Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: open mike Date: 17 Aug 07 - 10:38 PM rumour has it that this year's sea music fest has been pre-empted by a celebrating of an anniversary (100?) of a tug boat at the Hyde Street Pier. shoud be "good thougH" rumour control, any one? Chanty Ranger? Radriano? Melani? |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: Charley Noble Date: 23 Sep 06 - 05:14 PM My favorite door prize for an auction benfiting an energy demonstration house was an actual door, which the proud winner lugged away to his pick-up. Howe about this for next year: A tin of "seaboot duff" A can of "handspike gruel" Autographed by C. Fox Smith, of course! Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: GUEST,Chanteyranger Date: 22 Sep 06 - 07:57 PM No surplus govt property at the giveaways, Joe. They come from my personal budget/closet with an occasional CD donation from a singer, though most of the CD's come from my purchases. That probably makes me the "crazy Eddie" of chanteydom :-). The main idea is to encourage people to learn songs, hear how recorded musicians sing them, and then bring them to the sings. As well as hopefully inspiring them to dig deeper into the traditions for their own knowlege. I started adding other misc. items for the special occasions, saving the juicer and the scanner for the big 25th anniversary sing. I throw in the occasional gag gift, too, just for fun. Chanteyranger |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: Joe Offer Date: 22 Sep 06 - 07:24 PM I have to say that the chantey sing door prizes are just about the dorkiest raffles the world has even seen. It's part of the charm of the chantey sing, though. I wish I had had something like that when I had to get rid of surplus property from MY government office. You know how hard it is to give away an electric typewriter nowadays? I didn't have any juicers or out-of-date scanners to give away when I closed my office - maybe that would have helped. Anyhow, the drawing sure is corny - and it sure is fun. -Joe- |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: GUEST,Melani Date: 22 Sep 06 - 06:26 PM After seeing some of these doorprizes, I really wonder what the inside of Chanteyranger's closet will reveal next! :-) I will try to remember to light an email fire under him from home, but I'm having trouble getting at the computer these days, due to a husband -project that gives him first dibs. |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: GUEST,Gary Keep Date: 22 Sep 06 - 11:20 AM So where are the pictures?? My only complaint is that I never got to hear anyone elses set. Between the 12-1 ex-ranger set with Rev and Peter, our 2-3 dogwatch set and then the 4-5 Closing set the day was over. In between sets all I did was try to get my kids fed and run back and forth to the heads with them. ;) Really wish I could have heard some of other folks sets. And of course my other favorite is pickup sets with others in out of the way spots. A One day festival just went by too fast. Peter, next year maybe we could chip in to pay the parks solar bill so its not so cold and windy, how about moving the festival to a warmer season like mid January? Oh, I almost forgot, there were no Coast Guard Helicopters hovering over us while we sand this year? It just didn't feel the same... Gary |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: GUEST,Rev Date: 21 Sep 06 - 09:43 PM That's right! It was one of those combination scanner/copier/juicer/fax machine/toaster/MP3 player/wine caddy/humidor/rowing machine/DVD-R/GPS/waffle iron/astrolabe units that are so popular these days . . . |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: ClaireBear Date: 21 Sep 06 - 01:26 AM Wait, didn't it juice cabbages and beets as well? |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: GUEST,Jim Date: 20 Sep 06 - 09:37 PM LOL! No, this is one that I've had for some time. Besides, I thought that was just a scanner. |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: GUEST,Rev Date: 20 Sep 06 - 02:29 PM Is that the fabulous printer/flat bed scanner/fax machine that served as the chantey sing door prize? |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: GUEST,Jim Date: 20 Sep 06 - 06:31 AM And if Melani's busy, I can do it, too. I've got an "all in one" printer/flat bed scanner/fax machine. |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: Charley Noble Date: 19 Sep 06 - 07:43 PM Anglo- "260 people, each taking a turn to sing? That's about 3.3 hours for a full revolution @ a modest 3 minutes each." 13 hours? I must have been calulating time by the Ethiopian calendar. I'd like to see some digital pictures as well if someone would post them on a website and provide a link. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: Barry Finn Date: 19 Sep 06 - 02:51 AM PLease do Melani, somewhere we can all see them, please & thanks Barry |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: Melani Date: 18 Sep 06 - 02:17 PM Chanteyranger, I can scan regular photos and post them, if you like. Let me know. |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: Anglo Date: 16 Sep 06 - 02:38 PM Charley Noble said: "260 people, each taking a turn to sing? That's about 3.3 hours for a full revolution @ a modest 3 minutes each. Wow!" Not wishing to be picky, I nonetheless express the hope that Charley never takes up a career as a teacher of arithmetic. |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: Peter Kasin Date: 16 Sep 06 - 03:16 AM It was actually about the same number of local musicians as last year. There was a much larger budget then, so musicians from Europe and from across the country were booked, with music on four stages (this year two stages). Without the musivians from afar it must have seemed like there were more locals. We've got a thriving local sea music community, so it was a very good lineup. I use film, Barry, but if anyone has digital photos, please send them on to the events section. Chanteyranger |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: Barry Finn Date: 15 Sep 06 - 11:51 PM Hey Guys, where's the pictures? Barry |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: GUEST,Rev Date: 15 Sep 06 - 11:25 PM It was a great weekend! I was glad I remembered to dress warmly. Musically and energywise I think it was better than last year. I too like the fact that it was more local musicians. You know with all this Disney Pirates stuff going on I think the time is right for a resurgance of the Bay Area sea music scene. I was impressed at how many people were at the chantey sing for the first time. I hope that next year there's enough of a budget to build on that energy. Great job Chanteyranger! And great job to all the singers and volunteers. See you next year. Cheers, Rev |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: GUEST,Jim Date: 15 Sep 06 - 04:34 AM I've got plans for one! I even made a pentatonic 3-string cookie-tin banjo once (using the dulcimer plans for the neck) but I messed up on the tuners and only two of the strings were playable. Have you seen this link? http://www.ehhs.cmich.edu/~dhavlena/ His $20 hurdy-gurdy looks impressive, and would probably be about right for the Pier. I imagine a lot of sailors made any instrument they might have owned, and it would probably end up looking pretty similar. |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: GUEST,Melani Date: 14 Sep 06 - 04:02 PM Hey, Jim, how about a cardboard dulcimer? |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: GUEST,Chanteyranger Date: 13 Sep 06 - 03:56 PM That's right, Charley. It finally got around to the last person at 5:28am, but he was asleep. We poured buckets of cold water on everyone to signal the end of the sing. *BG* Chanteyranger Nah, we don't do these as a singers circle. It's done "open floor." (or deck) |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: Charley Noble Date: 12 Sep 06 - 10:13 PM 260 people, each taking a turn to sing? That's about 3.3 hours for a full revolution @ a modest 3 minutes each. Wow! Thanks for the details. I would have loved to have been there. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: GUEST,Chanteyranger Date: 12 Sep 06 - 05:37 PM My thanks to all the musicians and volunteers that made this festival the fine day it was. Mudcatters Radriano, Riggy, yrlancslad, Musique174, Rev, and Salty Walt were among the performers. Melani, BillR, and open mike volunteered with various jobs (Melani emceed all the morning acts at the forepier stage), and,as you know ftrom their posts, Joe Offer with his lovely wife, ClaireBear, Sourdough, and Guest Jim and his bandmates were there. The evening chantey sing aboard the ferryboat Eureka,the 25th anniversary of the sing, drew a little over 260 people. Chanteyranger |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: ClaireBear Date: 12 Sep 06 - 01:06 PM Oooh-ah. Perhaps a rommelpot made from a small beer cask...think of the fun removing the liquid from that! (Please DO try the sound link.) |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: open mike Date: 12 Sep 06 - 10:55 AM need help preparing the wine container to receive air (by removing the fluid?) |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: GUEST,Jim Date: 12 Sep 06 - 04:21 AM Melani! What a great idea! I've been itching to try out a home-made bagpipe plan from somewhere on the net using a wine box container for a bladder. Let's do this! I know you may have been joking, but I think it'd be a hoot. |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: Melani Date: 12 Sep 06 - 12:04 AM ...and a good time was had by all. Having only local folk was in no way a hardship for the ears--we've got the best! Thanks, guys! Plus, this year they revived the boat building challenge and race, and it was a total hoot! For those of you who didn't see it, the object is to build a small boat in one day, any design, and then race them at the end of the day. Only one of the three didn't capsize, but that one actually didn't win! (It's legal to swim around the course, towing you craft--or what's left of it.) The one that capsized first won on points. Now maybe an instrument-building contest, and play them at the chantey sing...;-) |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: SunnySister Date: 11 Sep 06 - 12:50 PM Sorry to hear about your losing your voice, Radriano. :( I was planning and looking forward to going but on Friday the cold that I have been fighting with got the better of me and I had to stay home all weekend. I was so looking forward to hearing you and ChanteyRanger. Here's hoping your throat is as good as new and that you'll be in full voice for your next concert. Sending my best, -SunnySister- who will only be singing her woes to her doctor today... would have rather been at the chantey sing :( |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: radriano Date: 11 Sep 06 - 11:52 AM The festival was great fun but my voice starting dropping out during the last part of my set with Chanteyranger. It was a drag because I had to bow out of the big on-stage shanty sing at the end of the festival and, even more disappointing, I missed the shanty sing that evening. I had to opt for going home early and nursing my throat. |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: open mike Date: 11 Sep 06 - 12:46 AM yo ho ho i got to go after all, and enjoyed it all@ the music, the activities, the songs, the food, the singing, the good company, the shanties, the ships, the music, the pier, the music, and the friendship and oh, did i mention the MUSIC?>??!!! i got to Oroville (about a 4 hour drive) in time to play sea shanties for 2 1/2 more hours on my new radio show. I will be on ;the 2nd sunday of each month now. here is the play list. KRBS playlist 091006 Music Along the Feather River 1:00 – 3:00 Laurel Paulson-Pierce www.radiobirdstreet.org Holdstock and Macleod Roll, Alabama, Roll Deepwater Shanties Self |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: Joe Offer Date: 11 Sep 06 - 12:09 AM It's so nice to go to San Francisco and not be a stranger, to see old friends and make new ones - and to make wonderful music. We took one more walk on the pier this morning - when the sun was SHINING! We also had time for a nice chat with Malcolm this morning - much less hectic than yesterday, but without the music. Thanks for all the work you put into this, Peter. Melanie and Malcolm and Radiano and a number of other friends also put in a lot of work. Jim, I understand the park has a budget deficit, and the superintendant is tightening things up. I hope she doesn't shoot herself in the foot with her cutbacks, but I have to say I really liked listening to local talent this year, since they're mostly old friends - maybe it would be good to have out-of-town talent every two or three years, and give the locals the stage otherwise. -Joe- |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: GUEST,Jim Date: 10 Sep 06 - 05:53 AM Also just back from the chanty sing. All in all, a great day. My sea music group wasn't one of the "official" performers, but we showed up and sang anyway, mostly on the Balcutha since there wasn't a stage there this year. I hung out until the sing and boy was it great. Revel was there, bringing back the time I was a newbie at the sings. I saw a bunch of faces in the crowd that I haven't seen in a while. They were all very into it, and the choruses were wonderful -- and I for one needed the help after singing out in the wind all day. It was also nice to put a face to the name of Joe Offer. I'd like to know why the budget seems so limited compaired to years past, but it didn't affect my enjoyment of the day much. Anyway, off to bed. |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: ClaireBear Date: 10 Sep 06 - 04:29 AM Just back from there--yawn--and I had such fun! I really liked the all-local-performers approach that was taken this year. Chanteyranger and Radriano were wonderful (as were many other performers), and somehow in the several years that I've been (mostly) away from the chantey sings, a whole new crop of material -- and singers -- has developed, a thing very cheering to my soul. Note to self: must learn some new chanteys... Plus, I got to meet the debonaire Joe Offer (along with several other Catters of renown), chat with Yrlancslad and Open Mike, and snuggle between Riggy and Radriano for the Mudcat photo op. All in all, quite the perfect day, Now, must sleep. TTFN Claire |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: Greg B Date: 10 Sep 06 - 12:27 AM >I give up, Greg - what took place during the singing of that song? I'd stomp out. Right over everybody, from the center of the keelson, much to the amusement of many and the horror of some. Out and up the ladder. Now...I can't stand the damned thing. Don't know why, but I can't. And it started getting round that I couldn't. But the REAL reason I stomped off was because it was the only way *I* could get a break. During the "break", because I kind of played second fiddle to Celeste, everyone and anyone who wanted to talk about what was going on would 'pigeonhole' me which meant I got to neither piss nor get some of Alice's cider to lubricate my larynx. So what was *really* happening was that I was 'holding the fort' during the break (and re-starting the sing at the end of the break, once Celeste got back from said liquid pursuits) and then taking MY break during the song I 'hated.' It just sort of evolved that way as a running joke. At some point I figured that it was easier to get out that way for a break in the 4-hour program than it was to try and 'sneak' out from 'center stage' which was impossible. If anyone remembers the antics of Derek Bell when he was with the Chieftains (rest his soul) it was that sort of thing. Greg |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: ClaireBear Date: 09 Sep 06 - 12:25 PM I managed to talk my six-year-old into going, so I'll see you in a couple of hours -- hooray! Claire |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: Barry Finn Date: 08 Sep 06 - 01:58 PM How 'bout you guys out there just record they whole thing, audio & visual, then with a link here send us all to a site where we can almost be there. Ok, how's about a few pictures then? Have a great time, wish I could be there to enjoy, it's such a great weekend. Barry |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: GUEST,Chanteyranger Date: 08 Sep 06 - 01:44 PM It's tomorrow! Weather forecast is for cloudy and windy. Dress warmly, as you would on a ship :-). Celeste couldn't get away from her park superintendent responsibilities at New Bedford, but will be there in spirit. As for what we'll do at the "The Chantey Sing Rangers" set, Rev, I thought we'd start with "Moon River," then move into "I'm Going To Wash That Man Right Out Of My Hair," "Raindrops Keep Falling On My Heas," "Surfin' USA," .....(Rev, Gary Keep and I will actually have a "whole shipload" of chanteys and a few forebitters, favorites sung at the chantey sings over the years). It promises to be a alot of fun for kids as well, so bring the family. Kids crafts, music, lots of hands-on activities. Check the website Joe provided. Thanks, Joe. The program flyer that will be handed out lists the evening chantey sing as happening aboard the sailing ship Balclutha, its normal home until the Thayer's return. The sing will actually be aboard the ferryboat Eureka. See you there, 'Catters! Chanteyranger |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: GUEST,Rev Date: 04 Sep 06 - 07:03 PM Hey Chanteyranger! Is Celeste going to be there? We should talk about what songs we want to do for our Chantey Sing Rangers set. Give me a call this week sometime. Can't wait to see you and everyone there! Rev |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: Joe Offer Date: 04 Sep 06 - 11:57 AM I give up, Greg - what took place during the singing of that song? Looks like the Festival of the Sea Website is now ready and has information here (click) -Joe- |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: Greg B Date: 21 Aug 06 - 02:22 PM Okay, chanteysingers, here's a bit of trivia (hints above). Between 1989 and 1992, 'John Kanaka' was always sung close after the first 'break.' What took place during the singing of that song? |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: Greg B Date: 21 Aug 06 - 11:46 AM Anglo, you underestimate the ability of NPS employees to get pissy and petty and to respond by fouling up somebody's job (or worse) in the face of any sort of real or imagined or concocted conflict of interest. Peter is right to choose other outlets for his recordings. In an ideal world it would not be so, but this is the world we have to work with. |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: Anglo Date: 21 Aug 06 - 10:55 AM Well, if I were promoting a sea song CD (and hopefully I will be soon!), I would certainly try to place it at the SF Maritime Store whoever I was. I see no conflict of interest in you doing that, Chanteyranger, in fact I think you do your community a disservice if you don't. |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: open mike Date: 21 Aug 06 - 06:36 AM re-fresh...this will happen just a week and a half before Sept. 19 which is Talk Like a Pirate Day! |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: open mike Date: 13 Aug 06 - 02:01 AM there is a chance i might change my radio show to sunday in which case i will be able to come to the sea music fest. if i am able to come, when is the deadline to sign up? I was a stage manager last year, and would possibly be avaialbe to do that job again, or whatever is needed. I would like to know if there are berths available on board for over night. i will keep you posted. Laurel |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: Peter Kasin Date: 12 Aug 06 - 12:49 AM Hi, Jim. I keep my CD sales/promotion completely separate from my job, so you didn't miss any announcement at the sing. They are not sold at the festival or at any other time in the Maritime Store. To renew your membership, just go to "reset cookie" from the menu. It just takes a few seconds.....or maybe your computer is not responding to that? Chanteyranger |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: GUEST,JimP Date: 11 Aug 06 - 10:10 PM Hey, I volunteer every year, too! I just can't seem to be able to keep my cookie intact, so I just post as "Guest". Anyway, Chantyranger & Radriano, what's the deal with releasing a new album and not telling us chanty sing regulars? (Of course, with me being out at the gate every month at 9:00, I suppose that its possible you did announce it and I just didn't get the message. Congratulations on the CD. The parts I can hear on CD Baby sound great. Will you have copies at the Plow on Sunday to sell?
-Joe Offer- joe@mudcat.org |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: GUEST,Chanteyranger Date: 11 Aug 06 - 02:47 PM I'll post a link to the festival website when it is completed. We're separate from Golden Gate NRA, so it will be a different site than theirs. I'll pass your greetings on to Dick and Allan. Chanteyranger |
Subject: RE: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: open mike Date: 11 Aug 06 - 02:21 PM how about a link to former threads about this? and the national park web site (golden gate )? the search engine does not seem to find them... i found some but not from 2002, 2004 or 2005 good luck with all..wish i could join you again, but i have a radio show to do. I will play some nautical (not naughty) music there for you! Tell Holdstock and Macleod that Laurel says hello... I opened for them in Oregon last weekend! sing hearty, me boys (and girls) here is the former thread on this 2006 fest http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=93337 and from 2003--http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=57294#919199 http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=57294#946040 here is one thread on the event form 2001--the 20th anniversary of it. http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=39633#562859 |
Subject: SF Festival of the Sea, 9/9/06 From: GUEST,Chanteyranger Date: 11 Aug 06 - 01:38 PM Saturday, September 9, San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park celebrates its annual Festival of the Sea, at Hyde Street Pier on SF's Fisherman's Wharf, 10am-5pm. We're known as "America's floating national park." There'll be Living History shipboard demonstrations, a boatbuilding competition, maritime library book sale, theatre, kids crafts, storytelling, iron forging demos plus other events, and sea music performed by Bay Area musicians on two stages. Information: 415-447-5000. At 8pm we will celebrate the 25th anniversary of the park's monthly chantey sing! The sing will be held aboard the historic ferryboat Eureka (normally it's held aboard a sailing ship, but the ferry can accomodate the larger than usual numbers anticipated). The sings began in the late 70's, intermittently, and then became a regulasr park sponsored propgram in 1981. Ranger Dave Nettell was present at the creation and ran the sings until 1989. The other rangers hosting it: Celeste Bernardo (1989-92), Revell Carr (1992-96, who will be here from SoCal, performing during the day as well) and myself (1996-present). Rangers Gary Keep (1980's, also performing in the Dogwatch Nautical Band) and Kathy Daskal (2002-present) assist. The heart and soul of the sings, though, are the hundreds of participants who have kept and continue to keep alive the singing traditions of sailors, stevedores, and fishermen. The chantey sing is free, but reservations required. To reserve space at thr sing, please call 415-561-7171, or email peter_kasin@nps.gov. Volunteers are needed for variety of tasks, including instrument check (half hour shifts), gate greeters, cook assistants (for the evening volunteer/performer/staff meal), and various other logistical tasks as needed. If you'd like to volunteer, please call Terry Dorman, volunteer coordinator, at 415-556-1613, or email terry_dorman@nps.gov. Here's the performance schedule: Mid-Pier Stage 12:00 The Chantey Sing Rangers 1:00 Live Oakes Theatre 2:00 Dogwatch Nautical Band 3:00 Holdstock and Macleod 4:00 Finale (all hands) Children's Stage 10:30 Don Clark and Michele Delattre 11:00 Robert Rodriquez (NYC), storytelling 11:30 Sons of the Buccaneers 12:00 Nathalie Reginster 12:30 Skip Henderson and The Starboard Watch 1:00 Salty Walt 1:30 Robert Rodriquez, storytelling 2:00 Peter Kasin and Richard Adrianowicz 2:30 Kathryn Daskal 3:00 Revell Carr 3:30 Malcolm Rigby and Riggy Rackin Eureka 3:00 Live Oakes Theatre 8:00 Chantey Sing Balclutha Living History Demos, w/ chanteys 10:15 Pumps 10:30 Capstan 11:00 Sail Raise Mudcatters Radriano, Riggy,Lancslad, Musique174, Rev, and Salty Walt, and myself are among the performers, and Melani and BillR are among the volunteers. Hope to see other Mudcatters there. Let's meet by the Md-Pier stage at 5pm for a group Mudcat photo, eh? Chanteyranger |
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