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Dartford Folk Club

Dartford Warbler 03 Sep 06 - 07:34 PM
jojofolkagogo 04 Sep 06 - 07:29 AM
Dartford Warbler 04 Sep 06 - 08:31 AM
GUEST,Mr Grumpy 04 Sep 06 - 08:35 AM
breezy 04 Sep 06 - 09:06 AM
breezy 04 Sep 06 - 09:09 AM
Richard Bridge 04 Sep 06 - 10:48 AM
breezy 04 Sep 06 - 03:51 PM
GUEST,Tone Deaf Leopard 04 Sep 06 - 04:42 PM
Chris Amos 04 Sep 06 - 05:31 PM
Girl Friday 06 Sep 06 - 08:09 PM
Richard Bridge 06 Sep 06 - 08:54 PM
jojofolkagogo 08 Sep 06 - 11:00 AM
Briansquire 08 Sep 06 - 01:33 PM
GUEST 08 Sep 06 - 03:10 PM
GUEST,Mr Grumpy 08 Sep 06 - 03:32 PM
BB 08 Sep 06 - 06:20 PM
Dartford Warbler 08 Sep 06 - 08:44 PM
Girl Friday 10 Sep 06 - 05:25 PM
GUEST,Dartford River Crossing 10 Sep 06 - 05:48 PM
The Sandman 10 Sep 06 - 06:00 PM
Richard Bridge 10 Sep 06 - 06:29 PM
GUEST,Girl Friday without cookie 10 Sep 06 - 09:25 PM
The Sandman 11 Sep 06 - 03:29 AM
Richard Bridge 11 Sep 06 - 03:31 AM
The Sandman 11 Sep 06 - 07:43 PM
Girl Friday 11 Sep 06 - 08:39 PM
GUEST 12 Sep 06 - 07:32 PM
GUEST,Mr Grumpy 13 Sep 06 - 07:13 AM
GUEST,sailorby 13 Sep 06 - 07:43 AM
Richard Bridge 13 Sep 06 - 07:52 AM
The Sandman 13 Sep 06 - 08:28 AM
GUEST,Mr Grumpy 13 Sep 06 - 09:10 AM
GUEST 13 Sep 06 - 09:50 AM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 13 Sep 06 - 11:04 AM
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Subject: Dartford Folk Club
From: Dartford Warbler
Date: 03 Sep 06 - 07:34 PM

Just to let you know that Dartford Folk Club gets underway again after the August holiday and festival break.

We start on Tuesday 5 September with Carl Jones and Beverly Smith.

They have been part of the US traditional music scene for years, playing just about anything with strings and tossing in vocal harmonies in various bands and formations. Carl is a singer songwriter who plays mandolin, banjo and fiddle. Beverly is a highly respected guitar player and is also in demand as a singer, fiddler and dance caller. Together, they are a most engaging old timey duo.

Everyone welcome. Club membership not necessary.
12 (Yes! Twelve!) real ale hand pumps on the bar!

http://www.DartfordFolk.org.uk


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: jojofolkagogo
Date: 04 Sep 06 - 07:29 AM

This is the club which says "All Singers and Musicians Welcome"

but never asks anyone to sing or play, except, of course, the Residents.

I dont like this club. (and I dont like guest clubs in general)

Jo-Jo


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: Dartford Warbler
Date: 04 Sep 06 - 08:31 AM

Flamed on virtually my first visit to Mudcat :-(

Jo-jo, whilst you have every right not to like 'guest clubs in general', I do take exception to your comments about the club and suggest you have a look at:
http://www.dartfordfolk.org.uk/floors1.htm

(P.S. I am neither a Resident or organiser of said club)


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: GUEST,Mr Grumpy
Date: 04 Sep 06 - 08:35 AM

I think JoJo has a point here. It is a complaint I have often heard about the club.

It also has almost wholly American or American-type music.


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: breezy
Date: 04 Sep 06 - 09:06 AM

maybe the club has a quality controller?

It says musicians and singers welcome so perhaps those who may think they are, are not.

The audience comes first.


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: breezy
Date: 04 Sep 06 - 09:09 AM

and

having looked at their programme


its certainly is high quality mainly british line up

we will be having A J C making a 2nd visit to St Albans on the 24th sept


so mr Grumpy and jojo are way off target, maybe stick to free sessions., unless you can do better


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 04 Sep 06 - 10:48 AM

Both are complaints that I too have heard. I have heard the first from semipros.

I think, Breezy, that your assumption (without evidence that I know of, certainly jojo is streets and streets ahead of where she was when she started, and I always enjoy her songs) that neither jojo nor Mr Grumpy are worth listening too is ill-mannered.

And while I would not dispute that many Dartford guests are English born or resident I think you would be hard pressed to assert a predominance of traditional English music or song there. I certainly have an image of Dartford as a club that is likely to have transatlantic songs.


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: breezy
Date: 04 Sep 06 - 03:51 PM

It appears to cater for a wide audience and its an audience that keeps the club going so after all these years something is working and the club is well respected.

Maybe a club has to be wary of a predominance of Eng Trad, everything in the correct dosage, and trad is catered for most certainly


Andy Clark from Totnes in Devon, would be a hugely welcomed and aprreciated guest, a latter day Nic Jones in some people's opinion, were he ever booked and he comes with references from none other than Pete Coe. He's down for Faversham next year.

Thanks for the slap R B but I notice you like jojo's songs, not her singing of them ?

Wrists smarting


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: GUEST,Tone Deaf Leopard
Date: 04 Sep 06 - 04:42 PM

We like Dartford, but we, (sensibly) pick and choose which nights to go. The only problem we've encountered about playing there has mostly been our own fault for forgetting to pre-book a spot early enough. It is a valid point that the residents get priority, but they like to get as much time for the guests as possible, and their audiences are usually huge - so the audience, quite rightly can dictate the guestlist. That said, they seem to enjoy our brand of idiocy. Think it fair to say that this is still the S.East's Premier Folk Club, and long may it continue as such.


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: Chris Amos
Date: 04 Sep 06 - 05:31 PM

I have always had a warm welcome on the odd occasions that I have turned up there, you do have to hold a gun to the head of the person on the mixer to get any reverb though.

Chris


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: Girl Friday
Date: 06 Sep 06 - 08:09 PM

We don't need a mixer to get reverb Chris, just a heavy pick on the 13s does it for TDL!


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 06 Sep 06 - 08:54 PM

THat's not reverb, but slapback!


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: jojofolkagogo
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 11:00 AM

thanks Richard for your kind words !!!

Breezy's response was,I think, typical of persons NOT taking complaints seriously... I have heard this complaint many times about dartford FC ... so its not just me !

I made absolutely no mention on the quality of guests - I made the point that GENERALLY SPEAKING people are NOT welcome to sing - if you are supposed to book a spot, then it should say so in their advert in EFN or AKF but is says "ALL MUSICIANS AND SINGERS WELCOME" and my point is that they are not.

Jo-Jo


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: Briansquire
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 01:33 PM

I am a regular at Dartford and I think it is by far the best club in the area.High quality acts a nice enviroment and a huge range of very cheap real ale. I am glad the floor spots are short and limited. I pay to go to listen to the professional very high quality guests not to see a second rate floor singer with no sense of pitch or rhythm. Within a 20 minute drive of Dartford there are probaly about a dozen clubs which specialise in sing arounds where people of any standard can go and warble to there hearts content . As for the music being mainly american or"american type " that is total rubbish if you bother to look through the last years programme you will see very few or ar you suggesting that Tom Lewis as Canadian sings American type music or is blues not folky enough.
Anyone is welcomed at Dartford it is a very friendly and well run club and long may it carry on as is


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 03:10 PM


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: GUEST,Mr Grumpy
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 03:32 PM

The above was me, oops.

Well, since, so far as I know, only one, possibly two 'catters (Not including John Breeze) know who I am, assuming that I was a shitty performer was certainly a piece of arrogance. Maybe I'll play your club, without telling you who I am, and we'll see.

The complaint that the residents at Dartford prioritise themselves over other floor singers is of long standing. I don't know whether it is still true of the club, as I haven't been there since Pint and Dale several years ago (a clue there for those of you with long memories) but it certainly used to be true.

The four guests for September are two sets of Americans, one assemblage who do certainly some american or american-style material (last time I saw Colin Reece play it was in a straightforward electric country band at Sweeps a few years back), and one whose words from his website look like new country (I don't actually know his material). A glance at the guests for the year shows quite a large proportion of americans or players of american-style music (with some "celtic" too). Of the residents certainly the Dartford Ramblers play very largely american songs.


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: BB
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 06:20 PM

I've not been to Dartford FC for many years, but I have friends that go regularly, and I have my doubts about how welcome Andy Clarke would be as a guest there. I suspect that he would be rather too English straight-down-the-line trad. for the organisers, if not much of the audience.

What really caught my notice was the start of the thread, concerning Carl Jones and Beverly Smith. I saw them not so long ago down here in Devon, and thoroughly enjoyed what they did. Definitely worth going to see.

By the way, how long has Tom Lewis been Canadian? He may live there, but...

Barbara


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: Dartford Warbler
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 08:44 PM

WARNING: There is a chap called Anthony John Clarke who lives in Liverpool (England) who comes from Northern Ireland playing at this Southern English club
(http://www.DartfordFolk.org.uk)
this Tuesday 12 September. He writes and performs both humourous and serious songs and also plays the guitar. He has an accent that betrays his Northern Irish roots.

So if you do not think he is from the right part of the world for you, then please stay away.


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: Girl Friday
Date: 10 Sep 06 - 05:25 PM

Dartford Warbler - bet when you innocently started this thread you thought it was just a "What's On?" thing. I wonder if you had known then what you know now . Would you have bothered? Thanks for Barbara's injection of common sense. Anyone wanting to see a guest who is Belfast born, Liverpool raised, and resident in Canada, and doesn't want to go to Dartford is welcome to come to Orpington Liberal Club on the previous Friday.


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: GUEST,Dartford River Crossing
Date: 10 Sep 06 - 05:48 PM

Well Girl Friday, every posting whether critical or praising gets the thread to the top of the list and I am sure the discerning folky will be able to seperate the wheatear from the chaffinch. ;-) :-)


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: The Sandman
Date: 10 Sep 06 - 06:00 PM

Well about thirty five years ago I was a floor singer at Dartford folk club,
I have never been booked there, although I was booked at Farningham ,Gravesend, two different Orpington clubs, Downe folk club[supposed to be a blues club],CROYDON[ MANY TIMES]Catford      Tunbridge wells,Jon Smedley concert club etc.
well John Breeze , I remember when you were a floor singer, at the same time as myself, and in my case without the encouragement [of in my case Skinners rats], I would not have developed as a performer. I am still waitng for that first gig at Dartford,and I reckon I will be gigging up in heaven before I gig there.
    I sussed DARTFORD about twenty five years ago and although I havent been there for along time, I would like to thank AlAN AND PAM Colls for giving me floor spots all those years ago. DickMiles


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Sep 06 - 06:29 PM

Cor flippin 'ell apart from the very brief (about 4 weeks) thing I got shanghied into running at the Railway Bell how many years has it been since there was a folk club in Gravesend?


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: GUEST,Girl Friday without cookie
Date: 10 Sep 06 - 09:25 PM

Gravesend closed shortly after Julia Winn left there for the good life in East Peckham. It ran for as long as they had a kitty.


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: The Sandman
Date: 11 Sep 06 - 03:29 AM

relatively recently, mid 90s perhaps.


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 Sep 06 - 03:31 AM

That was the most recent incarnation, at the Kent and Essex. My guess is that it closed in the mid 90s, would that be about right?

There was one even longer ago at the White Hart, and there was also one briefly at the Call Boy.

I am reminded of "Summer in the City"

Right now, summer in the city
Back of my neck getting dirty pretty
Cool cat looking for a kitty...

Was it by the Loving Spoonful? Now was that name a sexual or a drugs reference?


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: The Sandman
Date: 11 Sep 06 - 07:43 PM

YES Loving spoonful, as was, what a day for a daydream and Night owl Blues.


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: Girl Friday
Date: 11 Sep 06 - 08:39 PM

The Loving spoonful was a spoonful of sugar that helped the medicine go down.


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Sep 06 - 07:32 PM

My God, there's some miserable, pontificating, fundamentalist miseries in this folk world of ours and some of the postings on this thread are diabolical.
There's room for all, or should be, except in the minds of these pygmies. Pam and Alan run a fine club for an audience that appreciates and pays for what they provide. If it's not your cup of tea there are plenty of other places to go and sing your dirges. Or maybe you could start a club of your own and see if you can raise the same number of people to pay on your door for their entertainment.
Words fail me.What a miserable attitude some people have to what gives others pleasure. It might not be your idea of a folk club, but it is mine and many others. Nothing is stopping you building your little niche so get on with it and leave Pam and Alan to do their thing.


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: GUEST,Mr Grumpy
Date: 13 Sep 06 - 07:13 AM

Well, the supporters of Dartford seem to do a bit of a line in snapping, but I don't see anyone actually addressing the three principal complaints: -
1)   Floorsingers do not feel welcome.
2)   The residents play (sometimes a number of songs) and leave no time for floor singers.
3    There is too much American music (not necessarily from Americans).

It doesn't affect me, I don't go there. The last time I went "dressed to play" (as it were) I was asked if I wanted to play.

But these criticisms are not new, they are long-standing, and they deserve a serious answer, not "yah-boo-sucks-chizz-chizz"


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: GUEST,sailorby
Date: 13 Sep 06 - 07:43 AM

Have to say I've been there a couple of times recently and found it very friendly and well run and with a varied and well thought out program of events. I first found it in the seventies when I briefly lived and worked in london and found most other clubs in town both clique-ey and very unwelcoming. Dartford also seems to have stood the test of time. Good luck to 'em.


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 13 Sep 06 - 07:52 AM

Do you perform, Sailorby, or are you an audient? There may be a tendency for a pair of polarised views to be emerging...


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: The Sandman
Date: 13 Sep 06 - 08:28 AM

Constructive criticism should always be listened to, but it is alan and pams right to ignore it if they want to.
One thing I will say about alan and pam colls, they are very straight forward people, They used to let me sing there as a floor singer, many years later when I asked about a guest spot . their reply was well we think you are good but not right for our club[ they didnt mess me about with half promises etc ],now I happen to think they are wrong[ because Tony Rose used to do successful gigs at their club and im not any more trad than he was, but they have an absolute right to book who they want so what I think becomes irrelevant.they have run this club for 35 years they must be doing something right.
   AT THE SAME TIME THERE MAY BE AN ELEMENT OF TRUTH IN THE CRITICISMS WHICH PERHAPS SHOULD BE BORNE IN MIND.
Alan and Pam are very dedicated people who have given alot of pleasure to people including myself but it doesnt mean that the club is not open to minor improvements .
]they have a club policy which is fairly broad[ they occasionally book trad artists[ but nearly always accompanied by a guitar]they are working to a formula they find successful. which is understandable, the problem with this formula is that it never broadens the horizons of their audiences.NOW SOME MAY THINK THIS NOT IMPORTANT       [ i do]or not their remit[ debatable]any way I wish the club success. Dick Miles


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: GUEST,Mr Grumpy
Date: 13 Sep 06 - 09:10 AM

Very sensible, Cap'n


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Sep 06 - 09:50 AM

1)   Floorsingers do not feel welcome.
2)   The residents play (sometimes a number of songs) and leave no time for floor singers.
3    There is too much American music (not necessarily from Americans).

Exactly. That's what the audience pays for. They don't want opera, they don't want jazz, they don't want egotistical floorsingers. They want the residents and the guest and the music they offer.
So what's wrong with that? There are plenty of other folk based clubs catering to your needs which I'm sure neither Pam, Alan, the residents or the audience begrudge you.
So get on with your idea of a club and leave them alone. Oh, and I like American folk music more than English, Scottish or Irish. And modern songs more than traditional. Should I be punished, or will you allow me my club?


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 13 Sep 06 - 11:04 AM

I was a regular attender at Dartford Folk Club, back in the Station Hotel days, and I have two comments to make about it.

1. I too felt that floor singers were made to feel unwelcome, and second class. In those days, the residents were no better (or worse) than many who wanted to do spots but felt excluded.

2. I did continue to go there while I was working in that area, because they booked top class guests. But I left the guitar at home, and didn't bother to try performing, and in due course found other clubs with good guests, AND plenty of enthusiasm for floor singers too, at which time I dropped my visits to Dartford.

In spite of his/her rather rude and agressive tone, GUEST 0732 and 0950 does have a good point. All club organisers run their clubs in the manner which best suits both their and the audience's needs, and the fact that Dartford still thrives after 35 years is proof absolute that its policies and format are achieving that in spades.

Now I can't speak as to the present day content, since I haven't been there since those early days in the seventies, but its continued success is self evident.

By the way, GUEST, not all floor singers are rank amateurs, muddling through half learned material played in three chords on an out of tune instrument.

Many of us are rather good at what we do, even to the point of getting booked fairly frequently as guests in clubs that recognise the existence of talented local performers. I, for one, do not sing dirges or indulge in navel gazing angst, and who knows, if space were made for floor singers, you might even have enjoyed an evening of song and humour from a guest artist you have not been given the chance to hear.

So you might like to practise a little of the tolerance you request from others, and admit that a few more floor spots could lead to good things happening. Just a thought!

Don T.


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: The Sandman
Date: 13 Sep 06 - 11:41 AM

to guest 13 sep 9 50am. ok but what you are forgetting are all the people that dont go there, for one reason or another,.
who possibly could make the club even more successful. The club isnt run just for you but presumably for all the people in the dartford and kent london area who    might like traditional music other than american [trad or modern].You do not own the club just because you attend it. Dick Miles


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: GUEST,sailorboy
Date: 13 Sep 06 - 12:31 PM

Strictly audience. The world will never be ready for any of my musical(?) endeavors.


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 13 Sep 06 - 01:08 PM

Well, that's starting to look like a pattern.


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: Dead Horse
Date: 13 Sep 06 - 03:41 PM

I would go along and check the place out, but while viewing the website, I saw a piccy of someone who I would rather not see again.
Should that individual and myself ever meet, blood would be spilled.
In the meantime, give my worst regards to Vic.


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: Dartford Warbler
Date: 13 Sep 06 - 03:45 PM

Come on Dead Horse, you're wicked :-) Please give us a clue?


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: breezy
Date: 13 Sep 06 - 04:11 PM

How was the A J C gig then ?

He'll be in St Albans on Sunday 24th Sept

plus

support from the residents: George Papavgeris, Chris Flegg, the ref and Moses

probably thats 'll be enough

and they is all gigging artistes, so a good evenings entertainment is assured.

I'm at Staines on monday 18th
plus guru and moses
as
the 'Breezettes' !!!

and Simon Hopper !!

dare you to come


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Sep 06 - 04:37 PM

Capt birdseye. It's entirely up to Alan and Pam who run the club for love and don't make a penny out of it. I can't understand this attitude that they owe anyone anything. It's THEIR club and they can do what they like with it. And I'm not rude, I'm forthright!


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: The Sandman
Date: 13 Sep 06 - 05:25 PM

Yes, read me carefully I HAVE NEVER SAID THEY OWE ANYONE ANYTHING.   I Said Alan and PAM are very dedicated people who have given a lot of people pleasure , but it does not mean the club is not open to minor Improvements.
OF COURSE ITS THEIR CLUB etc and they run it in a professional and business like way[ even though they dont take any financial reward]they need, like any business to know why a proportion of people dont like the club and go elsewhere, thats good business practice.. now next time I am in the dartford area [ I now live in Ireland ]I WILL RING UP ALAN AND PAM AND BOOK A FLOOR SPOT. I am sure I will enjoy their company, they are two people with a genuine love of music who have put alot of hard work into the club.
like JON MCNAMARA AT BISHOPS STORTFORD. TedPoole at Swindon. Gren Blatherwick in Nottingham, RonAngel in Stockton, other people who have organised clubs for over Thirty years or more FAIR PLAY TO THEM ALL.
I will now be forthright with you, I NEVER said they owed anyone anything, but for any club to continue to be a success, they need to be aware, if there can be ways of making the club better .
anyone who says its their club and they can do what they like with it is correct, but stupid and un business like, which is why the club is much better run by Alan and Pam than your good self.DickMiles


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: melodeonboy
Date: 13 Sep 06 - 05:26 PM

As someone who's never been to Dartford Folk Club (not that I've deliberately avoided it - I just haven't managed to get there) I can't comment directly on what goes on there. However, as someone who would like to go there at some stage and who would like a floor spot when I do, I'm rather concerned that a significant number of contributors to this thread who have been there seem to feel that floor singers are not made to feel particularly welcome, and at least one contributor seems to feel that this is not such a bad thing!

I frequently go to other folk clubs in the area and both my songs and I have always been warmly welcomed. Am I likely to be disappointed/disenchanted if I go to Dartford F.C.? Should I just suck it and see and form my own opinions?


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: The Sandman
Date: 13 Sep 06 - 05:47 PM

THIRTY YEARS AGO , I just used to turn up and was always welcomed.
If I were you, I WOULD RING UP IN ADVANCE, and have a chat with Alan or Pam , they are very friendly people who are probably completely unaware that their club has this reputation, and probably upset by this. My own experience as I say, has always been positive.
   Anyway as there is no such thing as bad publicity, only publicity lets hope this thread, makes Dartford more successful. Melodeon boy thers nothing like going to see for yourself , but give a ring first.
dick miles.


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: treewind
Date: 13 Sep 06 - 06:26 PM

I always check with a club before turning up for a floor spot.

Especially after an embarrassing incident where we didn't do that, turned up at a club we hadn't been to before, carrying instruments, and found it was a concert style club with guests + support only.

Never again...
Anahata


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Sep 06 - 06:38 PM

Basically Dartford is a concert style club. More power to its elbow.
We need them as much as we need the other types of club. Now let's let it lie eh?


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: Dartford Warbler
Date: 13 Sep 06 - 07:26 PM

After a very enjoyable evening with Anthony John Clarke on 12 September it is the turn of guest Eddie Walker on Tuesday 19 September.

Eddie comes from the North East of England and has been a regular guest at Dartford Folk Club for many years. He has won awards for his song writing, but his repertoire is much wider than just his own songs and embraces a wide range of different genres including old country blues, rags, hillbilly, original songs and instrumentals. Eddie is an impressive guitar picker and an irrepressible entertainer!

Everyone welcome. Club membership not necessary.

Anyone wishing to do a floorspot is advised to ring first in order to avoid disappointment. (See website for Tele. number)

12 (Yes! Twelve!) real ale hand pumps on the bar!

http://www.DartfordFolk.org.uk


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: The Sandman
Date: 13 Sep 06 - 10:58 PM

Dartford Warbler, your name reminds me of one of Dartfords floor singers of thirty years ago, Singing Robin ,. you,r not one and the same are you.


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Subject: RE: Dartford Folk Club
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 14 Sep 06 - 04:51 AM

I discussed this thread with a muso just the other day. He is a very very fine player and singer, powerful, versatile and expressive in both respects, has done the occasional paid gig (indeed used to do rather a lot at certain stages of his past), is better than most professionals and was quite well known to the club as he used to help one of the former club residents (who subsequently turned full time pro) to get his pick patterns right. He also does largely American stuff. Rips off a murderous version of "Bluesleeves". In short, the perfect floor performer for the club.

He phoned to book a floorspot. He was awarded one. He got stuck in traffic and arrived 10 minutes late (ie while the residents were playing) and was told he was not allowed to do his floorspot as he did not turn up on time. The residents played on. He walked out. I don't think he's been back.

It's not my story, I didn't make it up, don't shoot the messenger.


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