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Lyr Req: The Foggy Foggy Dew (bachelor)

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THE BOGLE BO (or Bugaboo)
THE FOGGY DEW
THE FOGGY DEW (2)
THE FOGGY DEW (6)
THE FOGGY DEW (Irish 2)
THE FOGGY DEW (Irish)
THE FOGGY DEW (revolutionary)
THE FOGGY, FOGGY DEW


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GUEST,Ron Edwards 11 Sep 06 - 06:24 PM
GUEST 11 Sep 06 - 06:27 PM
Big Mick 11 Sep 06 - 06:28 PM
Big Mick 11 Sep 06 - 06:41 PM
GUEST 11 Sep 06 - 06:44 PM
GUEST,ron edwards 11 Sep 06 - 06:55 PM
Big Mick 11 Sep 06 - 06:59 PM
kendall 11 Sep 06 - 07:16 PM
Lighter 13 Sep 06 - 01:11 PM
Kaleea 13 Sep 06 - 01:18 PM
George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca 13 Sep 06 - 11:25 PM
Tannywheeler 14 Sep 06 - 08:24 PM
Gypsy 14 Sep 06 - 10:10 PM
Thompson 08 Nov 15 - 07:17 PM
MGM·Lion 09 Nov 15 - 05:13 AM
Lighter 09 Nov 15 - 08:32 AM
Amos 09 Nov 15 - 05:19 PM
Dave Sutherland 09 Nov 15 - 05:45 PM
GUEST,Malcolm Storey 09 Nov 15 - 09:04 PM
MGM·Lion 10 Nov 15 - 04:06 AM
MGM·Lion 10 Nov 15 - 05:49 AM
GUEST,Christopher Thomas 05 Sep 17 - 10:43 AM
FreddyHeadey 05 Sep 17 - 01:01 PM
FreddyHeadey 05 Sep 17 - 02:00 PM
The Sandman 05 Sep 17 - 05:54 PM
Jim Carroll 06 Sep 17 - 03:01 AM
GUEST,Ch 18 Sep 17 - 10:41 AM
The Sandman 18 Sep 17 - 03:47 PM
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Subject: Lyr Add: I need the lyrics to this song
From: GUEST,Ron Edwards
Date: 11 Sep 06 - 06:24 PM

"When I was a young
man I lived all alone, I worked at the weavers trade. .................
woo a fair young maid. I wooed her in the Summer-time part of the
Winter too, and the only, only thing I did that was wrong, was to shield
her from the foggy. foggy dew." That's it! I will try to research

thanking you all

ron


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE FOGGY FOGGY DEW
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Sep 06 - 06:27 PM

It is likely in the DT, but I have had trouble finding stuff there of late, so here is one from the www:

THE FOGGY, FOGGY DEW

Now I am a bachelor I live all alone,
I work at the weaver's trade,
And the only, only thing that I ever did wrong,
Was to woo a fair young maid,
I wooed her in the summer time and in the winter too,
And the only thing that I ever did wrong,
Was to shield her from the foggy, foggy dew.

One night as I lay fast asleep,
She came to my bedside,
She laid her head upon my breast and she began to cry,
She sobbed, she sighed, she damn near died,
Oh lord what could I do,
So I took her into bed and I covered up her head,
Just to shield her from the foggy, foggy dew.

Now I am a bachelor, I live with my son,
We work at the weaver's trade,
And every, every time that I look into his eyes,
He reminds me of that fair young maid,
He reminds of the summertime and of the winter too,
And the only, only time that I held her in my arms,
Just to shield her from the foggy, foggy dew.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: I need the lyrics to this song
From: Big Mick
Date: 11 Sep 06 - 06:28 PM

Ron, the song you want is HERE.

Welcome to the Mudcat. There is a search engine on the Forum homepage. Consider being a member. We would love to have you.

All the best,

Mick


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: I need the lyrics to this song
From: Big Mick
Date: 11 Sep 06 - 06:41 PM

Ron, to further illustrate, if you scroll up to the top of this page, you will find a Lyrics and Knowledge search box. You will find lyrics or discussions of songs (as well as many other things) by typing some keywords and searching. In your case I just typed "foggy, foggy dew". I also unchecked the Forum box, as I knew it would be in the DT, which stands for Digital Tradition. This is an online database which contains the lyrics to thousands of songs. If you left the Forum box checked, you would also get references to any discussions we have had.

Membership is easy, and allows you to receive Personal Messages, referred to as PM's.

If you were to go to the Forum Home page, you will note there are two sections. The top half is strictly music discussion. The bottom section is for any discussion you would like, from current events to religion vs science to William Shatner.

Come on board. We would love to have you.

All the best,

Mick


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: I need the lyrics to this song
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Sep 06 - 06:44 PM

Try not to believe Mick about Shatner. Shatner had a well-attended funeral here a few months ago. But welcome to Mudcat. Hope you join. BTW, if you do, I may have a few suggestions for you regarding ways to use Google to find songs. Take care and welcome.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: I need the lyrics to this song
From: GUEST,ron edwards
Date: 11 Sep 06 - 06:55 PM

thank you all again from the bottom of my heart

how can I become a member

'Lean ar aghaidh'

ron


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: I need the lyrics to this song
From: Big Mick
Date: 11 Sep 06 - 06:59 PM

Ron, scroll to the top of the page. Just below the words Mudcat Cafe, you will see a row which begins with "Lyrics & Knowledge". Go straight to the right and you will see the word "Membership". Click the link, fill in the blanks, and there you go.

All the best,

Mick


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: I need the lyrics to this song
From: kendall
Date: 11 Sep 06 - 07:16 PM

I read somewhere that the "Foggy Dew" was actually a gang of highway men.


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Subject: RE: I need the lyrics to this song-Foggy Dew
From: Lighter
Date: 13 Sep 06 - 01:11 PM

Famous Poet Robert Graves claimed it was "really" about the Black Death.

It's a shame how people had to sing in code back then....


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Subject: RE: I need the lyrics to this song-Foggy Dew
From: Kaleea
Date: 13 Sep 06 - 01:18 PM

Guest, Ron--
Mudcatters have helped me find info numerous times. Come on back & visit us again!


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Subject: RE: I need the lyrics to this song-Foggy Dew
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 13 Sep 06 - 11:25 PM

Also, when the title of the song is known, you can also browse the songs which started with F.


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Subject: RE: I need the lyrics to this song-Foggy Dew
From: Tannywheeler
Date: 14 Sep 06 - 08:24 PM

I'll bite--Ron, now you got 'em, whatcha gonna do wid 'em? (Welcome aboard)         Tw


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Subject: RE: I need the lyrics to this song-Foggy Dew
From: Gypsy
Date: 14 Sep 06 - 10:10 PM

I love this song........was one me darling mither would sing. Glad to see it refreshed, good memories.......


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Foggy Foggy Dew
From: Thompson
Date: 08 Nov 15 - 07:17 PM

My father used to sing a much shorter version of this, in which it was much clearer that it was an extramarital relationship, and which included the line "She wept, she cried, she damn near died, she said, "Oh, what can I do?"


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Foggy Foggy Dew
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 09 Nov 15 - 05:13 AM

A version caught on, in 1940s-50s iirc, of one of Benjamin Britten's imo much over-arranged concert-style folk adaptations, operatically rendered by Peter Pears, with tune possibly by Britten himself: probably the one mentioned in OP & following post. Harry Cox's more earthy version, with the "damn near died" bit, sung to a tune v similar to Ye Banks & Braes of Bonny Doone, was generally preferred in folk circles in UK.

≈M≈


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Foggy Foggy Dew
From: Lighter
Date: 09 Nov 15 - 08:32 AM

As I recall, Pears's tune was the same as the usual American tune, given by Carl Sandburg in 1927.

Sandburg actually has two tunes and texts, both bowdlerized.

Hard to believe "The Foggy, Foggy Dew" was once thought to be a partially unprintable song, but it was showing up - with "the damn near died" line - in _sub rosa_ drinking song collections into the 1960s.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Foggy Foggy Dew
From: Amos
Date: 09 Nov 15 - 05:19 PM

Burl Ives recounts being harassed by sheriffs about it, being a "dirty" song. How times have changed!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Foggy Foggy Dew
From: Dave Sutherland
Date: 09 Nov 15 - 05:45 PM

While I agree with Mike's description of the Britten/Pears version I have to say that back in the day, too young to get into folk clubs and nothing like the amount of recorded British folk music available, it was my introduction to Traditional British folksong.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Foggy Foggy Dew
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 09 Nov 15 - 09:04 PM

Just my twopennorth.

Both Damien Barber and Graham Moore have IMO recorded superb versions of this.

That said there are probably hundreds of variations either more or less risque out there.

Just hunt around.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Foggy Foggy Dew
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 10 Nov 15 - 04:06 AM

Re the "Doggy Doggy Few" spoonerism: I seem to remember a sketch item with that title & theme in one of the popular early-50s revues, with Joan Heal, Dora Bryan, Graham Payn et al, at the Lyric Hammersmith that went into the West End: The Lyric Revue, followed by The Globe Revue [The Globe being the Aldwych theatre to which the first version transferred]. The Britten/Pears version was at height of popularity at the time. Can't remember much about the sketch, which struck me as somewhat facile; but just record it on this thread for phenomenological interest.

Of further folk interest, BTW, is that Sydney Carter's superb 'The Youth Of The Heart' had its première in the first, and was affectionately sent up (presumably, one hopes, with his blessing -- or at least consent!) in the second.

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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Foggy Foggy Dew
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 10 Nov 15 - 05:49 AM

Youth Of The Heart, mentioned above, written in collaboration with Donald Swann, I believe; and included by him & Michael Flanders as part of their "Drop of a Hat" series of entertainments.

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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Foggy Foggy Dew (bachelor)
From: GUEST,Christopher Thomas
Date: 05 Sep 17 - 10:43 AM

Mudcatters might enjoy a short story inspired by this song on my website: Broadsidestories.net/The Foggy Foggy Dew


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Foggy Foggy Dew (bachelor)
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 05 Sep 17 - 01:01 PM

short story, clicky http://www.broadsidestories.net/the-foggy-foggy-dew.html


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btw Christopher, I don't know if weebly gives you a choice of font size or page layout but I'm afraid I found the line length on your story page too long for my old eyes.
https://pearsonified.com/2011/12/golden-ratio-typography.php


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Foggy Foggy Dew (bachelor)
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 05 Sep 17 - 02:00 PM

["~~~~
btw Christopher, I don't know if weebly gives you a choice of font size ..."
I meant to link to
http://practicaltypography.com/line-length.html


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Foggy Foggy Dew (bachelor)
From: The Sandman
Date: 05 Sep 17 - 05:54 PM

how i miss, mgm lion


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE FOGGY DEW
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 06 Sep 17 - 03:01 AM

I must say I find the 'popular' version of this song a bit ham-fisted
The one I still sing is the one from the Hammond collection which, while still maintaining its erotic nature, handles the sly sensitivity perfectly, humourous without being ribald

THE FOGGY DEW

When I was a bachelor, airy and young
I followed the rovin' trade
And the only harm I ever done wrong
Was to court a servant maid
I courted her in the summer season
And part of the winter too
And the only harm that I ever done wrong
Was to keep her from the foggy dew, dew, dew,
Was to keep her from the foggy dew.

One night as I lay in my bed
A-taking of my sleep
She came and stood by my bedside
And most bitterly she did weep
She sobbed and sighed and tore her hair
And cried, What shall I do
For this night I've resolved to sleep with you
For fear of the foggy dew, dew, dew
For fear of the foggy dew

'Twas in the first part of the night
We did sport and play
And in the second part of the night
She in my arms did lie
And when we woke on the next day's morning
She cried, I am undone
Ah hold your tongue, you silly young wench
For the foggy dew has gone, gone, gone
For the foggy dew has gone

Now supposing you should have a child
'Twould make you laugh and smile
Supposing you should have another
'Twould make you think awhile
Supposing you should have another
And another and another one too
'Twould make you leave off your foolish young pranks
And think of the foggy dew

Now I loved this girl with all my heart
I loved her right through my life
And in the second part of the year
I took her for my wife
I never told her of all my faults
Yet never intend to do
But every time she winks and smiles
We think of the foggy dew, dew, dew, dew

I always enjoy the reaction of audiences when you introduce it as 'The Foggy Dew' and they expect the "Easter Morn" one - worked a charm several times last year during the Easter Week commemorations
We recorded another song under the same title from veteran Clare fiddle player, Junior Crehan, back in the nineties

THE FOGGY DEW
Martin Junior Crehan Bonavilla, Mullagh
Recorded in the singer's home, September 1992
Carroll Mackenzie Collection

Oh, the sun shone on high, when l bade my love good bye.
As she went forth in exile to a far-off land.
And l smiled for her sake, though my heart fit to break
Sank in dark, doom despair as l clasped her hand.
Then l sighed for the rain, against the window pane.
And the cold dark blast of the wintry wind.
Through the long silent years of my hopes and my fears.
For the blue sky would bring my sad grief to mind.

But when twilight falls, oft' I'd dream that she calls.
And the rich, soft music of the voice I love
Makes the dusk grow bright, and the dark haze night
Glow with heavenly light like the stars above.
And when I wandered through, the dimmed foggy dew
That falls o'er the hills when the sunbeams wane.
Sure I know that at last, when the mists are all past.
That we'll meet to be parted ne'er again.

But when twilight falls, oft' I'd dream that she calls.
And the rich, soft music of the voice l love
Makes the dusk grow bright, and the dark haze night
Glow with heavenly light like the stars above.
And when I wandered through, the dimmed foggy dew
That falls o'er the hills when the sunbeams wane.
Sure l know that at last, when the mists are all past.
That we'll meet to be parted ne'er again.

Conversation between Junior Crehan, Pat Mackenzie and Jim Carroll: Before the song:
Pat: You mentioned The Foggy Dew' the other night. Do you have it all? Junior: l haven't the one about Dublin, but I have a small, shorter 'Foggy Dew'.

After the song:
Jim: Lovely. Where did you have that from?
Junior: Oh, l heard that and I going to school.
Jim: I never heard that.
Junior: Didn't you? It's called 'The Foggy Dew' but there's another one:

High over Dublin Town, they hung out the flag of war.
Better to die 'neath an Irish sky than at Suvla or Sud-El-Bar.

"This song was written by Alfred Percival Graves and published in his 'Irish Songs and Ballads' in 1880.
Junior says he learned it when he was at school. It has nothing whatever to do with the erotic English song of the same name, nor the Irish song celebrating Easter Week 1916.
It is highly likely that the attributed author of the Easter Week 'Foggy Dew', Canon Charles O'Neill (1887-1963), borrowed 'Graves' evocative title as a 'calm before the storm' scene-setter.
The English title is said to be a corruption of 'bugaboo*, the old term for the ghost that the gullible young woman is invited to hide from, under the young man's blankets."


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Foggy Foggy Dew (bachelor)
From: GUEST,Ch
Date: 18 Sep 17 - 10:41 AM

Thanks for the tip, Freddy Headey. I'll look at it!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Foggy Foggy Dew (bachelor)
From: The Sandman
Date: 18 Sep 17 - 03:47 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLdYamFmM3g
a different version yet again


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Foggy Foggy Dew (bachelor)
From: GUEST,Some bloke slightly Musketish
Date: 20 Sep 17 - 01:20 PM

Somewhat disturbed and at the same time delighted that I sing the same version as Jim Carroll.

I'll be wearing my trousers up to my tits next....


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