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Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns)
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Subject: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: Haruo Date: 29 Nov 06 - 05:38 AM Once upon a time somebody (Max?) decided to call this website-in-the-planning the "Mudcat Café". This has definitely been a good choice. I have been lamenting for some time the dearth of discussion forums/"online communities" for us hymnnuts. And now I have been offered a hundred megabytes to start one in the new year. The offer was made by the owner of ThinkingBaptists.com, and the forum will use the same sort of "phpbb" I think it's called software used on Thinking Baptists. The problem is, I don't know what to call the thing. I'm looking for something short enough to make a domain name out of, unique enough that it isn't already so used (and yes, I know what's wrong with the locution "unique enough", and what it has to do with pregnancy ;-)), catchy enough that it will be easy to remember, topical enough that most who see the name will surmise it has to do with hymns or "church music", witty if possible, yet not in a way that will put off any of the rather eclectic range of hymnnuts (hymn lovers, hymn writers, hymn singers, hymnalists, hymnologists, fasola folks, Gregorian chanteuses, etc. etc. ranging across the theological spectra and belief typologies from atheists and agnostics to Primitive Baptists to MCCers and UCCers and LDS and Ethiopian Orthodox, Jews and Buddhists, Sufis and Saivites, academics and jazz saxophonists) I hope eventually to attract. So this is the offer: Suggest a name for the new forum, and the one I actually use will win its author a copy of the Esperanto hymnal Adoru as well as a $25 donation in your name to the Mudcat. Adoru costs $30 if you buy it from the Esperanto League book service. If you don't want it, you can substitute $20 cash. If there are a bunch of good suggestions, I may also offer runner-up prizes of lesser value. Also if your suggestion is adopted, you will have your choice of "eternal" recognition on the forum's acknowledgments page OR complete anonymity. Haruo |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: Snuffy Date: 29 Nov 06 - 09:03 AM Names like Hymnsong, Hymnnet, Hymnos, Praisesong and Godsong are already taken, so that reduces the chances considerably |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: Wilfried Schaum Date: 29 Nov 06 - 10:30 AM Alas, Snuffy is right. But what about HYMNODEON [a place to sing hymns]? No hits searching with google! Hymneum or hymneon I found more often. |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: katlaughing Date: 29 Nov 06 - 10:34 AM Well, I liked "hymnnuts!":-) Or, you could spell it "HymnNUTZ!" Or, going off of that "Nutsabouthymns." Is "Hymnal" taken? |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: Snuffy Date: 29 Nov 06 - 10:52 AM HymnsRus? |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: MMario Date: 29 Nov 06 - 11:00 AM Nebuchadnezzar's Orchestra |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: leeneia Date: 29 Nov 06 - 11:16 AM HymnChat |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: MMario Date: 29 Nov 06 - 11:19 AM "100 Canticle Street" |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: Haruo Date: 29 Nov 06 - 02:46 PM 1600 Regent Square West? Some good suggestions, folks. The actual decision won't be made until after Christmas (or in the middle of Christmas if, like me, you consider it a twelve-day feast). Unfortunately, Kat, "Hymnnuts" is already taken (or was last I looked), and misspelling it would have the same effect as opening another folkenbluze site and calling it Mudkat... And yes, there is already a hymnal.com with a minimal "working on it" frontpage and contact info. Haruo |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: GUEST Date: 29 Nov 06 - 07:01 PM singhymns and songhymns seem not to be taken, but singpraise is. |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: katlaughing Date: 29 Nov 06 - 07:10 PM Ah, well. I like leeneia's "hymnchat." |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: frogprince Date: 29 Nov 06 - 10:59 PM "Allabouthymn" |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: leeneia Date: 29 Nov 06 - 11:46 PM It occurs to me that for foreigners, the spelling of hymn is decidedly strange. I mean, "y" for a vowel? And "mn" - what is that all about? People could waste time trying to spell it. My sister-in-law teaches English as a foreign language, and she has pointed out that many other tongues do not pile up consonants the way we do. Thus the "mnch" in the middle of hymnchat is problematic. The online thesaurus suggests "worship song" as an synonym for hymn (say that five times). I change my vote to "Songs for Worship." |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: Haruo Date: 30 Nov 06 - 03:53 AM More good points. The ESL angle is of some importance, thanks for bringing it up, leeneia. Surely the spelling of "hymn" is at least as "decidedly strange" for us native anglophones, though. But not as odd as its feminine counterpart, hyrrh... ;-) Haruo |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: Wilfried Schaum Date: 30 Nov 06 - 05:37 AM Hymmhum? |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: Wilfried Schaum Date: 30 Nov 06 - 06:55 AM hymnoland |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: katlaughing Date: 30 Nov 06 - 09:20 AM Hum-a-hymn?:-) |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: Snuffy Date: 30 Nov 06 - 09:39 AM It occurs to me that for foreigners, the spelling of hymn is decidedly strange - Hymn is an international word - isn't it basically the same word in most languages with the "mn" cluster, although sometimes the "y" is replaced by an "i" |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: frogprince Date: 30 Nov 06 - 09:48 AM "TalkAboutHymns", or "SpeakingOfHymns". Or, as sort of a homage to the Mudcat, "DirtyHymnCafe" ? ; } |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: JennyO Date: 30 Nov 06 - 10:08 AM Hymntalk? Hymnology? Mad About Hymns? Hymnasium? |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: JennyO Date: 30 Nov 06 - 10:11 AM Hymnophilia or Hymnophiles? |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: Wilfried Schaum Date: 30 Nov 06 - 11:18 AM hymnofiles looks funnier and punnier |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: Mooh Date: 30 Nov 06 - 11:26 AM Hymn Street, Hymn Flight, Hymn Passage, Hymn Flock... Peace, Mooh. |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: Mooh Date: 30 Nov 06 - 11:27 AM Hymnryweb... |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: Mooh Date: 30 Nov 06 - 11:30 AM Sorry, meant Hymneryweb. Hymnodyweb? |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: Mooh Date: 30 Nov 06 - 11:32 AM I suppose hymnotomy is too easily confused with hymenotomy. |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: JennyO Date: 30 Nov 06 - 11:37 AM Hymnistics? |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 30 Nov 06 - 12:00 PM But "hymns" only really refers to a limited range of sacred music -doesn't include Gregorian Chant for example, or Christmas Carols, or canticles, or lots of other varieties which from your opening post you'd want to be open to. I mean, you wouldn't call Lord of the Dance a hymn - at least Sydney Carter never did. That's why you get collections with titles like "Songs of Praise "Worship Songs" Sacred Songs and Solos (Moody and Sankey that was, more than a hundred years ago). t namesThat doesn't help with coming up with a name - every name I've come up with so far, when I checked them, they are already used. Even "Amen" is the name of a battered men's support group in Ireland. Holy Music seems to be unused for anything of this sort so far. It's got the merit of being a pretty intuitive name, and very inclusive. |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 30 Nov 06 - 12:02 PM But "hymns" only really refers to a limited range of sacred music -doesn't include Gregorian Chant for example, or Christmas Carols, or canticles, or lots of other varieties which from your opening post you'd want to be open to. I mean, you wouldn't call Lord of the Dance a hymn - at least Sydney Carter never did. That's why you get collections with titles like "Songs of Praise", "Worship Songs", or "Sacred Songs and Solos" (Moody and Sankey that last, more than a hundred years ago). That doesn't help with coming up with a name - most names I've come up with so far, when I checked them, they are already used. Even "Amen" is the name of a battered men's support group in Ireland. Holy Music seems to be unused for anything of this sort so far. It's got the merit of being a pretty intuitive name, and very inclusive. |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: MMario Date: 30 Nov 06 - 12:17 PM The thing is, the name doesn't have to be intuitive - but hopefully catchy enough and unique enough for people to remember. On the web page for the forum the keywords can include hymns, canticles, carols, etc. which will target it for search engines. Songs of Ages? probably more appropriate to a historical music site |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: Nigel Parsons Date: 30 Nov 06 - 01:00 PM At the risk of quoting Max Boyce; HymnsAndArias |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: ClaireBear Date: 30 Nov 06 - 02:01 PM hymnopedia.com doesn't seem to be taken. |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: MMario Date: 30 Nov 06 - 02:24 PM Melpomène's Codex WhyCantus? |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: Haruo Date: 30 Nov 06 - 04:51 PM Languages that don't have "mn" clusters can always use epenthesis. The current (1972, I think) Hawai'ian-language UCC hymnal is titled Na Himeni haipule Hawai'i. MMario wrote The thing is, the name doesn't have to be intuitive - but hopefully catchy enough and unique enough for people to remember. On the web page for the forum the keywords can include hymns, canticles, carols, etc. which will target it for search engines.Good points; and the structure of the forum will be such (see ThinkingBaptists.com for an example) that once you're there there will be separate forums for various topics. I am hoping that there can be one more level of differentiation, too, so that there can be subforums, but I'm not sure yet. Haruo |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: JennyO Date: 30 Nov 06 - 08:57 PM What about Hymn-all, or Hymnall, or Hymns4all, or AboutHymns? |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: wysiwyg Date: 30 Nov 06 - 09:02 PM ForHymn ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: Wilfried Schaum Date: 04 Dec 06 - 04:56 AM ForHymn - good proposal but, alas, too many hits with google |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: Hrothgar Date: 04 Dec 06 - 05:47 AM Hymncat Cafe |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: frogprince Date: 04 Dec 06 - 01:41 PM "What'sSacredToYou?" |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: MMario Date: 04 Dec 06 - 01:51 PM Holy Tadpoles |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: Padre Date: 04 Dec 06 - 05:17 PM The word 'hymn' comes fromn the Greek word, Ûìíïò [and here follows a transliteration] 'humnos' meaning 'a religious ode' as for example, one of the Psalms. (See Strong's Exhaustive Concordance). Padre |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: pattyClink Date: 04 Dec 06 - 10:46 PM H.M.S. Worship and can a clone clean up the gross post above please? |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: Haruo Date: 05 Dec 06 - 04:04 AM Not sure what "gross post above" refers to. If you're talking about a gobbledygookish supposed source for the word "hymn", all you have to do is change your browser encoding to Greek (either ISO or Windows). Western encoding indeed makes it look gross, and Unicode at least on this computer just yields a box. Haruo who continues to thank all for the suggestions... |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: Mooh Date: 07 Jan 07 - 07:30 AM Haruo...Anything happening with this? Just wondering. Peace, Mooh. |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: maeve Date: 07 Jan 07 - 10:32 AM Also wondering and interested in this project. |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: Haruo Date: 09 Jan 07 - 03:58 PM I'm beginning to pull out from under the weight of the holidays and the weather (though more snow is forecast for tonight, and we Seattleites of the webbed feet don't do well in snow). It is time for me to pull all the suggestions together, consult with the guy who's giving me the webspace and programming, and make a decision. Fear not, it's coming. Haruo |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: maeve Date: 09 Jan 07 - 05:20 PM Yippee! I'm looking forward to the hymnody of your music site! maeve |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: Mooh Date: 09 Jan 07 - 05:23 PM Take your time, I was just curious...but it's a great idea! Peace, Mooh. |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: maeve Date: 22 Jun 07 - 06:30 AM Any new developments with your hymnody site idea, Haruo? maeve |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: Haruo Date: 22 Jun 07 - 01:59 PM Regrettably, no. The guy who's supposed to be setting it up for me is in grad school and when he has moments of coming up for air he says "let's get working on this" and then disappears again before I even see the message... In the meantime, I've been making some contributions to Hymnwiki.org, a Mormon outfit that is open to unSaintly if not unsaintly collaboration, and have been working on Esperanto versions of Wesley hymns (this being the 300th anniversary of Charles Wesley's birth). Hymnwiki.org uses the "anyone can edit this" approach (and software and appearance) of Wikipedia, which I find quite attractive. They also make a lot of use of LilyPond, which sounds good but so far I haven't got it to work on my antiquated computer. Haruo |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: Haruo Date: 22 Jun 07 - 05:59 PM I agree, "Masks should was perceived as opposed increases." Now could someone delete this post and the one preceding? thanks, Leland |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: EuGene Date: 23 Jun 07 - 05:54 PM Haruo: Meanwhile back at the old naming party, a nice a-muse-ing name might be "Polly's Hymnia"? No? Eu |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: EuGene Date: 24 Jun 07 - 12:17 AM Say what!??! |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: Haruo Date: 24 Jun 07 - 06:14 PM Yes, I should go ahead and award the prize even if it's not the name I end up going with, shouldn't I? Haruo |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: SharonA Date: 25 Jun 07 - 12:18 AM How about "Hymnatic" (as in fanatic about hymns) or "Hymnatics"? Or perhaps "Hymnocracy" or "Hymnocrats"? I tried searching on Google for each of these, and got no hits. I got only one hit for "Hymniverse" (as in omniverse), and that was at a site in the British Virgin Islands (Slash.McCarthy.vg) because the "word" was used in a paragraph full of encoded lingo in which everything at that site was written. No mistaking that for another forum about sacred music, so "Hymniverse" should be safe for you to use. |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: JennyO Date: 25 Jun 07 - 06:24 AM Hymniverse made me think of something else. When you are an omnivore, you eat everything. When you are a carnivore, you only eat meat- so if you are a hymnivore, does that mean you only eat hymns? (you can tell I've got nothing better to do, can't you) |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: oldhippie Date: 25 Jun 07 - 07:31 AM I'm sure Tom Lehrer would call it "VaticanRags". |
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Subject: RE: Help: Name That Forum (re: Hymns) From: Haruo Date: 24 Jul 07 - 05:11 PM Still haven't buckled down and made a decision about the name, but as a stopgap I did start a Hymn Blog, called "My Wish Hymnal", which I will post to as time permits. Feedback welcome, and if there's a particular hymn you want to discuss that isn't there yet, you can post a request to the thread called "WHAT ABOUT". So far there are only threads on four hymns: A poor, wayfaring man of grief A charge to keep I have A cheering chanting dizzy crowd A babe is born all of a may More will follow. Haruo
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