BS: Should a lady make the first move?

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: Rasener
Date: 21 Nov 06 - 11:04 AM

You beat me to the count katlaughing.

I was just about to say, having invited him to play scrabble, oh and don't forget the condoms, I like chocolate flavour.

I'll bet you don't to play scrabble after that :-)

If you do, drop the letters into his lap by accident and then pick them up one at a time. :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: kendall
Date: 21 Nov 06 - 11:06 AM

What is the difference between "Light" and "Hard"???









A Man can sleep with the light on.

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: jeffp
Date: 21 Nov 06 - 11:20 AM

If the letters fall fortuitously, you might be able to flirt using the words you play. After all, Scrabble isn't the game you are really looking to win at, is it?

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: Big Mick
Date: 21 Nov 06 - 11:23 AM

Of course a lady should make the first move, if she is so inclined to do so. A little old fashioned seduction is not only appropriate, but will be appreciated. If he is doing the "dual entendre" thing, he is signalling anyway. And if you are concerned with rejection, please put it out of your mind. Get out the Martin, sing him a song, and just create an enjoyable atmosphere. The rest will come. If it doesn't, then this bozo is thick and not worth much more time. But as you describe this, I would assure you that the result will be what you want, m'dear. Just be sure of what you want.

Good luck,

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 21 Nov 06 - 11:27 AM

Aha, how do you know she has a Martin, and are we sure if this is the case, that it's not her guitar he's after? This puts a whole different light on the matter, Martins are not cheap you know!
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: Amos
Date: 21 Nov 06 - 12:19 PM

MY impression, sir, is that neither is the lady!


A

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: Big Mick
Date: 21 Nov 06 - 01:12 PM

Amos....... my man!!! Well said.

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: JenEllen
Date: 21 Nov 06 - 01:17 PM

You, my dear, were the topic of choice in the frozen north 'cuddle puddle' last night. Two thoughts:

First, that old chestnut sprung to mind. "If you think you are _______, then you probably aren't." It works for for 'loosey-goosey' as well as 'crazy'. So put that thought right out of your mind.

Second, it's really hard to stomach the thought that you (both) can be in your 50s and not be comfortable with what you want. Where's the harm? I think if you gave him a kiss, and said plainly something like: "Listen, I like you. I think you can make me happy. I think I can make you happy. Last person to the bedroom has to cook breakfast." and then ran like the omlette monster itself was after you, you'd be just fine.

Whatever path you choose, we wish you the best.

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 21 Nov 06 - 01:28 PM

Perish the idea that she should imagine for one moment that I thought that, indeed sir that would be a base calumny!
Giok ¦¬]

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Nov 06 - 01:59 PM

There's no harm in a lady making the first move. Specially if the lady is Hillary Clinton. ;-)

However, those who make the first move must always keep in mind that it might not work out. I've had women make first moves on me which I politely declined...so it can be risky to a sensitive ego. This is something men deal with all their lives, so it's only fair that women should have to deal with it sometimes too.

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: Amos
Date: 21 Nov 06 - 02:04 PM

Not sure I wanna know what a "Frozen North cuddle puddle" is. What color is this puddle, for starters?? :D

Alright, Giok, your bass-ackwards retraction gets you off the hook!


:D


A

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: JenEllen
Date: 21 Nov 06 - 05:05 PM

Frozen North--as in "Baby, it's cold outside...", and for color: cuddle puddles only come in flesh and flannel.
(Thankfully they are one-size-fits-most, and the holiday gift that's sure to please!)

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 21 Nov 06 - 06:44 PM

"had women make first moves on me which I politely declined"

and often then found that then I am labelled as sort sort of nasty arsehole - FOR SAYING NO!!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Nov 06 - 06:49 PM

Well, there is just no pleasing some people if you hold your ground and remain true to yourself, is there? ;-)

I've had women interested in me who were potentially such bad news that every guardian angel I had was yelling in my ear, "Don't even think about it!" Sometimes I was smart enough to listen...sometimes I wasn't. We live and learn.

Chongo has had experience with that too. Heh! Just ask him.

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Nov 06 - 07:21 PM

Moot question. Women are and probably always have been in charge of the direction and velocity of a romantic relationship. A lady should make all the moves, every time. It's less confusing.

In this day and age if she doesn't make the first move and the man does, then it's grounds for a sexual harassment lawsuit. Less chance of that happening if the woman makes the first move, unless the man wants to try for "she took advantage of me" ink in the morning papers.

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 21 Nov 06 - 08:22 PM

YES - Make the first move.

Insist on whole fillets of salted anchovies - Pizza, Ceasar Salid, Appetizer etc. with dinner. Later, as he walks you to the door, remark about how thirsty the anchovies made you...and insist he have a glass of water before driving off.

Prepare a pot of tea, (catnip, lobella, passion flower, yarrow) and let the evening linger.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 21 Nov 06 - 08:24 PM

A man who will let anchovies tickle his tongue is more likely than oysters to dive for the clam.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Nov 06 - 09:59 PM

hey, garg, could we skip the anchovy pizzas and go right to the tea? how about it?

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: Rowan
Date: 21 Nov 06 - 10:25 PM

Go straight to the tea! And you might even hum the song.

At one stage of my life I was very taken with a lady who never drank alcohol, soft drinks, coffee or tea. It's amazing how much of the ordinary social lubrication between you is provided by such imbibition; I'd never realised until I experienced the situation where it was routinely, and deliberatly, absent.

Cheers, Rowan

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: GUEST,memyself
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 01:43 AM

Imbibition quells inhibition, as everybody knows.

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 04:19 AM

In vino hairy ass?

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: GUEST,Robyn
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 04:56 AM

There is a saying - it's better to regret the things you have done than the things you haven't - so go for it and ask him. It's not unknown for a man to to wait for the woman to make the first move. Good luck and let us know how it goes. Hopefully you'll be reporting back with a rosy glow on your cheeks ;) (the ones on your face obviously!)

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 07:53 AM

I'm not going to say anything...

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: GUEST,memyself
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 09:18 AM

Suggestion here. Don't look at your scrabble date as a do-or-die, make-or-break event, or else you'll probably both be so nervous the whole thing will just be an ordeal. Enjoy your game of Scrabble, enjoy each other's company, and if things carry through to the next stage that night, great, if not, well, you've had a pleasant evening, and give it another shot a few nights later ...

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: Rasener
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 12:40 PM

>>It's not unknown for a man to to wait for the woman to make the first move<<

Yes Rape springs to mind.


What about doing the scene from that famous film was it with Dudley Moore where they played chess to the music of Ravels bolero or something like that. Wish I was 21 again :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: kendall
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 02:03 PM

"Life is trouble. Only death is not. A man should undo his belt and look for trouble." (Zorba the Greek)

I used to wonder, and if it's not there? What if it fell off?

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: Amos
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 03:01 PM

"God has a very big heart, but there is one thing he will never forgive. When a woman invites a man to her bed, and he does not go."


Ibid

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 04:50 PM

You say, "He has kissed me a few times, but has always been very respectful."

How about, when there's a kiss, putting your arms around him (if they're not already there) and giving a squeeze, but then not dropping your arms but holding them around him (so he can't very well back away), pull back your head and look him in the eyes, then zeroing in for another kiss? (Repeat ad libitum)

Variation: A quick kiss on the tip of the nose, and/or on each eye. Then back to the mouth.

If you can't use the above as a successful beginning framework, there's nothing much that can be done for you!

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: Mr Red
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 05:42 PM

Hmmmmmmmmm
the concept of Scrabble and French Letters just won't leaver my brain at the moment

Not such a bad idea really - an easy way to braoch the subject.

(UK - US translation - er think condoms)

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 05:48 PM

It's been a couple of days since Mudcatters started offering advice.

So didja do it yet? :~)

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 05:56 PM

There is no reason why a lady shouldn't express she has feelings to a man. You are in the best position to read the situation. You must have noted his interest at enjoying your company. Tell him you are considering taking a short break, would be nice if you knew a place he liked, ask him would he like to join you ?

Always read his body language and eye contact, they are dead give aways in a man.

Good luck with it.
Divis.

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: Lox
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 06:05 PM

I'm with WYSIWIG,

come on

whats the goss

tell me more tell me more did you get very far

Uh huh, .. uh huh ...

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: open mike
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 06:12 PM

ahh..here's hoping that by International
Orgasm Day we will hear good news here!

Who knew there was such a holiday...
especially in places where there
are weapons of mass destruction.

My kids have taught me a comical
(and possibly "inspiring") game:
When reading the fortune in the
cookie--always add "in bed" to
the saying...might lead to
some interesting conclusions...

also how about a game of risque' scrabble..

it might be a clue if you were to ask
(rather than "do you find me attractive")
"what qualiies do you envision in your
ideal mate or partner?" (and hope that
some might match with you...)

that might get the conversation pointed
in that direction....I am trying to get
the nerve to pose such a question to a
certain someone, myself!

best of luck to us all!!

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 06:14 PM

Actually, my point was that additional advice may be obsolete by now, yet we continue to blather on. :~)

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: Lox
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 06:19 PM

Ok - in that case I'll make it my own

spill the beans, let the cat out of the bag.



Actually - I don't see much difference - I was acting on your observation - I was making it fun too ...


Would you have preferred to discuss the premiss that perhaps we have carried on too long?

Harrumph - Right - jolly good - who's going to chair the meeting, who's treasurer, and who gets to bang the hammer and ring the bell?

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 07:20 PM

Well, Ring ma Bell, Honey!

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 23 Nov 06 - 12:22 AM

Your local "toy shop" (adult variety) almost certainly has the "Official Strip Scrabble" game, now that you children have arranged a "play date."

You might even find it at a "more conventional" book/game shop.

My personal experience of such games (which does not include that particular one) is that they usually are so "hokey" that they're not really much fun to play. But you might have both versions available and offer him the choice of which he'd prefer.

Regardless of which he chooses, you can always suggest "warming up" with the regular one first, with the suggestion that you need to "find out if he can score well enough to make the S-version worthwhile." (If he accepts that option, be sure to offer to help him with the tough words to make sure he scores.) You won't need to play the inane "other version" if he's not totally clueless - if he is at all interested.


The preceding is of course quite tongue-in-cheek.

You've arranged to meet him where privacy permits openness, and you should have no need for any tricks or gimmicks. You enjoy his company and he yours. Have an enjoyable evening and let your relationship proceed in whatever way is appropriate to your mutual interests. Show your own interest(s) and if necessary simply tell him what they are. If necessary simply ask him about his.

Simple conversation, while enjoying your game, should be sufficient to advance your relationship - in whatever direction is meant to be.

John

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: Rasener
Date: 23 Nov 06 - 04:12 AM

>>It's been a couple of days since Mudcatters started offering advice.

So didja do it yet? :~)

~Susan <<

he he was jujst thinking the same myself LOL

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 23 Nov 06 - 05:26 AM

"Should a lady make the first move?"

Yes, so the gentleman will know when to 'get off'...



OOOOOOOOOOO, I'm a naughty boy!

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 23 Nov 06 - 06:11 AM

Well my ex-wife thought a lady should make any moves. A guy might think he'd hurt her if she did.

John

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 23 Nov 06 - 06:13 AM

That was supposed to say "shouldn't make any moves."

^%^@$#!

John

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: jacqui.c
Date: 23 Nov 06 - 07:49 AM

I don't think any of this advice is redundant. Even if guest doesn't need it any more there are likely to be others in the same boat who will be interested in what is being offered.

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: GUEST,Another person in her '50
Date: 23 Nov 06 - 08:54 AM

Amen

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 23 Nov 06 - 09:28 AM

The Scrabble game is not until Saturday!

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 23 Nov 06 - 10:27 AM

BTW thanks to everybody for the encouragement.

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: kendall
Date: 23 Nov 06 - 10:29 AM

A great Guru once said, "The greatest of all virtues is straightforwardness". Most people appreciate honesty, even if what you said does not agree with them.

Make it look like an invitation, NOT an expectation. Hell of a difference.

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: GUEST,memyself
Date: 23 Nov 06 - 12:15 PM

Just wondering - YOU weren't by any chance that great guru, were you?

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: Folkiedave
Date: 23 Nov 06 - 12:31 PM

After all this sensible advice I do hope we get to know all the gory details. But not Saturday please I have been invited to a lovely lady's place for a game of scrabble.

I have no idea if anything else is on the cards.

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: Rasener
Date: 23 Nov 06 - 12:37 PM

LOL

Folkie Dave
you could try a few sensitive word such as


Hard
Knob
Shag (as in tobacco)
Yew
Tonight

Good luck to yew :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: Folkiedave
Date: 23 Nov 06 - 12:43 PM

I haven't told her I am an expert at pornographic scrabble. Imagine how many points there are in "suspenders" and "basque" "welt"..........