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what phrases do you hate?

Slag 07 Aug 07 - 08:39 PM
Cluin 07 Aug 07 - 05:39 PM
GUEST,Big Mick in the Badlands of South Dakota 07 Aug 07 - 03:18 PM
Jim Dixon 07 Aug 07 - 02:27 PM
Chanteyranger 07 Aug 07 - 03:27 AM
dick greenhaus 06 Aug 07 - 09:48 PM
The Walrus 06 Aug 07 - 08:59 PM
Little Hawk 06 Aug 07 - 05:43 PM
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Little Hawk 06 Aug 07 - 12:08 AM
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Slag 05 Aug 07 - 11:27 PM
Rowan 05 Aug 07 - 10:48 PM
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GUEST,Desdemona 05 Aug 07 - 09:55 PM
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GUEST,faintingoat 05 Aug 07 - 03:59 PM
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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Slag
Date: 07 Aug 07 - 08:39 PM

IMO
IMHO
or the other IMHO
A "considered opinion" would be refreshing!


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Cluin
Date: 07 Aug 07 - 05:39 PM

When people use the word "ignorant" when the mean obnoxious or rude. ("Don't get ignorant with me!" is the worst).

And also the way the word "terrific" has come to mean a superlative of "good". The root of the word is "terror".


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST,Big Mick in the Badlands of South Dakota
Date: 07 Aug 07 - 03:18 PM

At the end of the day...... One of those good expressions that seems to be so in vogue that you hear it in every conversation. It's like folks look for something they can use and suspend the thought process that decent conversation requires.

Unions were important once, there was a need, but they aren't needed anymore....... Another of the same. Folks just flip it out without thinking it through. Then when I point out the issues of today, as contrasted from when those folks thought unions were important, they get quiet.

AND FINALLY..........

Joe Clones. We are moderators and each of us exercises our own judgment. Joe was the original moderator, and has additional responsibilities, but ultimately we all answer to Max. I am proud to be associated with Joe, and envy his even handedness, but I am not a clone (as used in today's vernacular) of anyone.

All the best,

Mick


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 07 Aug 07 - 02:27 PM

I work in the "post office" of a university. I've had this conversation many times:

STUDENT: Can you sell me a stamp?
ME: Sure.
STUDENT: Awesome!

Actually, it feels kinda good to be told repeatedly that I do awesome work. Maybe I should be wearing a Superman costume....


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Chanteyranger
Date: 07 Aug 07 - 03:27 AM

There aren't any phrases that get me really irritated. I don't sweat the small stuff (which, come to think of it, is a phrase that might irritate those who are irritated by irritating phrases, making them irritable). The closest one to irritating me is when someone says "conversate," which is a laughable distortion of language.

Chanteyranger


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 09:48 PM

I never heard a horse sing it...


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: The Walrus
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 08:59 PM

"...Actually, Walrus, I think you meant "Hetero"..."

Rowan,

I stand corrected, you are correct, 'Hetero' it is.

My only excuse is that mi triperwriter kan't spel.

Walrus.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 05:43 PM

Yeah. ;-) What good is awe anymore when it has become as common as the dandelion?


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: HouseCat
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 05:30 PM

"Amazing" and "Awesome". The two most worn-out words on TV, especially on home-improvement shows.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 04:13 PM

Like when they say, "fornicate in some remote location far away from here" ?


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: goatfell
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 04:11 PM

I know that I'm hopeless at spelling certain words, but I hate these people that uses big long words were a wee short word will do instead


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: goatfell
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 04:10 PM


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: goatfell
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 04:09 PM

people who text with short words and some words that they can't spell.

for example
THANX

TOM


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 11:44 AM

jewish rabbi


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Sam L
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 01:40 AM

I'd like to hear a tribal leader say Have your people talk to my people. That would be pretty cute.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 12:08 AM

I get shudders when people say, "Thank you for sharing that"....UGH! It gives me the creeps.

On the one hand, it's really smarmy-sounding and affected, a kind of a New Age expression that is supposed to let everyone know how terrifically broadminded and progressive the person is who just said it. On the other hand I often doubt that they really mean it, because what I think they're really thinking inside is, "God what a bore it was listening to you when we all could have been listening to me instead! Thanks for finally finishing."

Mind you, it also depends on who says it and how they say it. Sometimes it comes across okay. I guess you could say that about most things people say.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Sam L
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 12:01 AM

I hate "gay marriage." There's no test for gayness. Gay marriage might as well describe a gay man marrying a lesbian, which is perfectly legal. It's same gender marriage, and odds are pretty good that heteros will jump in to undermine the sanctity of it.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Slag
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 11:27 PM

Hear, Hear! Here 2 4 it is hetero (my hero!)


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Rowan
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 10:48 PM

"Thank you for sharing that." A number of these are interesting   It's rather unique and I might of replied but I'm disinterested in what you say.
Actually, Walrus, I think you meant "Hetero".


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Sam L
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 10:47 PM

I've always hated the word "perfect." It never seems the right word for the context. "Screw" is so absurdly wrong I don't know whether to love it or hate it.

But more to the topic I hate when people talk about a "line" between art and life, and how things cross, or "blur" that line.
I think art is a wholly owned subsidiary of life, and to think otherwise means you have a pretty loose grasp on things.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST,Desdemona
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 09:55 PM

Perhaps I should start a whole new "pet punctuation peeves" thread, but one of the things that really, really, really annoys me is the wanton misplacement of the innocent, well-meaning apostrophe, as in "twin lobster's" or--in the specific case of a local landmark that I'm sorely tempted to amend, in an act of guerilla punctuation--"Two Brother's Cafe." It just enrages me.

~D


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: The Walrus
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 08:35 PM

One word that irritates me is 'Homophobia'

The trait being described is not HOMOphobia but HETROphobia, a hatred or fear of that which is DIFFERENT - the only people who could commit what are commonly described as 'Homophobic offences against gays and be TRUELY Homophobic are Homosexuals (ditto straights against straights).

HOMO = Same. As in homosexual, homogeneus, homophone, homonym.
HETRO = Different. As in hetrosexual, hetrogenius, hetrodox, hetromorphic.

It's a silly point, but it has a similar effect (to me) as fingernails on a black-board.
Ah well, the term is too deeply dug in for me to be able to do anything about it.

Am I a pedant?

Walrus


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST,faintingoat
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 03:59 PM

I hate when people destroy the written language. Internet aside (although I do HATE when ppL TyP LiK DisS)I think the world needs to learn that "definitely" is NOT spelled "definately". "Then" and "than" are different words with different meanings. As are "their", "they're", and "there"

Also, you cannot do something "on" accident.

And You do NOT(bold underline italicize) need to ask where someone is AT.

No do you WARSH your clothes (that might just be where I live, but still). Coloring with "ornge crowns" is also "unpossible."


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: autolycus
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 03:28 PM

When people say,"You know what I mean?",

I reply, "Yes, I know what you mean."





       Ivor


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST,ibo
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 09:08 AM

people who say LIKE all the time,and YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?   it drives me nuts


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: autolycus
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 09:02 AM

Oh, far more than 'meet with', I really dislike

'meet up with'    -   that's 2 redundant words. What the hell's wrong with    'meet'?   (I'll show you grumpy


   It's ok, I'm fine really.

   it's all these 'up's and 'up with's that get on my wick, e.g.

   'head up the organisation', (come to think of it, it sounds like he has !!)

   All those 'up's and 'up with's are a waste of space/breath.

   And why do people on the meeja have to give the whole year name every time? '"It was on two thousand and five when it began, and now in two thousand and seven......." Why not "oh five" and "oh seven"?

btw, if you have to say it in full, it should be "twenty-oh seven" anyway   :-)


And politicians, and now others, saying "the important thing..........", are pretty smart. Interviewers fall into line with that one. I've yet to hear one say, "Surely there are other important things to consider."


lastly, an overused word, IMO, on this side of the pond, globe and galaxy, is "sorry". I'm as polite as the next person (I hope - depends who the next person is), yet this relentless "sorry".....................well, anyway.




       Ivor


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: goatfell
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 03:57 AM

any phrase that come out of anyone who is PC.

you know what I mean like whatever


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 03:27 AM

"meet with"
"it's been a roller coaster ride"
"put it on an Excel spreadsheet" (being retired means never having to do this ever again!)
"Less" (instead of "fewer")

ete etc

RtS
(the original grumpy old man)


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Slag
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 03:01 AM

"Head-on, applied directly to the forehead!"
"Next"
"Trust me. I know what I'm doing."
"Read my lips, etc. (you know what I mean).
"You know what I mean."
"You know" endlessly
24/7
7/24
" Oh My Gawd"
"Ohmygod"


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 03:00 AM

"Backbone Data Warehouse".
In the company I work for, this is IT-Bollocks-Speak meaning "I'm saying this because I know you won't have a clue what it means, and I therefore gain an advantage over you".


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 10:01 PM

Did it affect you adversely or have any longlasting effects that were deleterious? How effective would you say the course was in regards to affecting people's nonmilitary affectations and what were the overriding effects of that degree of effectiveness?


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 08:17 PM

When I was in the Army at Yuma Proving Ground a lifetime ago, the Commanding Orifice got bored and decided the "staff" needed some training, so he hired a prof from Arizona Western University (a JuCo known locally as "Arizona's Worst College") to come in and teach us all something.

The "staff" - consisting of 26 military and 360 feathermerchants (civil service employees to the uninformed) - were arbitrarily split in half, and I was soooooooo fortunate to be assigned to the first group, which took the classes.

The "perfessor" spent all but approximately one hour of the three months of "classes" trying to get the difference between "effect" and "affect" clarified for the students. I don't think the esteemed professor ever did get it figured out.

At the end of the first group's classes the CO requested an "evaluation" of the course from all those who took it.

I think I was the only one who actually turned anyting in.

I got called in to "debrief" with the CO. We had a nice chat.

Nobody else ever took the course.

John


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Alice
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 07:13 PM

A phrase my co-workers and I hate "the golden hours" -
as in "the golden hours of selling",
which means, you are expected to do all your paperwork and
preparation on your own time in the evening and on weekends.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: autolycus
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 06:59 PM

In radio and telly discussions,

   "Sorry, we've run out of time..."

   and thus,

   "I'm sure we'll return to this topic."

Well if you flaming well keep guillotining the discussion, we're going to HAVE to return to it. Idiots.




       Ivor


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: SharonA
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 05:40 PM

Liase on, brother, liase on.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 04:51 PM

LOL! Great example, Desdemona. Mastery of 50 or so key buzzwords and phrases such as "liase" and "run it up the flagpole and see who salutes" is the fast line to success and advancement in the corporate world of today, and it is exactly how I got to be the Supreme Leader of both the Mormons and the Freemasons.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST,Desdemona
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 04:43 PM

LH, I think what I'm hearing you say is that you'd be on board if you could "liase" (AAAAARRRGGGHHH) with John...

~D


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 04:16 PM

Yeah? Look, John, don't conflate the issue. (whatever the hell "conflate" means...I can't find it in the dictionary, but people seem to keep using it these days when they mean "confuse".)

They also keep saying "infer" when they mean "imply".

If we lived nearer to one another, we could interface at the local coffee shop, spend some quality time together, and arrive at a meeting of hearts and minds over this.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 04:07 PM

saulgoldie -

Since you brought up one of my favorite gripes. . .

As you said, 4 times more than is 5 times as much.

There's also the flip side: "10 times smaller than. . ."

Sorry, but once it's one time smaller, it's gone.

With either of these, you never know whether the speaker (or the writer) realizes that (s)he's an idiot, so you have to guess.

Unfortunately, this idiotic construction has been propogated in "public speaking," "media," "debate," "salemanship" and numerous other fields taught by degenerate wannabe (and failing) pseudo-literati on the falsity that "you have to use the emphatic construction and strong words" to be persuasive.

The only thing it persuades me of is:

1. The person using the term is mathematically illiterate, and hence NOTHING THEY SAY CAN BE BELIEVED, or

2. The person using the term is a liar, hoping you'll believe inflated, exaggerated lies, and NOTHING THEY SAY CAN BE BELIEVED, or

3. The person using the term doesn't know the actual comparison intended, and NOTHING THEY SAY CAN BE BELIEVED.

4. The person using the term gave up, goes along with the crowd, has NO OPINIONS of his/her own, and hence NOTHING THEY SAY CAN BE BELIEVED.

Funny how all the possibilities end the same way.

What is astonishing is that this usage crops up quite frequently even in scientific and technical journals where authors, and ESPECIALLY editors, are expected to know the difference, and apparently DON'T.

John


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 01:23 PM

Hey, folks? Listen up! Don't disunderempower me by misunderestimating me when I guesstimate, because at the end of the day I always give it 110 per cent, know what I mean? Can we run that one up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes? And who's gonna take the ball and run with it? I don't want to see anyone drop the ball! Do you capiche? Do you hear what I'm sayin'? Now I have to go spend some quality time with my significant other. We're gonna do lunch. It'll be a power lunch. Chill, brother. It's all good. (evil grin...)


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: saulgoldie
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 12:35 PM

Has anyone said "x times MORE than?" What folks really mean is "x times AS MANY as." "X times MORE THAN" is X times the original plus the original. This doesn't mean that much when the number is 100 or some other very large number. But when the original is, say 4, than the difference is between 4 times as many as, which equals 4, and four times MORE THAN, which equals 5. That is a 20% difference. One cannot be sure what the speaker or writer actually meant.

I recognize and don't care that the language is evolving. Evolution is one thing. But some things are just plain stupid or sloppy. Orientate, irregardless, nukular, AARRGGHHH!!!


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Alice
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 12:27 PM

"That's what it's all about, people!!!"
Ty Pennington, repeated about 20 times each
episode of Extreme Home Makeover


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Alice
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 12:26 PM

"I'm the decider." GW Bush


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST,Desdemona
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 08:54 AM

"Don't sweat the small stuff."

This ubiquitous platitude really irks me, especially since it's generally uttered by some fatuous nitwit who often goes on to point out that "it's all small stuff." In which case, why not just go back to bed and stop boring everyone else?!

~D


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: SharonA
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 03:26 AM

"Don't you think that [insert speaker's bloviated opinion here]???" The implication, of course, is that anyone who disagrees with the speaker must be a drooling idjit and/or the spawn of the devil.

"The problem is, is that [insert problem here]" and similar "is, is" phrases. There is no need for the second "is"!!! Only slightly less annoying is "What the problem is, is that [insert problem here]", which is closer to being grammatically correct but has yet another unnecessary word ("what" as well as the second "is").

One that was in vogue some years ago, when personal computers were newer, is "interfacing", which was used for any sort of person-to-person communication... as in "Let's interface for lunch."

Sports metaphors in a business office setting, especially mixed metaphors. I remember a job review I had once, where the department head told me I needed to "step up to the plate and run with the ball." When I asked her (yes, her) for clarification with regard to my job description and responsibilities, she said nothing except to repeat the baseball-football metaphor, which rendered it even more meaningless than it had been when she said it the first time. I was left to imagine a baseball hitter catching the baseball barehanded as it was thrown over the plate at 100 mph, and running the bases with the ball in his broken hand... and to wonder how such a maneuver would have been scored.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 03:03 AM

"Clubbing" - so called "night clubs" are no more than discos!!


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: JennyO
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 02:52 AM

I've noticed a new one creeping in lately - saying "What do you think to this?" instead of "What do you think of this?"


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 11:20 PM

Oh, here's another beauty:

Guess becomes "guesstimate"!

George Bush is an expert at Newspeak. Just listen (up?) to him.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 11:13 PM

What with all the verbing of nouns and nouning of verbs, we may be on our way to a whole new form of language: Newspeak.

Here's another thing that has been happening. Take a formerly simple, straightforward way of saying something and add further complications to it for emphasis:

Huge becomes "humungous".

Gigantic becomes "ginormous".

This becomes "this here".

That becomes "that there".

Disoriented becomes "disorientated".

Underestimate becomes "misunderestimate".

Regardless becomes "irregardless".

"Listen!" becomes "Listen up!"

"Wait!" becomes "Wait up!"

What in the hell do either of those last two require the addition of the word "up" for in order to be understood????? But you hear it in every movie now...

"Awright, men, LISTEN UP!"   

No, shut up... I am willing to listen, but I am not willing to listen up.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Sorcha
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 11:00 PM

Ya know what I mean?
Like, been there, done that.
Ya with me here?
So, what are you trying to say?
Are we on the same page here?
At this point in time....
Came/come on board for joining


'Verbing' of nouns...such as impacting, facilitating etc.


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