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BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella

White tiger 26 Sep 06 - 03:44 PM
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Subject: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: White tiger
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 03:44 PM

Hi guys, it's sorcha fionn's daughter.
Recently my Dad has been taken into hospital with legionella and he wanted me to inform you all incase anyone had been trying to get in touch with him.
He went to casulty was then sedated for 6 days in intensive care. Doctors did not think he would make it and so me, my mum and my uncle went back to england to be with him and my grandmother.
they found out he had legionella and said that they thought he would still not make it but then they took him off sedation and he was ok for a while. then he went back on for sme reason that I am not sure of yet then he was back off it and is now in his own room on a ward. He now has ecoli and the hospital superbug MRSA. He has great luck lol. But he is making a full recovery and is expected to come out of hospital soon.
He sends this message, " hi everyone, I'm in hospital but well on my way to getting better. And just wanted to let you know that me and sorcha (White tiger) are definately up for Portaferry next year if everyone else is!"
thanks
sorcha
xxxx


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: Megan L
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 03:47 PM

All good thoughts and prayers with you all.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 03:49 PM

Wow, that's some load to get dumped on you, I'm glad to hear he's on the mend. Tell him I hope he gets better soon, and will see him at Portaferry.
Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: greg stephens
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 03:51 PM

Send him my regards please.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: jeffp
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 03:55 PM

Sounds like he really stepped in it.

Best of luck to you and get well quickly!

Jeff


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: My guru always said
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 03:57 PM

So sorry to hear that Peter has had all this **** thrown at him, but really pleased that he's through the worst and on the way to a good recovery. All strength to him!!! Sending positive thoughts to him and to you and your family. Probably won't get to Portaferry, but have great memories of you there especially of the pancake session!


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: Wesley S
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 04:00 PM

If you want to get sick just stay in the hospital. Here's hoping he's better soon.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: Gervase
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 04:42 PM

What an absolute bugger. Give him my very best wishes and hopes for a speedy and full recovery. As one of the saner, nicer voices in this Babelfest, he's sorely missed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: alanabit
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 05:21 PM

He is one of Mudcat's sharpest minds and he has an unremitting intellectual honesty. I am sorry to hear of his troubles and I wish him well. I hope he will recover quickly and fully. I look forward very much to reading him here again.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 05:28 PM

Good luck. Is there anyone he can sue?


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 05:35 PM

holy crap Sorchs, that's a nightmare! Please tell him to get well soon so we can see yous in Portaferry in Feb.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: wysiwyg
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 05:39 PM

We've had a few rounds but please assure him I wish him the best, unprayerfully. (It might even make him grin.)

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: White tiger
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 05:45 PM

thanx guys.
this'l make him smile I can gurantee!
Sorcha
xxx
And no I don't think he can sue anyone because we don't know what the source is unfortunately.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: catspaw49
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 06:18 PM

Tell him Spaw sends his best and any leftover good thoughts I have from my last foray into the hospital.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: Big Mick
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 06:19 PM

Tell the ornery old layabout that Big Mick sez: "tough shit, Paddy, you're still going to get some Irish American Roman Catholic prayers cast yer way". And let him know that no matter how long he laysabout on that arse of his, he still is not going to get a gig in the firm of Lane, Fielding, Patterson, and Swan, Layabouts at Large and for Hire. But mostly tell him that I wish him well, and want him back in the fray soon. Without him here, it is a bit bland.

Get well, Peter.

All the best,

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: akenaton
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 06:50 PM

Sorcha... Please give Peter my best wishes for a full recovery.
I contracted MRSA after a small operation a few years ago so I know a little of what he is going through.

I'm sure Peter see's his medical problems as the result of Blair's privatisation initiatives, and that will be a comfort to him at this time.
Hope to see my friend back on these pages soon.....Ake


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: The Shambles
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 07:08 PM

I hope he will back soon.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 07:36 PM

What alanabit said and then some! Please tell him he IS missed and to get the heck outta that hospital and stay on the mend!

Oh, yeah, and be sure to tell him I signed with my signature "luvyakat.' **BG**

Seriously...get better and stay that way, Fionn! And, thanks for letting us know!

luvyakat


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 07:45 PM

Tell the cantankerous old fella El Greko sends his best. And to stop frequenting whatever he was frequenting where he got all those bugs (sounds like a biological warfare lab)


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 08:07 PM

Poor old sod. I never skip his posts. Good wishes for a speedy recovery.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: jacqui.c
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 11:21 PM

Best wishes Peter. Here's wishing you a speedy recovery.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 11:27 PM

Tell him to get back here pronto! Don't make me come over there!


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: ard mhacha
Date: 27 Sep 06 - 01:57 PM

Peter sorry to hear of your health problems, glad to know you are making a comeback, all the best from the Orchard County.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: White tiger
Date: 27 Sep 06 - 03:38 PM

wow I certainly will have to write al of these down to tell him lol.
Thanks you guys
Sorcha
xxx


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: gnu
Date: 27 Sep 06 - 04:42 PM

My goodness. And thank goodness. Wishing a speedy return to full health,

g


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: Grab
Date: 27 Sep 06 - 04:46 PM

Good luck to him - sounds like he needs it!

Graham.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: SINSULL
Date: 27 Sep 06 - 04:49 PM

Nasty business. Get out of that hospital ASAP. There are fewer diseases in your dustbin at home.

Get well.
SINS


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: rock chick
Date: 27 Sep 06 - 05:51 PM

Give me my love and best wishes, tell him I will make him a special apple pie next Portaferry, I know he has a weakness for apple pie ;-)

lol xx


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: Noreen
Date: 27 Sep 06 - 06:58 PM

Much love to you both- hope all is better soon!


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Sep 06 - 11:12 PM

Wow. What a lot to catch and have to get over--any one of them is bad enough by itself. My best wishes for a speedy recovery!

Stilly River Sage


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: JennyO
Date: 27 Sep 06 - 11:43 PM

Those opportunistic hospital infections are what scares me the most about hospitals - one of them got my dad some years back.

So hurry up and get outta there, Peter. Sending you health and energy from Oz!

Jenny


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: open mike
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 03:56 AM

is it like legionaire's disease?


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 06:54 AM

That is alot of nasty bugs to put up with. Get well enough to get out of there now!

james


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: Maryrrf
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 07:04 AM

Oh that sounds awful. Wishing you a speedy recovery, and hope you make it to Portaferry this year!


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 09:54 AM

Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
keith.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: jeffp
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 02:07 PM

Open Mike, that's exactly what it is.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 02:17 PM

It is the name of the bacteria that causes this condition, the name comes from the Legoinaire's outbreak.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: nutty
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 02:33 PM

It's ironic that nowadays the most likely place to contract it is from the showers in a 'Health' Club'

Best wishes for a speedy recovery Peter.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: Firecat
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 03:12 PM

Oh, man! Here's hoping he gets better really fast. And you and the rest of your family look after yourselves too, Sorch.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 06:25 PM

Sorcha, only just seen this. Give my best to your Dad and I hope he is feeling better soon. Hope you're doing ok too.

Love

Khatt xxx


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: Leadfingers
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 07:07 PM

Look forward to seeing you both at Portaferry ! I try to stay away from hospitals - TOO many sick people there !!


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Sep 06 - 08:16 PM

Should sing him Monty Python's medical Love song....


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: Chanteyranger
Date: 29 Sep 06 - 12:44 AM

All good wishes from one Peter K to another Peter K.

Chanteyranger


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 29 Sep 06 - 08:12 AM

Best Wishes.

My granparents used to say "Never go to hospital. That where all the sick people go to die."


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: GUEST,jOhn
Date: 29 Sep 06 - 02:22 PM

get well soon.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: GUEST,beachcomber
Date: 29 Sep 06 - 07:50 PM

It is always terrible to hear of a Mudcatter laid up. Don't know Fionn , of course, or any of the members, but I feel as if I do having read your postings for 6 years now (On and off that is, I've had a few hospital stays myself.)
Get well soon "friend"


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 11:56 AM

Well, here I am, back in harness at the keyboard. There was a difficult week when the family, including Sorcha (White Tiger) were told I couldn't last more than a few days, but somehow things turned round. There was a big setback when e coli and MRSA added themselves to the concoction of killer infections in my system, but thewe were quite easily managed and this time a good outcome was always predicted.

I am out of hospital, obviously very much recovered, but amazingly weak. I weigh just over 10 stone (140 pounds, 62 kilograms) and need to gain more than 15 kilograms (34 pounds?) to get back to my normal fit weight. I am gradually becoming mobile, venturing a yard or two farther each day, like a cat charting out new territory.

Many thanks for all the messages, not only from friends, but also from those I've annoyed (Big Mick and WYSIWYG in particular in the latter category - especially WYSIWYG's self-constraint, LOL) Those from alanabit and kat bowled me over - I can't live up to that!

Best to all - Peter Kirker (aka Fionn)


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 12:03 PM

Great to see you back in the fold Peter, see you at Portaferry no doubt.
Try and keep out of trouble till then if you can ☺
Giok ☺☻


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 12:10 PM

Wow - so glad to hear you survived all that!

in 1994, I had a bout with a Strep throat which progressed to ulcered tonsilities that eventually turned into full blown Scarlet fever. Only problem was, none of the young doctors I went to had ever seen a case of Scarlet fever (Strep gone into the bloodstream, causing red rashes behind the knees, on the neck, inside thighs and in arm pits at first).

I was misdiagnosed first as having a spider bite which is common in Los Angeles and then when it spread, they thought it was an allergic reaction to detergent or soap. When I looked like a lobster, none of them could believe it wasn't a sunburn. When darker red welts formed over the suburn looking rash, I went to an emrgency room and got shut off in isolation becuase they thought I had German Measles or some rare tropical disease. Finally, a 73 year old doctor walked in, took one look at me, gave me the once over and said "Scarlet Fever, give the girl some penicillin and send her home."

I spent 2 weeks having to lay in the dark and not watch TV or read. Freinds came over and read to me using little booklights. I was bored out of my mind when I was awake which wasn't often. That series of illnesses took the bounce out of my bungee to quote Hutch of Wallace and Gromit's wererabbit film. When I emerged from it, I weighed 108 pounds (I'm 5 foot 11 inches BTW)!

Moral of the story - I lived through i!

Peter seems to have lived through his trial for which I am very grateful. I hope he doesn't have to spend his recovery in the dark with no TV or books! Cheers Peter. Glad you proved those docs wrong and lived! I bet you're glad too, eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: My guru always said
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 12:17 PM

Great to see that you're out & recovering Peter!!! Keep it up & let Sorcha make you some pancakes to help put some weight back on.
Hil


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: The Shambles
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 12:35 PM

Good to see you have survived and hope you will soon be fit enough for a good argument.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 01:08 PM

Well. I'm glad you're back but you have to look at it differently. I mean what the hell is the use of being hospitalized if it doesn't result in a near-death experience? It's good for your family as well. See, if you're in for awhile because you ar having your feet scraped, they get bored and generally pissed having to make the repeated trips to visit you. However if you're looking like you might check out, they don't seem to mind as much.

Then there's the drugs. When you're really critical you get some real quality shit and can cop a significant buzz. Plus, if you're in a coma, even a medically induced one, you can catch up on all that rest you've been missing......AND, you've already seen the results from a dieting standpoint. After you get used to the Vent, you don't even have to worry about breathing!

Now those hospital born post trauma illnesses are great. Myself, I had a couple of staph problems but instead of the E.Coli., might I recommend another intestinal bug called C.Dif.?   It has become very big around here to the point of being medically resistant and a chronic condition that requires constant monitoring and massive doses of "good" bacteria for months and months. E.Coli ends to quickly. C.Dif just keeps on giving. It's those continuing potential killers that keep your family interested and not just pissed because you're screwing up their daily life.

It is simply a matter of perspective. Welcome back!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: Bassic
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 01:17 PM

Welcome back! :-).


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 01:34 PM

REALLY glad to hear from you, in person!! Welcome back!!

luvyakat


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: Micca
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 03:43 PM

Peter, glad you are back, MGAS, I am not sure that White Tiger DOES cooking!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 03:48 PM

Blair thought he had just weathered the worst month of his life....now Peters back!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: skarpi
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 03:54 PM

Hallo Sorcha (white tiger ) and Peter , sorry I am always
the last one to get the news . I hope your Dad is well and is
home by now . Send all my best see you in Portaferry 2007

All the best Skarpi Iceland.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: My guru always said
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 04:49 PM

Micca: I, on the other paw, am certain that White Tiger has done cooking - I recall her being my apprentice at the Loughstock Pancake Workshop a couple of years ago. We were most ably assisted by Andy!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: alanabit
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 04:54 PM

I am glad you are back. It tries your patience sorely, when you have to accept that you can't move about normally for a while, doesn't it? Hope the recovery continues to progress as well.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: jacqui.c
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 06:23 PM

Glad to see you back Peter - hope recovery doesn't take too long.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: Alice
Date: 06 Oct 06 - 12:26 PM

Hello, Fionn, I just saw this thread for the first time! Wow, what a long, strange trip you've been on to the hospital and back! Crazy how those bugs float around and add more illness. So glad to see you back again!

Take care,


Alice


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: gnu
Date: 07 Oct 06 - 06:46 AM

Welcome back!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: cobra
Date: 09 Oct 06 - 03:38 PM

Pete, not been a great summer for you. Glad to hear you are on the mend. I may get a run up to your neck of the woods soon. Will give you a shout. Colm


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: Leadfingers
Date: 09 Oct 06 - 03:56 PM

Well you've got three months to get your self together for Portaferry Peter ! See you there !


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: Big Mick
Date: 09 Oct 06 - 04:56 PM

Peter, how about an update, mate? How are you doing?

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: SunnySister
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 11:48 AM

Conintuing to send healing thoughts-

-- SunnySister
OXO


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 07:46 PM

OK, Big Mick, here's the update.

Progress has been incredibly good so far - much better than forecast. I have gained about 7 kilograms in the past two weeks and I an managing to do enough exercise to ensure that none of it (so far) is fat! The walking stick was discarded after a few days and I can now walk a couple of miles with no problem. The one thing I can't do is go upstairs two at a time. I still launch my foot on to the second step out of habit - but that's as far as it goes.... By the end of October I aim to be going upstairs two at a time and chewing gum at the same time.

Spaw's commoents about relatives/visits were spot on. The more I recovered in hospital, the more the visitor rate dwindled, and the time dragged ever more slowly.

Each day was like a year,
A year whose days are long.


To the dismay of one or two friends and relatives, I've decided to press on with a booked trip to Croatia and Bosnia next week, on the bsis that it would be better to wear out than rust out.


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Subject: RE: BS: Peter K (Fionn) has legionella
From: Big Mick
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 07:54 PM

I like your attitude, you cranky old fart. Good on ya. Have a good time, pay attention to the signals, though. You will know when its time to sit down. I will be confiscating that "wear out than rust out" line. But understand that an attitude like that disqualifies you from any consideration for Layabouts at Large and For Hire.

Mick


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