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GUEST,Nellie Clatt 31 Jul 06 - 07:39 AM
John O'L 31 Jul 06 - 07:47 AM
GUEST,Nelie Clatt 31 Jul 06 - 08:00 AM
Dave the Gnome 31 Jul 06 - 08:07 AM
jacqui.c 31 Jul 06 - 08:08 AM
Paul Burke 31 Jul 06 - 08:09 AM
Dave Hanson 31 Jul 06 - 09:07 AM
GUEST,Rapaire 31 Jul 06 - 09:36 AM
Azizi 31 Jul 06 - 09:52 AM
Alice 31 Jul 06 - 09:56 AM
John MacKenzie 31 Jul 06 - 10:11 AM
Azizi 31 Jul 06 - 10:32 AM
Paul from Hull 31 Jul 06 - 10:42 AM
John MacKenzie 31 Jul 06 - 11:25 AM
Azizi 31 Jul 06 - 11:31 AM
Emma B 31 Jul 06 - 11:47 AM
Azizi 31 Jul 06 - 11:51 AM
Sorcha 31 Jul 06 - 12:59 PM
Nigel Parsons 31 Jul 06 - 01:12 PM
artbrooks 31 Jul 06 - 01:38 PM
Becca72 31 Jul 06 - 01:39 PM
catspaw49 31 Jul 06 - 01:53 PM
GUEST,Jim Bob Boy 31 Jul 06 - 03:00 PM
Rapparee 31 Jul 06 - 03:27 PM
GUEST,leeneia 31 Jul 06 - 03:37 PM
Azizi 31 Jul 06 - 05:52 PM
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Matt_R 31 Jul 06 - 11:36 PM
Dave Hanson 01 Aug 06 - 02:47 AM
Little Robyn 01 Aug 06 - 02:54 AM
GUEST,Nellie Clatt 01 Aug 06 - 02:56 AM
GUEST 01 Aug 06 - 04:33 AM
Helen 01 Aug 06 - 05:32 AM
Paul Burke 01 Aug 06 - 06:16 AM
Azizi 01 Aug 06 - 07:53 AM
Scoville 01 Aug 06 - 09:02 AM
Becca72 01 Aug 06 - 09:06 AM
GUEST,Nellie Clatt 01 Aug 06 - 09:10 AM
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Scoville 01 Aug 06 - 10:07 AM
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Subject: BS: Peoples names
From: GUEST,Nellie Clatt
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 07:39 AM

Reading that thread about Nonny James I thought, what a fucking stupid name, how can you take anything seriously from someone called ' Nonny ' and then I remembered another TV presenter called ' Jonty ' and then one from wayback called ' Bunty ' and I came to the realisation that people with stupid names live up to their stupidity and all of them wherever they are should be killed immediately.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: John O'L
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 07:47 AM

Thus spake Nellie Clatt


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: GUEST,Nelie Clatt
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 08:00 AM

No need to get personal John.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 08:07 AM

Wonder what Peaches, Fifi Tryxiebell and Heavenly Hanara Tiger-Lily Geldoff will get up to in later life?

:D (tG)


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: jacqui.c
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 08:08 AM

Well, Zowie changed his name to Joe, didn't he?


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Paul Burke
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 08:09 AM

I knew a guy who registered his daughter as Sweetie-Pie Electra Violet. He was a pillock.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 09:07 AM

Seriously though, what sort of a name is Nonny ?


eric


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: GUEST,Rapaire
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 09:36 AM

Well, when you want to stop them from doing something you can yell, "Hey, Nonny! Nonny! No!"


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Azizi
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 09:52 AM

What sort of name is "Nonny"?

Thanks for asking.

Nona {Latin}-the ninth {implying the ninth born child, if that child is a girl}; in Roman mythology, Nona was the name of one of the three Fates who spun the thread of life.

In compliance with the once ubiquitous practice of adding "ie" or "y" to personal names to create nicknames, "Nonny" & "Nonnie" are frequently used nicknames for "Nona".

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And since this is a music forum, though it probably has nothing to do with the personal name "Nonny", here's a 'Shakespearian' song that includes the refrain "hey nonny nonny nonny" . I can also think of at least one children's song that uses that same refrain...

"Sigh No More, Ladies..."
(From "Much Ado about Nothing")
Sigh no more, ladies, sigh nor more;
    Men were deceivers ever;
One foot in sea and one on shore,
    To one thing constant never;
       Then sigh not so,
       But let them go,
    And be you blithe and bonny;
Converting all your sounds of woe
    Into. Hey nonny, nonny.

Sing no more ditties, sing no mo,
    Or dumps so dull and heavy;
The fraud of men was ever so,
    Since summer first was leavy.
       Then sigh not so,
       But let them go,
    And be you blithe and bonny,
Converting all your sounds of woe
    Into. Hey, nonny, nonny.

http://www.poetryloverspage.com/poets/shakespeare/sigh_no_more_ladies.html

And, those interested in the meaning of non-standard names may want to check out this website: http://www.cocojams.com/names.htm

I visit it every day.

:o)


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Alice
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 09:56 AM

Where's the thread about Nonny James?


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 10:11 AM

I think that Nonno and Nonna are Italian words for Grandfather and Grandmother, so it could be Granny James. It could also be a contraction of Anona, as in Anona Wynn for those in the UK old enough to remember 20 Questions with Gilbert Harding.
Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Azizi
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 10:32 AM

"Anona"- "probaby from "Annona", the Latin goddess of the annual yield of fruits or produce.

[source: Winthrop Ames-"What Shall We Name The Baby" {Pocket Books, 1963; originally published in 1941]

Fwiw,I've found older books on names have the meanings of more currently non-standard names than contemporary books.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 10:42 AM

If everyone was called "Bruce" it would save a LOT of confusion....


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 11:25 AM

G'day Bruce. G'day Shiela.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Azizi
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 11:31 AM

"G'day Bruce. G'day Shiela"

Is this line from some UK television show? Please explain.

Thanks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Emma B
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 11:47 AM

Azizi, Bruce and Sheila are supposed to be the names of "archetypal" Australians and have become part of British "folklore" - the "jokes" will have to wait for another time :)

I met a charming Australian couple who were actually called Bruce and Sheila. They were so fed up with being asked "but what are your 'real' names?" that they took to carrying their passports everywhere!


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Azizi
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 11:51 AM

Thanks for that information, Emma.

They don't teach these kinda of things in school.

I'm not sure what the USA equivalent would be. For men maybe
"John Doe".

???


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Sorcha
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 12:59 PM

Yes, John Doe, or John Smith. 'Bob' seems to be In now for silly stuff.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 01:12 PM

With a surname like 'James' there could easily be a Welsh connection. In which case "Nonny" is often used as a diminutive of the beautiful Welsh name Rhiannon

CHEERS
Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: artbrooks
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 01:38 PM

Then there was the kid whose parents were Tolkien fans and named him "Bilbo." He renamed himself "John" as soon as he started school and became subject to the obvious variant of his name...


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Becca72
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 01:39 PM

I went to school with a girl called Iva Head (what were her parents THINKING??). All the boys called her "Gimme".


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: catspaw49
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 01:53 PM

No big deal......I went to school with a girl named Sharon Peters....No need for any changes there at all!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: GUEST,Jim Bob Boy
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 03:00 PM

Here's a Nonny": Joanne


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Rapparee
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 03:27 PM

Back to music...in the Army we sang

Hey na hey na a nonny
Hey nonny nonny no
Hey na hey na a nonny
Hey nonny nonny oh!

I know a girl all dressed in red
Hey nonny nonny no
Makes her livin' on feather bed
Hey nonny nonny oh!

More verses, all more scurrilous than that one. This was not even suggested as a children's song.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 03:37 PM

How come Bonnie, Ronnie and Lonnie are okay names, but Nonny for some mysterious reason is not?

And what about the Greek singer Nani Mosquiri? (sp)
-----------
Here's a different aspect of name-giving. I recently went to a softball game played by ten-year-old girls. Here are some of their names:

Hayley
Bailey
Mason
Bob (christened Megan)
Madison

Why do I get the feeling that their parents wanted boys and are not ashamed to let the world (including their daughers) know it?

The exception might be Hayley, whose name was probably inspired by the indubitably female Hayley Mills.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Azizi
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 05:52 PM

Rapaire,
Rapaire,

The refrain of the song you posted is the children's song I was thinking of, but with different lyrics. I heard it on some record. It's not from my or my children's childhood. Unfortunately, I can't recall the words...

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This thread is a reminder to me not to be an absolutist about the orgin and meaning of a name. I should have remembered that there are often names [and other words] with same spelling or similar spelling in different languages which have completly different meanings. And nicknames often are given that appear to have little or nothing to do with the spelling or pronunciaton of a person's name.

Which leads me to the name Rhiannon. I googled that name and learned that Rhiannon, Celtic goddess of the moon and inspiration, the enchanting fairy princess who rode so swiftly that no horseman could catch her, loved and chose to marry a mortal king of Wales.

Accused of murdering their infant son, Rhiannon bore her humiliating punishment with a grace and dignity that melted the hearts of her adopted countrymen.

Eventually proven innocent, Rhiannon was reunited with her husband and son and restored to her throne.

Later the Celtic goddess Rhiannon became the famous Lady of the Lake who, in the legends of Camelot, gave Arthur the magical sword called Excalibur."

Source: http://www.goddessgift.com/goddess-myths/goddess_rhiannon.htm

Also, see The Songs of Rhiannon-Stevie L Nicks

****

I also found the similarly spelled Arabic name "Rihana" {variants: Rhiana, Rhianna; Riana, Rianna} in a number of baby books on names. Rihana means "sweet basil"

Interested in what basil signifies? See http://www.sallys-place.com/food/columns/gilbert/basil.htm.

****

Btw, I also know an African American pre-school girl whose nickname is "Nonnie". She has a Swahili name that begins with a "N", but in my opinion, that name does not at all sounds like that nickname.

Again, this thread is a reminder to myself that at least in most contemporary cultures, there are no hard and fast rules when it comes to giving people "first" names and nicknames.

Thanks for reinforcing that lesson for me.

-Azizi


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Azizi
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 05:53 PM

Hmmm, as a result of my cutting and pasting, I wrote Rapaire's name twice.

Well, double the pleasure and double the significance and all that jazz.

LOL!


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: open mike
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 09:35 PM

how about Moon Unit Zappa?
and i htink there is another sibling ?
didn;'t someone (grace slick?) name a child "god"?


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: frogprince
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 10:52 PM

I think Slick put out the word that she had named her daughter "god", but later said she was really named something else, not quite so weird; if I remember right, it was "China"; if not, some other celebrities's kid is named "China".


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Matt_R
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 11:36 PM

I know a girl whose first and middle names are Velvet Glory.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 02:47 AM

I once knew a guy called Richard Head, he didn't like ' Dick '

eric


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Little Robyn
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 02:54 AM

Most young Hayleys have been born since 1986, and are named for Halley's comet (but with wrong spelling). Any Hayley Mills clones are much older - probably in their late 30s by now.
And Madison's parents probably enjoyed the mermaid movie.
My cousin Naomi is usually called Noni (Know-knee) but my Grandmother's sister Naomi was called Nona.
Robyn


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: GUEST,Nellie Clatt
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 02:56 AM

OI Azizi, aint you got a sence of humour or what ? this is a joke thread FFS


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 04:33 AM

I think Nonnie is a lovely name. I'm really, really not keen on Nellie though.

(And the first post certainly didn't come across to me as a joke. I'm sorry if you think I lack a sense of humour, but I really found it offensive.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Helen
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 05:32 AM

I once briefly met a young woman known as Nonny and was extremely disappointed to find out that she had shortened her beautiful name of Rhiannon.

I've also just finished my second go at working at Births Deaths & Marriages and some of the names are pretty silly, IMHO.

I really can't relate to calling a girl Mckenzie or Bailey or Taylah or Jaime (pronounced Jamie) or boys called BJ or Prince Michael, or whatever other silly names people come up with.

Or calling the poor kids by shortened/nicknames rather than offically giving them the full name and then just using the shortened form for everyday use. There are a lot of Jacks, Bobs, Mollys and Jamies who, when they are more mature, are going to want to change their names to something more adult, something that can be taken seriously in the boardroom or the lecture halls or or in relationships or whatever.

Just my little peeve-rant. Sorry!

And Nellie - interesting thread. Thanks for starting this serious discussion about names.

Helen
;->


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Paul Burke
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 06:16 AM

Did I mention the bloke I knew, surname Perrins- his parents christened him Leon.

There was another unfortunate I met, called Philip McHunt.

Both sad, but true.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Azizi
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 07:53 AM

Guest Nellie Clatt,

For what its worth, GUEST, 01 Aug 06 - 04:33 AM was not me. However, like that Guest, I found your initial post to be offensive in that it not only put down certain names as 'stupid' but also talked about killing those folks who had those names.

However, I decided to disregard that post and use the opportunity presented by this thread to exchange information about a subject that I find fascinating. You may note that I joined the discussion in this thread in response to this post:

RE: BS: Peoples names
From: eric the red - PM
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 09:07 AM

Seriously though, what sort of a name is Nonny ?

-snip-

And as a result of the information exchanged in this thread, I learned that Bruce & Shiela are the names of "archetypal" Australians, and I learned about the Celtic folklore about the goddess Rhiannon, and I learned a host of other things.

If some people want to use this thread to list unique, and unusual names, that's their choice. I see it as "different strokes for different folks". But if others want to engage in a more serious presentation and exchange of information about names, then that should be acceptable too.

And GUEST,Nellie, you asked me if I had a sense of humour. For what it's worth, yes, Nellie I do have a sense of humour {though I spell it "humor"}. Sometimes I let my humor out, sometimes it surfaces whether I want it to or not, and sometimes I keep it tightly locked up deep down in the dungeon.

Best wishes,

Azizi


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Scoville
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 09:02 AM

Never mind that most of us don't pick our own names and can't help it if our parents are eccentric.

Sorry--I do have a sense of humor, too, and I'll admit I've seen names that make me cringe but I don't think people with names that aren't to my taste are stupid and worthless. The brother of a friend of mine named his daughter "Bridget Madison" after The Bridges of Madison County, which I think is awful, but it doesn't mean the kid won't win the Nobel Prize.





That said, I've run across the following authors in our library catalog:

Edwin G. Boring
Irving B. Wiener
Hyman Spotnitz
Smiley Blanton

and yet they all grew up to be M.D.'s and made numerous contributions to psychiatric literature. More than I've done and I'm named after Sojourner Truth and have a decidedly un-funny Victorian given name.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Becca72
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 09:06 AM

Mike, Frank Zappa's sons names are Dweezle and Ahmed (or something close to Ahmed)


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: GUEST,Nellie Clatt
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 09:10 AM

You load of boring pompous gits, get a life and have a laugh now and again.

I bet none of you ' scholars ' can guess where my surname comes from and what it means ?


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 09:41 AM

Helen, I agree with your remarks on the naming of children.

Names should not impose the parents' views of the child's future. That's one benefit of giving first and middle names, one of which is more imposing than the other.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Scoville
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 10:07 AM

Actually we're quite a hilarious and clever bunch, only some of us don't feel the need to be mean and low-brow about it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Bill D
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 10:23 AM

why, I'd assume 'Clatt' is a clever abbreviation of "Clueless pratt".


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: SINSULL
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 10:29 AM

My memory scares me sometimes. Nonnie was Carol Lynleys character in the Poseidon Adventure. Where the hell did that come from? Why can I remember that and not remember where I put the coffee?


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Paul Burke
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 10:45 AM

Dunno about Clatt, unless it's elated to clag nuts, but try THIS:

        Posted: 2003-02-02 21:27

[quote]On 2003-02-02 20:42, whiterose wrote:
Why did the Yorkshire girls where clogs? /quote]

Whiterose, you really give the old brain a working over with your questions!

It wasn't only Yorkshire. In fact Lancashire was even more of a clog county. I mentioned Yorkshire because it was nearer home and I was there more often.

Clogs usually had uppers of black leather with wooden soles on which were nailed shining metal clog irons curved to fit and when the irons were worn out they could be replaced. And clogs were favoured for all ages as they lasted — that is, never worn out but merely out-grown. The wooden soles gave good insulation on the cold stone floors of the cotton mills.

Clog dancing originated with the mill girls clackety clacking on the stone floors in time with the noise of the machines.

I first heard them in Lancashire as a ten year old when I was staying with my father at a hotel in the centre of Liverpool. He had gone there on business and took me along to see something of the country. At a ridiculously early hour, long before it was light, there was this great clattering from the street below as mill workers made their way across the city centre.

IT DIDN'T SEEM REET - Anon.

Wen a lass cum walkin' deawn eawr road,
'Er clogs went "er—clatt, er—clatt."
An' it struck mi, as Ah'd never knowed
A pair o'clogs t'seawnd like that.
Soo Ah waited wile she getten close,
Fer t'see wot wer th'matter,
Clogs doant "er—clatt, er—clatt" tha knows
Thi should guh "clatt—er, clatt—er!"
Ah thowt, "Just wen 'as passes mi
Ah'll 'ev a looka't'greawnd,
Cause Ah wer fair reet wonderin'
O'er th'reason feryon seawnd.
Sos wen she sad, "Nah then theer,"
Wen she passed mii' th' street,
Ah looked, an' does ta know
Booath 'er clogs wero't'wrong feet.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Bill D
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 11:00 AM

megalithic Clatt

deviant Clatt (16 years old...sounds about right)


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Scoville
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 11:24 AM

Actually, we're hilarious and clever even when we do feel like being mean and low-brown about it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Azizi
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 11:51 AM

Well, I don't know Scoville. Some folks might say that I'm
high-brown.

But I think I'm more caramel brown.

{If you know what I mean}

LOL!


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Scoville
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 11:59 AM

Oh, Lord--I didn't even see that! Ha ha! (I'm light olive myself. Off the brown scale, I guess.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Azizi
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 12:21 PM

Scoville, it's all good! *


"It's all good" is a hip-hop saying that I like. And in this case it has multiple meanings.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Scoville
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 02:21 PM

Amen.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 02 Aug 06 - 03:26 AM

Nellie Clatt, it rhymes with twat.

This is true because I know her.

eric


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Emma B
Date: 02 Aug 06 - 05:57 AM

clat   [klat]
a lump a clot, a mess a muddle

from the Scots on line dictionary - ok it's one t short of a pot!


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Sorcha
Date: 02 Aug 06 - 11:16 AM

Heard of Lear Jet? Personal private jet planes....??

Named their daughter Chanda. I went to school with her.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Scoville
Date: 02 Aug 06 - 11:36 AM

My mother knew both a Sandy Rhoades and a Sandy Beech [unsure of spelling].


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: frogprince
Date: 02 Aug 06 - 12:00 PM

50 years ago, in Minnesota, we regularly saw TV ads informing us that, for Culligan soft water service, we should "see Sandy Leak in Minnesota Lake" (Not makin' this up)


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Helen
Date: 02 Aug 06 - 07:11 PM

Nellie dear,

It's more fun winding people up, straight-faced, than falling into the nasty troll trap and getting mad.

That's my sense of humour.

Wind her up, reel her in, got her!

"You load of boring pompous gits, get a life and have a laugh now and again."

I am laughing - because it's fun turning a potentially sour conversation into a discussion about the things we are interested in. It's a nicer way than spitting back nasty comments, and then not getting anything positive out of it.   This isn't the thread discussion you expected, but it is a good thread, in my opinion, and that's the way Mudcat works. There are so many interesting people here, with interesting ideas and opinions, so it is always worthwhile having a chat.

So, I do apologise for winding you up, but not for trying to turn a negative into something more positive.

Helen


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Mr Happy
Date: 09 Nov 09 - 11:11 AM

...............aye, I bet loads've folk curse their parents for giving them ludicrous or embarrassing names.

Jamie Oliver's daughtersfor example:

The couple met in 1993 and have three daughters: Poppy Honey (born 18 March 2002), Daisy Boo (born 10 April 2003), and Petal Blossom Rainbow

& then there was Zowie Bowie!


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 09 Nov 09 - 11:49 AM

Unlike the writers of some of the letters (the Independent has) published following the naming of Wayne Rooney's son, I don't know what Kai means. You'll probably have to ask Lex Gigeroff who created the show, but Kai (the Dead Man) was a former assassin for His Divine Shadow, and the Last of the Brunnen G in the sc-fi series "Lexx".


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: ranger1
Date: 09 Nov 09 - 08:02 PM

Kai is a fairly common Scandinavian boy's name.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Rowan
Date: 09 Nov 09 - 09:40 PM

Azizi,
You may be interested in this excerpt from the script of Episode 22 of Monty Python's Flying Circus; I've included the text of their "Philosopher's Song" for your delectation:

First Bruce, an Australian in full Australian outback gear. We briefly hear a record of 'Waltzing Mathilda'. He is sitting in a very hot, slightly dusty room with low wicker chairs, a table in the middle, big centre fan, and old fridge.
Second Bruce        Goodday, Bruce!
First Bruce        Oh, Hello Bruce!
Third Bruce        How are yer Bruce?
First Bruce        Bit crook, Bruce.
Second Bruce        Where's Bruce?
First Bruce        He's not here, Bruce.
Third Bruce        Blimey, s'hot in here, Bruce.
First Bruce        S'hot enough to boil a monkey's bum!
Second Bruce        That's a strange expression, Bruce.
First Bruce        Well Bruce, I heard the Prime Minister use it. S'hot enough to boil a monkey's bum in 'ere, your Majesty,' he said and she smiled quietly to herself.
Third Bruce        She's a good Sheila, Bruce and not at all stuck up.
Second Bruce        Ah, here comes the Bossfella now! - how are you, Bruce?
Enter fourth Bruce with English person, Michael
Fourth Bruce        Goodday, Bruce, Hello Bruce, how are you, Bruce? Gentlemen, I'd like to introduce a chap from pommie land... who'll be joining us this year here in the Philosophy Department of the University of Woolamaloo.
All         Goodday.
Fourth Bruce        Michael Baldwin - this is Bruce. Michael Baldwin - this is Bruce. Michael Baldwin - this is Bruce.
First Bruce        Is your name not Bruce, then?
Michael        No, it's Michael.
Second Bruce        That's going to cause a little confusion.
Third Bruce        Mind if we call you 'Bruce' to keep it clear?
Fourth Bruce        Well, Gentlemen, I think we'd better start the meeting. Before we start, though, I'll ask the padre for a prayer.
First Bruce snaps a plastic dog-collar round his neck. They all lower their heads.
First Bruce        Oh Lord, we beseech thee, have mercy on our faculty, Amen!!
All         Amen!
Fourth Bruce        Crack the tubes, right! (Third Bruce starts opening beer cans) Er, Bruce, I now call upon you to welcome Mr. Baldwin to the Philosophy Department.
Second Bruce        I'd like to welcome the pommy bastard to God's own earth, and I'd like to remind him that we don't like stuck-up sticky-beaks here.
All         Hear, hear! Well spoken, Bruce!
Fourth Bruce        Now, Bruce teaches classical philosophy, Bruce teaches Haegelian philosophy, and Bruce here teaches logical positivism, and is also in charge of the sheepdip.
Third Bruce        What's does new Bruce teach?
Fourth Bruce        New Bruce will be teaching political science - Machiavelli, Bentham, Locke, Hobbes, Sutcliffe, Bradman, Lindwall, Miller, Hassett, and Benet.
Second Bruce        Those are cricketers, Bruce!
Fourth Bruce        Oh, spit!
Third Bruce        Howls of derisive laughter, Bruce!
Fourth Bruce        In addition, as he's going to be teaching politics, I've told him he's welcome to teach any of the great socialist thinkers, provided he makes it clear that they were wrong.
They all stand up.
All         Australia, Australia, Australia, Australia, we love you. Amen!
They sit down.
Fourth Bruce        Any questions?
Second Bruce        New Bruce - are you a pooftah?
Fourth Bruce        Are you a pooftah?
Michael        No!
Fourth Bruce        No right, well gentlemen, I'll just remind you of the faculty rules: Rule one - no pooftahs. Rule two, no member of the faculty is to maltreat the Abbos in any way whatsoever - if there's anybody watching. Rule three - no pooftahs. Rule four - I don't want to catch anyone not drinking in their room after lights out. Rule five - no pooftahs. Rule six - there is no rule six! Rule seven - no pooftahs. That concludes the reading of the rules, Bruce.
First Bruce        This here's the wattle - the emblem of our land. You can stick it in a bottle or you can hold it in your hand.
All         Amen!
Fourth Bruce        Gentlemen, at six o'clock I want every man-Bruce of you in the Sydney Harbour Bridge room to take a glass of sherry with the flying philosopher, Bruce, and I call upon you, padre, to close the meeting with a prayer.
First Bruce        Oh Lord, we beseech thee etc. etc. etc., Amen.
All         Amen!
First Bruce        Right, let's get some Sheilas.
An Aborigine servant bursts in with an enormous tray full of enormous steaks.
Fourth Bruce        OK.
Second Bruce        Ah, elevenses.
Third Bruce        This should tide us over 'til lunchtime.
Second Bruce        Reckon so, Bruce.
First Bruce        Sydney Nolan! What's that! (points)
Cut to dramatic close-up of Fourth Bruce's ear. Hold close-up. The superimposed arrow pointing to the ear.

The Philosopher's Song (Monty Python)

Immanuel Kant was a real pissant
Who was very rarely stable.
Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar
Who could think you under the table.
David Hume could out-consume
Wilhelm Freidrich Hegel,
And Wittgenstein was a beery swine
Who was just as schloshed as Schlegel.

There's nothing Nietzsche couldn't teach ya'
'Bout the raising of the wrist.
SOCRATES, HIMSELF, WAS PERMANENTLY PISSED...

John Stuart Mill, of his own free will,
On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill.
Plato, they say, could stick it away;
Half a crate of whiskey every day.
Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle,
Hobbes was fond of his dram,
And Rene Descartes was a drunken fart: "I drink, therefore I am"
Yes, Socrates, himself, is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker but a bugger when he's pissed!

Cheers, Rowan


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Bryn Pugh
Date: 10 Nov 09 - 04:24 AM

I worked with a bloke whose given name was Aragorn.

The poor sod - his parents couldn't have liked him very much.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 10 Nov 09 - 06:54 AM

But Aragorn had a good part in Lord of the Rings didn't he???


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Subject: RE: BS: Peoples names
From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler
Date: 10 Nov 09 - 07:34 AM

I've worked with a Michael Hunt (he liked his first name to be pronounced in full), and I've heard from someone who has to deal with large sections of the public by name that there are a lot of Teresa Greens out there.


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