Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: Azizi
Date: 03 Sep 09 - 11:34 PM

Thanks for sharing that example, GUEST,LM.

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I'd like to take this opportunity to say that I think that all of these examples are important to collect for historical and folkloric reasons. But I want to go on record and say that I'm very much against referring to any person as a "fag"-whether that person is indeed a homosexual or you just think that person is a homosexual.

Words can hurt. Please be mindful of that.

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: GUEST,LM
Date: 03 Sep 09 - 11:15 PM

Down by the riverside, hanky panky
Where the bullfrogs jump from bank to banky
saying ees mees sauce sees
esa meesa ding dong
your momma smells like king kong
I pledge of allegience to the flag
michael jackson is a fag
coca cola burnt him up
now we're drinking 7up
7up has no caffeine now we're drinking gasoline
gasoline ran out of fuel
now we're drinking mountain dew

Ugh I wish I remembered the rest!
But this was probably around 1998-99 at a crappy YMCA

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: GUEST,omg
Date: 28 Aug 09 - 06:30 PM

Down by the river of hanky panky
The bullfrog jumps from bank to banky
Now E I O U
your momma stinks and so do you
no ding dong, ping pong
ur daddy smells like king kong
on his feet and on his toes
your daddy wears pink panty hoes
coca cola shake it up
now we're talking 7up
7up has no caffeine
now we're talking Billy Jean
Billy Jean is lots of fun
now we're slapping hands and DONE!

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: GUEST,AUDREEEY
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 11:54 PM

down by the banks were the hanky panks and the bull frogs jump from bank to bank saying e i o u your momma stinks and so do you, i pledge alligence to the flag, michael jackson is a fag. coca cola brought him up now we're talking 7 up, 7 up has no cafffine now we're drinking gasoline gasoline gave me the flu now we're drinking moutain dew, moutain dew fell off a mountain now we're drinking water foutain, water fountain turned to soap now we're drinking cherry coke, cherry coke broke my wrist now we're drinking sierra mist. sierra mist hadda fall. NOW WE'RE DRINKING NOTHING AT ALL.


dooodes, i accidentally fucked it up.
I FORGOT THE WATER FOUNTAIN.
but legit thats how we do it old school. :D

HAHAHA/

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: GUEST,AUDDDRAY.
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 11:51 PM

down by the banks were the hanky panks and the bull frogs jump from bank to bank saying e i o u your momma stinks and so do you, i pledge alligence to the flag, michael jackson is a fag. coca cola brought him up now we're talking 7 up, 7 up has no cafffine now we're drinking gasoline gasoline gave me the flu now we're drinking moutain dew, moutain dew turned to soap now we're drinking cherry coke cherry coke broke my wrist now we're drinking sierra mist. sierra mist hadda fall. NOW WE'RE DRINKING NOTHING AT ALL.


ROFL. chyeaaa (:

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: GUEST,Taryn and Maddie
Date: 09 Jul 09 - 08:17 PM

Down by the banks of the hanky panky
Where the bull frogs jump from bank to bank
singin' Eeeps ipes opes oops
silly will ding dong
I pleage aligence to the flag
Michal Jackson makes me gag
Pepsi cola burt my butt
Now were talkin' 7 up
7 up has no caffine
now were talkin billy jean
Billy Jean is out of sight
now were talkin dynomite
dynomite blew up the school
Now were talkin' really cool
10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: Azizi
Date: 02 Jul 09 - 07:36 PM

Thanks to those who have posted examples to this thread.

**

It's interesting that one way that Michael Jackson's name may live on is through these children's rhymes.

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: GUEST,Jean
Date: 02 Jul 09 - 07:12 PM

As kids, we always sang it like this (I'm a teenager now):

Down by the banks of the hanky panky
Where the bullfrogs jump from bank to banky
Singin' eep, opp, eep opp opp
Skittle, dittle kernel pop
I pledge allegience to the flag
Michael Jackson is a fag
Coca Cola has caffeine
Now we're drinking gasoline
Gasoline ran out of fuel
Now we're drinkin' mountain dew
Mountain dew fell off the mountain
Now we're drinkin' from the fountain
Finally the fountain broke
Now we're back to
Plain old...
COKE!

And on coke the one person who was next to slap would try to hit the other's hand, and the other could pull away. If they pulled away the person slapping is eliminated, and if their hand gets slapped they are eliminated.

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Jul 09 - 02:19 PM

DOwn by the banks where the i dont know i like pie

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: GUEST,Alicia
Date: 26 Jun 09 - 03:01 PM

P.S. this was in Arizona

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: GUEST,Alicia
Date: 26 Jun 09 - 03:00 PM

The version I grew up with in the 90's was:

(you stand in a circle with one hand on top of the others and slap the next persons hand as it goes around the circle while you sing)

Down by the banks of the Hanky Panky
Where the Bullfrogs jumped from bank to banky
With the eips ipes opes skiddle scaddle ding dong

we would sing that to pick the person who would stand in the middle for another rhyme:

I was going to Kentucky
The old Kentucky fair
When i met a seniorita with purple underwear
OH shake it to the bottom(go down)
Shake it to the top(come back up)
Spin around, spin around(spin around with eyes closed)
Till you S-T-O-P spells stop

The person you were pointing at would be the next person to start and we would sart all over again.

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: Azizi
Date: 11 Jun 09 - 08:04 PM

GUEST,Michaela, thanks for sharing that version of "Down by the banks of the Hanky Panky.

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: GUEST,Michaela
Date: 11 Jun 09 - 06:05 PM

Down by the banks to the hanky panky
where the bull frogs jump from banks to banks
with the eeps ipes opes ops listen to the kerplop.
I pledge allegience to the flag
Michael Jackson sings so bad
Pepsi Cola burned his butt
Now he's drinking Seven up
7 up has no caffine
now he's drinking gasoline
Gasoline has no good taste
now he's drinking toxic waste.

That's all I really know.

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: Azizi
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 07:47 PM

Hi, GUEST 03 Jun 09 - 07:07 PM

I didn't know that this rhyme was known in Melbourne, Australia. Thanks for sharing your version and info about your geographical location.

I'm interested in knowing who sang it (age group, gender) and whether it was sung as a partner or circle handclap rhyme or both.

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 07:07 PM

Okay here in Melbourne, Australia
I've always sung it
'Down by the banks of the hanky panky
where the bullfrogs jump from bank to banky
With a hip, hop, crackle and a pop
With a hip, hop, crackle and a pop
With an A, E, I, O, You are out'

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: Azizi
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 12:37 PM

GUEST,LINDSEY, thanks for sharing how you and your friends play "Down by the banks of the hanky panky".

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: GUEST,LINDSEY
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 09:44 PM

its the whole sit in a circle with the hand thing(a large circle) and whoever gets powed is out, and you keep going.

Down by the banks of the hanky panky
where the bull frogs jump from bank to banky singin
E-a-pap-a, I-a-pap-a, O-a-pap-a
POW!!!!!!

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: Azizi
Date: 06 May 09 - 07:30 PM

GUEST,brooklyn, thanks for sharing your version of this rhyme with us.

-Ms. Azizi

Subject: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: GUEST,brooklyn
Date: 06 May 09 - 05:27 PM

down by the river where he hanky panky where the bull-frog jump from bank to bank sing aeiouing now we are tlaking micheal jackson coke-cola shot him down doctor peper shop him up now we are talking 7 up!!

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: Azizi
Date: 29 Apr 09 - 07:43 AM

Jim Dixon, thanks for that interesting information about an early source for "Pudding and tame".   I took the liberty of reposting it on this Mudcat thread:
Folklore: Puddin Tane & Other Rhyming Sayings as I think that people who might read that thread might be interested in reading that information too.

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Hello to Guest 6 Apr 09 - 10:35 AM, Guest 20 Apr 09 - 07:20 PM and GUEST,345!
Thanks for sharing the versions of this rhyme that you know.

Guest 345, I'm particularly interested in your version because I've not read or heard that part about "7 up a double these now im talkin beligue 7up a double threes i said i do i didnt didnt dong didnt do i said i do i didnt didnt dong didnt do 1,2,3 base on me"

-snip-

I'd really appreciate it if you could post some demographical information such as where you learned this (city, state if in the USA, city/country if outside of the USA), when (year, decade such as the late 1990s), who (gender/s, ages, and race/ethnicity of those who performed this rhyme) and category (for instance, is this a circle/group hand clap rhyme or is it a partner-two people hand clap rhyme?)

Also I'd appreciate it if you would tell us what "1,2,3 base on me" means.

Thanks!

Ms. Azizi

PS: To all guests who post on this thread (and any other Mudcat thread), membership is free and easy to do. Just click on that membership feature near the top right hand corner of this page and follow the steps that show up on that page. One benefit of membership is that you can keep track of all of your postings on this forum (Guest 3,4,5-I think I recently read another post of yours but I can't remember what thread it was in. Thanks for that one too!) Another benefit of Mudcat membership is that you can exchange private electronic messages with other members. That's what that PM in the comment headings mean.

I hope you all decide to join Mudcat!

Best wishes,

Azizi

Subject: down by the riverside
From: GUEST,345
Date: 28 Apr 09 - 04:47 PM

this is how it go:down by the riverside siad a hanky panky said bull frog jump frog yo mama stanky said a A-E-I-O-U BAM BOO micheal jackson went to town coke cola shot him down 7 up a doulbe these now im talkin beligue 7up a double threes i said i do i didnt didnt dong didnt do i said i do i didnt didnt dong didnt do 1,2,3 base on me

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Apr 09 - 07:20 PM

Short Version:
Down by the banks of the hanky panky
Where the bullfrogs jump from bank to bank
Where the eeps, ops, sodapops
Hey Mr. Willie and he went ker-plops

Long Version:
Down by the banks of the hanky panky
Where the bullfrogs jump from bank to bank
Where the eeps, ops, sodapops
Hey Mr. Willie and he went ker-plops
With a cherry on top
Here come the animals two-by-two
Hippopotamous and Kangaroo
Kaboo Kaboo
Hippopotamous and Kangaroo

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Apr 09 - 10:35 AM

West london , i was thinking of this song for some odd reason from when i was like 7 (17 now) and i remember it going.

Down by the river near hanky panky where the two fat frogs sit bank to banky with a oooh ah oooh ah pick a number right now.


game of some sort?

Also heard a rude one before:

Down near the river near the bank banky where the two fat frogs have hanky panky...somthing like that o.0

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 11 Apr 09 - 05:39 PM

The quote from McDougal reminds me of a parallel smart-alecky reply:

"What's your name?" – "Puddentain. [However you spell it.] Ask me again, I'll tell you the same."

I learned that from a "Little Rascals/Our Gang" comedy that was shown on TV when I was a kid in the 1950s. (Who said it? Stymie?)

– but it goes back at least to –

From The Beulah Spa (a play) by Charles Dance (London: John Miller, 1833):

MAG. ... What is her name?

HEC. Pudding and tame—if you ask me again I shall tell you the same.

(Sorry for the thread creep.)

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: Azizi
Date: 11 Apr 09 - 05:21 PM

Jim Dixon, those are great finds!

I'm not sure if I reposted this example on this thread or not.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Way Down Yonder on Beaver Creek
From: GUEST,Sharon oehler - PM
Date: 28 Feb 05 - 04:52 PM

Way down yonder in the Piankatank
A bullfrog jumped from bank to bank
He skinned his leg from shank to shank
Way down yonder in the Piankatank

The Piankatank is a river in Virginia that runs to the Cheasepeake Bay
Song a legend in those parts

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Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 11 Apr 09 - 05:07 PM

From The Long Roll (a novel) by Mary Johnston, with illustrations by N. C. Wyeth (Boston: Houghton Mifflin Company, 1911):

Being largely Valley of Virginia Virginians, Louisianians, Georgians, Texans, and North Carolinians, the army had acquaintance slight or none with the country through which it was passing. Gordonsville left behind, unfamiliarity began. "What's this county? What's that place over there? What's that river? Can't be the Potomac, can it? Naw, 'taint wide enough!"—"Gentlemen, I think it is the Rappahannock."—"Go away! it is the headwaters of the York."—"Rapidan maybe, or Rivanna."—"Probably Pamunkey, or the Piankatank,

Where the bullfrogs jump from bank to bank."

From Recollections, 1844-1909 (autobiography) by Henry Clay McDougal (Kansas City, Mo.: Franklin Hudson Publishing Co., 1911)

She was born and reared down in the tide-water country of Virginia, and in that part of the footstool, away back in Colonial days, when the planter did not wish to disclose his exact location, or the human interrogation point propounded the inquisitive question, he had the answer: "From Pianketank (sic), where the bullfrogs jump from bank to bank."

From Wikipedia:

The Piankatank River is a river in the United States state of Virginia. Located on the Middle Peninsula, between the Rappahannock and York Rivers, it was the site of numerous actions during the American Civil War.

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: Azizi
Date: 08 Apr 09 - 06:09 PM

Wow! "Michael Jordan went to town"-that's the first time I read that version.

Thanks for sharing that GUEST,Jenny.

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: GUEST,Jenny
Date: 08 Apr 09 - 05:55 PM

Here is the one
I know:

Down by the banks of the hanky Panky
where the bullfrogs jump from bank to bank
with an a e i o u
Michael jordan went to town
coca cola shot him down
Mountain dew shot him up
now were talkin 7 up
7 up has no cafene
now were talkin billie jean
billie jean went down the street singin
doo a dilly dilly dum dilly do
singin do a dilly dily dum dilly do


That is the version that I know...

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: Azizi
Date: 07 Apr 09 - 09:40 AM

GUEST 07 Apr 09 - 01:08 AM , thanks for sharing that example here. I really appreciate your comments as they add another perspective about the "pledge allegiance rhyme that hadn't occcurred to me.

Guest, I am going to take the liberty of reposting your comment on this Mudcat thread Homophobia In Playground Rhymes as I believe it adds to the consideration of that topic.

Thanks again, and also I appreciate your inclusion of demographical information.

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Apr 09 - 01:08 AM

The version that I learned as a child (Arizona in the 1980s) were:

Down by banks of the hanky panky
where the bullfrog jumps from bank to banky
With a hip, hip, hip, hop
He jumps from a lilypad --
KERPLOP

This was sung, so it was likely taught to us by adults at summer camp.

My friends and I also had variants of the other rhymes, but they were separate:

Coca-cola went to town
Pepsi Cola shot him down
Doctor Pepper fixed him up
And now we're drinking Seven-up
(sung to the tune of Yankee Doodle)

and the rhyme in question:
I pledge allegiance to the flag, Michael Jackson is a fag.

That was 1985 give or take a year. The version I knew from childhood did not include the line about little toys or little boys. I believe this predates the sex scandals. Rather, the faggotry in question was his wearing a white glove, prancing on stage, and grabbing his crotch. I distinctly recall that none of my friends knew what a fag was, but Michal Jackson grabbing his crotch was a sources of considerable discussion.

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: Azizi
Date: 05 Apr 09 - 12:05 PM

Thanks, hiroko for sharing your school's version. If you check back here, it would be great if you could add the city/state your school is in and when (year or decade) you said this rhyme and if it was a hand clap rhyme or not.

I'm asking people to include that information because I'm trying to see if there are similarities or differences that could be documented with how this rhyme is said and performed in different parts of the USA or elsewhere and whether there are differences between the rhymes at different times.

Thanks!

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: GUEST,hiroko
Date: 05 Apr 09 - 10:29 AM

at my school it goes like this. (some lyrics are missing, though)

Down by the river of the hanky panky
where bullfrogs jump from bank to banky
say a,e,i,o,u
old lady said "ding dong"
Yo mama smell like king kong
michael jackson came to town
coca cola brought him down (note: him is michael jackson)
coca cola brought him up
now we're talkin' seven up
seven up has no caffiene
now we're talking billie jean
billie jean (is) insane at night
now we're talkin' dynamite
dynamite blew up the school
now we're talkin' really cool

and that's all I know. :)

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: Azizi
Date: 04 Apr 09 - 01:20 PM

GUEST Graywolf, thanks for sharing your version of this rhyme.

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: GUEST,Graywolf
Date: 04 Apr 09 - 01:14 PM

When i was a child it was


down by the banks of the hanky banky
where the bullfrogs jump from bank to bank
singin eeps, ipes, ops, oopsopop and a soda pop!
pepsi cola gingerale, gingerale, gingerale, gingerale, gingerale,
pepsi cola gingerale, 7up! 7up! 7up! your OUT!

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: Azizi
Date: 31 Mar 09 - 12:19 PM

GUEST,Momo, thanks for sharing the version of this rhyme that you know.

As to your comment asking if your version is "correct" or "right", let me say this:

We may think that a rhyme has the wrong words because those words are different from the way we learned it. We may think that the way other people do (play) that rhyme is different because it's not the same way we learned it. But when it comes to playground rhymes, there is no right version or wrong version.

When it comes to children's playground rhymes, people can talk about whether they correctly remember the version that they heard or saw or read. And people can talk about whether a version of a rhyme is like or is different from the earliest version of that rhyme that was collected and written down or recorded.

And although people can say that the way they learned that playground rhyme is the only right way to say it, hopefully the more people read so many different versions of one rhyme on the Internet and elsewhere, they'll realize that playground rhymes don't have anything to do with right and wrong words.

Best wishes,

Ms. Azizi

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: GUEST,Momo
Date: 30 Mar 09 - 11:36 PM

I dont think those are correct. My friend says:


Down by the banks of the hanky panky
where the bull frogs jump from bank to banky
And the eeps opps soda pops!
And frog had a baby
KER-PLOP!


Is that right?

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: Azizi
Date: 13 Mar 09 - 02:04 AM

Guest, Uly, thanks for sharing your memory of that song.

That version is a variant form of the song "Way down yonder on the Yankety-Yank" that is found in the Pete Seegar story The Foolish Frog

See these two comments from this Mudcat thread Way Down Yonder on Beaver Creek

Subject: RE: Way Down Yonder on Beaver Creek
From: GUEST,Ellen - PM
Date: 12 Feb 04 - 11:14 AM

"The Foolish Frog" was told to Pete Seeger by his father, according to PETE SEEGER'S STORYTELLING BOOK by Pete Seeger and Paul Dubois Jacobs, Harcourt, Inc. copyright 2000. I'm looking for the tune.
Shalom,
Ellen

-snip-

and

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Way Down Yonder on Beaver Creek
From: GUEST,Sharon oehler - PM
Date: 28 Feb 05 - 04:52 PM

Way down yonder in the Piankatank
A bullfrog jumped from bank to bank
He skinned his leg from shank to shank
Way down yonder in the Piankatank

The Piankatank is a river in Virginia that runs to the Cheasepeake Bay
Song a legend in those parts

-snip-

These comments suggest that the "Hanky Panky" rhymes are a part of the very very old family of songs which include the still widely known "Frog Went A Courtin'" song and the song (or a chorus of Frog Went A Courtin') "Keemo Kimo".

Thanks again, Guest Uly, for reminding me to post that information in this thread.

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: GUEST,Uly
Date: 12 Mar 09 - 09:38 PM

The first I ever heard this rhyme - and I've seen a number of versions in a very short time since! - was in a Mother Goose book I got for my nieces, where it runs

Way down yonder on the the Piankitank
Where the bullfrog leaps from bank to bank
And skins his knee from shank to shank
Way down yonder on the Piankitank

It's so different from the other versions I've seen, but I'm sure it's related! The book was first published in... oh, I think the 40s or 50s.

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: Azizi
Date: 11 Mar 09 - 10:36 PM

Thanks for sharing your version, Guest, Samantha!

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: GUEST,samantha
Date: 11 Mar 09 - 10:01 PM

Down by the bank of a hankey pankey where the bullfrog jumps from bak to bakey i said a eats side west side east a west side east a west side dily ding dong why u hit my hand so hard tell me wat i did so worng east side west side east a west side east a west side diley ding dong

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: GUEST,raven
Date: 11 Mar 09 - 04:02 PM

we sing



down in the valley of Hhe Pankey Pankey
oops i said your booty stankey,oots iets,skit skat,big fat dirty rat
i plege alligance to the flag, micael jackson is a fag. pepsi cola blew it up, now its time for seven up,seven up saw somthin cooler,now were dringing mountain dew, mountain dew ate a shew and got the flu, now we are living with dew dew in our system.

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: GUEST,:) LaLaLaLaLaLaLaLa
Date: 06 Mar 09 - 02:11 PM

Down by the banks of the Hanky Panky where the bull frogs jump from bank to banky. Eeps oops orbs skittle diddle kur plops.

1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10 I pledge alliegence (Sp.) to the flag, Michael Jackson makes me gag.

Pepsi Cola blew up now were drinkin seven up. Seven up caught the flu now were drinkin Mountin Dew. Mountain Dew fell of the mountain now were drinkin from a fountain. Fountain broke now were drinkin plain old DIET COKE!

--

That's the one I've always known. We sing it in New York.

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: Azizi
Date: 27 Feb 09 - 11:09 PM

Thank you to all members and guests who have posted examples of this rhyme on this thread. I think that all of these examples are cool. (with the exceptions of the ones that I think were posted by spammers, and with the exception of the homophobic references that I really don't like).

As a matter of fact, I think that these rhymes are so cool that I've been spending a good deal of time lately editing a book on "Hanky Panky" rhymes for this thread and from other sources.

In addition to a lot of examples of this rhyme, this book will include a glossary of terms (slang and otherwise) that are found in these rhymes and other contemporary Rnglish language playground rhymes.

This book will also include "brief" editorial comments about these Hanky Panky rhymes-their structurally patterns, the floating verses that are found in many of these rhymes, the possible sources for some of the verses and phrases in these rhymes, as well as the significance of chidren's rhymes immortalizing an actual occurance and -consciously or unconsciously providing commentary about a public figure (all of these things that people who really "do" these rhymes may not be at all interested in, but which I am, and hopefully others are quite interested in).

When this book is published, I'll announce it in this thread.

Thanks again!

Azizi Powell

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: GUEST,SOUR Skittles #1
Date: 27 Feb 09 - 09:59 PM

i learned this at my friends birthday party
it was sooo fun!!
down by the bank of the hanky pank where the bullfrogs jump from bank to bank sayin
fe
fi
fo
foam
mi sa mi sa ding dang dong
i pledge alligance 2 the flag that micheal jackson is my dad pepsi cola burnt him up now were talking 7 up
7 up has no caffine now were talkin billy jean
billy jean went out of sight now were talkin dynomite
dynomite blew up the school now were talkin really cool
10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 mickey mouse built a house donald duck messed it up who will pay the consequinces Y-O-U spells you!!

cool huh??

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: GUEST,ruby01
Date: 23 Feb 09 - 09:03 PM

theres another one that goes like this that i learned in SEA CAMP!



down by the bank of
the hanky panky were
the bullfrogs jump
from bank to banky
singing eeps, oops
soda pops jonny broke
the bottle and it went
Ker-polp!

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: GUEST,Becca
Date: 20 Feb 09 - 05:22 AM

I live in Melbourne Australia, and during the 90's I was also taught this version:

Down by the banks of the Hanky Panky
Where the bullfrogs jump from bank to banky
With an A, E, I, O, U (you), R (are), out!

It was a two person clap, that was quite complex with up, down hand motions and hand slapping, it also finished with hitting the other person on the head or chest, depending on how much you liked that other person, of course.

Until I read this post I had never heard of it done in a circle, it was also a school yard thing, never a taught/practiced in class experience.

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: GUEST,Tre'
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 08:46 PM

In St Louis this was our version when I was growing up


Down by the river to the hanky pank
No bulldog jumps from bank to bank
Old lady said ding dong
Your mama smell like king kong
Your daddy smell like donkey kong
Eastside
Westide
Ding
Dang
Dong

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: Azizi
Date: 10 Jan 09 - 05:25 PM

Hello, GUEST,this is what my little sister told me it was.

Congratulations for posting the first example of this rhyme for 2009!

Your little sister's example combines the Down by the Banks {Riverside}/Hanky Panky rhyme with lines from "Johnny Got A Whipping/Ha Ha Ha" rhyme and lines from "Miss Mary Mack".

That's an interesting combination.

Best wishes,

Ms. Azizi

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: GUEST,this is what my little sister told me it was
Date: 10 Jan 09 - 05:17 PM

down by the riverside and hanky pankey where the bull frogs jump from bank to back singing A E I O U bam boo.. johney drop a bottle and it landed on you so ma told pa pa told ma johney got a wippen so ha ha ha he jumped so high he toughed the sky and didnt come back till the forth of july

Subject: RE: Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
From: Azizi
Date: 20 Dec 08 - 10:42 AM

In re-reading this thread, I see that Guest 12/15/2007 10:30 PM
posted an example of "Down By The Banks of the Hanky Panky" that includes the "see the house on the hill" line.

Maybe including these lines in "Down By The Banks..." is more common than I thought.