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BS: Way better than Hitler Youth

Donuel 04 Oct 06 - 10:54 AM
GUEST 04 Oct 06 - 11:04 AM
Peace 04 Oct 06 - 11:09 AM
John MacKenzie 04 Oct 06 - 11:14 AM
pdq 04 Oct 06 - 11:15 AM
Peace 04 Oct 06 - 11:44 AM
Peace 04 Oct 06 - 11:46 AM
Greg F. 04 Oct 06 - 11:58 AM
Emma B 04 Oct 06 - 12:06 PM
John MacKenzie 04 Oct 06 - 12:17 PM
Little Hawk 04 Oct 06 - 12:38 PM
Mooh 04 Oct 06 - 12:39 PM
BuckMulligan 04 Oct 06 - 12:49 PM
Amos 04 Oct 06 - 02:32 PM
Mooh 04 Oct 06 - 02:38 PM
Bill D 04 Oct 06 - 03:01 PM
Don Firth 04 Oct 06 - 03:14 PM
GUEST,lox 04 Oct 06 - 03:41 PM
GUEST,lox 04 Oct 06 - 03:57 PM
katlaughing 04 Oct 06 - 04:15 PM
GUEST,lox 04 Oct 06 - 04:29 PM
Metchosin 04 Oct 06 - 04:42 PM
Don Firth 04 Oct 06 - 05:12 PM
Bill D 04 Oct 06 - 05:31 PM
GUEST 04 Oct 06 - 06:12 PM
Clinton Hammond 04 Oct 06 - 06:19 PM
GUEST 04 Oct 06 - 06:28 PM
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GUEST,lox 04 Oct 06 - 06:34 PM
John O'L 04 Oct 06 - 09:13 PM
Donuel 04 Oct 06 - 10:38 PM
GUEST,Dazbo 05 Oct 06 - 04:28 AM
John MacKenzie 05 Oct 06 - 04:32 AM
Peace 05 Oct 06 - 11:43 AM
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Subject: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 10:54 AM

http://www.jesuscampthemovie.com/

Yes the new Army field manual has a standard prayer for George W Bush but these kids have a card board cut out they can pray to.

(isn't there a commandement about graven images?)


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 11:04 AM

God help us!
God...help us!
God?


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: Peace
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 11:09 AM

Jesus Camp. Huh. Any relation to Hamilton?


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 11:14 AM

Quentin Crisp....   He was really camp!
G.


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: pdq
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 11:15 AM

Hamilton's brother pronounced his name "hay-SOOS".


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: Peace
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 11:44 AM

Interesting that 'Pastor' Becky Fischer's "Kids on Fire" summer camp is located at Devil's Lake, North Dakota.

Posted without comment.


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: Peace
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 11:46 AM

Much can be made of a Scotsman, if he be caught young.


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 11:58 AM

Hamilton Camp! Now there's a name I haven't heard since 1967 or so.
What's he up to these days, I wonder?


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: Emma B
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 12:06 PM

Much can be made of a Scotsman, if he be caught young.

ooops sorry - I promised no more recipes :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 12:17 PM

Promises are like kisses, easily given and impossible to take back!
G.


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 12:38 PM

"Hay-soos" is the normal Spanish pronunciation of Jesus. In the original language of Jesus' time, his name was not pronounced "Jesus" like we say it, it was probably pronounced "Yesh-oo-wah".

That looks more like the Hitler Youth than anything else I've ever seen in my life, Donuel. Maybe even worse.


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: Mooh
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 12:39 PM

The lunatic fringe gets scarily close to the mainstream sometimes.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: BuckMulligan
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 12:49 PM

Greg F - Hamilton Camp died a year or two ago.


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: Amos
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 02:32 PM

The mainstream gets scarily close to a lunatic fringe, sometimes, also, not so??

:D


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: Mooh
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 02:38 PM

Okay Amos, which is it? I wanna know what to say when they come for me!

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 03:01 PM

'Pastor' Becky Fischer is a friendly, well-spoken engaging woman who 'almost' makes sense..until she says. "you have to understand, WE have the truth"

on the other hand, one of the major players in her camp is a parody of a thin-faced, sneering, righteous fundamentalist who looks like he ought to play the lead in KKK movie...and he talks like he looks. (Saw them both on the news a few days ago)


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: Don Firth
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 03:14 PM

I heard an interview with "Pastor" Becky Fischer on NPR about a week ago. That was the first time I'd heard of this "Jesus Camp" thing and the brainwashing of little kids, and I've been hiding under the bed ever since!

This "Christian Nationalism" thing that Michelle Goldberg's book Kingdom Coming warns about is much worse than I thought. Pretty goddam scary!   

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 03:41 PM

check this.

horror


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 03:57 PM

sorry, was thinking of Wolfgangs thread really, just kind of dazed after seeing it and saw Thread title with "Hitler" in it.

Just kind of makes you realize that it was real and it happened and it was done by people to people etc ...

Should have started a new thread really or resurrected wolfgangs.


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 04:15 PM

I think Amos has it right. I was watchng CSPAN the other day when they had on a panel of the "Conservative Agenda." It was nothing but Christian Nationalists including the odious Dobson from Focus on the Family. It was sickening to listen to; a refresher on why I believe in human rights for all and abhor their politics. They had a very receptive audience who cheered and clapped when they declared the "homosexual agenda" was more about destroying the "institution of marriage" than anything else and on and on ad naseum.

If I were a traditional GOP I'd be figuring out how to take my party back from them, pronto!


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 04:29 PM

Those who do not remember history may be condemned to repeat it.

It's not about germans or jews, but about us and it isn't old news, it is about what we are capable of and also about what we are capable of damn well refusing to let escape through the noose ever again!

Though I don't really know how either.


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: Metchosin
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 04:42 PM

The only time that I can recall vividly that I was deliberately machiavellian with my children when they were small, was when my youngest daughter begged us to attend a fundamentalist Sunday school so that she could go to their Bible Camp with her best friend.

We said, "No problem!" and dropped her off every Sunday morning for 3 weeks, while my husband, myself and our other daughter went on the most child centred family adventures we could think of. At the end of three weeks she decided that the family fun she was missing seemed a lot more interesting than colouring purple Jesus's and she never showed an interest in Bible Camp again......thank God.


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: Don Firth
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 05:12 PM

Good move, Metchosin, but I'm afraid this "Jesus Camp" thing is a whole lot more diabolical (Diabolical? Yeah, that describes it accurately. Diabolical) than the general run of Bible camps. It's bloody brainwashing!

Check THIS out.

But before you click on this link, prepare yourself for that cold ball of ice in your stomach known as "fear," and keep an airsick bag handy.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 05:31 PM

I try VERY hard to be a nice, tolerant mind-my-own-business sort of fellow, but there comes a point when the plans of others begin infringing on MY rights and way of life. These people intend to **WIN**...to IMPOSE their notion of religion on the populace at large. They have no use for "separation of church & state".....I'm sure they understand perfectly what the Iranian theocracy and the Taliban are about.


I will not sit quietly while they do this.


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 06:12 PM

As they say, you're with us or against us. History shows that if we don't organise against them they will have us in the death camps while we argue about our sensibilities. It's up to you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 06:19 PM

"http://www.jesuscampthemovie.com/"

That makes me wanna fuckin puke!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 06:28 PM

This will make you puke more.


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 06:32 PM

Detention Centers

    Plus, there was that curious development in January when the Army Corps of Engineers awarded Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg Brown & Root a $385 million contract to construct detention centers somewhere in the United States, to deal with "an emergency influx of immigrants into the US, or to support the rapid development of new programs," KBR said. [Market Watch, Jan. 26, 2006]


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 06:34 PM

Hey - maybe my hijack wasn't so far off track after all.

I would puke but I've just eaten my first proper meal of the day and I don't think there's anything left in the fridge.

Though having said that, it's just as well I ate when I did or I might not have had an appetite.


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: John O'L
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 09:13 PM

I've been saying for ages that what the world needs is some Christian suicide bombers. Now perhaps we'll have some.

'Be the first one on your block...'


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 10:38 PM

Careful what you wish for. George Carlin said he was waiting for disgruntled worshippers to walk into a church and...
Before 9-11 Carlin said he loves to watch catastrophe's on TV...

Fascism is a never ending menace. IT is important to confront and fight it as a blemish or a huge cancerous tumor.

As long as emotions can be molded with love and hate and used as a weapon there will be zealots that will take your life, or way of life, to build their monuments of idealized love and hate on the ashes of your home.


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: GUEST,Dazbo
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 04:28 AM

Can anyone explain to my how a child can be a "born again Christian"?


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 04:32 AM

It's a bit like being a dead again corpse isn't it?
G.


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: Peace
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 11:43 AM

If you are 'born again', do ya get a second belly button?


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 12:48 PM

I'd be happy to see they's who are "Born Again" get a first brain


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Subject: RE: BS: Way better than Hitler Youth
From: Peace
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 01:06 PM

Someone above mentioned brain washing. IMO, a light rinse would do.


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