BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 02:28 PM

100 :-D

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 12:26 PM

Well, Dave, I don't think I would be in favour of closing it, and I'll tell you why. It's side-splittingly funny to see someone, especially a "Yank" of all people (considering the incredible way his country screws around with the rest of the world), having the bad taste and gall to talk in such an ignorant fashion about some other nation of people. Why prevent him from continuing? Give him more rope, I say, and watch him dangle from it.

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 11:08 AM

OK - So judging from the lack of response I would guess 282 has lost interest. Shame realy - Some interesting insights into the 'stooges' and their origins. Could have been re-clessified to go upstairs as folklore if that was developed a bit more.

However, seeing as there has been some very obvious trolling by 282, as in

I was amusing myself watching you go ballistic at the most childish insults I could muster up. The more childish they were, the worse you reacted. That's the price you pay for having no sense of humor.

and

I never encouraged anyone to visit more folk clubs since I don't visit them myself. I'm not a folkie, mate. Wouldn't know anything about it. I go for 50s music--jump blues, rockabilly, doowop. I also like ragtime and early jass. Don't know of any folk artists.

This guy isn't realy Martin Gibson is he? ;-)

In addition there are such remarks as -

Notice how it's always dumb fucking Limeys who can't read anything over 5 sentences. And they wonder why they've taken Canada's place as America's bitch these days. No offense meant there.

At least Monty Python had a sense of humor which is more than can be said for most of you ignorant limeys. Maybe if you spoke English like real men instead prissy little gay boys you wouldn't feel so inferior. No offense.

But American humor still achieved something you nation of ale-swilling prissy-talking cross-dressers could never hope to achieve even if your empire hadn't crumbled into dust because we kicked your ass in the 18th century

Well, you're British, what else needs be said.

But that's in some Limey part of the world and no one cares about that part. That's why your PM had to attach himself like a leech to George Bush in order to vicariously experience what it's like to lose an empire. At least we have one to lose.

While I'm doing that, why don't you grow up, you biscuit-eating tea-sucking pale imitator of American superiority?

If being British bothers that much, change countries. Until, fuck off, you limey jug-eared, no-chinned stomach-eater.

Surely this level of invective can be seen as nothing but racism which is not allowed on this site is it? Isn't it about time this thread was considered for closure by the editing team?

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 04:25 AM

Why do you think I am serious? Why do you think you are the only one who can deliver insults in a humourous way? Delusional I reckon. Get help man.

:D (tG)

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 02:15 AM

I'm sorry, but The Fooles Troupe has no current vacancies - something about too many applicants...

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 30 Jul 06 - 10:40 PM

Boy, it's really an awful spectacle when people try to "outcool" each other like this. Sad. I'm glad I ain't human.

- Chongo

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: 282RA
Date: 30 Jul 06 - 08:29 PM

Exactly. I was being an obvious dickhead. Exactly, exactly, exactly. So why were you getting so upset? I wasn't serious, why are you? Dummy.

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 30 Jul 06 - 03:44 PM

282RA

Everyone bar none can see what you are doing. Why credit yourself with anything other than being an obvious dickhead? You deserve an insult far less than you think you do.

:D (tG)

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: 282RA
Date: 30 Jul 06 - 01:22 PM

Hoo-boy.

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: *daylia*
Date: 30 Jul 06 - 11:52 AM

282RA, in some circles there's a term for people who behave like you. They're called 'energy vampires', or 'energy sucks' - people who will do or say just about anything to get the attention they crave. And so they waste/slurp up other people's time, energy and attention as much as they possibly can.

The only way I know of to protect oneself from such pests is to ignore/stay as far away from them as possible. THerefore, your "get off the thread if it bothers you" is right on the mark. So, congrats!

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: 282RA
Date: 30 Jul 06 - 11:24 AM

It was the fact that you couldn't see that I was fucking with you for no reason than to fuck with you that started to get on my nerves. Just get off the thread if it bothers you. I'm not here to make you feel better about yourself. If being British bothers that much, change countries. Until, fuck off, you limey jug-eared, no-chinned stomach-eater.

Oh, wait, that's the Scottish. I think I hear them coming now.

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: *daylia*
Date: 30 Jul 06 - 11:22 AM

Hey 2, is your real name Maple Syrup?

(Seems to fit you so well, you sap!)

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 30 Jul 06 - 11:11 AM

Ditto, 282, ditto;-) Did you ever figure mine out though? You should know them if you are really a fan. Do you not find it ironic that when you insult someone it is humour but when someone insults you they don't have any? Ah well. Just the way of the world I guess.

Was the post where you got all serious about me getting off the thread tongue in cheek as well? Had me hook, line and sinker if it was. Well done:-D

Your mother was a hampster and your father smells of elderberries.

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 30 Jul 06 - 11:09 AM

I was amusing myself watching you go ballistic at the most childish insults I could muster up. The more childish they were, the worse you reacted

The language differences must be greater than I thought then. It seemed to me that most Brits were only playing games with you and that you were in danger of going into spontanious cobustion.

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: *daylia*
Date: 30 Jul 06 - 11:03 AM

Humour can be rather like a tumour, 282RA. Some forms are harmlessly benign; others are fatally malignant.

Shall we conduct a biopsy, then?

;-)

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: 282RA
Date: 30 Jul 06 - 10:56 AM

All my insults were not meant to be taken seriously, you dumbshits. I don't have anything against Britain or the British, I was amusing myself watching you go ballistic at the most childish insults I could muster up. The more childish they were, the worse you reacted. That's the price you pay for having no sense of humor.

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: *daylia*
Date: 30 Jul 06 - 09:59 AM

comparing the Bible and other sacred texts with the Stooges is rather like comparing Mozart with tic tac toe. But if doing so helps you to enjoy your life more; if ridiculing and attacking other people helps you to feel better about yourself, 282RA, then I'm glad you've found a relatively harmless venue for all that venom here on Mudcat.

Better that than have you relieve yourself all over innocent bystanders, family members, neighbours, co-workers etc etc etc.

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 30 Jul 06 - 07:17 AM

See? A dozen posts in a row. All civilised. All sensible. Not a poorly worded insult in sight. It can be done with absolutely no need to resort to At least Monty Python had a sense of humor which is more than can be said for most of you ignorant limeys. Maybe if you spoke English like real men instead prissy little gay boys you wouldn't feel so inferior

No raising of blood pressure. No-one getiing back at you. All good stuff which even the most ardent critic of the stooges cannot disagree with. I knew it was in there somewhere:-) Thanks 282RA - The virtual pint is yours and waiting at the bar.

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: 282RA
Date: 29 Jul 06 - 03:14 PM

>>Your linking of the Stooges with the Punch and Judy shows and the vaudeville tradition is well thought out.<<

The Stooges WERE vaudevillians long before landing a contract with Columbia Pictures. When I say Shemp was the original 3rd stooge, it was their vaudeville days I refer to. It was originally just Moe and aguy named Ted Healy. Then they found Larry performing in another vaudeville act and hired him away from them. Then Healy and Moe decided a 3rd stooge was required and Moe got his brother Shemp to join up and for years they toured the vaudeville circuit and Ted Healy & His Three Stooges.

Healy, however, was a drunk and the stooges got tired of it. Shemp got so sick of it, he decided to leave first. He didn't want to screw over his partners so he told Moe that the youngest brother, Jerome, whom they called "Babe" (also Shemp's wife's name coincidentally) could fill in. Moe was dead against it since Babe had no show biz experience. Shemp twisted Moe's arm and Moe relented and Babe became Curly. Because he forgot lines quite frequently, Curly developed an arsenal of sight and sound gags to employ to cover up his lapses and these went over so hugely that the stooges worked them into the act.

When Curly left the Stooges in '52 due to health problems, Shemp was able to take over so well because he had long ago worked out his routine as 3rd stooge. The studio at first tried to make him imitate Curly but it wasn't working and when the public felt that Shemp's own antics were hilarious on their own, the studio got off his back and let him do what he wanted.

AS for the Stooge-Hitler connection, it is not known if Hitler had ever seen them. It is noteworthy that Moe did his Hitler routines while Hitler was still in power. Hitler may have seen them or heard of them. His antisemitism, however, was ingrained long before and it actually had a very long tradition in Europe. Yellow Stars of David, for example, came from the medieval French (in fact, French Jews also had to wear a horned cap in public in addition to the star).

Still, you have to wonder if Hitler ever saw Moe's routine. I'd hate to be one of his generals having to watch a private screening with him because I'd laugh so hard, he'd have had me executed for treason. As soon as Moe said, "Gimme back my personality!" I would have totally lost it.

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: GUEST,Ms Penelope Rutledge
Date: 29 Jul 06 - 01:39 PM

That is a very perceptive analysis on your part, 282RA. Your linking of the Stooges with the Punch and Judy shows and the vaudeville tradition is well thought out. As you say, that kind of humour is deliberately intended to be as lowbrow and stupid as possible to appeal to very young children...so criticizing it for so being is really quite redundant. I therefore withdraw my criticism.

It's a matter of taste as to whether one would enjoy watching it or not, and I suppose it would depend on the occasion. There are times when lowbrow fits the bill.

Consider this: You point out that the Stooges were Jewish, which is well known, of course, and they would have been considered representative of the most low class, migratory vagrants and labouring class sterotypes of the time. Well, seeing the first Stooge films in the early 30's may have been what drove Adolf Hitler's already gross prejudice against the Jews over the edge into genocidal madness! Thus the Stooges could inadvertently have been the factor that tipped the balance and sent the world into its greatest conflict and resulted in the slaughter of many millions. A sobering thought, isn't it?

That was, I might add, the conflict in which we, the British, stopped the Germans in the Western Desert and the Battle of Britain and saved all you Yanks...because if it wasn't for us, you'd all be speaking German! (tee hee!)

*PR

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: 282RA
Date: 29 Jul 06 - 09:44 AM

>>Mel Gibson, a definite fan, apparently did a show on their historical and cultural origins - it must have been a made for TV thing -we haven't seen it out here in Oz yet, anybody got any pointers?<<

Yeah, I'm watching them on Spike TV right now. Their cultural origins I think would be the infantile low brow Punch & Judy that has been around in Europe at least since medieval times. Now Jews had quite a hand in Europe at that time and no doubt many itinerant comedy troupes swinging through village and town from England to Italy were likely Jewish or Gypsy or a mix (they frequently traveled together in caravans since both were more or less outcasts of European society).

We know the Stooges were Jewish and that their parents had emigrated to the States. Their real name was Horowitz (Larry's was Feinberg) and Shamp got his name because his mother's thick Yiddish accent caused her to pronounce "Sams" as Shemp.

Being that Jews were outcasts performing for whoever would hire them, we can figure they had some wealthy patrons pay them to entertain the kids. So we often see the Stooges dressing as bratty kids or shady vagrants looking for a quick meal with as little work as possible, wreaking havoc on high society and mocking accepted social mores. This would have resonated as much among the American masses as European--especially during the Depression when many Stooge shorts were made.

The Punch & Judy is deliberately infantile and low brow because it is specifically geared to children. Curly is the quintessential man-child designed to appeal to the immature humor of young tots. The plots, however, were often adult-oriented which enabled adults to enjoy the Stooges perhaps as much if not more than kids. A kind of social release, a dropping of respectable pretensions, allowing us to be kids again for a brief time. This was, in fact, the identical purpose of the old blackface minstrels.

The adult criticism of the Stooges as being "stupid" or "insulting to my intelligence" is pretty much stating the obvious. It's like criticizing ice cream for being cold.

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 29 Jul 06 - 05:15 AM

Errrr, I am allowed back on the thread now then? ;-)

Like Penelope said, and like I kept saying before, there are some grand bits of humour in your posts, 282. Keep them up and we may yet make you a honourary cross-dressing, tea-swilling, biscuit-munching Brit:-)

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: GUEST,Ms Penelope Rutledge
Date: 29 Jul 06 - 01:52 AM

I'm beginning to think there's hope for you after all, 282RA. If it's any comfort to you, I agree wholeheartedly with your opinion of both George Bush and Tony Blair and their political..."relationship", even if I find your language on the matter a bit tasteless.

Oh, and your assessment of Americans is spot on.

I think they make a very sorry successor to the British Empire, all things considered.

* PR

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 28 Jul 06 - 11:07 PM

Been collecting DVDs of old cartoons, on one of them were a couple of '3 Stooges' from about the 1960s - animated toons sandwiched between live action of 3 elderly guys trying their best to still earn a living.

Don't mind their madness occassionally -if I view it in the light of the old Commedia del Arte School. Interesting to compare them with the Marx Bros...

Mel Gibson, a definite fan, apparently did a show on their historical and cultural origins - it must have been a made for TV thing -we haven't seen it out here in Oz yet, anybody got any pointers?

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: 282RA
Date: 28 Jul 06 - 08:32 PM

>>Can you do pratfalls and make sounds like "woo woo woo"? I wager you can.<<

If I do say so myself (and I do), I do a superb Curly.

>>After all, you are a prat, and that's really all that's required, isn't it?<<

I reckon.

>>What a shame that upon Curly's untimely (or was it timely?) demise, you could not have taken over his role, 282RA. That would have been a sight to see. I would speculate that you could have lowered the humour on the show by at least a notch or two, and have become a legend in the annals of stupid American comedy.<<

Yeah (sigh), I have daydreamed about that a two or time.

>>Insult Americans? Ha! I haven't even gotten around to that yet. But, really...they're just too easy, aren't they?<<

That's just it. Americans are fools and idiots with no humor or class anymore. Dense, slow, obtuse, jerk-offs who don't care how they act in front of the rest of the world and they act unbelievably idiotic and selfish and think it's a virtue. There was a time when the rest of the world wanted to be like us--now they're only too glad they're not and I can't say as I blame them. But if your PM had had the brains and balls to insult our fucking idiot retarded chimp of a president, you Brits wouldn't kissing Dubya's stupid ass right now and hating every minute of it.

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: GUEST,Ms Penelope Rutledge
Date: 28 Jul 06 - 08:19 PM

I am delighted, 282RA, that you have chosen to respond and hang yourself with your own filthy tongue. Lovely! Give us some more examples of your degeneracy, please. It is soooo entertaining...much more so than that pathetic show, "The Three Stooges".

Can you do pratfalls and make sounds like "woo woo woo"? I wager you can. Yes, I suspect that you are capable of that, if nothing else. After all, you are a prat, and that's really all that's required, isn't it?

What a shame that upon Curly's untimely (or was it timely?) demise, you could not have taken over his role, 282RA. That would have been a sight to see. I would speculate that you could have lowered the humour on the show by at least a notch or two, and have become a legend in the annals of stupid American comedy.

Insult Americans? Ha! I haven't even gotten around to that yet. But, really...they're just too easy, aren't they?

*PR

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: 282RA
Date: 28 Jul 06 - 06:37 PM

>>Sorry - there was on elast thing after all.

Who the f"£$ is Willis? <<

That was from an American show called "Different Strokes" which starred Gary Coleman. IT WAS TERRIBLE!!! An embarrassment to American television (not that that is hard to achieve these days). One of those "sit-coms" that were so bad that people actually found this so-called "reality tv" entertaining. Reality tv is like that thread of the fat porker Christian woman spazzing out screaming about being a "Christian warrior" and all that. Horrible.

One of the reasons I started watching Monty Python and Goodies in the 70s was because American TV starting going down the shitter around then. It's pretty much terminal now. Rotten. Can't stand Survivor, Bachelor, Fear Factor, Apprentice, all that garbage. STOOPID!    Just like American music these days. There was a time when we were top of the top but now we suck. We just plain suck.

Then again, look who we elect as a president and put Christian idiots in charge of Congress. I don't know how bad it is in Britain but you can't be doing any worse. We've lost our edge. We're just plain embarrassing now. We're not entertaining or funny anymore--even in a bad way.

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: 282RA
Date: 28 Jul 06 - 06:27 PM

>>It has come to my attention 282RA, that you have been insulting England and British people in general in an absolutely disgusting manner on this thread. May I say that I think you are an utter prat, a moronic degenerate, and a complete fool. No wonder you still idolize the Three Stooges! You have clearly never developed beyond the mentality of a pre-schooler, so I'm sure they seem hysterically funny to you. Why don't you go out right now and buy all the Three Stooges videos you can find and watch them until your single, lonely, barely functioning brain cell goes into meltdown and runs out one of your nostrils?<<

While I'm doing that, why don't you grow up, you biscuit-eating tea-sucking pale imitator of American superiority?

Just insult Americans back if it bothers you that much. Virtually any insult you have for Americans is likely to be correct and it wouldn't bother me a bit because I could care less what you or anyone else thinks. So why don't you assholes across the ocean quit taking yourselves so seriously? You ain't shit, you lick Bush's balls, you suck and you know it.

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: 282RA
Date: 28 Jul 06 - 06:23 PM

>>I used to love the Stooges as a kid. As I got older, they lost some of their shine.<<

I thought Shemp did a great job of filling in for Curly--Shemp was, after all, the original 3rd stooge. Shamp was hi sown mand and had his own routine and was freaking hilarious in his own right. But after that, they were just groping around tryng to find a fat guy who looked like Curly. It wasn't the same. They did try to get Mousey Garner but he was under contract and his boss wouldn't let him go. That might have prolonged the Stooges' life but it was one of those what if kind of things.

But the Curly-Shemp days were great.

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: GUEST,Ms Penelope Rutledge
Date: 28 Jul 06 - 05:50 PM

It has come to my attention 282RA, that you have been insulting England and British people in general in an absolutely disgusting manner on this thread. May I say that I think you are an utter prat, a moronic degenerate, and a complete fool. No wonder you still idolize the Three Stooges! You have clearly never developed beyond the mentality of a pre-schooler, so I'm sure they seem hysterically funny to you. Why don't you go out right now and buy all the Three Stooges videos you can find and watch them until your single, lonely, barely functioning brain cell goes into meltdown and runs out one of your nostrils?

* PR

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: *daylia*
Date: 28 Jul 06 - 10:39 AM

Never had any use for the 3 Stooges - not since I was about 3, anyway. They failed to hold my attention then, and they still don't make the grade. Funny, I've noticed that males appreciate them more than females -- same with the Simpsons, the Trailer Park Boys etc.

Overall, I give the Stooges a 3-B rating -- Banal, Boring and Braindead.

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Jul 06 - 04:53 AM

Sorry - there was on elast thing after all.

Who the f"£$ is Willis?

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Jul 06 - 04:43 AM

Sorry for the delay, 282. Tai Chi and open mic on a Thursday remeber:-)

Firstly thanks for spotting your mistake and having the courage to apologise for it. As to me getting off this thread. I have no objection to that. As I said I think it was a poor bit of comedy anyway but I should not have said it was shite. It was your work and I had no right to criticise it in such a negative fasion. I apologise. I did try to apply constructive criticism later by adding that you were getting better and with practice it could be very good but I don't think you were in the mood to spot that.

OK? Lets address a couple of issues I have before I do leave though. You say you did not address the thread to me. But in response to Erics post you say Notice how it's always dumb fucking Limeys who can't read anything over 5 sentences. And they wonder why they've taken Canada's place as America's bitch these days. Well, I am sure you realise there are a lot of us 'Limeys' on the Mudcat. You will notice that I did not post at all until you made that remark. If you want to take a swing at us, fine. But you must expect that at least one or two will swing back. When I do take a swing back you then say it is 'weird stuff'? How so?

You say if I don't like the thread or you, get off it. Who says I don't like the thread or you? I enjoy debate for the sake of it. I will argue both sides, and often do, as a mental excercise. This thread has been great:-) And you? Well, when you are in a reasoning mood your arguments are both logical and well put. I may disagree but I enjoy them all the same. That person I do like. There does seem to be another side that I am not sure of but I can live with that. I am not sure what side will respond to this but hopefuly it will be the former.

If you are in one of your calmer stages there is one other thing you can do for me. Can you explain what you mean by 'my weird behaviour'. Please give me examples and what you think weird about them. Perhaps it is just a difference in language? If you don't want to do it on the thread, fine. PM me. I will respond to either. But don't expect me to just leave the thread because you do not like the things I say.

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 28 Jul 06 - 01:43 AM

I used to love the Stooges as a kid. As I got older, they lost some of their shine.

Their humour style grew out of a long tradition - The Commedia del Arte, in which the original 'slapstick' was much used - a thin piece of wood, with another thin piece hinged so that when it struck something it made a loud noise, and did not cause any great harm to the participants.

Funnily enough, 'Benny Hill' humour also grew out of the same traditions. "Boobs and Bums Humour" was a great hit back then - called "Low Comedy"...

Shakespeare loved to use it too to appeal to the 'pit' - see 'the porter scene' in MacBeth (and many others,including much of '12th Night') - you have to know how to 'read' slapstick when written down as just text to 'see' what the actors are doing... :-)

I have finally acquired some of their shorts on DVD, but only a few...



BTW Re: "I am glad you mention the inferiority complex as well." above...

What is really meant is 'superiority complex' - this is when people who think they are 'superior', are driven to keep on attempting to demonstrate their 'superiority' (most often usually existing only in their own mind) over others all the time.

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: 282RA
Date: 27 Jul 06 - 12:56 PM

Oh, sorry, Dave. I confused eric the red's response with yours. His was an insult, yours was not. Nevertheless, you're taking this too far and it's getting pretty boring and weird.

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: 282RA
Date: 27 Jul 06 - 12:52 PM

Dave,

Really now, it's time to stop. You're really coming across as unglued. You've apparently mistaken me and everyone else here for someone who cares what you think. It's like you're swinging at me for no particular reason and beating yourself up in the process. If you don't like this thread just get off it. If you don't like me, don't respond to my posts. It's really that easy. I didn't address this or any thread to you and none of my threads are about you so why you feel the need to respond to them right off the bat with insults tells me you have some strange problem (yes, go back and look at the your first post on this thread, son, that was an insult and there was no reason for it).

I don't care if you like me or anything I write. Just ignore it if it bugs you. There isn't a person in this forum that would disagree--just ask anyone. If I'm a coward and blatant liar and all that--fine. I don't care what you think but, before you force people to draw some unsavory conclusions about you due to your weird behavior, I think you should stop this bizarre nonsense. Sound good, Willis?

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Jul 06 - 04:05 AM

:D

Like I said. 282, you are getting there. You just need more practice. Try reading Pratchett or Bryson.

You don't need to fake a funny accent. On your Shatner thread you showed some signs of real humour. This one was absolute shite but that one was OK. Trouble is if anyone criticises you go into petulent child mode. Which is when you start getting treated like a petulent child.

And no, I don't call 99% of people cowards and liars. Only those who tell blatant lies and admit that they will not post their real name for fear of gertting stalked.

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: 282RA
Date: 26 Jul 06 - 10:41 PM

Looks like DtG needs a hug from the Great One (pbuh).

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: 282RA
Date: 26 Jul 06 - 05:38 PM

>>So I was right then? A coward and liar afraid to give us any details of himself. Are you really that frightened?<<

Why, watchu talkin 'bout, Willis? You're calling 99% of the people in here and in most other forums cowards and liars. Whatsamatta witchu? Can't win no popularity contest that way. Didn't yo mama teach no manners no how?

>>You needn't be you know, there are organisations that can help with your delusions. There are lots of people who know I am. I am not living in fear of being stalked. You too can live a full and happy life with the help of those around you.<<

I ain't know you from Adam or Sandler, son, and you don't strike me as righteous! Gonna has to gitcho kix from someone else's trix.

>>Even I am happy to help. Carry on casting your feeble insults and attempts at intelectual argument.<<

Uhh....yeah, right.

>>I will even encourage you if you like. It will help if you can at least act out your fantasies here rather than harming people in real life or even abusing yourself. Though I suspect you have had more than your fair share of the latter:-)<<

Hohoho! When you ain't got no sense of humor--don't try to be funny!

>>If it is that important to have people who do not know who are believe you have won something that does not matter in the least then please feel free.<<

????

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Jul 06 - 05:26 PM

So I was right then? A coward and liar afraid to give us any details of himself. Are you really that frightened? You needn't be you know, there are organisations that can help with your delusions. There are lots of people who know I am. I am not living in fear of being stalked. You too can live a full and happy life with the help of those around you.

Even I am happy to help. Carry on casting your feeble insults and attempts at intelectual argument. I will even encourage you if you like. It will help if you can at least act out your fantasies here rather than harming people in real life or even abusing yourself. Though I suspect you have had more than your fair share of the latter:-)

If it is that important to have people who do not know who are believe you have won something that does not matter in the least then please feel free.

Enjoy

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: 282RA
Date: 26 Jul 06 - 04:35 PM

>>Then why are you here?<<

Well, excuse me, I didn't realize you have to accept only one definition of folk before being allowed to post here.

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: 282RA
Date: 26 Jul 06 - 04:29 PM

When I said follow your own advice, it was in relation to developing your social skills. And perahps you can develop a sense of humor as well. There's something wrong with people who don't have one and you don't have one. You're still mad because I kicked your ass in that thread about the nonhistoricity of Jesus. that's where all your antagonism started and if you think you're fooling anyone about that, you're--as usual--sadly mistaken.

As for using my real name online, nobody in their right mind should ever do that unless you're already famous. You are obviously unglued and without even the slightest bit of anything resembling a sense of humor. I have no idea who you are and I am not about to find out you live in my area and discover I am being stalked. Nice try but, no, you will not get my real name. Not now. Not ever.

But, as I said, look up those threads and learn how much more you don't know. Instead of being jealous of people who do their homework, try doing some yourself and then you might actually know what you're talking about enough to hold your own in an argument. Until then, you is owned, baby!

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Jul 06 - 03:49 PM

I said "You need to visit more folk clubs"

You replied "Perhaps you might follow your own advice."

Surely that is encouraging me to visit more folk clubs?

It makes a bit of a joke of your recent statement

I never encouraged anyone to visit more folk clubs

You are a blatant liar, and very poor one at that, who has nothing better to do than try to foist your exceptinaly lame version of philosophy on people who don't want to listen.

As to thanking me for caring. Think nothing of it. I like to be kind to all dumb animals. But if you think I care personaly for someone who does not even have the courage to use his own name I think you are very much mistaken.

Thanks for the laughs though:-)

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Jul 06 - 01:33 PM

Then why are you here?

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: 282RA
Date: 26 Jul 06 - 01:14 PM

>>Perhaps you would like to try a bit of original thought instead of using everyone elses?<<

Heh-heh! Jealous.

>>That aside you can find me any Monday here I am one of the mentioned residents, Dave Polshaw.<<

And we all know about Dave Polshaw.

>>On Thursdays you will find me teaching Tai Chi at a local community centre followed by the Open Mic night at St Lukes church hall in Salford.<<

But that's in some Limey part of the world and no one cares about that part. That's why your PM had to attach himself like a leech to George Bush in order to vicariously experience what it's like to lose an empire. At least we have one to lose.

As far as music goes, we Yanks do and always have kicked your sorry asses. Everything you got, you stole from us. Although you did take in our exiled rocknrollers--you deserve that much. But by that time, they had already crested. That's why Lennon moved here and even ol John Baldry moved to Canada.

>>Every October, as you will see on our web page, we run a weekend festival.<<

Capital! Smashing! Pip-pip-cheerio and all that good shit, eh what?

>>Every February we have a hiking/drinking/singing weekend.<<

People in our country do that too. They populate alleys all across every major American city. Occasionally, I'll slip one a buck.

>>Odd days in between you can find me at any number of music sessions or folk clubs in the area.<<

Methinks you have nothing but odd days, mate.

>>Please tell us what your qualifications are to advise people to visit more folk clubs. Either that or crawl back under whatever stone you came from. I don't realy care which:-)<<

Ah. I think you're replying to someone else. I never encouraged anyone to visit more folk clubs since I don't visit them myself. I'm not a folkie, mate. Wouldn't know anything about it. I go for 50s music--jump blues, rockabilly, doowop. I also like ragtime and early jass. Don't know of any folk artists. Well, Dylan, I've heard of him.

If you don't believe me, you can do a search in this forum for past threads on such people as Kid Ory, Gene Vincent, Scott Joplin, and the bawdy song (specifically Lucille Bogan's "Shave 'Em Dry"). I wrote and posted those years ago as AR282 and then I was gone a long, long time and when I came back I couldn't even remember my password so now I'm 282RA. That's the music I'm into, son, so if you're trying to out-folk me, you're wasting your time since I have little interest in anything commonly called folk.

Nice of you to care, though. Bye now.

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Jul 06 - 04:52 AM

Perhaps you might follow your own advice.

Perhaps you would like to try a bit of original thought instead of using everyone elses? That aside you can find me any Monday here I am one of the mentioned residents, Dave Polshaw. On Thursdays you will find me teaching Tai Chi at a local community centre followed by the Open Mic night at St Lukes church hall in Salford. Every October, as you will see on our web page, we run a weekend festival. Every February we have a hiking/drinking/singing weekend. Odd days in between you can find me at any number of music sessions or folk clubs in the area.

Please tell us what your qualifications are to advise people to visit more folk clubs. Either that or crawl back under whatever stone you came from. I don't realy care which:-)

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: 282RA
Date: 25 Jul 06 - 11:13 PM

I automatically get 75% of all receipts as stipulated in my contract as well as top billing and all mentions of my name MUST be followed by the phrase "The King of Plop."

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 25 Jul 06 - 08:11 PM

If you two bozos wanna have this out mano-a-mano, I can reserve a piece of sidewalk in Chicago any time this week. Call me. I can maybe even sell a few tickets, but I ain't promisin' much.

- Chongo

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: 282RA
Date: 25 Jul 06 - 08:01 PM

Perhaps you might follow your own advice.

Subject: RE: BS: The Holy Stoogaic Wisdom
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 25 Jul 06 - 06:32 PM

and Balthazar did shrug saying, "Homage should I pay? Nyuk! Nyuk! Nyuk!" is normal?

Phew! Glad I am strange.

Go visit some folk clubs, 282. Not only will it help your social skills it may stop you writing complete bollocks.

:D (tG)