Lyr Req: Shanties

Subject: Lyr Req: Shanties
From: fi_in_nz
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 10:17 AM

Hi there - I'm looking for the lyrics and origins of a couple of Shanties. Below are extracts from each of them:
1.
Blow today and blow tomorrow
Heave away boys, haul away boys
Haul on the halliard stamp and go
2.
Heave yer ho boys
Let her go boys
Swing her landward and haul together
Let her go boys
Sailing homeward to Dingle Bay (or something like that ;-)

I'd be really greatful if anyone knows either of these songs, I'm trying to collect some new ones to introduce to the shanty fraternity in Auckland. Cheers F
PS I bet they're on digitrad somewhere, I have looked but can't find.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Shanties
From: Kevin Sheils
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 10:20 AM

The second appears to be the Mingulay Boat Song it's in DT search for mingulay

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Shanties
From: GUEST,HP
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 10:24 AM

The first is 'Stamp & Go', written by Graham Moore. Also recorded by 'Four 'n' Aft on 'Running Free'.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Shanties
From: Greg B
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 11:03 AM

And the first looks like a bunch of standard
'chanteyman speak' couplets have been strung
together. Wouldn't be surprised if 'bully boys'
appears somewhere in the rest of it!

Subject: Lyr Add: BLOW BOYS BLOW
From: Cllr
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 11:49 AM

As greg b says they could be bits of other chanteys

Blow today and blow tomorrow
Blow me from this ship of sorrow

could be the couplet from BLOW BOYS BLOW:

CHORUS: Blow winds, and blow forever,
Blow me down the Congo River.

Was you ever down the Congo River?
Blow, boys, blow!
Where fever makes the white man shiver.
Blow, my bully boys, blow! CHORUS

A Yankee ship comes down the river,
Blow, boys, blow!
A Yankee ship with a Yankee skipper,
Blow, my bully boys, blow! CHORUS

How do you know she's a Yankee clipper;
Blow, boys, blow!
Her masts and yards they shine like silver.
Blow, my bully boys, blow! CHORUS

And how do you know she's a Yankee liner;
Blow, boys, blow!
By the Stars and Stripes streamin' out behind 'er.
Blow, my bully boys, blow! CHORUS

And how do you know she's a Yankee packet;
Blow, boys, blow!
'Cause her guns are all firin' a hell of a racket.
Blow, my bully boys, blow! CHORUS

And how do you know she's a Yankee cutter;
Blow, boys, blow!
By the blood and guts rollin' in her scupper.
Blow, my bully boys, blow! CHORUS

Who do you think is captain of her?
Blow, boys, blow!
Old Holy Joe, the darky lover.
Blow, my bully boys, blow! CHORUS

What do you think she's got for cargo?
Blow, boys, blow!
Why, "black sheep" that have run the embargo.
Blow, my bully boys, blow! CHORUS

What do you think they had for breakfast?
Blow, boys, blow!
The starboard side of an old sou-wester.
Blow, my bully boys, blow! CHORUS

What do you think they had for dinner?
Blow, boys, blow!
Belayin' pin pie and a trip through the wringer.
Blow, my bully boys, blow! CHORUS

What do you think they had for supper?
Blow, boys, blow!
Belayin' pin pie and a roll in the scupper!
Blow, my bully boys, blow! CHORUS

O, blow today and blow tomorrow,
Blow, boys, blow!
Blow me from this ship of sorrow.
Blow, my bully boys, blow! CHORUS

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Shanties
From: Cllr
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 12:08 PM

not sure about the other two

heave away haul away is south australia (but there are quite a few similiar which may have boys put in there some where)
some of the terminology such as Stamp and go could refer to a type of shanty like say "drunken sailer" or so stan hugilonce said apperantly acoording to one thread on mudcat. You might need a bit more detail; to get an acurate response here as it looks abit tangled up to me.

Number two definalty mingualy boat song I know thats already been said but i like the idea of ryming "dingle bay" with mingualy he he he. Cllr

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Shanties
From: Cllr
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 12:10 PM

*mingulay (tsk tsk certainly mangled) Cllr

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Shanties
From: fi_in_nz
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 03:34 PM

Yeah, classic case of mishearing - It's def Mingulay Boat song and I think the other is Graham Moore's Stamp and Go since I'm pretty sure it was Four n'Aft I heard sing it...... I guess it must be still under copyright and not for general consumption since no words have appeared. Fair nuff. F

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Shanties
From: fi_in_nz
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 03:44 PM

Hi HP - since you're a guest, I can't pm you, but I guess you must be one of the female members of Four n'Aft? Do you perchance know if there is any way of contacting Graham Moore to ask him if he'd mind me singing his song in NZ? It's a great song and deserves a wide audience IMO, (of course if he doesn't want it exported, that's fine too!) I can't find him on Google. Thanks. F

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Shanties
From: GUEST,Lighter
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 04:28 PM

"Packets" and "liners" may have been "clippers" but not "cutters." A "cutter" is either a single-masted sailboat, or else a lightly-armed vessel of any kind operated by a nation's nautical anti-smuggling service.

So a "Yankee cutter," in the song, can only be a vessel of the U.S. Coast Guard (which took that name in 1915)or its predecessor, the U.S. Revenue Cutter Service (formerly "Revnue Marine").

So the "cutter" part of the verse is a bloper. If it matters.

So pass that belayin'-pin pie! Can I have a scoop of vanilla on mine?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Shanties
From: Cllr
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 04:41 PM

of course! I didnt read it i just checked the last verse then i cut and pasted it. I usually sing the liner verse not the cutter or packet vesres
and then the "what do you think we had for dinner?
Hot water soup but a little bit thinner
and that avoids the reapeat of belayin pin pie, thanks for that lighter I should have checked myself Cllr

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Shanties
From: 8_Pints
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 05:48 PM

The 'Stamp & Go' shanty is in the Shellback repertoire and permission has been granted for its performance I'm told.

I shall PM you contact details.

Bob vG

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Shanties
From: GUEST,Brian
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 08:26 PM

Info on Graham Moore here with an e-mail address.

cheers

Brian

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Shanties
From: GUEST,Rowan
Date: 23 Aug 06 - 12:31 AM

While we're on particularities,

"Who do you think is captain of her?
Blow, boys, blow!
Old Holy Joe, the darky lover.
Blow, my bully boys, blow!"

was always sung as

"Who do you think was the captain of her?
Blow, boys, blow!
Oh Three-fingered Fred, the nigger lover.
Blow, my bully boys, blow!"

in my unreconstructed and politically incorrect past.

Cheers, Rowan

Subject: Lyr Add: BLOW, BOYS, BLOW (3)
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 03 Feb 11 - 09:24 PM

Chanties and a little on bottleships and sailing history in a website of the Bottleship-Museum, Enkhuizen, Netherlands.
The chanties are from England, U. S., France, and The Netherlands.
This version of "Blow, Boys, Blow" adds a little to verses already posted.

BLOW, BOYS, BLOW

Oh, Blow my boys, I long to hear you!
Blow, boys, blow!
Oh! Blow, my boys, I long to hear you!
Blow, my bully boys, blow

A Yankee ship came down the river,
with a Yankee crew and a Yankee skipper.

She was a nicely sky-sail rigger,
the stars and stripes were flying above her.

Her sails were old, her rides were rotten,
his charts the skipper had forgotten

And who d'ye think was skipper of her,
Old preaching Sam, the noted scoffer.

The mate was Joe, the Frisco digger,
the boatswain was a great black nigger.

The cook was Jim the Boston beauty,
The steward had to learn his duty.

The crew were anything but frisky,
they had never crossed the Bay of Biscay.

And what d'ye think they got for breakfast,
the starboard side of an old southwester.

And what do you think they got for dinner,
a monkey's tail and sweet potatoes.

And what d'ye think they get for supper,
o three, four pulls on the windward braces.

And what d'ye think they got for cargo,
three, four hundred girls from Yokohama.

Oh! Blow, my boys, and blow for ever!
Oh! Blow me down the Mississippi River.

http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/tt/2904

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Shanties
From: Frank Maher
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 11:36 AM

http://www.contemplator.com/sea/index.html

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Shanties
From: GUEST,Max Johnson
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 02:45 PM

Hugill categorises some shanties as 'Stamp and Go' shanties.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Shanties
From: Lighter
Date: 11 Sep 23 - 07:41 PM

Manchester Guardian (Aug. 17, 1905):

"One [chantey], I remember, ran as follows:-

O! where do you think this ship is bound to?
       O haul! my bully boys, haul!
O! she is bound for the coast of Guinea!
             CHORUS
O! what do you think she has for cargo?
             CHORUS
O! chains and shackles for poor n-----rs.
             CHORUS"