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what phrases do you hate?

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Subject: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST,Bruce Baillie
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 12:03 PM

What common phrases sayings or words do you hate then? here are a few of that are always guaranteed to get right up my fucking nose!
People who use expressions like 'Nice one!' 'No sweat!' 'Give me a bell!' 'Chill out!' '24/7!' ...these cause me mild irritation...
'No problem!' or 'Not a problem!' (this usually comes from someone in a shop when you've just bought a large item such as a new fridge and you ask them to deliver it on a Thursday!) as soon as the words have left there mouth you know there is definately going to be a problem, you'll wait in all day for a deliveryman who never comes and then they ring at 5pm and ask if it's OK if they deliver it the day after because there's 'been a bit of a mix up with the order!'
'Big Style!' and 'Big Time!' as in 'We fell out BIG TIME last night!'
The ones generally levelled at recalcitrant children such as 'Yer doin' my 'ead in!' and 'You are SO grounded!' And then there is the staple vocabulary of Chavland such as 'Right?' 'Innit?' 'Jernoworramean?' 'Babe!' 'Sorted and 'Gutted!' or as they are pronounce here in Yorkshire with the glottal stop in between, 'Sor'ed!' and 'Gu'ed!' Then there are the corporate gems like 'Think outside the box!' and others. I also hate the expression 'Gobsmacked!'...and please don't ever call me 'MATE!'
...Chiao Babes!


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 12:20 PM

Well there you go, right on, absoluteley, very much so, get a result,, ALL A LOAD OF BOLLOCKS.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Ebbie
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 12:24 PM

Whatever.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Nick
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 12:28 PM

Cool.

And being referred to as 'matey' - very prevalent in the UK Midlands.

Why can't we have 'fab' or 'gear' back (shudder)?


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 12:31 PM

"Guaranteed to get right up my fucking nose" and "Chiao, babes!".


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Elmer Fudd
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 12:41 PM

Totally awesome.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 12:43 PM

"my bad" !!!!!!!!!!!!!! (that enough exclamation points to make the point?)

If not, I'll, like, explain it.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Wesley S
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 12:52 PM

Anytime the word "party" is used as a verb.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 01:01 PM

even worse.."party hearty"


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: kendall
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 01:25 PM

push the envelope,
The cutting edge
I COULD care less.
State of the art.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST,weerover
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 01:39 PM

In the large company I worked for for many years we had regular reviews of performance. When asked what we had done over a period of time I was often told, "Yes, but all of that is your day job". I was only ever paid for that day job!

wr


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Sorcha
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 01:40 PM

Ya know what I mean?


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST, Topsie
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 02:37 PM

'set to' as in 'the weather is set to get warmer', 'inflation is set to rise', 'traffic jams/pollution etc. are set to get worse'. No one sets the weather or the pollution, and though interest rates and prices are set, the rate of inflation isn't.
I also hate 'in terms of'


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Kaleea
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 03:05 PM

Wanna go with?

So, it's like, you know, . . .

At a jam when it is someone's turn to pick the tune and they say, "You know, that ONE."

So, he's, like, . . .   And then she went, . . .   then I go, . . .
                   (are they done pottying yet?)



Once when interviewing job applicants, a young man told me, "And I'm very good at multitasking, and I'm a very thorough worker, and I do one thing at a time, and I do it right. . ."
               (do they even know what those phrases mean?)


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 03:08 PM

I've found it better to accept people as they are, and accept their turns of phrase.

Getting cross about such things doesn't help anyone.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 03:19 PM

I agree with Ed. Complaining about such things turns one into a windbag at best. I think it is usually a sign of growing older and getting cranky at little things. Don't worry about it! If we get "bent out of shape" at phrases, then we might as well stay home all day and do crossword puzzles.

Enjoy the phrases, as cliched and out of place as they might be.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: catspaw49
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 03:24 PM

Hey Wes....Dude...You got like a warped groove or what? Don't be a mook ...Man ya' jus' gotta' dig it....."Party" is never a verb Man.....As a verb the word be "par-TAY"......Can ya' get with it now? Yeah, that's jake Dad......cool....later....

Spaw


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST,bieh
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 03:40 PM

Add half a ton of BS and shatnerize thoroughly until ready...


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Robyn
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 03:47 PM

When the boss says "It's not negotiable!"
So maybe I am getting old Ron, but that's very frustrating.
Robyn


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Wesley S
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 03:50 PM

Any time the word par-TAY is used as a verb.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Wesley S
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 03:59 PM

Also "Current chief of the Mudcat Editing Team"


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 04:14 PM

also "perhaps" and "imposed judgements"


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: catspaw49
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 04:18 PM

What about "Fellow Poster?"   Even worse is the "Anonymous Volunteer Fellow Poster." Sounds like mods and members are communists.......

Are you now or have you ever been an Anonymous Volunteer Fellow Poster?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 04:21 PM

ummm...no, but I HAVE stopped beating them!


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: SINSULL
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 04:31 PM

"Whatever."
I get pissed just typing it.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Bert
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 04:33 PM

Second of all!


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Wesley S
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 04:33 PM

I get tired of hearing "Has it always been that big?"


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 05:19 PM

'I'm sorry you haven't got the job.'


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 05:21 PM

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Now this won't hurt a bit, Dave.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Oh, Sorry...

:D (tG)


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Don Firth
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 05:27 PM

"At this point in time."

What's the matter with a simple "now"?

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Barry Finn
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 05:31 PM

"WHAT'S IN YOUR WALLET". It's part of a TV commerical in the US. It's a add credit card ad.
Barry


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 05:38 PM

"Missing you already"... the hypocrisy of it!
"Visitation rights"... as if one intends to become a ghost and haunt them
"Manchester City vee Liverpool"... there are kids that believe "vee" is a verb meaning "to play"; all because some lazy sod couldn't learn "versus"


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Matt_R
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 05:53 PM

Old people bitching in this thread.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 05:58 PM

Love you too


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 06:05 PM

The noun "party" used as a verb and pronounced "PAR-tay"....


Party hearty, Marty.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 06:08 PM

Why, you impertinent young whippersnapper! (directed at Matt R...) (grin)


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Matt_R
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 06:35 PM

Well hey, that's what it is. I'M OLD AND I HATE EVERYTHING YOUNG PEOPLR SAY! WAAAAAAAAAAH

Shut the fuck up and play your goddamn banjos while you still have a shred of your old whiney lives left.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 06:40 PM

Matt, you're not as young as you used to be when you first came here...


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 11:34 PM

I hate it when the hem of my pant leg phrase.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST,Bruce Baillie
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 01:49 AM

...And then there are the bastards who mispronounce my name! usually from some call centre in Delhi, I pick up the phone and on the other end there is some obviously, Indian guy pretending to be called 'Phillip' or 'Charles' (because they mistakenly believe you'll warm to their sales patter if you think they're English)and asking to speak to 'Mr. Barley' or 'Mr. Beeley'...well that's when I start to pretend to be Chinese!

...but then that's the start of another thread on 'HOW TO DEAL WITH THOSE IRRITATING SALES WANKERS WHO PHONE UP WHILE YOU'RE HAVING YOUR TEA!


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST,Andy
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 07:09 AM

Don't watch much football but I wonder why, in the last few years the term 'scoreline' has been introduced. It's the SCORE for God's sake!! Also, whats this 'sea-change'stuff, as in 'there's been a sea-change in opinion'. Didn't know the sea changed that much, at least the last time I looked at it at Whitby it hadn't!

Andy


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 07:33 AM

Steady now Bruise.

Talk to the hand !!!!! what feck is that shit all about, talk out of your arse more like.

eric


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Jeanie
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 09:29 AM

I can't stand the term "best practice" that has crept into "business-speak". The two categories: "bad practice" and "good practice" are all that is necessary. What I don't like is the inevitable assumption on the part of the person using the term "best practice" that they (and their judgements) are infinitely superior to anyone else.

What makes it especially annoying, when I hear the term on TV or radio interviews, is if they drop the consonant and say: "bes practice". Bad speech as well as bad vocabulary !

I can't stand dropped consonants in *any* kind of phrase.

[It doesn't take much to annoy me, does it ?]

- jeanie :)


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 09:37 AM

"Best practice" makes you feel uncomfortable?   You hate the words "talk to the hand" yet you feel comfortable with using cliched words "feck" and "arse"?

Some of you people need to get some fresh air. Relax! They are just words and you do not own them! Just enjoy the ride.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST,Jim
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 10:57 AM

Hearing "Y'all" from a Texan is fine. Hearing, "Y'all don'know me!" from some guy/girl from Buffalo on the Jerry Springer show is another thing entirely.

Aw shit...I just admitted to watching the Jerry Springer show.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Leadfingers
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 11:48 AM

NO! We'll pay HALF that for twice as long playing time !


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: fat B****rd
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 11:58 AM

All the above which I have probably used myself at one time or another but........

"End of story..."
"I rest my case...."
"..and the point you're trying to make ?.."
"...So ??......"


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST, Topsie
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 12:27 PM

For GUEST,Andy

Shakespeare, The Tempest, Act 1, scene 2, lines 399-404

Full fathom five my father lies.
Of his bones are coral made;
Those are pearls that were his eyes;
Nothing of him that doth fade
But doth suffer a sea-change
Into something rich and atrange.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 12:32 PM

Look at it this way, Matt. I don't have to put up with going through your youthful stupidities any more in this life. I'm done with that.   But.......YOU are still going to get old and have to put up with what I'M going through now!

So....Nyah! Nyah! Nyah!

(nothing like a little real demonstration of maturity to snap the boy into line...)


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Rusty Dobro
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 12:50 PM

'You weren't going to do it with THAT, were you?'


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Don Firth
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 02:04 PM

"Overarching," as in "Our company's 'overarching' concern is. . . ."

I first heard that when I was working for the telephone company (Lili Tomlin had it about right). I gagged then, and I still gag whenever I hear someone use the expression. It's sort of a Madison Avenue gas attack.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: RangerSteve
Date: 11 Aug 06 - 08:28 PM

He's got game.
Let's do lunch.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Slag
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 01:23 AM

Here's one of, if not the TOP hated phrase:

"Your call is really important to us."
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
BS. If my call was REALLY important a human being would be answering it.

A close second is "Please hold" Hey, you answered the phone so deal with me. If someone is ahead of me, deal with them, then answer my call.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: JennieG
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 01:30 AM

It is a sad but true fact the the English language (and for all I know, other languages too) is constantly changing and evolving.

Doesn't mean that we have to like it, but it is going to happen anyway.

And before you all think I am being righteous - there are certain expressions that make me wince too!

Cheers
JennieG


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Gurney
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 04:01 AM

Slag, try to hear Les Barker doing 'Voicemail.'

"Have a nice day!"       I just bought SANDPAPER AND PAINT, you idiot!

"Have you been saved?"


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 07:14 AM

One I used to use myself until I realise how much it really peeved me when I heard Joey from Friends using it...

How you doing?

I mean... how you doing what? What's wrong with 'how are you?'
'What are you doing?'

Mutter mutter, darkly darkly....

LTS


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 12:41 PM

Noting is ever more innocuous that referring to anything by saying

"Ya! That's a CLASSIC"

A more inane and vacuous statement has yet to be uttered by the human race


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 12:53 PM

Especialy when refering to the latest bit of dross from whoever is the current fad in bum wiggling, croaking, plastic pop!


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 01:02 PM

Like that's in any way worse than a fat old guy in a cable knit sweater droning on and on and on about a past that never really existed?


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 01:09 PM

My hate is someone going on about something and then at the end of it saying "Well I don't know". Why talk about the bloody thing in the first place.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 01:10 PM

Have a nice day
24-7
irregardless
in the fullness of time
We'll have to priorize that
window of opportunity
blowout sale
pre owned


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 02:02 PM

It's all go


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 02:28 PM

Nah - suppose not Clinton. Just annoys me more:-)


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 03:08 PM

Too bad you never got to meet my Dad, Clinton... ;-)

What the hell is a "cable knit sweater"?


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Peace
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 03:10 PM

Cable knit sweater.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 03:13 PM

Yeah, that's what I figured. God, are they ever ugly!


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 04:06 PM

My brother-in-law is an accounting professor at the University of Wisconsin - but he's a philosopher at heart and wrote his dissertation on ethics in accounting. He takes a cynical view of the MBA's graduating from his program, and tries to ensure they keep a human perspective instead of a corporate one.

So, he plays "buzzword bingo" in class. Any time somebody uses a business buzzword, the entire class responds with loud razzberry sounds. Occasionally, my brother-in-law will get caught himself - but not often.

He also uses a lot of puns in his counter-corporate campaign. He contends these puns have a very important humanizing effect. His wife (my sister) and I disagree - we think the damn puns are obnoxious.

But I wish there were more business professors like my brother-in-law.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 05:20 PM

Joe, I respect you as though you were my own brother, but YOUR brother is right. Puns are fun, and require a desterous mind to make a really good one. Why I, myself, have been known to play with words just for the pun of it. ;>)


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Slag
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 05:55 PM

Week, John, 7/24 week.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Peace
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 06:09 PM

A notorious punster in Olde Englande was told by the King that if he made anymore puns he would be hanged. He was unable to contain himself and he did indeed tell another. The King found out and he was hauled to the gallows. The King, wishing to be perceived by his subjects as a warm-hearted monarch said, "If you swear NEVER to tell another as long as you live, I will allow you to leave." The punster said, "Thank you my Lord. No noose is good noose." THE ENDE


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 06:32 PM

Mind you, it just struck me, the old fat bloke in the cable knit sweater (Arran is earlier to type btw) is more likely to sing 'Stairway to heaven' than is the bum-wiggling, mini-skirted totty. So I take it back, Clinton, it is worse.

Cheers

DtG


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: SussexCarole
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 06:47 PM

"Touch Base" and "Team Player"    arghhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: RangerSteve
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 10:26 PM

Someone mentioned "pre-owned". I'm puzzled over the phrase "certified pre-owned" in car ads. I guess they guarantee that the car is used, whereas if it isn't certified, it's possible that the car may actually not be used at all. I'd sure be pissed if I was buying a used car and got a brand new one instead at the same price.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Slag
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 11:02 PM

RangerSteve! You have just impacted the tapred iron stud upon the flattened upper extremity! Well done!


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Peace
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 11:31 PM

Vote for me and I will . . . .


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Don Firth
Date: 12 Aug 06 - 11:42 PM

"Free gift."

Well, gloriosky! Does that mean they're giving me a gift and I don't have to pay for it? What do they call a gift that isn't free?

SHEESH!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Peace
Date: 13 Aug 06 - 12:04 AM

We're from the government and we want to help . . .


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Peace
Date: 13 Aug 06 - 12:58 AM

Tax audit.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Peace
Date: 13 Aug 06 - 12:59 AM

"Now, isn't THAT interesting" from a doctor or dentist.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST,JTT
Date: 13 Aug 06 - 05:33 AM

Strangers who call me "love", "chicken" etc.

"Bear with me for a moment". *Bear* with me? Do they know what that means?

"If you wish to talk to sales, please press 1..."

All illiteracies that misinterpret a common phrase, such as "hone in on".

New coinages when a proper word exists - can't think of any, but very common in business language.

Migrating emphasis in words - CONtemplative instead of conTEMPlative, INVisible instead of inVISible and the like.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Aug 06 - 05:44 AM

operationalization - I think it means 'start'.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Slag
Date: 13 Aug 06 - 06:07 PM

"utilize" or "utilization" when most often the correct word is simply "use". It sounds very pretentious.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Peace
Date: 13 Aug 06 - 06:11 PM

This will just take a minute.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Don Firth
Date: 13 Aug 06 - 06:42 PM

Whenever it's said by my barber or my dentist:   "Oops!"

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Peace
Date: 13 Aug 06 - 06:44 PM

Wot's a barber?


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Aug 06 - 10:34 PM

a barber is a cross between a Berber and a barbarian. I have been successfully avoiding them since summer, 1977.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Peace
Date: 13 Aug 06 - 10:40 PM

Got it, Bill. So, they ride horses, right?


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Slag
Date: 13 Aug 06 - 10:49 PM

Trust me. I know what I'm doing.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: JennyO
Date: 13 Aug 06 - 11:57 PM

"I think I missed the turnoff."


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Peace
Date: 14 Aug 06 - 12:07 AM

What happens when ya push THIS?


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: JennyO
Date: 14 Aug 06 - 12:15 AM

"Pull over, ma'am."


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Peace
Date: 14 Aug 06 - 12:18 AM

Put your hands on the car and step beckwards . . . .


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Rusty Dobro
Date: 21 Aug 06 - 02:30 PM

Thirty years ago, but I still wake up screaming:

'Now, I ken fine you're all enjoying the band, and havin' a wee bit tae drink, but here's my friend come all the way from England to Glasgow for ma weddin'! He's no expecting this, but I know he'll gie us a song! Find the man a guitar, will ye!'


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Aug 06 - 05:04 PM

"Still waiting for Jews to riot" It's getting tiresome.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: DMcG
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 06:01 AM

"That's just sematics" (and similar phrases)

Usually people mean 'splitting hairs' when they say that, but that is not what 'semantics' means. Is it possible to have a rational argument without paying attention to the semantics?


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST,Bruce Baillie
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 07:42 AM

...and I forgot to mention 'Sleeping together', now come on, you fucked, shagged, made love, copulated, made a beast with two backs, had a tumble, played around, had sex or whatever! but at no time during the event were you ASLEEP!!!


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 08:39 AM

I've noticed there are a lot of companies that don't provide products or services anymore. They provide "business solutions"!


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: EBarnacle
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 10:16 AM

I can't believe no one has mentioned "I won't lie to you." Whenever I hear that, I know the person is about to begin lying.
"To Tell the truth," does this mean the person has been lying all along?
Hang in there.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: leeneia
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 11:21 AM

Here are two habits people have developed that I dislike because they convey "You are so unimportant that I don't even want to waste a few words on you."

One is when people announce themselves merely by saying their own names, like this:
---------
The phone was ringing.
"Hello."
"Leeneia? John Paul Jones."
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I want to say, "What about him? If you want to speak to him, you've called the wrong number. He's been dead quite some time, anyway."


The other situation is when I am waiting on a customer in the fabric & craft store, and another person barges up to the table and snaps out a single word at me, paying no attention the fact that it's not her turn and that I need to concentrate when I use computerizd equipment.

One day a burb-bitch came up and snapped, "Frogs?"

I could have said, "Are you looking for

    fabric with frogs printed on it,
    for Chinese-style frogs for closing a garment,
    for the wire frogs used to arrange flowers,
    for a stuffed frog toy,
    or a ceramic garden frog?"

Instead I followed the policy I had worked out already and ignored her existence.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 11:34 AM

I'm already weary of "Snakes on a plane"


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Firecat
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 12:25 PM

I hate "At the end of the day". Well, obviously it's then otherwise you wouldn't be going on about it!!

Add to that "When all is said and done" and "In the fullness of time" and I want to punch out the pretentious smegger saying it!

Another one that gets me is "Are you over 18?". OK, I only look about 16, but I wouldn't be trying to do something for over 18s only if I wasn't!!

And relax...


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 01:12 PM

In the fullness of time, Firecat, when all is said and done, this matter of people questioning your age will no longer be a problem.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 02:25 PM

Every year, Lake Superior State University publishes a list of Banished Words (click for the current year's list). Follow links to previous years' lists. You can also submit your own words for consideration.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST,prisoner in a cubicle
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 04:25 PM

I've just been told to reach out to so-and-so to set up a meeting. He's over a hundred miles away. Can't I just phone him instead?


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Crystal
Date: 23 Aug 06 - 07:15 AM

Firecat You might be a nice moral person who wouldn't DREAM of ever violating the law, but lots of 16 year olds would! Actually I'm always being told I look too young, but the only times I've ever been ID'd (buying alcohol) was on my 21st and 22nd birthdays Ho-hum.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 23 Aug 06 - 07:24 AM

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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Hawk - PM
Date: 10 Aug 06 - 12:31 PM

"Guaranteed to get right up my fucking nose" and "Chiao, babes!".<<<

yes but can we at least let Eddy Izzard still say Ciao with a fake italian accent?

BTW I hate "it's all good"
NO IT IS NOT!


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 23 Aug 06 - 07:56 AM

"learning curve". Can't understand this one! What is this curve? Learning, I would have thought, developes in stages, going up, hopefully, but now and again hitting a plateau.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Aug 06 - 08:04 AM

Yes, but time and space ARE curved! There are actually no straight lines anywhere. Straight lines are an illusion. ;-)


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: melodeonboy
Date: 23 Aug 06 - 12:52 PM

Yes, Jim Dixon, this "solutions" business really gets on my tits. In Sittingbourne (Kent) post office, envelopes are now called "mailing solutions". And what about "employment solutions" (meaning "jobs")?

Private Eye magazine runs a regular column on the subject.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Bert
Date: 23 Aug 06 - 02:01 PM

Straight lines are an illusion... Gawd Hawks, that, coming from a man who is the nearest thing to a straight line that I've ever seen.

*BIG GRIN*


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Bill D
Date: 23 Aug 06 - 03:14 PM

" Straight lines are an illusion. ;-)"

not so! A circle is 'a round straight line with a hole in the middle'!


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST,Buck
Date: 23 Aug 06 - 11:15 PM

Press 1 for English


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Bert
Date: 24 Aug 06 - 01:44 AM

LOL Bill.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Bert
Date: 24 Aug 06 - 01:55 AM

Oh! I forgot, Bill knows all about round straight lines from those bowls and vases he turns.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 05:46 AM

Presenters on television who say 'I'll see you tomorrow' - no, they won't, even if I tune in to the programme next day they will only see the camera operators.

The man doing the lottery draw who says 'Good luck everybody. I hope your numbers come up.' - Imagine all the disappointed punters if one week they all chose the same numbers and those numbers came up!


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: ossonflags
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 06:11 AM

The latest bit of jargon in singarounds that seems to have crept in - or have I not been listening for a few years - " This is an A leval/degree leval/ chorus, Oh............... and being called "Squire"


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: freda underhill
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 09:48 AM

"you should.."


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: leeneia
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 04:20 PM

It's not a phrase, but I'm really tired of the word "surreal." Does it mean anything? At one time, it was a useful word for dealing with the strange art of Salvador Dali, but that was a long time ago.

I once heard a woman describe the kid who zipped around on a motorcycle in the movie "Local Hero" as surreal. All I could think of in reply was "Ummm."

-----------
It's dying out, fortunately, but I always disliked it when people used "anal" to mean "precise or perfectionistic." It was another way people had of arming themselves with the jargon of psychology when they were not qualified psychologists. Other examples:

paranoid = more nervous than I am
narcissistic = cares more about clothing and appearance than I do
nymphomaniac = has more sex than I do
over-emotional = makes me tense


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: leeneia
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 04:23 PM

Jim Dixon, thanks for the link to the Lake Superior State site. Since I don't watch TV, I hadn't heard some of the phrases, but the students were sure right about "breaking news."

Where is Lake Superior State? I was curious about it, but the home page was taking too long to load.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 05:33 PM

At work I hate any phrases that include the words 'proactive' and 'team' or 'teamwork'. When employers, these days, insist on employing insanely ambitious, talentless, little oicks with inflated egos, who would boil their own grannies down for soap if they thought that it would advance their careers, I maintain that effective teamwork is more or less impossible!

I also hate the phrase "can I get ...?" as in "can I get a pizza/cheeseburger/doughnut etc." Actually, this is probably perfectly acceptable usage in Chicago or Los Angeles but it sounds sort of annoying and pretentious when uttered by some spotty youth in Manchester (UK). I know that this is very petty and probably sounds a bit anti-American (sorry guys!) but it really grates with me!


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: terrier
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 06:55 PM

The two fearsome phrases shouted by the landlord of the local Hostelry:
TIME PLEASE GENTLEMAN   and   DRINK UP NOW.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: 282RA
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 07:18 PM

That's my story and I'm stickin to it.

Some jerk made a country song out of it. That's how you know it's a fucking retarded phrase--some ass goes and makes a country song out of it.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: ossonflags
Date: 27 Aug 06 - 03:58 AM

Think team Think team


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: leeneia
Date: 27 Aug 06 - 11:11 AM

The idea of teamwork originated in games, where nothing real is being done or won. In a game, if a player makes a sacrifice and his team wins, then the player is still a winner.

In business, the person who makes the sacrifice is usually just branded a schlemiel.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: ossonflags
Date: 28 Aug 06 - 04:14 AM

I found out the other dsy that we now call "Notice Boards" "Information Islands"


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST,solo
Date: 28 Aug 06 - 07:49 AM

In a game, if you make a mistake and the team loses, they all hate you. Same in business. I am self-employed, and in games I play as an individual, not in a team. If I make a mistake I have only myself to answer to.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 10:27 AM

........when some dimwit landlord/lady shouts 'Can you startfinishingnow!'


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 01:32 PM

heres a song from the Copper family of Rottingdean, Sussex
(I f.....ing know where they come from)

this is song I haven't sung for about five years, so I may forget some bits
(yeh, like the words and the tune)


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 01:38 PM

"maundering winsomely, he fetched the ambrosia"

I just detest it when people say that. Specially on stage. And most of all, at folk festivals.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 02:47 PM

good write

national security

national interest

globalization

there is no such thing as the American ruling class.


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Subject: RE: WHAT ABBREVIATIONS do you hate?
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 02:53 PM

TSA (tough shit asshole)

NSA (no such agency)

CIA   -(_)=(_)-

DIA

NIE

HHRS

NORA


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: emjay
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 03:14 PM

Damn. this is so much fun!

"Give it up for" when the crowd is supposed to applaud for someone.

How about someone saying such and such an athlete gives "110 percent." Where does he get that extra 10 percent and does anyone ever really give 100 percent?

And one that seems to have faded out now, when you want a little sympathy and someone says, "That sounds like a personal problem to me." Ok, so that's what it is.

And any statement that begins, "Thankfully," which I almost used to introduce the preceding paragraph. It is so easy to use some of these, even the ones I dislike the most.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 04:03 PM

we're doing it for the craic....
(means - we're all pissed, you're not getting paid, if you walk away without doing a turn - you really are a mean piece of shit!)


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST,joe_f
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 09:20 PM

price tag


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 10:35 PM

The "new hire". ("Hire" is supposed to be a verb, not a noun.)

"Do you want fries with that?"

"Are youse ready?" ("Youse" is a term used by people who don't know that the word "you" does not have a plural form, but some people get so used to it that they even start using it for the singular! The people who use it around here unwittingly expose their class by so doing...that is to say, they are probably from the next level just above the common garden slug.)


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Peace
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 10:49 PM

"I seen it."

That one drives me apeshit.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 10:57 PM

You gotta stay clear of Shane, man...


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Sorcha
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 11:00 PM

Ya know what I mean?
Like, been there, done that.
Ya with me here?
So, what are you trying to say?
Are we on the same page here?
At this point in time....
Came/come on board for joining


'Verbing' of nouns...such as impacting, facilitating etc.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 11:13 PM

What with all the verbing of nouns and nouning of verbs, we may be on our way to a whole new form of language: Newspeak.

Here's another thing that has been happening. Take a formerly simple, straightforward way of saying something and add further complications to it for emphasis:

Huge becomes "humungous".

Gigantic becomes "ginormous".

This becomes "this here".

That becomes "that there".

Disoriented becomes "disorientated".

Underestimate becomes "misunderestimate".

Regardless becomes "irregardless".

"Listen!" becomes "Listen up!"

"Wait!" becomes "Wait up!"

What in the hell do either of those last two require the addition of the word "up" for in order to be understood????? But you hear it in every movie now...

"Awright, men, LISTEN UP!"   

No, shut up... I am willing to listen, but I am not willing to listen up.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 11:20 PM

Oh, here's another beauty:

Guess becomes "guesstimate"!

George Bush is an expert at Newspeak. Just listen (up?) to him.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: JennyO
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 02:52 AM

I've noticed a new one creeping in lately - saying "What do you think to this?" instead of "What do you think of this?"


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 03:03 AM

"Clubbing" - so called "night clubs" are no more than discos!!


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: SharonA
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 03:26 AM

"Don't you think that [insert speaker's bloviated opinion here]???" The implication, of course, is that anyone who disagrees with the speaker must be a drooling idjit and/or the spawn of the devil.

"The problem is, is that [insert problem here]" and similar "is, is" phrases. There is no need for the second "is"!!! Only slightly less annoying is "What the problem is, is that [insert problem here]", which is closer to being grammatically correct but has yet another unnecessary word ("what" as well as the second "is").

One that was in vogue some years ago, when personal computers were newer, is "interfacing", which was used for any sort of person-to-person communication... as in "Let's interface for lunch."

Sports metaphors in a business office setting, especially mixed metaphors. I remember a job review I had once, where the department head told me I needed to "step up to the plate and run with the ball." When I asked her (yes, her) for clarification with regard to my job description and responsibilities, she said nothing except to repeat the baseball-football metaphor, which rendered it even more meaningless than it had been when she said it the first time. I was left to imagine a baseball hitter catching the baseball barehanded as it was thrown over the plate at 100 mph, and running the bases with the ball in his broken hand... and to wonder how such a maneuver would have been scored.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST,Desdemona
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 08:54 AM

"Don't sweat the small stuff."

This ubiquitous platitude really irks me, especially since it's generally uttered by some fatuous nitwit who often goes on to point out that "it's all small stuff." In which case, why not just go back to bed and stop boring everyone else?!

~D


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Alice
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 12:26 PM

"I'm the decider." GW Bush


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Alice
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 12:27 PM

"That's what it's all about, people!!!"
Ty Pennington, repeated about 20 times each
episode of Extreme Home Makeover


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: saulgoldie
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 12:35 PM

Has anyone said "x times MORE than?" What folks really mean is "x times AS MANY as." "X times MORE THAN" is X times the original plus the original. This doesn't mean that much when the number is 100 or some other very large number. But when the original is, say 4, than the difference is between 4 times as many as, which equals 4, and four times MORE THAN, which equals 5. That is a 20% difference. One cannot be sure what the speaker or writer actually meant.

I recognize and don't care that the language is evolving. Evolution is one thing. But some things are just plain stupid or sloppy. Orientate, irregardless, nukular, AARRGGHHH!!!


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 01:23 PM

Hey, folks? Listen up! Don't disunderempower me by misunderestimating me when I guesstimate, because at the end of the day I always give it 110 per cent, know what I mean? Can we run that one up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes? And who's gonna take the ball and run with it? I don't want to see anyone drop the ball! Do you capiche? Do you hear what I'm sayin'? Now I have to go spend some quality time with my significant other. We're gonna do lunch. It'll be a power lunch. Chill, brother. It's all good. (evil grin...)


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 04:07 PM

saulgoldie -

Since you brought up one of my favorite gripes. . .

As you said, 4 times more than is 5 times as much.

There's also the flip side: "10 times smaller than. . ."

Sorry, but once it's one time smaller, it's gone.

With either of these, you never know whether the speaker (or the writer) realizes that (s)he's an idiot, so you have to guess.

Unfortunately, this idiotic construction has been propogated in "public speaking," "media," "debate," "salemanship" and numerous other fields taught by degenerate wannabe (and failing) pseudo-literati on the falsity that "you have to use the emphatic construction and strong words" to be persuasive.

The only thing it persuades me of is:

1. The person using the term is mathematically illiterate, and hence NOTHING THEY SAY CAN BE BELIEVED, or

2. The person using the term is a liar, hoping you'll believe inflated, exaggerated lies, and NOTHING THEY SAY CAN BE BELIEVED, or

3. The person using the term doesn't know the actual comparison intended, and NOTHING THEY SAY CAN BE BELIEVED.

4. The person using the term gave up, goes along with the crowd, has NO OPINIONS of his/her own, and hence NOTHING THEY SAY CAN BE BELIEVED.

Funny how all the possibilities end the same way.

What is astonishing is that this usage crops up quite frequently even in scientific and technical journals where authors, and ESPECIALLY editors, are expected to know the difference, and apparently DON'T.

John


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 04:16 PM

Yeah? Look, John, don't conflate the issue. (whatever the hell "conflate" means...I can't find it in the dictionary, but people seem to keep using it these days when they mean "confuse".)

They also keep saying "infer" when they mean "imply".

If we lived nearer to one another, we could interface at the local coffee shop, spend some quality time together, and arrive at a meeting of hearts and minds over this.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST,Desdemona
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 04:43 PM

LH, I think what I'm hearing you say is that you'd be on board if you could "liase" (AAAAARRRGGGHHH) with John...

~D


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 04:51 PM

LOL! Great example, Desdemona. Mastery of 50 or so key buzzwords and phrases such as "liase" and "run it up the flagpole and see who salutes" is the fast line to success and advancement in the corporate world of today, and it is exactly how I got to be the Supreme Leader of both the Mormons and the Freemasons.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: SharonA
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 05:40 PM

Liase on, brother, liase on.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: autolycus
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 06:59 PM

In radio and telly discussions,

   "Sorry, we've run out of time..."

   and thus,

   "I'm sure we'll return to this topic."

Well if you flaming well keep guillotining the discussion, we're going to HAVE to return to it. Idiots.




       Ivor


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Alice
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 07:13 PM

A phrase my co-workers and I hate "the golden hours" -
as in "the golden hours of selling",
which means, you are expected to do all your paperwork and
preparation on your own time in the evening and on weekends.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 08:17 PM

When I was in the Army at Yuma Proving Ground a lifetime ago, the Commanding Orifice got bored and decided the "staff" needed some training, so he hired a prof from Arizona Western University (a JuCo known locally as "Arizona's Worst College") to come in and teach us all something.

The "staff" - consisting of 26 military and 360 feathermerchants (civil service employees to the uninformed) - were arbitrarily split in half, and I was soooooooo fortunate to be assigned to the first group, which took the classes.

The "perfessor" spent all but approximately one hour of the three months of "classes" trying to get the difference between "effect" and "affect" clarified for the students. I don't think the esteemed professor ever did get it figured out.

At the end of the first group's classes the CO requested an "evaluation" of the course from all those who took it.

I think I was the only one who actually turned anyting in.

I got called in to "debrief" with the CO. We had a nice chat.

Nobody else ever took the course.

John


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 10:01 PM

Did it affect you adversely or have any longlasting effects that were deleterious? How effective would you say the course was in regards to affecting people's nonmilitary affectations and what were the overriding effects of that degree of effectiveness?


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 03:00 AM

"Backbone Data Warehouse".
In the company I work for, this is IT-Bollocks-Speak meaning "I'm saying this because I know you won't have a clue what it means, and I therefore gain an advantage over you".


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Slag
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 03:01 AM

"Head-on, applied directly to the forehead!"
"Next"
"Trust me. I know what I'm doing."
"Read my lips, etc. (you know what I mean).
"You know what I mean."
"You know" endlessly
24/7
7/24
" Oh My Gawd"
"Ohmygod"


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 03:27 AM

"meet with"
"it's been a roller coaster ride"
"put it on an Excel spreadsheet" (being retired means never having to do this ever again!)
"Less" (instead of "fewer")

ete etc

RtS
(the original grumpy old man)


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: goatfell
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 03:57 AM

any phrase that come out of anyone who is PC.

you know what I mean like whatever


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: autolycus
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 09:02 AM

Oh, far more than 'meet with', I really dislike

'meet up with'    -   that's 2 redundant words. What the hell's wrong with    'meet'?   (I'll show you grumpy


   It's ok, I'm fine really.

   it's all these 'up's and 'up with's that get on my wick, e.g.

   'head up the organisation', (come to think of it, it sounds like he has !!)

   All those 'up's and 'up with's are a waste of space/breath.

   And why do people on the meeja have to give the whole year name every time? '"It was on two thousand and five when it began, and now in two thousand and seven......." Why not "oh five" and "oh seven"?

btw, if you have to say it in full, it should be "twenty-oh seven" anyway   :-)


And politicians, and now others, saying "the important thing..........", are pretty smart. Interviewers fall into line with that one. I've yet to hear one say, "Surely there are other important things to consider."


lastly, an overused word, IMO, on this side of the pond, globe and galaxy, is "sorry". I'm as polite as the next person (I hope - depends who the next person is), yet this relentless "sorry".....................well, anyway.




       Ivor


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST,ibo
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 09:08 AM

people who say LIKE all the time,and YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?   it drives me nuts


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: autolycus
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 03:28 PM

When people say,"You know what I mean?",

I reply, "Yes, I know what you mean."





       Ivor


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST,faintingoat
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 03:59 PM

I hate when people destroy the written language. Internet aside (although I do HATE when ppL TyP LiK DisS)I think the world needs to learn that "definitely" is NOT spelled "definately". "Then" and "than" are different words with different meanings. As are "their", "they're", and "there"

Also, you cannot do something "on" accident.

And You do NOT(bold underline italicize) need to ask where someone is AT.

No do you WARSH your clothes (that might just be where I live, but still). Coloring with "ornge crowns" is also "unpossible."


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: The Walrus
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 08:35 PM

One word that irritates me is 'Homophobia'

The trait being described is not HOMOphobia but HETROphobia, a hatred or fear of that which is DIFFERENT - the only people who could commit what are commonly described as 'Homophobic offences against gays and be TRUELY Homophobic are Homosexuals (ditto straights against straights).

HOMO = Same. As in homosexual, homogeneus, homophone, homonym.
HETRO = Different. As in hetrosexual, hetrogenius, hetrodox, hetromorphic.

It's a silly point, but it has a similar effect (to me) as fingernails on a black-board.
Ah well, the term is too deeply dug in for me to be able to do anything about it.

Am I a pedant?

Walrus


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST,Desdemona
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 09:55 PM

Perhaps I should start a whole new "pet punctuation peeves" thread, but one of the things that really, really, really annoys me is the wanton misplacement of the innocent, well-meaning apostrophe, as in "twin lobster's" or--in the specific case of a local landmark that I'm sorely tempted to amend, in an act of guerilla punctuation--"Two Brother's Cafe." It just enrages me.

~D


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Sam L
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 10:47 PM

I've always hated the word "perfect." It never seems the right word for the context. "Screw" is so absurdly wrong I don't know whether to love it or hate it.

But more to the topic I hate when people talk about a "line" between art and life, and how things cross, or "blur" that line.
I think art is a wholly owned subsidiary of life, and to think otherwise means you have a pretty loose grasp on things.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Rowan
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 10:48 PM

"Thank you for sharing that." A number of these are interesting   It's rather unique and I might of replied but I'm disinterested in what you say.
Actually, Walrus, I think you meant "Hetero".


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Slag
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 11:27 PM

Hear, Hear! Here 2 4 it is hetero (my hero!)


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Sam L
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 12:01 AM

I hate "gay marriage." There's no test for gayness. Gay marriage might as well describe a gay man marrying a lesbian, which is perfectly legal. It's same gender marriage, and odds are pretty good that heteros will jump in to undermine the sanctity of it.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 12:08 AM

I get shudders when people say, "Thank you for sharing that"....UGH! It gives me the creeps.

On the one hand, it's really smarmy-sounding and affected, a kind of a New Age expression that is supposed to let everyone know how terrifically broadminded and progressive the person is who just said it. On the other hand I often doubt that they really mean it, because what I think they're really thinking inside is, "God what a bore it was listening to you when we all could have been listening to me instead! Thanks for finally finishing."

Mind you, it also depends on who says it and how they say it. Sometimes it comes across okay. I guess you could say that about most things people say.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Sam L
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 01:40 AM

I'd like to hear a tribal leader say Have your people talk to my people. That would be pretty cute.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 11:44 AM

jewish rabbi


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: goatfell
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 04:09 PM

people who text with short words and some words that they can't spell.

for example
THANX

TOM


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: goatfell
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 04:10 PM


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: goatfell
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 04:11 PM

I know that I'm hopeless at spelling certain words, but I hate these people that uses big long words were a wee short word will do instead


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 04:13 PM

Like when they say, "fornicate in some remote location far away from here" ?


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: HouseCat
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 05:30 PM

"Amazing" and "Awesome". The two most worn-out words on TV, especially on home-improvement shows.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 05:43 PM

Yeah. ;-) What good is awe anymore when it has become as common as the dandelion?


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: The Walrus
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 08:59 PM

"...Actually, Walrus, I think you meant "Hetero"..."

Rowan,

I stand corrected, you are correct, 'Hetero' it is.

My only excuse is that mi triperwriter kan't spel.

Walrus.


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 09:48 PM

I never heard a horse sing it...


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Chanteyranger
Date: 07 Aug 07 - 03:27 AM

There aren't any phrases that get me really irritated. I don't sweat the small stuff (which, come to think of it, is a phrase that might irritate those who are irritated by irritating phrases, making them irritable). The closest one to irritating me is when someone says "conversate," which is a laughable distortion of language.

Chanteyranger


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 07 Aug 07 - 02:27 PM

I work in the "post office" of a university. I've had this conversation many times:

STUDENT: Can you sell me a stamp?
ME: Sure.
STUDENT: Awesome!

Actually, it feels kinda good to be told repeatedly that I do awesome work. Maybe I should be wearing a Superman costume....


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: GUEST,Big Mick in the Badlands of South Dakota
Date: 07 Aug 07 - 03:18 PM

At the end of the day...... One of those good expressions that seems to be so in vogue that you hear it in every conversation. It's like folks look for something they can use and suspend the thought process that decent conversation requires.

Unions were important once, there was a need, but they aren't needed anymore....... Another of the same. Folks just flip it out without thinking it through. Then when I point out the issues of today, as contrasted from when those folks thought unions were important, they get quiet.

AND FINALLY..........

Joe Clones. We are moderators and each of us exercises our own judgment. Joe was the original moderator, and has additional responsibilities, but ultimately we all answer to Max. I am proud to be associated with Joe, and envy his even handedness, but I am not a clone (as used in today's vernacular) of anyone.

All the best,

Mick


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Cluin
Date: 07 Aug 07 - 05:39 PM

When people use the word "ignorant" when the mean obnoxious or rude. ("Don't get ignorant with me!" is the worst).

And also the way the word "terrific" has come to mean a superlative of "good". The root of the word is "terror".


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Subject: RE: what phrases do you hate?
From: Slag
Date: 07 Aug 07 - 08:39 PM

IMO
IMHO
or the other IMHO
A "considered opinion" would be refreshing!


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