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Subject: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Lonesome EJ Date: 09 Mar 99 - 02:37 PM Here's an idea. I have a friend in Columbus Montana who has been running a small summer festival called " The Musician's Rendezvous" for about 9 years. It takes place about 50 miles west of Billings, in a 35 acre park called Itch-Ke-Pe on the banks of the Yellowstone. It features Traditional music of all kinds, with camping space available for 3,000 people. My friend (name of Aron Strange) said to me that Mudcatters would be more than welcome this year. In fact, he would designate a separate area to serve as a camping and music section for Mudcat folk. It would accomodate approximately 1000 of us. The festval is slated for the weekend of August 14, and will feature camping, informal music jams, available trout fishing, and a performance stage at another nearby park. Aron would love to have folks like Rick F, Dan M, and any other Mudcat artists perform! This sounds like a great, hassle-free opportunity to me.I would like to hear what others (including our friend Max) think about this idea. I can't describe the beauty of this area...LEJ |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: katlaughing Date: 09 Mar 99 - 04:24 PM LEJ, That sounds wonderful! I love the name you gave it, too! kat |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: j0_77 Date: 09 Mar 99 - 06:28 PM Mudstock 99 wooooohooooooo |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Liam's Brother Date: 09 Mar 99 - 07:44 PM Hi Lonesome! Did I read trout fishing? TROUT FISHING! Big Mick, I'll pick you up on the way. That is, if I can ever get out of Elderly Instruments and make it to your house. WARNING: We may have to stop at every roadside pond between Chicago and Billings just to find out how big the bluegills are! On second thought, maybe we ought to fly and concentrate on the trout. Decisions, decisions...
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: bet Date: 09 Mar 99 - 08:45 PM Sounds Great!!!!1 I'd love to make plans to be there. bet |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Lonesome EJ Date: 09 Mar 99 - 09:48 PM If you are a fly fisherman, this is as close to heaven as it gets! Imagine waking up early, while the rest of the camp's asleep, and wetting your line by the golden light of a Montana sunrise. Or fishing as the moon comes out, with the sound of sweet music coming from the campfires. It is also just 50 miles to Big Fork, the headwaters of the Madison and the Jefferson( Both named by Lewis and Clark while on their journey of exploration), and the Bighorn is just 70 miles away. There are more blue ribbon trout streams within an 80 mile radius of Columbus than anywhere in the lower 48. Columbus is a small town, but offers several restaurants, taverns, tackle shops and motels. They would all be within walking distance of the park. Course most of us would be just fine sleeping in our tents and campers, and eating off the grill. Aron wanted me to give out his email address in case anyone had questions about anything. It is Aron@strange.to This is exciting! I am looking forward to that midnight jam where Art sings "Tennessee Stud" accompanied by Rick and Sandy. Or maybe Dan will favor us with "Lord Bateman" accompanied only by the rush of the Yellowstone and the breeze in the cottonwoods. What say? |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Big Mick Date: 09 Mar 99 - 10:58 PM You people are killing me. You just had to pick this weekend. Gigs booked Friday and Saturday. Danny Mthis is killing me. Could you imagine spending a day cruising Elderly, another fishing for bass and walleye in my lake, sing in the pub, and then take off for Montana and a few days singing with the 'Catters and fishing for the trout in those fabled streams. Nirvana. Let's make plans for next year and I just won't book on that weekend. But I think I am going to be able to make the Folk Society Getaway Weekend in Maryland this year. I will have to have Bill D. and Ferrara get me the particulars early so I can block out the weekend. All the best, Mick |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Liam's Brother Date: 10 Mar 99 - 12:05 AM TO: Lonesome Did I read restaurants, taverns, tackle shops and MOTELS! MOTELS! I may even be able to get Liam's Sister-In-Law to this one.
TO: Big Mick
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Lonesome EJ Date: 10 Mar 99 - 12:39 AM Liam's Bro...There are a couple of motels in town of the "Rainbow's Inn" variety and a couple of places (5 miles away at the interstate )of the Motel 6 genre. If you flew into Billings, which is the closest thing in Montana to an actual city, there's a damn nice Holiday Inn as well as Ramada, Couple Best Westerns, etc. The 50 mile drive from there to Columbus would be manageable. Big Mick! You are scheduling 6 months in advance!?!I am impressed! Disappointed, but impressed. This would be more rewarding, though. In your heart, you know I'm right. |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: j0_77 Date: 10 Mar 99 - 02:43 AM What about possum pie ??? Hey I need this really bad been out here for ever and been cheated -- got tater pie, catfish pie, turkey pie, jello-carrot pie, rhubarb pie and fake possum pie. :) |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Alan of Australia Date: 10 Mar 99 - 08:49 AM Damn!!!!!! It's too far away!
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Big Mick Date: 10 Mar 99 - 09:59 AM Oh sure, Dan, rub it in............****grin****. I am going to call the AFM about this, It ain't right. They schedule this thing in August, and we are booked solid three of those weekends, and the 4th is the Milwaukee Irish Fest and my hotel room is booked and the arrangements made. But EJ, you are right, this sounds like one of those events that will have a spiritual edge to it. I am envious as hell. An area for 'Catters, we would have a ball. I haven't heard Alice check in on this one, this is right in her precincts. All the best, Big Mick American Federation of Musicians Local 56 |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Will Bakker Date: 10 Mar 99 - 10:02 AM I will surely come, if you can wait till 2000! A great idea! |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Bert Date: 10 Mar 99 - 11:05 AM Mudstock - you trying to guarantee it will rain? |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Lonesome EJ Date: 10 Mar 99 - 11:31 AM Rain? THis is central Montana, not upstate NY.It either snows or the sun shines. And there's (almost) no chance of snow in August...LEJ |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Rick Fielding Date: 10 Mar 99 - 01:42 PM Hey there "lonesome", what a great sounding venue. If I'm the Rick F. you're referring to, then thanks so much. (If I'm not, ooops!) I'll be on tour during that time and on your weekend will be playing the "Heritage River Festival" in Northern Ontario. (also a beautiful area, I'm told) If this is an annual event then count me in for next year. When Sandy Paton said he'd been "looking for this kind of community for years", I couldn't have agreed with him more. Most of the folks I play for (and with) every year, love this kind of music and often the best times for me are the jam sessions and chat before or after a concert. Problem is that you can't take 'em all back to Toronto afterwards, so a lot of time is spent saying "goodbye" and"hope to see you again next year". With the Mudcat, you can visit any time you like...but you don't get to PLAY with 'em. I'm starting a new tour on March 18th which will take me through Connecticut, Mass., and down to Washington. I'll be looking for any Mudcat sweatshirts along the way. It looks like I'll have a few days just to bum around as well, so Heather will be coming with me, and she'll finally see first hand the exciting, dangerous things a folksinger gets up to! Being a Glasgow gal, she's probably eaten some pretty strange things, so maybe I'll try and find her some Possum Pie! |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: catspaw49 Date: 10 Mar 99 - 01:53 PM Gee Rick your timing is perfect...right at the start of roadkill season in the States. Pick yourself up a little Groundhog. Mudstock 99 won't make it for me Lonesome...but 2000, oh yeah. What a kick to be face to face with some of these folks. Karen and I tried to think of a way to pull this off this year or I'd have responded sooner...Next year we'll hook up the camper and be on our way. catspaw |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: j0_77 Date: 10 Mar 99 - 02:20 PM Catspaw49 don't do this to me. I escaped, Maggie Thatcher's bungling henchmen, the clutches of the tax man, the 'Possum Pie Fakers International 4th Church Reformed' and three aliens in Nylon Suits wearing Pork Pie hats asking for directions to Captain Kirk. **to be there with *y*o*u* this year** - cancell everything even the IRS cancell Monday - eraze Wensday - rename Saturday -
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Roger in Baltimore Date: 10 Mar 99 - 06:17 PM Rick F., If you hit Washington, D.C., let me know. I'll try and get down there in my Mudcat T-shirt. Roger in Baltimore |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: catspaw49 Date: 10 Mar 99 - 07:34 PM Which brings up a point for all those 'catters way over on the coast...RICK, are you going to publish a schedule? I know there are a lot of Mudcateers in the area you're going to. Sorry, I'm not one of them! catspaw |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Sandy Paton Date: 10 Mar 99 - 08:11 PM Rick's schedule is on his own web site, and also posted on the "tour" guide of our Folk-Legacy web site. Click on the blue Folk-Legacy, then click on "tour" in the left frame. When the tour page comes up, click on Mudcatter Rick Fielding's name. Bingo! Tour dates, including (for Roger of Baltimore, who isn't really from Baltimore at all) the date of his Folk Song Society of Greater Washington concert, to be held at the Ethical Society building. Don't miss this one, folks, as it may be a while before we can get him south of the border again! Sure wish we could make the Mudstock gathering, but it won't be this year, I fear. Fiscal reality raising its ugly head again. Maybe next year? Sandy |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Lonesome EJ Date: 10 Mar 99 - 08:17 PM Hey Max. How about a Mudcat calendar that we could access that would show upcoming appearances of our folks as well as regional and national festivals? |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: catspaw49 Date: 10 Mar 99 - 09:41 PM Well thanks Sandy ... Gawd I love being this stupid!!! I don't know why going to either site didn't occur to me. My use of the NET is becoming more and more limited to Mudcat...if it ain't here, to hell with it!!! I gotta' get out more. Thanks Sandy. catspaw |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Big Mick Date: 10 Mar 99 - 10:58 PM Let's try to get this done next year. The prospect of making music with Mudcatters under the Montana sky with TROUT (Are you listening, Milner???)nearby is very exciting. I will be happy to assist in anyway I can. But planning must start very early in order to accomodate as many schedules as possible. All the best, Mudcat Mick, the artist formerly known as Big Mick, who is currently working on a business plan for his autographed line of Mudcat Condoms. If you don't know what I am talking about click here |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Big Mick Date: 10 Mar 99 - 11:03 PM Oops, let's try that again. click here |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Charlie Baum Date: 10 Mar 99 - 11:05 PM Roger in Baltimore: Another source of information for Rick Fielding's DC concert is the FSGW website. Ditto for Bick Mick and anyone wanting information on next October's Getaway. |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Big Mick Date: 10 Mar 99 - 11:06 PM And start reading with the Catspaw post on 10 March at 1:36 pm. |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Sandy Paton Date: 11 Mar 99 - 12:19 AM I think it only fair to warn all of you 'Catters that if you get Liam's Brother, Dan Milner near a good trout stream, you're gonna have to put on waders to get close enough to hear him sing. The guy's a fishing fanatic! He goes all the way to Iceland just to catch a big salmon, for cryin' out loud, when he could get one already smoked from Eddie Bauer. Imagine! He's on the staff at the Pinewoods Spring Weekend this year, which is held about nine miles from where I live, and they expect to hear him sing all those great Irish ballads. Hah! The camp is on a small lake that is loaded with small-mouth bass. You know, those fish that pose for all the Field and Stream covers, leaping and twisting and generally showing off. Well, maybe he'll sing loud enough from out there on the lake for the campers to hear him. Sandy |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: katlaughing Date: 11 Mar 99 - 12:39 AM Ah, sure, Sandy. You know what will happen, doncha? He'll charm the gills off of all those fish, they'll be swooning at his feet, spouting "pick me, pick me"! Then he can haul what he wants out in one fell swoop and get on to singing to those who breath air. Well, it was a dream, anyway....Dan, do you ascribe to the catch and release philosophy? Those fish in Montana are hoping so! kat |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Rick Fielding Date: 11 Mar 99 - 02:09 AM Help "Lonesome". My lovely (and sometimes chickenshit) Glaswegian bride Heather wants to know if there are snakes or lizards lurking about near your Montana paradise. Once she deals with the mosquitos and black flies in Northern Ontario later this summer I think it will be a moot point, however. I've done my best to drag her down to being a folkie to the point where she occasionally slips a Stanley Bros. or Gordon Bok CD on the player between Freddie Murcury, Patsy Cline and The Moody Blues...but I haven't made a camper of her yet. On the other hand, she saw Big Mick's picture..and I think if he's coming out next year, she'd hop a freight to get there! |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: j0_77 Date: 11 Mar 99 - 02:19 AM I just remembered, yonks ago I used try to sing (I am not a singer) with my pals 'Dear Old Glasgie Toun' - I know lots of folk in Blighty sing it but wonder if any 1 this side of the pond sings it :) |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Liam's Brother Date: 11 Mar 99 - 12:11 PM Hi Kat! As it says in the Good Book: "Many are called, few are chosen." I only kept 2 fish last year. The salmon I got in Iceland and a fairly hefty largemouth bass that I caught in a pond where the fish were so many and so active that they were just about leap frogging each other to get the lure. An incredible spot! The bass went to the fishing buddy who had very kindly shared the fishing hole with me. There are a number of fine old traditional songs that wax at length about angling. I mean to learn 1 or 2 in the not too distant future. The Pinewoods Spring Folk Music Weekend referred to by Sandy above is 28-31MAY in Falls Village, CT. Saga Grey and I are the staff performers and, of course, the weekend is really about everybody singing. Any Mudcatters who might be interested in attending can get information by calling 718-826-1776. Depending on what type of room you choose and whether you stay through Sunday or Monday, the cost is approximately $200 - $275, food included. I have never been to the place but Liam (Yes, Kat, there really is a Liam!) was "World Famous" there 30 or 35 years ago. I look forward to it... AND TO MONTANA!!!
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Lonesome EJ Date: 11 Mar 99 - 12:50 PM Rick...To tell you the truth, there's nothing in Montana nearly as scary as Freddie Mercury, Patsy Cline and The Moody Blues all lying next to each other in the same cd changer. There are rattlers in Montana (though I've never seen one), but you find them in the more rugged terrain, not the grassy fields of the Stillwater Valley. Because it is a dry climate, there aren't many insects to speak of. |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: catspaw49 Date: 11 Mar 99 - 01:23 PM Actually Rick, she needs to get together with Karen who convinced me to buy a camper after years of saying no. I finally gave in to a pop-up that is surprisingly roomy and had a stupid accessory for a pop-up camper...Air Conditionng!!! Works quite well too. So at least on the worst days,it's still OK. Of course I still had a trick or two up my sleeve...like on the first weekend we planned to go out, I quite craftily avoided it by having a heart attack!!! As it turns out, I think I'm enjoying the damn thing more than she is now. So tell her she could hang out with Karen as they share similar tastes in music and the A/C and camper keep the non-human pests out. catspaw |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: katlaughing Date: 11 Mar 99 - 01:47 PM Hey,guys, You know the worst thing anybody will have to worry about is high altitude (for those of you who live on a coast, esp.) and high altitude sunburn! It's all tolerable in the shade says she who would die without her A/C! Where I am, Casper, WY, gets HOT in August, but run up the mountain and in 5 minutes you've got it made in the shade. Rog is frugal. Last summer he bought a 13ft travel trailer, circa 1966, gutted it, rewired it, etc. He's got it all ready to go anywhere. I've been reducing my bodily structure. One day when I was lamenting the lack of loss that week. He teased me about shutting me up in the trailer with my computer and NO pizza delivery! We decided to name it the "Pumpkin Shell" after that, since he started reciting that (Peter, Peter, Pumpkin eater) nursery rhyme to me. So, as I ramble on, what I'm trying to say is, watch for the Pumpkin Shell in MT. I don't go in for primative camping anymore. He's even got it wired to handle my O2 concentrator, though at the rate I am going with loss, I may not have to have that by then! When he looked at it, I told him he couldn't buy unless he let my friends and me paint it like a "traveler's" wagon...so ya'll better bring some paint! Oh, and WHAT is wrong with the Moody Blues, I might ask? Got to interview them for an article I did a few years ago; fun and kind phoak! Too electrified, I suppose, eh? Bye for now, katlaughing, wants to believe there really is a Liam, needs proof! |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Alice in Montana Date: 11 Mar 99 - 02:32 PM Hey, there, folks, I've been out of touch since my computer monitor died a week ago, and it looks like I won't get it back until next Wednesday. Get out the maps and you will see that Columbus is on the highway between Billings and Bozeman (I live in Bozeman). I am at the public library using a terminal to catch up on Mudcat news, and my time runs out in a few minutes. I don't know when I will be able to check back in. We are used to driving long distances in Montana. If you aren't up to the adventure of roughing it in the campground, there are other towns along the highway with motels/hotels and bread and breakfast inns. This is exciting!! I may get a chance to actually meet some of you face to face after 'talking' to each other on this forum for two years!!
Alice in Montana No need to worry about bugs, snakes, or rain. Bring sunscreen and hats to protect from the summer sun. Also, please note that we now have a speed limit, since people couldn't understand the 'reasonable and prudent' speed law. |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Lonesome EJ Date: 11 Mar 99 - 03:05 PM Actually, I wasn't criticizing the Moodies, I was just thimking they made a strange combination with Patsy Cline and Freddie Mercury. Who am I to talk? Charlie Rich comes right after Lou Reed in my alphabetized collection. Didn't realize you were a Casperite, Kat. Be a short trip (well comparatively short) trip to Columbus for you.
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Barry Finn Date: 11 Mar 99 - 04:57 PM Katlaughing, I think I passed through Casper in the summer 1959 with my family & I think it was in the process of burning down, headed off to a ranch in Brice (Bruce ?) Canyon. Barry |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Barry Finn Date: 11 Mar 99 - 05:03 PM Continued from above. Br> Just remembered, it must've been right around July 4th week, I recall fireworks before or after the fire, I don't think one had to do with the other. Awfull pretty country out there, back then, even more so for a city kid (except big fires, we had them all the time). Barry |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: bet Date: 11 Mar 99 - 07:51 PM Alice, You now have a speed limit, what a shame!!!!! Like you, we travel some long distances in western Colo. and Wyo. I'm new to this mudcat thing but you folks really excite me with sound of the mudstock. I'm planning on being there, tent and all. I kind of bribed my son (15) into saying he'd go with me. The fishing is what did it. You all sound like great people and I could really use some new friendships. bet |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Sandy Paton Date: 11 Mar 99 - 09:12 PM Caroline and I are booked for the Connecticut Family Folk Festival that weekend, dammit! It's their 25th anniversary, and will probably be the last of the lot, unless someone turns up to take over the scads of work it takes to run such an event. So, get her started, gang, and we'll try to keep the same dates open in 2000, if Catspaw and Cletus will bring the 'possoms for the pie. Sandy |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Big Mick Date: 12 Mar 99 - 12:21 AM I am going to do my best to make the 2000 date. Keep us posted on the dates as soon as possible. It is just not possible this year with the stuff we have lined up, but 2000 sounds like the one. Wish I could be there with you this year!!! All the best, Mick |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Lonesome EJ Date: 12 Mar 99 - 12:38 AM Hey Mick! We'll make sure you get a MUDSTOCK 1999 t-shirt, anyway.You know..."my friends went to Mudstock and all they brought me was this lousy T-shirt!" Art- we need somebody to run the Condom Concession! I am planning to craft a very large "MUDCAT" flag and hoist it over our encampment, probably right next to Kat's Pumpkin RV. |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: katlaughing Date: 12 Mar 99 - 01:05 AM Well, Lonesome, RV is much too formal a'name for the little tiny old thing he calls the Pumpkin. But I'm open to the flag thing anyway, as long as it isn't bigger than the PShell! Yea, re' the Moodies; although my mix is mighty strange too, have to have something for every mood, doncha know? I checked on MapQuest. It'll be a measly 300 and something miles for us, from Casper. If we are still here. Rog wants to go south; it is beautiful here, but the winters are long, the wind is harsh, and a lot of the people are below average (just trying to paraphrase Keillor)NOI! i DO think a lot of them are brain dead, though! Actually, since he has to travel to remote and treacherous places, in 4WD or snocat, it really is pretty tough on him and he is ready for a change. Casper on fire, eh, Barry? Must have been the fireworks at the fairgrounds. I was all of 6 in 1959 and was probably there watching them. We just lived across the river from there.I don't remember any fires, but my siblings might or my dad. Lonesome, I really consider myself to be more of a Coloradoan, as my ancestors settled outside of Boulder nad on the Western Slope. I grew up picnicking at SnoMass before they even thought of putting in a ski resort; it was just lovely cows and pastures back then. The year my ex worked up there helping to build the damn thing, my son and I spent part of the summer in a tent and had a blast; he was 2yrs old then and thought it was a lark. Sandy, Caroline and Big Mick: sorry you can't make it, it won't bethe same unless we can link you up to someone's laptop, so's you can tap out more wit at us while we wax poetic! kat |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: j0_77 Date: 12 Mar 99 - 06:06 PM Mudstock 99 is a free festival :) |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Big Mick Date: 13 Mar 99 - 01:05 AM EJ, I am going to hold you to that offer on the shirt. XXL, please. And let me know the cost, and I will get you a check. Mick |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Big Mick Date: 13 Mar 99 - 01:05 AM EJ, I am going to hold you to that offer on the shirt. XXL, please. And let me know the cost, and I will get you a check. Mick |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: j0_77 Date: 13 Mar 99 - 02:35 AM I've a kit here - but I am tooo lazy to design a logo any 1 got any ideas :) like a jpg file with mudstock 99 and a design mbee mudcat please :) |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: skarpi Iceland Date: 13 Mar 99 - 09:14 AM ‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘. sorry it is to far away, but I wish you all the best. bless skarpi Iceland. |
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Subject: RE: MUDSTOCK 99 From: Roger in Baltimore Date: 13 Mar 99 - 07:39 PM Arghhh! Rick is coming to DC on March 20th. I and a dozen friends are having a pot luck dinner and then going to see Christine Lavin in Baltimore (well, Owings Mills near Baltimore) that night. Oh woe, oh woe, oh woe is me. Whatever shall I do? I can't say right now. I know I won't make it to Mudstock this year. Let me think about the year 2000 (assuming I don't starve to death because I don't believe Y2K will be that bad). I am putting the DC Getaway (actually in Edgewate, Md.) on my calendar. The dates are October 8 - 11, 1999. I know I'll meet some 'Catters there! Roger in Baltimore |
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