 PM Thanks a lot Elmer. We were both right...Thanks for giving me an earworm! I hope I can do the same for you sometime **smile** There is another Thread about a very similiar subject already on the go so things are getting a bit....well, confusing. Someone has posted a version of "The Snake" on that thread, seen here: Clickity click! with slightly different lyrics but basically the same Song only now there would seem to be conflicting info as to who wrote it! sigh Nothing like getting a good old Jumble up going eh! Thank again, my Best to You Elmer, Jude |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Azizi Date: 14 Jul 06 - 08:46 PM Is anyone here of Latvian descent or knows the cultural significance of bees or snakes in the context of this Latvian folk song? Latvian Folk Songs about Snakes A black snake slithered Into my bee garden; That wasn't just a big black snake That was the Mother of the Bees. http://www.angelfire.com/al2/LatvianStuff/Songssnakes.html |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Azizi Date: 14 Jul 06 - 08:59 PM Here's a Zulu {South Africa} children's chant that mentions the snake among other creatures: Walking Through Africa Walking through Africa, what do I see? I can see inyoka looking at me. Walking through Africa, what do I see? I can see ufudu looking at me. Walking through Africa, what do I see? I can see indlovu looking at me. Walking through Africa, what do I see? I can see ikhozi looking at me. note: This is a Zulu chant the children "sing" while they stalk about. The translation would probably be closer to "walking through the bush...," but my children love to say Africa. I've translated all the words but the animals. These are as follows: inyoka (een-yoh'-gkah) a snake ufudu (oo-foo'-doo) a tortoise, /oo/ as in fool indlovu (een-dloh'-voo) an elephant ikhozi (ee-koh'zee) an eagle CanTeach: African Songs, Chants, and Games |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Elmer Fudd Date: 14 Jul 06 - 09:00 PM Hey Jude, We're all just tiny, imperfect links in an essentially oral song tradition! Elmer |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Azizi Date: 14 Jul 06 - 09:04 PM And just for fun, here's a parody of "Pina Colada" that is called Vicious Snake (The Pit Viper Song)" Enjoy! |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: pdq Date: 14 Jul 06 - 09:07 PM Woody Guthrie did one with (very roughly) "a rattle come a rake, a rattle come a snake". Not sure about title or anything else about it. Grampa Jones' "Old Rattler" is about a dog. Bill Clifton's "Jumpin' Old Rattler" is about a train. |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Alba Date: 14 Jul 06 - 09:13 PM Ain't that a Truth Elmer...!! Jude:) |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Azizi Date: 18 Jul 06 - 06:55 AM See the lyrics to this Bo Diddley song and my guesses about what the lyrics may mean: Lyrics to "Who Do You Love" Azizi: Guesses about the meaning of lyrics in "Who Do You Love" |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Charley Noble Date: 18 Jul 06 - 09:37 AM I always end up making the last post on threads like these but here's a couple of comments. First I was interested in the field song "Johnny Boker" that Azizi had noted, which is a clear precursor to the traditional sea shanty "Johnny Boker" having a similar chorus and tune. Second, no one, I believe, has mentioned "Fod," a possible variant of "Springfield Mountain": 1. As I went down to the mowin' field, Hu-rye, tu-rye, fod-a-link-a-dye-do As I went down to the mowin' field, Fod! Well, as I went down to the mowin' field, A big black snake took me by the heel, Tu-rolly-day. 2. I fell down upon the ground, (3 times) I closed my eyes and I looked all around. 3. I climbed upon a stump to take my rest, (3) And I looked like a woodchuck a-sitting on a nest. 4. I set down to sing this song (3) 'Long came a raccoon with his britches on. 5. The woodchuck grinned a banjo song (3) And along came a skunk with his britches on. 6. Well, the woodchuck and skunk got into a fight, (3) And the fumes so high they put out the light. As sung by Frank Warner on OUR SINGING HERITAGE, Vol. III, © 1958 Collected and recorded by Charles L. Todd and Robert Sonkin from Henry King in Visalia, California for the Library of Congress in 1941. My mother composed a poem some time in the early 1960's about a pet snake: PET SNAKE If I had a pet snake one hundred feet long and he died, I would dig a trench one hundred feet long but not very wide To bury him in. Unless I could coil him up like a length of rope But I couldn't do that if rigor mortis set in. So, unless I chopped him all up in short pieces (And I'd hate to do that) I'd have to dig a long trench And bury him in a long grave One hundred feet long. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: Lyr Add: LARUE THE SNAKE From: Seamus Kennedy Date: 18 Jul 06 - 04:34 PM From my kids' CD. LARUE THE SNAKE (The Slither Song) George Wurzbach There once was a snake named Larue, The only way he knew to get here and there Was slither, slither, All Larue knew how to do was slither. One day Larue saw a bird, He wondered just how in the world Is it birds can go flying, flying, He slithers below while they go about flying. And Larue told the bird: "You must truly be God's favorite creature. To be able to fly up so high where no one can reach you. And the snake in the grass is surely the lowliest creature. And I mustn't matter, 'cause I only slither, slither. Look how you fly while I only slither. The bird took Larue in his claws, And gently he lifted and soared through the sky, They were flying, flying, Before Larue knew it, the bird had him flying. And the bird told Larue, " You were there on the Ark with Noah; If God had thought less of you, you'd have been left on the shore. And here in the Kingdom there is no higher or lower, Though I'm able to fly it's just my way to slither, slither, And I slith when I fly, and you fly when you slither." Larue thanked the bird for the flight, Said "Goodnight," and turned with delight As he started to slither, slither, And Larue seemed to fly through the grass as he slithered. |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Big Al Whittle Date: 18 Jul 06 - 09:30 PM I mentioned Fod about twenty posts back. great seeing the words though Charly Noble, thankyou for posting them. I remember seeing in the encylcopadia of folk music a letter from Peggy Seeger when she was a little girl requesting Earl Scruggs to play Fod as a request on the radio. |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: mindblaster Date: 19 Jul 06 - 04:48 AM I like to watch the baker as he bakes Keeps mind off the snakes My mum said I've got what it takes To keep my mind off the snakes Go up north - see the lakes Keeps your mind off the snakes Buy Van Gough beware of fakes Keep an eye out for the snakes Drive a car, test the brakes Keep an eye out for the snakes Computer vision must take breaks So you can watch out for the snakes Getting old how my back aches Keeps my mind off the snakes Eat cream buns and lots of cakes Keeps my mind off the snakes Kill vampires with sharpened stakes Keep your eye out for the snakes Too much drink, I've got the shakes All I see is crawling snakes! |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Kenneth Ingham Date: 19 Jul 06 - 04:51 AM I've heard that song before somewhere - who was it Captain Beefheart? |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: GUEST,Hoodlum Date: 19 Jul 06 - 04:52 AM I've got it by Trini Lopez |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Sliding Down The Bannister At My Auntie's House Date: 19 Jul 06 - 04:54 AM Trini Lopez? You gotta be joking. It was definitely done by beefheart but I think mindblaster has got some of the lyrics wrong. |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: cockney Date: 19 Jul 06 - 04:58 AM He missed out: See the snow - count the flakes Keeps my mind off the snakes Women cause me cold heartaches Keep my eye out for the snakes |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Kenneth Ingham Date: 19 Jul 06 - 05:00 AM It's on the bootleg "Don At The Palace" |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Genie Date: 19 Jul 06 - 01:57 PM I guess we have come full circle, Bill D. Of course, that's easy for a snake. ;) This Johnny Rivers site lists "The Snake" as being by Oscar Brown, Jr., but I don't know if they meant to say he wrote it. Or, if they did, that they are correct. http://www.johnnyriversfanclub.com/lyrics/snake.htm They have that pesky word as "comforter," instead of "coverture." "... She wrapped him up all cozy in a comforter of silk and then laid him by the fireside with some honey and some milk. ... " There's another song I remember, sung by Harry Belafonte, called "Man Smart, Woman Smarter," which has a verse about Adam and Eve in the Garden Of Eden. "... Garden of Eden was very nice, Adam never work in Paradise. Eve meet snake, Paradise gone - She make Adam work from that day on. ..." Harry Belafonte lyrics: Man Smart (Woman Smarter) |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: GUEST Date: 19 Jul 06 - 04:36 PM Regarding the genie/neighbor/boy/etc with the ten-foot weenie who showed it to the lady/neighbor/etc next door, I have always assumed that it was American, since it seems to be a parody of "Jeanie With the Light Brown Hair" by Stephen Foster. Regarding the question about the "Mother of Bees" and snakes? A possible interpretation: The Biblical devil Beelzebub is the "Lord of Flies" (bees?). The name evidently is a (deliberate???) mis-translation or mis-pronunciation of the contemporary god Baal-Zebul (roughly "High God of Zebul" [a place]. Very much off the top of my head here. I have no backup for either idea. BB, NightWing |
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Subject: Lyr Add: BIG JIM From: Bill D Date: 19 Jul 06 - 05:33 PM here's a close one....and it 'refers' to snakes.. *grin* A famous Scottish Angling Club Arranged to hold a match (With) five pounds offered as the prize To him with the biggest catch. Len Riley said, "For catching fish, Good bait is what you need," And so he set to work at once Big worms to try to breed. CHORUS: Big Jim was a worm, was a great big worm, Was a great big, bright red, bloody red worm, Large and fat, just like a picture, Crossed with an eel and a boa constrictor. Fed him on whiskey, made him feel frisky, Pies and a pint or two. Big Jim was a worm, was a great big worm, Was a great big, beautiful, bloody red worm. He fed his pets on powdered milk, Baby food and whiskey, And as the great day grew near, They grew fat and frisky. His favorite pet he called Big Jim. He really was a picture. He looked just like a conger eel You'd crossed with a boa constrictor. The day arrived, the places drawn, And so the fishing started. It was a sin to puncture Jim And Lee was broken hearted; But that five pound note it must be won, He'd promised to his daughter, And so the dirty deed was done, And Jim thrown in the water. Some caught perch; some caught bream; Some caught rainbow trout; Some caught eels; one caught seals; Most of them caught nowt; But Len he waited patiently To get a chance to work, When all at once his float did sink And gave his rod a jerk. Well, that fight went on for hours and hours. Len couldn't quench his thirst, But Big Jim being the worm he was, That fish surrendered first. At once the judge came running up And with him brought his scales. He saw the fish, said, "Throw it back. We're not accepting whales!" |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: coldjam Date: 19 Jul 06 - 07:36 PM Jim Staffords's "I don't like Spiders and Snakes" leapt immediately to mind. "This frog's for you" is one of the best pick up lines ever! I remember when Mary Lou said "You wanna walk me home from school" And I said, "Yes, I do" She said, "I don't have to go right home And I'm the kind that likes to be alone As long as you would" I said, "Me, too" And so we took a stroll Wound up down by the swimmin' hole And she said, "Do what you want to do" I got silly and I found a frog In the water by a hollow log And I shook it at her And I said "This frog's for you" She said, "I don't like spiders and snakes And that ain't what it takes to love me You fool, you fool I don't like spiders and snakes And that ain't what it takes to love me Like I want to be loved by you" Well, I think of that girl from time to time I call her up when I got a dime I say, "Hello, baby" She says, "Ain't you cool" I say, "Do you remember when "And would you like to get together again" She says, "I'll see you after school" I was shy and so for a while Most of my love was touch and smile Til she said, "Come on over here" I was nervous as you might guess Still looking for somethin' to slip down her dress And she said, "Let's make it perfectly clear" She said, "I don't like spiders and snakes And that ain't what it takes to love me You fool, you fool I don't like spiders and snakes And that ain't what it takes to love me Like I want to be loved by you |
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Subject: Lyr Add: CAPTAIN BEAKY From: Nigel Parsons Date: 20 Jul 06 - 04:49 AM Captain Beaky The bravest animals in the land are Captain Beaky and his band That's Timid Toad, Reckless Rat, Artful Owl and Batty Bat They march through the woodlands singing songs That tell how they have righted wrongs Once Hissing Sid, an evil snake, kept the woodland folk awake In fear and trembling every night In case he gave someone a bite Said Artful Owl, 'We'll lie in wait And one of us will be the bait." Said Captain Beaky, "Have no fear! For I alone will volunteer!" "No, make it me!" Said Reckless Rat I'll stand there in my reckless hat When Hissing Sid picks up my trail, I'll just lasso him with my tail!" "Oh, good idea" said Timid Toad, "We'll hide a long way down the road. And when you've overcome resistance, We'll rush along to your assistance." Said Batty Bat, "I've got a wheeze! I'll fly and hide up in the trees! If Hissing Sid should slither by I'll drop a boulder from the sky!" Said Artful Owl, "The idea sound…how will you lift it off the ground?" Poor Batty Bat just scratched his head, "I hadn't thought of that," he said. Said Owl, "The rest of us hold back. There's only one that he'll attack." Said Timid Toad, "I like your plan." "Good luck," said Owl, "For you're the man!" So Timid Toad, his eyes a-popping, Into the woodland night went hopping Captain Beaky waved his hand, followed by his trusty band That's Artful Owl and Reckless Rat, and above the trees flew Batty Bat. "Stop!" Said Beaky, "I hear squeaking!" "It's Batty Bat" said Owl, "He's speaking!" "It's all in code," said Reckless Rat Said Owl, "I'll just decipher that." "A dash, a dot, two short, two long… I rather think we've got it wrong. It reads 'can clearly see the road, Hissing Sid has captured Toad!'" "Quick men!" said Beaky, "No delay! "You mustn't let him get away!" And leaping off, said "Follow me!" And ran head first into a tree. "Dot dot dot" squeaked Batty Bat. Said Beaky, "Quick! Decipher that!" Said Reckless Rat, "Perhaps we're gaining?" "No," said Owl. "He says…it's raining" Oh, how they ran to save poor Toad, For they must find that snake's abode Guided by old Batty Bat Dot dot go this way dash, go that! Then Hissing Sid's lair they spied Were they too late? Was he inside? Said Reckless Rat, "I'll get a pole And stop him going down his hole!" Then into sight the snake came hopping, Right past his hole, no sign of stopping Said Reckless Rat, "That's rather funny, "There's something jumping in his tummy." Said Captain Beaky, "Well I'm blowed! Hissing Sid has swallowed Toad!" And as the snake hopped out of sight, Off they chased into the night. At last they found him, tired and dizzy And pulled out Toad, who said "Where is he? For left alone, I felt quite sick, And hopped into a hollow stick Said Owl, "A clever step to take! You jumped into that slippery snake." "That was brave of Toad", said Rat "That's just my sort of plan!" said Bat Said Captain Beaky to his men, "Well we'll not see Hissing Sid again!" And as they marched off down the road, They sang in praise of Timid Toad Above them flew ol' Batty Bat, With his wings stretched out, like that Owl's idea, the clever fella To have a flying um-ber-ella |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: GUEST,Jack Campin Date: 20 Jul 06 - 05:49 AM There ought to be a song in this... Python eats electric blanket |
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Subject: Python eats electric blanket From: Genie Date: 20 Jul 06 - 12:04 PM Do I hear a new Song Challenge there? Just post it as a new thread and I'm sure a host o' parodists (par-adders) will come a-slitherin'. Genie |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Alba Date: 20 Jul 06 - 12:10 PM Oh yes Genie. A Parody Thread about Reptiles would be cool. It could well end up as one for the Hissssss...story Books...!!! sorry..:) Jude |
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Subject: Lyr Req: BLACK SNAKE SHAKIES From: Azizi Date: 06 Sep 06 - 09:11 PM I found this song thanks to the Guest who posted information about this website http://www.erikdarling.com/child_cd.html on the Mudcat RE: Hill and Gully Riders - is there such a song? thread: BLACK SNAKE SHAKIES Chorus: Black snake shakies, Loose-tail dogs, Alligators gatin', They's messin' with the frogs. The owl is on the rooftop, Quiet as the dark-- Take it easy, Mama, When the bulldogs bark. Bobby was a preacher, He thought he got it right, But what he told his people Got 'em way up tight. They couldn't love their neighbors, And they couldn't love their lives, They couldn't love their children And they couldn't love their wives. Give it all you got, Even raise it to the sky, You could get to heaven, love, Before you die; God is in the pulpit, Sending down the light, Whisperin' to everyone, To help 'em get it right. |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: GUEST Date: 06 Sep 06 - 10:17 PM The snake baked a hoecake and set the frog to watch it. The frog fell a-dozing, and the lizard came and took it, "Bring back my hoecake, you long tailed nanny-o" from "The Fireside Song Book of Birds and Beasts" 1972 |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: GUEST,oldhippie Date: 06 Sep 06 - 10:30 PM Already been done before..... http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2006/08/09/list-of-the-day-snake-songs/ |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Azizi Date: 06 Sep 06 - 10:45 PM Guestoldhippie, here's your hyperlink: http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2006/08/09/list-of-the-day-snake-songs/ -snip- And check out this excerpt from that RollingStone Magazine article: [list'...Any song that mentions snakes, uses a snake metaphor, or alludes to snakes is eligible — we're not limiting it to merely songs that include the word 'snake' or a snake-ish reference in the title. We'll show you ours if you show us yours. Lloyd Cole, "Rattlesnakes" Duran Duran, "Union Of The Snake" Aerosmith, "Rattlesnake Shake" REM, "The Sidewinder Sleeps Tonight" Paula Abdul, "Cold Hearted Snake" ELO, "Don't Bring Me Down" Pavement, "Serpentine Pad" The Doors, "The End" PJ Harvey, "Snake" Bow Wow Wow, "Where's My Snake" " -snip- So Guest, I'll repeat that last sentence from that excerpt I quoted: "We'll show you ours [our list]if you show us yours [your list]". That means that your statement that its' "Already been done before" is not totally true, wouldn't you say? The concept. Yes. The entries in the list. No. Surely an old hippie like yourself knows a snake song or two that you could share with us or maybe you added your examples to that RollingStone list. Whatever rocks your world... |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: GUEST Date: 06 Sep 06 - 10:47 PM Rattlesnake, Oh rattlesnake, what makes your teeth so white? I been laying in the sun sodarn long, You're lucky I don't bite, lucky I don't bite. verse from "Muskrat, Oh Muskrat" |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Azizi Date: 06 Sep 06 - 10:51 PM Is Guest- 06 Sep 06 - 10:47 PM the same person as GUEST,oldhippie - 06 Sep 06 - 10:30 PM? Thanks for posting that example, Guest, if you are or if you aren't an old hippie [or that particular old hippie]. :o) |
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Subject: Lyr Add: THE ORIGIN OF THE SNAKE (from Talley) From: GUEST Date: 06 Sep 06 - 11:07 PM THE ORIGIN OF THE SNAKE Up de hill an' down de level! Up de hill an' down de level! Granny's puppy treed de Devil. Puppy howl, an' Devil shake! Puppy howl, an' Devil shake! Devil leave, an' dere's yo'snake. Mash his head; de sun shine bright! Mash his head; de sun shine bright! Tail don't die ontel it's night. Night come on, an' sperits groan! Night come on, an' sperits groan! Devil come an' gits his own. from: Thomas W. Talley's Negro Folk Rhymes |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: GUEST Date: 06 Sep 06 - 11:09 PM I'm old but not too hip(pie) raredance |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Azizi Date: 06 Sep 06 - 11:13 PM Welcome, raredance! Thanks for the examples. {I'm assuming that raredance is your screen name. If so, it's a great name!} |
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Subject: Lyr Add: MAN GAVE NAMES TO ALL THE ANIMALS (Dylan) From: GUEST Date: 06 Sep 06 - 11:15 PM This song never names the snake, but he is definitely present MAN GAVE NAMES TO ALL THE ANIMALS - Bob Dylan First Release Slow Train Coming 1979 Man gave names to all the animals In the beginning, in the beginning. Man gave names to all the animals In the beginning, long time ago. He saw an animal that liked to growl, Big furry paws and he liked to howl, Great big furry back and furry hair. "Ah, think I'll call it a bear." Man gave names to all the animals In the beginning, in the beginning. Man gave names to all the animals In the beginning, long time ago. He saw an animal up on a hill Chewing up so much grass until she was filled. He saw milk comin' out but he didn't know how. "Ah, think I'll call it a cow." Man gave names to all the animals In the beginning, in the beginning. Man gave names to all the animals In the beginning, long time ago. He saw an animal that liked to snort, Horns on his head and they weren't too short. It looked like there wasn't nothin' that he couldn't pull. "Ah, think I'll call it a bull." Man gave names to all the animals In the beginning, in the beginning. Man gave names to all the animals In the beginning, long time ago. He saw an animal leavin' a muddy trail, Real dirty face and a curly tail. He wasn't too small and he wasn't too big. "Ah, think I'll call it a pig." Man gave names to all the animals In the beginning, in the beginning. Man gave names to all the animals In the beginning, long time ago. Next animal that he did meet Had wool on his back and hooves on his feet, Eating grass on a mountainside so steep. "Ah, think I'll call it a sheep." Man gave names to all the animals In the beginning, in the beginning. Man gave names to all the animals In the beginning, long time ago. He saw an animal as smooth as glass Slithering his way through the grass. Saw him disappear by a tree near a lake . . . Copyright © 1979 Special Rider Music |
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Subject: Lyr Add: COTTON MOUTH (Seals & Crofts) From: GUEST Date: 06 Sep 06 - 11:24 PM The Cottonmouth Water Moccasin (Agkistrodon piscivorus)isNorth America's only poisonous water snake. It is a pit viper like the rattlesnake - raredance COTTON MOUTH (lyrics by James Seals; music by James Seals & Dash Crofts, 1971) From the albums DOWN HOME (1970) and SEALS AND CROFTS I AND II (1974). Covered by the Doobie Brothers on 1972's Toulouse Streetlp. Red eyed mama keeps cryin'. Blue-eyed cat keeps a-lyin'. Catfish keeps his eye on the string. Cotton mouth keeps on windin'. Sing, sing, sing. Dark moon keep on hidin'.'Gator he keeps on slidin'. Bullfrog he ain't mindin'. Cotton mouth keeps on windin'. Sing, sing, sing. Lightnin' bugs in bottles, give me all the light I need. Seein' bait for linin'. Cotton mouth keep on windin'. Sing, sing, sing. Big iron pot's a-boilin'. Red-eyed mama's a-toilin'. Crawdad meat's for dinin'. Cotton mouth keep on windin.' Sing, sing, sing. |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Big Al Whittle Date: 07 Sep 06 - 01:54 AM the wind that snakes the barley snaking all over |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: muppett Date: 07 Sep 06 - 11:33 AM the Green & yeller song mentions snakes, you know the one with the chorus; 'Oh mother be quick I want to be sick and lay me down t' die' I'll let you have the full words tomorrow, as I've to dash for my train now. |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: KenBrock Date: 07 Sep 06 - 05:18 PM Donovan Leitch had a song circa 1971 called "Riki Tiki Tavi" saying that since the mongoose had gone away, you would have to kill your own snakes. |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Susan of DT Date: 07 Sep 06 - 05:44 PM All these posts and no one mentioned the kids' game Rattlesnake: a bunch of kids join hands and run around the room in a slithery line chanting: R-A-T, T-L-E, S-N-A-K-E spells rattlesnake (repeat as often as necessary) |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Mudlark Date: 07 Sep 06 - 06:31 PM Ray Wiley Hubbard"s "The Snake Farm" (not for kids!) Chorus: Snake farm......sounds kinda nasty Snake farm....pretty much is Snake farm....rep-tiles Snake farm...errrrrrgggghhh! |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: GUEST,KenBrock Date: 07 Sep 06 - 07:20 PM "Trust in Me (The Python Song)" by the Sherman Brothers from Dissney's Jungle Book (1968) |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: GUEST,oldhippie Date: 18 Sep 06 - 08:33 PM "Snakes" - Susan McKeown |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: RobbieWilson Date: 19 Sep 06 - 06:39 AM Fleetwood Mac did Rattlesnake shake, but I don't really think it's about a snake: "I know this guy, his name is Mick, he don't care when he ain't got no chick he do the shake, the rattlesnake shake" Then there's the famous lampton wo'm, I dont think that's really a worm |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: GUEST,Beeds Date: 11 Oct 08 - 04:19 PM Azizi writes, way up about halfway down the thread, in Black Snake Moan that 'most seen all you do', is a best guess. I've always heard it as 'mos' any ol' way you do'. |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: Azizi Date: 12 Oct 08 - 12:47 PM Beeds, you're referring to my post written 13 Jul 06 - 09:21 PM {which seems like a thousand years ago, btw, given how much has happened in the world}. And though I wrote that post, I didn't make that guess about the words that Blind Lemon Jefferson was singing in that recording. That transcription was found on the website whose link I posted. Fwiw, your idea about what was sung makes more sense to me than those words that were provided by whoever transcribed that song on that website. Thanks for sharing your idea about that song's lyrics. Best wishes, Azizi |
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Subject: RE: Songs & Rhymes That Mention Snakes From: GUEST Date: 04 Mar 10 - 09:19 AM Looking for any mention of this game, and came across this! Now I know I'm not just imaganing that I played this game as a child! Thanks! |
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